SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Auro]

This IS a meme cult game. Lynching infected people IS good for infected (as OG scum stay alive) and good for town (what Dave said, also on the flip side iff town PRs don't end up swinging the game towards town, >70% get infected and would win together anyway) and bad for scum (more days to achieve parity and can get caught by then).

So infected people are functionally Jesters, and that is playing to their win-con (as Mastina said) which should be fun

[TrueSoulEnergy]

So pretty much PK.

Meaning Hoctac and Arti are 2 of the originals.

[Almost50]

You self hammered. *slow clap*

so any final words?

Yes. I was Scum with RC & Mulch. We infected Maria on N1 & Not_Mafia on N3. We tried to infect SirCakez on N2 but it failed.

[Almost50]

@A50
Don’t hand the game to obvious scum or ill come over to your house and single handily slap you in the face.

"Social distancing"

OK..

UNVOTE:

Although I had only 3 votes on me anyway, so I wasn't anywhere close to being quickhammered by scum

[Auro]

This IS a meme cult game. Lynching infected people IS good for infected (as OG scum stay alive) and good for town (what Dave said, also on the flip side iff town PRs don't end up swinging the game towards town, >70% get infected and would win together anyway) and bad for scum (more days to achieve parity and can get caught by then).

So infected people are functionally Jesters, and that is playing to their win-con (as Mastina said) which should be fun

It's definitely not fun if infected people just CLAIM infected and we lynch them though!

[Almost50]

Alright. Let me try to be serious for a change (it won't last long)

VOTE: Hoctac

This will actually eliminate half of the theoretical teams I still have as valid possibilities, and I mean regardless of the flip, but I certainly do hope it flips red *for reasons*

[Hoctac]

I have a 10 in Modesty!

Quality

[Hoctac]

Happy Birthday, Almo!

[Hoctac]

Unless I'm early because of time zones.

[pisskop]

we arent lynching hoctac

[pisskop]

we arent wasting yet another day lynching somebody from mine own hood instead of actually fuckin scumhunting

[Flavor Leaf]

This IS a meme cult game. Lynching infected people IS good for infected (as OG scum stay alive) and good for town (what Dave said, also on the flip side iff town PRs don't end up swinging the game towards town, >70% get infected and would win together anyway) and bad for scum (more days to achieve parity and can get caught by then).

So infected people are functionally Jesters, and that is playing to their win-con (as Mastina said) which should be fun

It's definitely not fun if infected people just CLAIM infected and we lynch them though!

makes sense you'd be annoyed by that.

[Almost50]

Happy Birthday, Almo!

Thanks

Unless I'm early because of time zones.

No. It's 8 am in here already

[Auro]

makes sense you'd be annoyed by that.

Because I like fun? Yas
If you're insinuating I'm scum then I'd actually be happy that town's choosing NOT to lynch the claimed infected lol, I wouldn't be directing them back to it.

[Flavor Leaf]

who's the night 1 infection?

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah that's scummy.t

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont care about being scummy or not.

Who's the night 1 infection and why do we know?

[Auro]

Even if there is an infected->immune path (which is not publically proven to exist)

There is - otherwise, why even bother with "Mafia can kill an infected player every night"?

[davesaz]

Happy Birthday A50.

Fake L-1's and fake "omg you hammered"s don't work when the count is less than half the number needed.

[Auro]

Hey Dave, maybe you can answer this post game but I'm curious: What plays did I argue in Boon's game that were *completely* wrong? O.o

[davesaz]

Even if there is an infected->immune path (which is not publically proven to exist)

There is - otherwise, why even bother with "Mafia can kill an infected player every night"?

Even if there is, it's immaterial when thinking about whether lynching infected is useful -- because for an infected->immune path to be useful they have to be infected first, which could trigger the infected wincon faster than the town one. Not to mention if mafia have other roles that can block cure/immunity...

It's best to lynch scum over infected, and infected over town. Like I've said several times already. I will shoot down incorrect theory on sight, it's my nature to do so.

[davesaz]

Hey Dave, maybe you can answer this post game but I'm curious: What plays did I argue in Boon's game that were *completely* wrong? O.o

The comment was intended to convey the idea that you are skilled at making reasonable sounding arguments for mislynches, generally speaking. Wrong in terms of mislynches being wrong for town, not wrong in terms of theoretically unsound or anything like that.

[Auro]

I do agree scum>infected>town is the optimal lynch preference but reasoning differs, which is okay.
Infected win-cons can only trigger faster if there's exponential growth, which we haven't seen so far but might happen.
Mafia could indeed block cures, yes - but I'm assuming they used one of their two NKs on Mastina off her softing, whereas they could've used the theoretical roleblocker on her instead? Idk, there's also dayplay as a component and it's probably not useful to think too much along these lines anyway.

Hey Dave, maybe you can answer this post game but I'm curious: What plays did I argue in Boon's game that were *completely* wrong? O.o

The comment was intended to convey the idea that you are skilled at making reasonable sounding arguments for mislynches, generally speaking. Wrong in terms of mislynches being wrong for town, not wrong in terms of theoretically unsound or anything like that.

Ahh, that way. Okay.

[Auro]

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I finished a game recently where I was scum with Hoctac - where he was actually "solving" a lot more visibly than here, and worked himself up to a decently strong townread position until lategame where we got mechanically cornered.
He was also my scum Mason buddy in Boon's game, where he got himself visibly townread by play long before the Mason play anyway.

I do recall multiple instances of "flashes of solving" from Hoctac, and I think he definitely would be doing *more* to get townread as scum here. I think it is a case of his treating this as a meme game and just having fun while occasionally solving.

[davesaz]

I've thought Hoctac is scum from his first 10 posts. Perhaps a slight exaggeration, maybe 20. That read hasn't changed, and won't.
I don't really care that identical reads on Jake and 5G for identical reasons were wrong. Broken clocks are right twice a day...