micro 951 mystery box of silver gnine: well we're done here.

[Wooper]

hi guyssss I'm here to bring the moisture

VOTE: skitter30
statistically the more excited I am to play w u the more likely it is that one of us is scum so
you're outed
sorry


people should interact with the wizard's nicely formatted word vomit

[Wooper]

VOTE: fishy logic

[Wooper]

uh guys
Fishy Logic are scum
like actually scum

pedit: nahdia gets it

[Wooper]

why?

u curious or u disagree?
I'm cool elaboratin after this but this is imrpotat

[Wooper]

i found it funny.

anyway, continuous fluff posting without a trace of anything AI. good slot to pressure early on.

pedit: while it was Fishy that posted that intro, for most games i personally think of my opener before i even get my role PMs. so figure.

-D

hold on were on pg1 or start of pg2 or w/e and you don't have anything you want to push more than pressuring bugspray for bugsprayposting

have you like experienced bugspray before ever?
do you seriously have so few other thoughts that this feels important rn?

[Wooper]

VOTE: nahdia more or less serious vote

this is a really towny post imo

/o/

[Wooper]

I think nadhai/ksitter is a meta convo and it doesn't really interest me very much and I don't think either of u accidentally drops an interesting tell atp

Nahdia comes from site meta where ppl actually enjoyed playing scum and felt comfortable entering the game w an agenda/gameplan so like from what I've read yes hard openings were usually scum indicative

skitter I align more w your perspective subjectively but would say nahdia's opinion probs reflects site culture closer to your join date than current site culture, we all hate playin scum now

this is before my join date too i'm just a serial lurker don't @ me

nahdia, wooper's skitt post and vote (6) came after our """bad""" intro, and wooper held that vote for a good minute before switching back to us. if i were to argue 6 was also "prepared", what do you think?

-D

i'm sorry you.... thought I faked my vote on you becausw it came a minute later but then lol voted bugslray...

so you're ignoring active suspicion on my slot to bash up a null read who is posting badly....

do continue friends I am so curious to see how you're spinning this oje

[Wooper]

i associate 'posting meme rvs posts' with 'how much someone likes to post meme rvs posts' over alignment

objectively same btw I think that you/nahdia convo hits a very boring impasse very quickly w/o revealing ai stuff

[Wooper]

yes, while i was waiting for either of you/nahdia to come back and try to give meaning to your votes i decided to pressure the person on this playerlist i have historically had the most accuracy reading thank you for asking

-D

if you know bugspray I think you probably know they're unlikely to be blown away from shiptoasting by one (1) pressure vote lol

[Wooper]

wooper is that what you were thinking about fishy's entrance as well

wooper did you see this bit ^

i like 50 from dats

ya I did

i think the alignment indicative stuff is the fact that skitter got a scumread on me out of it.

do you feel like skitter approached your interpretation in bad faith?

[Wooper]

me too
I also don't think 50 is towny, it feels like backpedalling lmao

like there's an entirely valid convo to be had there & he's kinda sassing me at the expense of answering it but not in an anti-charismaric way, it's like he just wants to appear right or smth

[Wooper]

nahdia, wooper's skitt post and vote (6) came after our """bad""" intro, and wooper held that vote for a good minute before switching back to us.

if

i were to argue 6 was also "prepared", what do you think?

-D

i'm sorry you.... thought I faked my vote on you becausw it came a minute later but then lol voted bugslray...

so you're ignoring active suspicion on my slot to bash up a null read who is posting badly....

do continue friends I am so curious to see how you're spinning this oje

did you miss the "if" there? i wasn't arguing that, i wanted to see if nahdia would classify your post as "prepared". i wasn't feeling suspicion towards you because you changed a vote in a minute.

-D

how would you have replied if they'd been like 'aw shit yeah wooper is mega scummy'

[Wooper]

valid
skitter read?

[Wooper]

skitter what are your strongest gut first impressions this game off the top of your head

[Wooper]

y early town on skitter

[Wooper]

hardclaim neutral talk show host, I win by asking a whole lotta intrusive questions but avoidimg talking about myself please don't question this very legrimtiate serious claim

[Wooper]

skitter!! don't defend my interrogation suspect!!!! he's gonna break soon I can taste it

[Wooper]

i mean in general maybe but i'm not sure that applies to meme rvs posts
if anything i would associate 'let me go out of my way to make an rvs meme' with townie behavior than scum behavior

in my head i'm thinking "you're taking vague scumtells and applying them to rvs when they probably shouldn't be applied there"

i reload the page and see skitt's post saying exactly that

is it too early to start townreading skitter

-D

I can see reasons for town reading or scum reading splitter so far this game but I think this is explicitly not alignment indicative, it's like, exactly an expectation of how people approach the game holistically

she's likely equally capable of making this comment as either alignment and I don't think she'd fight me on this

do you have any other observations on skit aorn

[Wooper]

me too
I also don't think 50 is towny, it feels like backpedalling lmao

like there's an entirely valid convo to be had there & he's kinda sassing me at the expense of answering it but not in an anti-charismaric way, it's like he just wants to appear right or smth

it's soemthing that i think would be a bit hard for scum!dats to post

i'll circle back to this i promies

[Wooper]

skitter what are your strongest gut first impressions this game off the top of your head

- maybe dats town!
- maybe hari town!
- i hate like all of your takes and i think you might be scum!
- disagree with nahdia's rvs meme thing but maybe i just didn't have enough context to understand it!

also i feel like my takes are kinda in the open so what's the point of this question

oh youre back on me beinh vocal and unpopular early d1 being a scumtell.. sick

I was wondering if you picked up on votato vibin' scum!nahdia at the same time as you

[Wooper]

I hate that there's scum in nahdia/skitter
vote to move this game to a better timeline

[Wooper]

I can see reasons for town reading or scum reading splitter so far this game but I think this is explicitly not alignment indicative, it's like,

exactly an expectation of how people approach the game holistically

i don't know what this means

also idk i'm kinda vibin skitter right now but i don't think i have the willpower to try to put it into words

-D

I don't think you two both having that thought at the same time is a strong alignment indicative hivemind.

it's kinda like posting "rvs shouldn't be random" at the same time if that makes sense? ; like fmpov it's very clear that the conversation was about site meta / mafia discussion type stuff rather than like,.... sorting the game

incidentally
VOTE: bugspray @bugs can you hold this for me please

[Wooper]

second bit: i did pick up on that! i just forgot to write it. lowkey town indicative for thinking the same thing at the same time.

I found it kinda towny bc nahdia had like a Powerful Start and i'd freshly endorsed their take on fishy, and vo didn't really feel like he was voting for attention so much as voting someone he felt was scum,, like it felt more like a real thought

[Wooper]

I hate that there's scum in nahdia/skitter

incidentally
VOTE: bugspray @bugs can you hold this for me please

-D

- wooooper

[Wooper]

second bit: i did pick up on that! i just forgot to write it. lowkey town indicative for thinking the same thing at the same time.

I found it kinda towny bc nahdia had like a Powerful Start and i'd freshly endorsed their take on fishy, and vo didn't really feel like he was voting for attention so much as voting someone he felt was scum,, like it felt more like a real thought

my thought was real compared to what? you dont think skitters was real? do you disagree re nahdia?

skitter has a very broad range of thoughts she can fabricate as scum & aorn I do get the impression she is being flashy in the way she's engaging nahdia. not confident whether there's prompted because she's actually finding the engagement truly exhausting but I am kinda uncomfortable with the mafia theory disagreement => scumread conclusion and it kinda felt like a fairly loud conversation for what it was?

like I love people who play their reads up to sprinkle spice on the thread but I don't love it when it feels like people are inflating their reads to look good and I'm straightup unsure which one skit is so far



I read yours and I was like "hrn?" then I reread page 1 and I was more like "hrn!" and you didn't feel like you were playin it up just... dropping the thread and then doing your thing...

so tl;dr yes I felt like your nahdia vibe was more real than other nahdia reads itt but not in an exclusionary way I just feel less indecisive abt u

do I agree about nahdia?.....i don't know lol



pedit: good luck with the job interview!!

[Wooper]

dats you think you're good at reading bugspray?
from my limited experience with them i don't think they've done much ai

also i think that dats literally commenting on every single post on p1 cuz he was annoyed is p townie for him too

oh yes
I didn't think 50 was strikingly ai for him (I think faking irritation is within scumrange)
but the "here you go you stupid pokemon" vibe of that pg.1 analysis post was very towny lol

[Wooper]

VOTE: nahdia

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

what's irking you friand?

[Wooper]

wooper i follow very little of what you've been posting this game

what do you think of my wooper nahdia solve?

[Wooper]

no problems

I don't think early nahdia posting is particularly ai (fishy + md convo w you aren't super insightful) but I'm also nothing their only read trajectory so far has been on u, uncertain => scum => gladiate & the reasoning is... mm like I can buy it at a surface level but nahdia's tonality reads earnestly vexed by the way you approached the dialogue but their reasoning reads considered which feels overall faintly performative

no trajectory on other slots when I feel at least e.g. vo should be someone they have feelings about? i'm not necessarily convinced I agree with vo's argument that nahdia should be scum reading him for the same reason they're scum reading you but I just find there's something missing where I feel like an opinion should be

I suppose I kinda fished something similar re. vo from you and your response was kinda, unvonvincing but fluid, which is something I'd townread if I didn't have experience w u

[Wooper]

my page two solve was two of bugs/nahdia/votato and i have so far seen nothing that changed my mind

-D

I have zero meta with vo but I think they're a newbie?

if they're scum w nahdia he's made the decision to antagonise their partner in a kinda underwhelming and not very convincing but fairly believable way; that's a really peculiar mindset for someone who lacks a level of self awareness (which is like a newbie trait ime)

if he's town & nahdia is scum I believe it

vice versa but I also townread his thought process so lean away

I think vo/hdia is kinda unlikely

[Wooper]

my solve is pure, cold logic and facts

are tm2020 memes appreciated? probably not but im a rebel

This is pure mechanical game solve.

[Wooper]

wooper gamesolve machine go wprrrr

[Wooper]

dats did you have any exciting thoughts on my vo take?

oh hey I also think him being like "guys: nahdia/wooper." in response to me being the only person townreadin him is kinda anti charisma, unsure if that's really a super great town tell for vo because I have this feeling like he kinda just does what he feels? but he wasn't trying to appease me lmao

I don't think it's a particularly good solve either but at a surface level the way I've interacted with nahdia probably ~contains~ partner tells but is just overall too abstract to be partnery; so once again I kinda believe it's a real thought

(someone in this game is going to hate that take comin from me)

otherwise I don't really think I have much to talk about
hari faint warmvibes, this isn't an interesting take :u
skitter gives me

warm feelings

but that might

be shock from the knife

[Wooper]

have you circled back to 81 yet

yes; still don't think 50 is town indicative but ur long post is

it is strange to me that you think nahdia and skitter's conversation about whether or not it is scummy to prepare an opening post is not alignment indicative when nahdia chose fishy logic's post specifically when they could have applied the same logic to scumread other posts and chose not to.

in a vacuum I still don't think this is particularly shocking for either alignment on page 1 no - sorry if that's disappointing

why did you vote bugspray?

to unvote fishy while I processed my feelings

[Wooper]

taking a p2 stance and pushing something that i felt weird

still don't think this is a strong indicator of alignment for ppl w experience levels around myself or nahdia's, taking a stance gets things moving :/

olorin is town.

Hrrrnnggg???

im starting to feel like nahdia is bait and wooper is scum with bugspray (that scumread on bug is pure sheeping the D)

can u just like talk about how you're scum reading me for a minute bc I seem to float thru your solves but I'm not actually seeing anything from your brain

[Wooper]

olorin is town.

hm. why?

i dont see scum making that claim so early. its potentially verifiable and will lead to wayyyy too much scrutiny in subsequent days. unless scum has watering abilities and can prevent the IC trigger.

....... wait what

[Wooper]

actually don't elaborate that opinion is boring
We can sort orionlotion later I don't think the claim means much

I need to go move house today I'll b back & forth a bit

[Wooper]

i'm not sure why it being similar to his claim from last time would indicate that it's not town-indicative

i think it is not alignment indicative. hectic's claim was partially true in mystery box hate and it is possible that olorin' s claim is truthful here but that doesn't seem super likely to me.

i like you

[Wooper]

yeah it does. you think similar entry ergo hectic alt and similar claim ergo riding off of true claim last game to fake-claim this game? whats the point in fake-claiming like that in post 0? and why are you lurking?

i think the similarities make it less likely to be true here and that it isn't scum indicative for hectic to fake claim at the start of a game as he has done so in multiple games. sometimes i am busy and sometimes i do not see something i would like to comment on.

yes this
hari on point

[Wooper]

that was a ... very confusing way to try to say that

I feel like confusing thoughts which make sense are probably somewhat more likely to be real but it's still a bit mechanical for me to have a strong hair read

[Wooper]

i feel like if olorin doesn't walk back the claim it's probably townie because taht's a p ~bold~ claim to make as scum (i.e. specifically the potential to become ic bit)

I call to veto the ic discussion unless we decide to lunch orionlotion

[Wooper]

pretty much exactly what votato and skitter have said. likely comes from town. if he is scum, the dehydrated claim is likely still true, though perhaps not with the same outcomes. cant see scum fakeclaiming something reliant on another role like that.

i guess i don't understand why you (and others) are so willing to accept that the claim is truthful, but this probably isn't alignment indicative as i've had prior experience with hectic making a claim of this sort and it being generally met with acceptance. i have been viewing it very similarly to fishy logic's post (as a prepared opener) instead of as a real claim.

can we hang out... maybe grab a coffee or feed some dukcs...

[Wooper]

Stopped reading mod page 5 because fuck wooper posts they are too long and don't say shit

I think my posts are insightful and lucid

[Wooper]

In agreeance, assuming that the long post was the one where they went and responded to every page 1 post or something and was like "ope! people are voting me! whoa!" which just seems rather baldfaced for scum.

hahaha ya the passive aggression

[Wooper]

hm I don't think I've seen hellboo's towngame before but I think this is it

[Wooper]

Cool setup. Well run schadd

Grats Dunn & skitter, well deserved win