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For me, 2 deprives the magenta team of half their turns, and 3 essentially means skitter has the ability look at both hands and find the best move that suits the situation, whereas other teams can only hope that their partner has the necessary cards to complete/extend a sequence.
I feel 1 is the most fair here. It's a slight disadvantage, but not too great of one.- vincentw
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Playing a bingo! I play my whole hand (16, 113, 153, 281, 325, 353, 364) as "any side of all primitive Pythagorean triangles with its hypotenuse no larger than the largest number in the deck".
Primitive meaning that the triangle is as small as possible (no 6, 8, 10 because there's already a 3, 4, 5).
Altogether, there are 143 valid numbers, which cover less than half the deck.
Spoiler: all such triples (duplicates 「31」 in red, my hand in blue)- vincentw
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's over the 1% limit.
I've got the number of applicable cards for each two-digit combination:
0 and 1 169 1 and 2 224 2 and 4 177 3 and 7 163 5 and 7 122 0 and 2 169 1 and 3 200 2 and 5 177 3 and 8 163 5 and 8 122 0 and 3 145 1 and 4 177 2 and 6 174 3 and 9 163 5 and 9 122 0 and 4 122 1 and 5 177 2 and 7 169 4 and 5 130 6 and 7 121 0 and 5 122 1 and 6 174 2 and 8 169 4 and 6 127 6 and 8 121 0 and 6 119 1 and 7 169 2 and 9 169 4 and 7 122 6 and 9 121 0 and 7 114 1 and 8 169 3 and 4 153 4 and 8 122 7 and 8 114 0 and 8 114 1 and 9 169 3 and 5 153 4 and 9 122 7 and 9 114 0 and 9 114 2 and 3 200 3 and 6 156 5 and 6 127 8 and 9 114
I think to calculate each probability, it's (matching cards choose 7) / (366 choose 7).
For the overall, take one minus each probability, multiply them all, then finally take one minus that. I got 14.1%.
Bit of a lame brute force proof but it is one regardless. Lists and calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... d=72116676
Feel free to correct if it's wrong, though!- vincentw
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Glad to be of help!
Some arrangements of cards can satisfy more than one sequence. For example: [5, 72, 105, 127, 159, 287, 351] satisfies both (2 or 5) and (5 or 7). An extreme example is something like [40, 123, 132, 213, 231, 312, 321] which satisfies 6 such sequences at once. That would make adding all of them incorrect, I think.In post 714, Plotinus wrote:I noticed that summing row 371 didn't give the same answer as multiplying row 372 and I'm curious about why summing those isn't another way of arriving at the answer.- vincentw
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This late in the game, a bingo might not be the smartest move, but my hand can't complete any one sequence and I don't wanna risk playing one number and drawing a number that doesn't fit this sequence, so this will have to do.
Play my whole hand as "Day numbers that fall in the first 2 weeks of its respective month". A day number is such that 1 corresponds to 1st Jan, 2 to 2nd Jan and so on until 366 meaning 31st Dec. Because the deck reaches 366, it's only natural for the day number to include a leap day; however, my hand also works with day numbers for non-leap years, if it matters.
My hand translates to 2nd Jan, 10th Jan, 3rd Aug, 11th Sep, 5th Oct, 3rd Nov, and 5th Nov.
There are 168 qualifying numbers, which is less than half the deck. The only meta rule that I can think of is if I switch out "first" for "last", and it has 168 different numbers. Doing 2×(168 choose 7)/(366 choose 7) comes up to be around .8%.
(Shouldn't it be 6 because we have 6 players?)- vincentw
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Congrats Lilith and Skitter! Also thanks Stranger for putting us over 100 points haha. That 27/28 sequence was so close though, if anyone had that last card it would have won them the game (or tie in our case)!
If I have an input, it's probably to increase the value of a bingo, since it's usually set up over several turns and you could score a few sequences for the same amount of turns as trying to get that last card in your hand. If bingos are worth more, maybe there would be more of an incentive to do them aside of style points. (but that's just me)
About the deck, yeah a smaller one would be nice.
Having played it once, I really enjoyed it! It's really fun seeing the sequences all of us came up with. Thanks Plot for the game, and I don't mind joining again.- vincentw
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I think it's in the clear. It matches 57 out of the 139 unique numbers in the deck.In post 878, Sirius9121 wrote:at least 1/2 of the digits of n^2-1 are the same number and the repeating number is a number that is shown on the middle or right hand side of a keypad
anyone have objections?
Here's a table with all of them. From left to right: number (n), n²-1, the most common number, proportion of that number over all the digits.
Spoiler: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 24, 30, 33, 34, 35, 40, 43, 45, 47, 48, 50, 53, 56, 58, 60, 62, 65, 66, 67, 70, 74, 76, 80, 81, 83, 84, 85, 90, 91, 93, 94, 100, 165, 200, 256, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, 1000
If 0 is included in the keypad limitation, it matches 5 more numbers: 1, 49, 51, 71, and 99; still below half.- vincentw
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Apologies, between the whole discussion I didn't realise it's already my turn. I feel like I'm at least a little bit responsible for bringing up the bingo rule at the end of the last game. Seems like the balance has gone the other way. I'm not sure how to proceed, but the "what counts as a sequence" rule seems good probably.
The top-most sequence would work better like in Plot's post, yeah.
Don't have much of a good idea for my turn, I guess I'll just add 7 to my sequence.- vincentw
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From what I checked (up to 1000), I got 1, 2, 14, 35, 77, 98, and 686, and that last one isn't in the deck, so that's 6 numbers. Do you know more numbers that fit?
I'm not sure if sequences with less than 7 qualifying numbers are allowed; the closest the main post has regarding this is the following:
which doesn't explicitly forbid it I suppose (?), but even so it's a dead sequence either way.They can be as complicated or as simple as you like, though for complicated ones it is worth checking the deck to make sure there are at least 7 such numbers.- vincentw
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Playing a bingo! Play 5, 25, 27, 36, 64, 96, and 98 as numbers whose prime factorisations use single digit numbers only.
In order: 5, 5², 3³, 2² × 3², 2⁶, 2⁵ × 3, and 2 × 7².
There are 45 numbers up to 100 that satisfy this rule: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 24, 25, 27, 28, 30, 32, 35, 36, 40, 42, 45, 48, 49, 50, 54, 56, 60, 63, 64, 70, 72, 75, 80, 81, 84, 90, 96, 98, and 100. I think the proportion gets smaller as we include larger numbers.- vincentw
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Play 41, 51, and 89 asnow 1/3 off! prices revert tomorrow morning- vincentw
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If it's "all the numbers are comprised of only 4 distinct digits", e.g. [44, 42, 2, 51, 11, 25, 1]:Spoiler:
If it's something like "number ends in any of these 4 digits", then it always matches 40 numbers from 1-100.
(40 choose 7) / (100 choose 7) = 0.00116.
There are (10 choose 4) = 210 possible combinations, so it's 1 − (1 − 0.00116)210 = 21.7%.
Do tell me if anything's off!- vincentw
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Thank you for the offer, but it kind of feels wrong to have everyone gang up against Sirius.
I'll just take one of their sequences.
Complete the 9s sequence with 900 as well as 78 and 30 which add up to 108.
(If adding 3 numbers together is allowed then I can actually use all 7 in my hand. I can see how it's probably too permissive if interpreted that way though)- vincentw
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I was going to complete one of my sequences, but I noticed that my hand is a bingo! And it's so satisfying too. I feel like if I split my hand into chunks, I'll only score 2 sequences at most, so might as well cash out.
Play my whole hand as odd numbers.
I believe in you to finish the fight, EP!Last edited by vincentw on Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:10 am, edited 1 time in total.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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