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I would like to cite the case ofIn post 1114, Covid 19 wrote:In post 1106, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:@mod: HYPOTHETICALLY speaking, if an infected person were to claim they were infected for the purpose of hoping someone had a cure, Would it be considered throwing the game?Since you should strive to achieve your current win condition, this would likely count as not playing towards your win condition. (Getting cured does not advance the Infected win condition.)Especially the Lies v Covid 19, 1114
In this landmark case, the Supreme ruling authority has established the precedent that getting playing to get cured does not advance the Infected win condition therefore not playing to your win condition. Now through this we can extrapolate to this caseMaxwell and Flavor Leaf v OkaPoka, 8514. Seeing as you were infected Night 4, we can establish the idea that you indeed had the infected win condition thus curing yourself would not be playing to the infected win condition thus rendering you committing the ultimate sin of "throwing the game"
Now the natural rights established in the existence of MS.net and the use common sense clause establishes the idea that we can assume the moderator is not going to bait his players into violating their own game rules.
So Justice OkaPoka would like to submit the opinion
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anyways my role is wack, im not actually vt
i actually became survivor because i targetted someone who wasn't infected
so if scum could do me a favor and scumclaim with their infected buds that'd be great, i see that you guys aren't going to infect me anyways and this game is dreary so lets get this show on the road so i can siteflake- OkaPoka
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well its not really non infected ig, its if i target someone and they aren't cured as a result of it, i turn into a neutral survivorIn post 8622, Auro wrote:
What happens if you had targeted non infected? Who'd you target?In post 8621, OkaPoka wrote:im a mad scientist turned failed mad scientist
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wow you are so witty!In post 8648, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Wut? Do you like, have to ask your parents permission before you vote to make sure it's okay or what?In post 8647, OkaPoka wrote:intent to vote gobbles- OkaPoka
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also because alchemist was wondering in dead thread, my survivor claim weird shit was def me being really bored and mis-thinking that we were in lylo so i decided to survivor gambit as a last ditch effort to catch the scumteam since i thought the game was pretty much doomed if people were going to get exponentially infected ( i didn't even realize natural cures)
i thought you were acting increasingly scummy and i would've infected you so i thought you were scum but idk what you meant by me crumbing that you were infected lol- OkaPoka
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i just think this setup played itself rather than us playing the setup
sure we could've hypothetically figured out parts of the setup, but so many hidden mechanics and no roles to help piece together the puzzle makes it impossibly hard to not brush off even correct theories. maybe in a future where setups with many hidden mechanics like these are standard, this would be a good setup, but right now the setup had too many hidden layers for us to really be players with agency.
i think the truly bastard element of the setup was the subversion of expectation of what is optimal play. its a cult game, and the expectation of a cult game is to kill off the recruiters, piecing together infected can recruit is i guess reasonable-esque, but the expectation of balance and expectation of minimizing swing makes it hard to think about having exponential infection growth through the infected and natural recoveries. those mechanics are just so inherently swingy, that even if someone brought up that theory, it probably would've been ignored. after all, the core idea of mafia shouldn't be to stall and wait for the problem to disappear, but its about the active threat of an informed minority faction, forcing town to take action by virtue time is against them. there needed at least to be roles that had extra info about the setup i think.
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me sheeping pisskop was me acting under the assumption that infected knew about parts of the scumteam at least (full blind traitors felt wrong to me), so I thought he might have been revealing a scumbuddy so I could cure him ( i was gambitting myself as a curer if you remember- OkaPoka
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i think if you want to deviate heavily for standard norms of ms.net and have hidden mechanics that play a signifcant role, you gotta have some flavor roles at the very least that makes it more obvious that there are these mechanics
like idk, town researcher- if you target infected you learn something about the disease (in this case people can recover naturally) - OkaPoka
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