Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

[username]

hello internet friends

[username]

@DGB im gonna sheep you until i betray you

thats cool righr

[username]

oh wait 26 is a scumclaim.

With the quote, the context implies that you are scum-aligned.

Needless to say I TR you because no sane scum actually scumclaims in RVS

pedit: that's a triple negative, but being a bastard game pregame alignment changes are not out of the question, so alchemist is not 500% lying

what if they want you to think scum would never scumclaim in rvs

[username]

second, claiming the role seems to make it more difficult to win,

I think it’s easier for me to just ask for help rather than hope I can bait Night Actions my way. There’s a lot of positive Town utility to my role. I can confirm a claim by making them target me and seeing if I get a 1-shot copy of their ability, and at the cost of losing a Town action on one Night we can double up that action on another Night which would be extremely useful in PoE situations.

Damn Alch claimed 3p before I can get here.

Tell you what friend, I'll claim too to make it more interesting and see if I can test your metal.

I got a 1-shot vig, so I'll use it on you and you become a survivor with a gun. How's that sound?

murk me plz

[username]

I got a 1-shot vig, so I'll use it on you and you become a survivor with a gun. How's that sound?

Town/Scum/SK/Survivor/Moderator/Spectator crumb detected. Now tell me HOW am I going to be wrong this time.

I’ve finished catching up.
Going to place a vote down on one of the Pooky voters.

VOTE: Votato

how did you decide which one or was it more or less at random or

[username]

my role pm has all yours beat regardless. Still cant believe this was an actual thing that got approved by someone

mine is boring af but the mod is cool so it balances out



vecna's town

ill wait until im townreading dgb before i decide if im sheeping her

didn't like doc drew's shade about taking the game too seriously

ok thats enough internet for today my e-friends i'm gonna go back to doing whatever it is i do

[username]

my role pm has all yours beat regardless. Still cant believe this was an actual thing that got approved by someone

mine is boring af but the mod is cool so it balances out



vecna's town

ill wait until im townreading dgb before i decide if im sheeping her

didn't like doc drew's shade about taking the game too seriously

ok thats enough internet for today my e-friends i'm gonna go back to doing whatever it is i do

You said your sheeping DGB But your not town reading them but instead you Town read Vecna the one who I believe is voting them.
Why do you TR’ed Vecna?
Maybe it’s a specific post? Maybe a Gut Read?
Tell us why!

On page six, it's gut

On page three hundred it will still be like 75% gut

correctly getting DGB's alignment on Day 1 seems like an effort in futility, I mean that's not nearly enough time to consult spirits, read tea leaves or have fever dreams

I don't think townreading two people where one is voting the other is weird or even worth mentioning, and that's a strange place for you to go

And I'm not townreading DGB yet anyway because it's page six of day one

[username]

Never said it was “weird”
Just trying to figure out how you reached your conclusion there.
So if Vecna is A Gut Town Read and you still haven’t figured out your read on DGB, then I suppose when you said you would Sheep DGB that was a joke or a friendly gesture?

I was trying to get her to engage me so I could channel her ancestors and convince them to tell me her alignment and now you've ruined it all

My reads on Vecna and on DGB (lack thereof in the latter case) are independent of one another especially on day 1

[username]

well I managed exactly two low effort posts and ruined the schtick in about ten minutes


god help me I guess I'm just not that guy


This'll be fun though y'all for real

[username]

Pooky faking a post restriction; vote stays.

pretending like it wasnt announced hed only post in gifs in signup

jumping straight away that it has to be faked

gucci or bueno this is not

I couldn't remember who asked this but I found it


What makes you think she even read the signup thread and would have seen Pooky post that

She was one of the first to sign up; I just checked. Pooky stated the thing about the gifs at the very end of the thread

I dunno bout you but I don't hang out in the sign up thread after I /in

And in fact, I didn't even use the signup thread for this game; the mod invited me

So what makes you think she was pretending not to have seen it, when it's quite possible she hadn't? Hell, I myself hadn't seen it until just now.

[username]

So why do you have to be the guardian angel and make the case for said person?

Let them state this themselves if that is so. People attack people to get responses in this game, people sling mud. I dont think this should come as a surprise to you.

Regardless, even if the signup thread wasnt seen, why not take note that noone else thinks its strange? Why not ask about it? Just stating "omgerg its fake" takes like 3 jumps to get to a conclusion that I feel is mightily convenient and could very well just be made-up content to pretend to be scumhunting. It shows very little thought, so I poked at it.

Let me do my poking buddy. Im sure the person doesnt need u to play big brother.

as always I'm going to do whatever I want, whenever I want, but thanks for the advisement

I was asking YOU why you immediately made an assumption because I have a vested interest in comprehending your posts

[username]

I'm very annoyed with gifposting, how can one read someone's alignment from gifs? Plus, the gifs don't display automatically and I don't feel I should have to fetch them every time.

What is an iso going to look like?

Seriously cut it out

Its crap. Its a gimmick, and the number one thing I hate is gimmick accounts.

But more importantly, they havent done anything.

This was supposed to be one but it lasted like two posts so

[username]

username is correct

hey are you town

I'm just asking to make sure

[username]

username is correct

hey are you town

I'm just asking to make sure

I am town
I am the town
Make sure you never have to weep for me

And the ancient dance begins again

Then. Now. Forever.

[username]

Oh chilvalrous one
Guard me close
Like crown jewels
Deep in your heart

My life for serenity
Idle but not in spirit
Walk the enlightened path
And I shall guide us home

[username]

OK let's go get a room

strip club basement like the olden days

[username]

getting tested for covid tomorrow

hey me too but i get tested every tuesday, so i'm not as nervous


good luck though!

[username]

pine hasnt posted? i would just consider it an empty slot fn.

pine and not being active on day 1


name a more iconic duo

[username]

my name comes from like two weeks ago

[username]

|.o)
I'll just wait here...

What are you waiting for?

Questions I suppose.

What's your preferred alignment?

Can you describe your playstyle in five words or less?

What scummers have influenced your play the most.

Thinking back to your last losing scum game, what would you have done differently?

Have you ever voted a town read just because you were out of ideas, only to find that they were scum?

Have you ever, as part of a hydra, fake claimed masons with a random townie and then voted them because they didn't deny it?

[username]

That last one is oddly specific. Are you ok?

yah why

[username]

VOTE: Alchemist

I just really cannot shake the feeling that something is iffy about this slot. Having a free day1 lynch on a non-town faction with some scum equity?

Dissuade me if u can

I might come with on this one

Do you disbelieve the claim? Or believe the claim and doubt its alignment?

I can't make sense of that claim. It's too detailed to be a day 1 fake claim just pulled out of thin air, but it doesn't quite feel vegan kosher to me either. It makes my teeth itch.

[username]

oh fuck no

vote alchemist

I don't play nice with claimed third parties, least of all those that ask to be left alone to do their thing

[username]

Like, dude could be a third party vanillaizer or any number of things, not the least of which being outright scum

[username]

least of all those that ask to be left alone to do their thing

I’m asking people to target me with Night Actions.

This isn’t new information. Why are you just now reacting in this way?

maybe you missed the part like three posts ago where I said I had a hard time comprehending your claim


And "left alone" as in left alive to fulfill your supposed win condition

[username]

least of all those that ask to be left alone to do their thing

I’m asking people to target me with Night Actions.

This isn’t new information. Why are you just now reacting in this way?

maybe you missed the part like three posts ago where I said I had a hard time comprehending your claim


And "left alone" as in left alive to fulfill your supposed win condition

I can be gone as early as N3. I get targeted by 2 things on N1, use them on N’s 2&3 and that’s it.

You do realize that people lie in this game and you shouldn't be surprised if one thinks you're lying

[username]

|.o)
I'll just wait here...

What are you waiting for?

Questions I suppose.

What's your preferred alignment?

Can you describe your playstyle in five words or less?

What scummers have influenced your play the most.

Thinking back to your last losing scum game, what would you have done differently?

Have you ever voted a town read just because you were out of ideas, only to find that they were scum?

Have you ever, as part of a hydra, fake claimed masons with a random townie and then voted them because they didn't deny it?

Town with investigative powers.

Invisible and bad at reads.

I think 3P influenced me more, I can't remember any scum player.

Vote chen and ended them, so that scum would have lynched me.

I don't think so?

I've never hydra'd before.

Good stuff I can answer them too if you want

And I meant scummers as in which players on mafia's cum dot any tee influenced you the most

[username]

What surprises me is anyone thinking this ever comes from scum. What would be the motivation for scum here that makes claiming superior to not claiming anything?

Survival? The ability to coast without giving reads? Using a powerful ability to vanillaize the town before being caught? Causing town to waste investigatives if you're nothing more than an asthetic scum? Killing them if you're a scum PGO? There are literally endless possibilities here, dude.

By very definition there's a possibility of something you're not telling us about your role, or you wouldn't feel so comfortable claiming it. The level of something you aren't telling us can vary, a claim isn't a yes/no: it's a nuanced action where any part of it can be truth or a lie.

[username]

And again, I haven’t added any new info so you reacting this way now instead of back when I actually claimed is suspicious.

And again I barely paid any attention to your claim

But you're not town by your own claim, so what do you care if it's "suspicious"

I'm a VT anyway your suspicion means less to me then the finest of dust since I can't target you to begin with

[username]

god I've been burned so many times by towns that just wanted to figure out the third party later

[username]

username is town.

How very polite and serene of you my dear

[username]

If alchemist were confirmed third party I'd still be looking to eliminate/bury scum.

Especially considering alchemist is a 3p that benefits town more than scum.

How can you possibly know he isn't just lying scum?

How can you possibly know that he isn't 3P but completely different from what he's claimed?

[username]

Back from being nose fucked by a q-tip(wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be tbh).

did they do short stick or sinuses?


Short stick is so much better

[username]

That's the mid-turbinate test and it's still way more comfortable then the original sinuses test

We do the small swabs that hit the front inside of the nostril, which is good because when you're testing like two hundred people every week you want it as painless as possible

[username]

That's the mid-turbinate test and it's still way more comfortable then the original sinuses test

We do the small swabs that hit the front inside of the nostril, which is good because when you're testing like two hundred people every week you want it as painless as possible

Ahh....makes sense why I was freaking out about it but it wasn't bad at all.

Anyways, not to get too off topic........you scum bro??

god i fucking wish


you?

[username]

I really wanted 3p tbh, had a streak going of 3p in Baker modded games.

I'm undefeated as 3p so it woulda been nice for me too

[username]

There is a rule in mafia that can never be broken.

Third parties get the rope, top priority.

This. They're too squirrelly and can't be trusted not to be omitting something.

3Ps that claim on day one are even more suspicious

And yah I know like a bunch of people on this site are all "ohhhhh we should work together with thirds because they'll help us kill scum," but the old ways are best here. A 3P will burn you because their wincon is different from yours and they don't need to help you catch scum.

[username]

one of these days I'll get around to doing an MD post about lynching claimed 3P's just to get the discussion out there


I really think it's a generational gap with the veterans favoring roping them

[username]

lets pretend he is 3p.

We just lost a day lynching not-red scum.


Now if he is maf, his associations will damn him and lylo will be a major risk for him.


ergo, et sum

He's claiming to be a 3p that's also asking town to target him though.

I'd at least consider being down if he'd claimed like survivor but this is shady

[username]

but i mean, if we're gonna PL that, we should do it now.

Lynching someone who has claimed an anti-town role is bastardizing the use of the word "policy lynch" so deeply as to make it useless


That's like saying oh, what are you gonna do policy lynch people who the dead cop claimed a guilty on?" Yes. Yes I am.

[username]

how do you figure we "gain nothing" by removing an anti-town role?

We may gain less than we would some other way but we damn sure don't gain nothing lol


And as an aside at least now we have some meat and potatoes to discuss on day 1 instead of the Meta game circlejerk

[username]

hey Pine I know you hate day one and I do too but look we got some fresh content over here, hot and cheap

Come and play I want you to engage me a bit before you go back to lurkaderping the first day away

[username]

So voting the claimed 3p is a waste

But voting the claimed vanilla townie isn't


never change pisskop

[username]

And lmao at the idea that I'm "pushing" anything, I'm having a discussion

Don't be disingenuous

[username]

hey pisskop


Riddle me this: what's the scum motivation for wanting a claimed third party dead

Like I seriously wanna know where that goes in your head

[username]

Dude


This IS progressing the game. His claim is part of the game.

And you must be drunk if you think "kill the claimed third party" is a safer "soapbox" than "let him live"

[username]

And I'm not even saying oh let's quicklynch him or oh he absolutely has to fuckin die right now


Day one is some boring ass shit, and at least the claim gives me a jumping off point


And it's not like I'm dead fuckin set on lynching him today, my preference is I don't let third parties live. If a better or scummier option comes up then we rope that instead

But if you're gonna scum read someone just because they don't trust a third party claim, then pal have I got some real bad news for you

[username]

Dude


This IS progressing the game. His claim is part of the game.

And you must be drunk if you think "kill the claimed third party" is a safer "soapbox" than "let him live"

More like “let him live for Day 1”
That’s the smarter move.
We would be wasting a lynch.
Yes he could end up siding with scum but if you actually did a hard read and focused. You can lynch scum Day 1 instead of a 3P Claim.

I'd be perfectly happy to lynch scum on day one instead of a third party.

The thing is, it's only day one and no one has claimed scum, probably because that would be stupid.

So right now, this is where the discussion is. And it's disingenuous as hell for pisskop to pretend that it's a distraction from the game. It's not etched in Fucking stone. It's day one discussion of a claim in the game.

[username]

I personally just think it’s pointless.
While I admit it’s not a total loss, imagine being a Survivor and Claiming Day 1 only to get lynched.
It’d suck ass.
And if you Fake Claim and you later say your a Survivor you’ll be lynched.
So unless your applying that Survivor be only scum Aligned, Alchemist logically shouldn’t be the lynch today.
If you believe that Survivor should always be scum Aligned then make a petition about it.

My concern is more toward 3p vanillaizer or even scum PGO.

So fucking sue me dude I get paranoid about people who ask to be left alive till later. If that's somehow scummy then boy howdy

[username]

If it was just a survivor claim I'd be less skittish but it's like "Heyyyyyy everyone target me and I'll wiiiiiiiin"

[username]

also why user over DGB?

its a vote. votes serve several purposes

well according to you, my vote is only for powerlynching a claimed third party so

[username]

also why user over DGB?

its a vote. votes serve several purposes

well according to you, my vote is only for powerlynching a claimed third party so

jesus, and you call me disingenuous.

You should know that if you're scum, you're going 0-2 against me after this game.

[username]

I've always had love for Pooky tbh and yet I've somehow managed to never play with him as far as I can recall

[username]

hey, were having a fight, you cant agree with me!

this essence doesn't have fights, the vessel must remain untarnished

[username]

Okay I'm really liking Iec for town right now

[username]

buddying (strong association with DGB).

hey pal hands off the Simpsons gifs, that's my bit

[username]

If everyone interacts with each other then once a scum flips you can dive into their ISO to help get a better solve as to whom their partners are.

unless a main point of their scum game is to make their own ISO an unreadable mess with so many associative tells and false leads that you'd rather pull your eyes out than keep looking for them

I don't know many people that go through that much trouble though

[username]

I hate to be

that guy

, but 'the point' is a single location, and not a marqueed text box.

if it's flying over his head then isn't the point missing him?

shouldn't he be flying past the point in a fixed location like you say?

[username]

I don't know what's sadder, the fact that it happened at all or the fact I wasn't surprised.

[username]

He's a site admin that had to handle an investigation of sexual harassment against votato

Cut my boy some slack yeesh

[username]

NS is human garbage and prison is too good for that son of a bitch

[username]

My posts got real sporadic for a long time after that

[username]

man A50's iso is fluffy even by my standards


And I have a real real high tolerance for fluff

[username]

Tbh DGB doesn't seem particularly town to me, but I signed up for this game because I recognized ABR and DGB, and ABR skipped out. So I get a guilty feeling when I think about how I think she's not town, which leads me to think less about voting her. I mention this because I don't understand Pooky townreading her -- whether it's based on DGB being fun and wanting to play with DGB, or whether it's based on DGB's likely alignment.

I've never played with A50. They perked up after I interacted with them. I still like their elimination. Open to relevant meta (e.g., whatever TL alludes to, would like to hear something more specific from him).

it's ok bb I'm still here


I can read DGB perfectly and by day 2 just sheep me on her and you'll be fine

[username]

Denied

[username]

man just wait till I decide if i'm hard townreading DGB then the shit'll really hit the fan


I'm actually leaning DGB town but I'm not willing to put my perfect record on the line yet

[username]

Maybe Pook can read DGB?

impossible, nobody reads DGB better than me and even I can't read her on day 1 most times


I think it's safe to say I believe Pooky to be informed re: DGBtown

[username]

Dude.
They admitted they are informed of DGB.
The “Bolded” feels weird to me.
It’s like you don’t want to scum read them so you say “oh maybe they are Town I can’t read them don’t mind me”.

I'm not entirely willing to let go that it may be a town gambit. They've also "admitted" that the gif thing isn't a post restriction (though piss says this was covered so /shrug) so excuse me if I take what the slot is saying with a grain of salt. Idk what else I could say here.

They didn't have to "admit" anything about the gif posting dude. They announced in the signups before role PMs that they'd be doing that.

[username]

what's wrong with refusing to let a strong associative slide?

It's not a strong associative at this point though, it's an outright claim unless I've missed my guess

[username]

Oh for gods sake just do a read list nobody's gonna quickhammer you dude

[username]

Like, I like that even less than if you just did one


"Ohhhh what if I get quickhammered for sharing my reads" like, you should be sharing reads anyway, no matter how many or how few you have

And if anyone says AHAHA LOOK AT THEM SHITTY READS and quickhammers you, we punish them by sending them to join you in hell

[username]

They didn't have to "admit" anything about the gif posting dude. They announced in the signups before role PMs that they'd be doing that.

Bold of you to assume I read a signup thread.

I didn't assume any such thing, I was explicitly informing you of something that's been pointed out several times during a time period that you aren't reading


Like I get not wanting to read from before replacing in, cause I don't do it either. And I didn't join via the signup thread I was invited by FG.

So the point of my post is to inform you that you're retreading ground the rest of us have been over.

[username]

Wait how many votes are they at? I've only seen three.

No clue but I'm trying not to scare them away and to get them to share some reads instead of worrying about magic quick lynches

[username]

username - I'm not sure what impression I get from the ISO. At least it's content-rich.

great, i'm "content rich"

further proof that my attempt to make a low-effort alt has absolutely failed

[username]

I go back and forth with Drew in my head between wanting the slot dead and thinking it looks okay

I can't read Vecna for shit and I always think it looks at least a little scummy, maybe it's a playstyle clash. I think Vecna's been mostly okay tho tbh

can you elaborate why you don't like Vecna? And please don't use "abrasive" or "aggressive" as scumtells, because I'm absolutely the last person on this site that you'll ever convince of the idea that hostility or abrasion is scummy

[username]

696 doesn't even look abrasive to me, and I read emotion better than almost anyone on the site

it just more looks annoyed

[username]

And I consider abrasiveness negative charisma.

but that isn't alignment indicative, or I'd be scum in every single game ever

you might want to rethink that position going forward, it's holding you back from being the best mafia player you can be

[username]

There are other types of charisma besides friendly likeability

There's that, but there's also a strong leadership charisma. A menacing intimidation charisma. A quiet endearing charisma.

Charisma is anything that draws people to you and rallies them behind you, whether you use your charisma to invoke pity, fear, or friendship.

And there are players that lack any such charisma. These meek wallflowers are followers, they look for a leader to bond themselves to. And there's nothing wrong with that-- both leader and follower have their place, as well as their drawbacks. These are the players who find themselves upset in post game because they figured out the entire scumteam and nobody helped them lynch it.

And sometimes you have your natural personality clashes. Not everyone responds to the same type of charisma the same way. As someone who spread more than his share (and most peoples share) of hostility in games, not everyone responds by getting behind you. This goes whatever form your personal charisma takes. Sometimes, people simply don't respond.

[username]

yeah I'm still not a high elo mafia player yet, I still don't have a calibrated list of scumtells

I've been playing this game for thirteen years and I can count on one hand the number of things I'd consider solid scumtells. You learn to read people's intent rather than look for tells because A- scum can manipulate what you consider strong tells, B- Eventually your tell will fail you because you placed too much stock into a personality tick, and C- learning to judge personalities rather than checking off a list of tells is a far more sustainable play style

[username]

You sir, clearly haven’t been reading the thread.

Like you apparently are, I am absolutely shocked that the player who said he wasn't going to read the thread didn't read the thread

[username]

Like there's no way we're getting rolled by a good old hones third party.

Remember that time in Gay Mafia when we were scum and Nobody Special was a 3rd Party AIDS giver and we let him live and it turned out that he was a delayed vanillaizer who removed the powers of anyone he visited or who visited anyone with AIDS and he was able to leave the game when everyone was infected with AIDS?

Also, remember that time in Gay Mafia II when twilight hit and I thought you were scum, but it turned out that you were just a serial killer so you NK'd me N1 and then you won a Scummy for Best Third Party?

[username]

i mean, if you guys wanna go round and round for all of eternity about 3rd party viability, you should probably realize that third parties being anti-town by definition is a really old-school way of thinking


and that's if they're third party instead of lying scum

[username]

you should probably realize that third parties being anti-town by definition is a really old-school way of thinkin

Is it?

It's sounding to me as if everyone is concerned with satisfying the 3p's wincon, how far has the pendulum swung?

I dunno, back in the day I don't remember 3rd parties openly claiming with everyone assuming they'd townside


People shouldn't trust them because they don't share towns wincon and nothing stops them from siding with whoever gets them the win

[username]

I'm still just a Vanilly Hillbilly

[username]

you'd know I had already claimed if you read the rest of the game

Like I don't blame you for not doing it

But I feel like we keep having to catch you up and that's not ideal

I feel like next you'll be asking me whose alt I am despite me making no effort to hide it and literally referencing two very specific games I was in

[username]

Literally claimed it way earlier and no one batted an eyelash or complained but by all means tell me how to play mafia

[username]

Besides I've claimed VT enough on day one to know that scum expects me to do that whether I'm a VT or a PR flying under the radar

[username]

Besides I've claimed VT enough on day one to know that scum expects me to do that whether I'm a VT or a PR flying under the radar

[username]

Hell I've claimed doc on day one


That's a lot less ideal and usually just the result of me being all pissed off and blurting it out tho

[username]

Being night killed is a badge of honor

[username]

nah I like getting NK'd early so that way I don't have to play mafia

[username]

I believe the VT claim on D1, just disappointed username didn't fakeclaim mason with me.

If we're ever scum together again, we can try that and see if it works better the second time

[username]

That's an awful roundabout way of saying "I'd rather Mislynch town than lynch someone who doesn't have a town wincon and might be completely lying about their mechanics and actual wincon."

[username]

People shouldn't trust them because they don't share towns wincon and nothing stops them from siding with whoever gets them the win

100% of my experience leaving 3ps alive was being screwed sideways. I have never seen it work.

They are not scum hunting and they vote. grrrrrr

In AtmosFEAR I was third party and I literally spent the entire game doing jack shit and lying about my wincon. I didn't have to help the town, I only had to ensure that neither me or four certain other players ended up with The Black Key. So I made sure that all four of them and myself got lynched.

I don't remember who won except that I did.

[username]

I've played in more than my share of theme games-- in fact I haven't played a normal since like 2009 I think-- to know that just because a 3p says "this is how my role works" doesn't mean it in fact is.

What if he's a vanillaizer? What if any ability that targets him fails and makes the person vanilla?

What if he's something else that hasn't been thought of? A reflexive ability thief, ie the Vig shoots him and he absorbs it and gains a big shot without dying?

What if targeting him makes you join his cult? Do you not remember that this game may have bastard elements?

Whether you're town or scum, he does NOT SHARE your wincon and cannot he trusted to be telling the truth about his role.

[username]

I mean again I've made literally no effort to hide who I am

I addressed DGB referencing games we modded together, as well as mentioning that I can read her perfectly

I repeatedly referenced games by name where I've been town or scum

I've mentioned both here and on my main that I get covid tested every week

I told Pooky he was stealing my gimmick when he posted a Simpsons gif

No amount of being an alt can stop me from starting sentences with "Like," because that's just how I talk

I pointed out that I of all people don't consider aggression to be scummy

[username]

Like I'm very clearly an alt of Cromulent Simpsons Quote

[username]

All this time I feel like Username is the true 3p and is mad at Alch for claiming it before him because he didn't want to open claim his status so now he's salty.

If I were third party I'd sure as hell not want the slot murked just because having it around would keep the heat off me

[username]

I miss Pine

@Pine ARISE HORSEMAN OF FAMINE

[username]

Besides I've claimed VT enough on day one to know that scum expects me to do that whether I'm a VT or a PR flying under the radar

Hey, EJ.. here's another member of the club of "Don't believe anything they claim"

I said I don't believe third parties


There's a significant difference between claiming 3p with some elaborate wincon and claiming a role in a closed that is dead as shit if a tracker or watcher ever sees it visiting

[username]

Literally claimed it way earlier and no one batted an eyelash or complained but by all means tell me how to play mafia

Who is this aimed at?

Because my statement was claim-wide and you're acting like I hyper focused on you which couldn't be further from the case.

Also I've never been one to treat people like newbies when they aren't, and I very much didn't insinuate you didn't know how to play, so this outburst is strange to me.

It was directed toward TL... the guy that made the post directly before mine where he told me claiming VT is bad for towns

[username]

I was scum in that game...

It was a weird game

Legit one of the most fun games I ever played


Even when I got locked in a PT with maria for like a month or whatever it was

[username]

No need for condescension, bud.

I'm sorry I just don't like answering questions that I had assumed were self evident

[username]

I blazed the path that Fate walked, not the other way round dude


He was better at mafia than me though, and I've never said otherwise

[username]

Better to be a humble wasp's nest then a spicy curmudgeon.

Good on you.

The wasps slumber in the old entity.

This entity does not allow fury within this vessel.

This entity exudes peace, love, empathy.

This vessel remains Tranquilo.

[username]

What if he's a vanillaizer? What if any ability that targets him fails and makes the person vanilla?

Are mwe going to repeat ourselves for the resat of the day?? ELSA CLAIMS a ONE-SHOT VIG. Whether or not he targets Alch he IS effectively "vanillaized" after using his shot. If you think I was saying I would rather mistermoinate.. etc then I can say I think you're saying you'd rather EJ misvigs a townie than try it on the claimed 3P.

Or what if, and hear me out, the vig doesn't out themselves and didn't hip fire and thus avoids misvigging a townie

[username]

What if he's a vanillaizer? What if any ability that targets him fails and makes the person vanilla?

Are mwe going to repeat ourselves for the resat of the day?? ELSA CLAIMS a ONE-SHOT VIG. Whether or not he targets Alch he IS effectively "vanillaized" after using his shot. If you think I was saying I would rather mistermoinate.. etc then I can say I think you're saying you'd rather EJ misvigs a townie than try it on the claimed 3P.

Or what if, and hear me out, the vig doesn't out themselves and didn't hip fire and thus avoids misvigging a townie

And yes before anyone bothers, I understand that we are well past this point

[username]

DGB while I've got you here


Let's get together and plan Uncouth Mafia 3

[username]

Or uncouth 2 which I guess would make it Polite Mafia 3

[username]

I feel like y'all are misunderstanding here

My vote is on alchemist already, and I do believe it's the best place for an execution

If you guys don't wanna agree with me, fine, it's whatever, and it's an issue for mafia discussion

However, you're not going to convince me right here and right now that it isn't the best course of action. I'm willing to allow Elsa to take a shot tonight at Alchemist, but I don't feel that is ideal.

We can keep arguing for page after page over some shit that should be in MD, but I'm only one vote out of whatever is the majority.

By all means feel free to case someone else as scum for me to look at.

[username]

Nah, Elsa's right about one thing, 3Ps by definition have no allies and so have less associative tells. You can judge based on how others respond to them, but tbh a claimed 3p knows they don't have to help the town

[username]

DGB while I've got you here

Let's get together and plan Uncouth Mafia 3

QAnon mafia LOL

ohhhhh holy shit lets start on this right now because I'd be so down to write the flavor for that

[username]

f we eliminate Alchemist and Alchemist turns out to not be lying, we won't have any info and we'll likely be down a townie.

If we ended up down a townie, then alchemist was lying because alchemist has not claimed to be town.

[username]

Why not a PGO?? I mean, THAT would be the first idea to hit my mind when I see someone asking to be targeted.

Yes, that too. He could be PGO.

Or aesthetic reflexive cult recruiter

He could literally be any number of things and I find it bizarre that people are taking his claim at face value

[username]

Note to self: mod a game called "There is Absolutely a Cult In This Game"

[username]

Note to self: mod a game called "There is Absolutely a Cult In This Game"

QAnon

Shit it's so perfect


Okay we'll work this out in the Serene PT

[username]

Literally claimed it way earlier and no one batted an eyelash or complained but by all means tell me how to play mafia

To be honest I am actually reading and I don't know what your role is at this point in my read for some reason.

Vanilly Hillbilly


Vanilly with a Y

[username]

@a50
If PK is scum, then I think Username or Gobble is their partner.
Now let’s wait and see how they respond to my concern.

nah, i'm a vanilly hillbilly


vanilly with a Y

hillbilly with a Y

[username]

So we gonna make it not boring, or are we just gonna bitch about it?

Because saying a game is boring but not doing anything productive to change that stagnant feeling of the game is being an asshole to the playerlist and spatting at the moderator who I'm certain gave a hard, solid 24 hours on this setup at least.

Here I know a way to make the game more exciting. I now open the floor for pointless mudslinging and baseless accusations


Lavender's ancestors came to me in a dream and told me the slot is scum

[username]

vote: Lavender

[username]

Who is on my wagon besides DGB and username? A part of me wants to say DGB could be scum pushing me as an excuse to not form other reads but I’ve seen her as Town get hung up on something she shouldn’t have before so it’s probably NAI.

You're also missing the part where Pooky has literally said he knows her to be town


Also I've never misread DGB in thirteen years on this site and I'm townreading her so

[username]

I've voted for you since the last VC.

If you think Logicalicaltist is scum, why not vote for him?

DGB was bothered by the idea of a 3p voting.

in other words since you're not town, you have no reason to try and help town scumhunt


Thank you, very sincerely, for making my point for me

[username]

I mean, this is really unfair. You TR says she's worried about a 3P voting, so said 3P complies and revokes his vote. Now you accuse him of not wanting to scum hunt because he isn't voting? It looks like the definition of "damned if you do damned if you don't" to me.

My townread not liking the slot voting has nothing to do with it. The slot is free to vote however it pleases. In fact, I myself am voting a slot based on a dream I had. The slot instead chooses to use DGB's request as an excuse not to help the town scum hunt.

You guys keep saying that a 3p can be useful if it's helping the town, but what good is he doing the town if he won't vote just because it "looks bad" to one player?

[username]

"Ohhhhh but 3rd parties can help the town just give the guy a chance to help the town why do you wanna execute him if he can help the town, wait a minute you mean you expect him to help the town well that's just UNFAIR KURIBO"

[username]

Alchemist, this is your STORM WARNING

you have twelve hours from the time of my post to give us a reads list or it'll be assumed that you intend to be dead weight. You wanna prove you intend to help us? Get to it.

[username]

Alchemist, this is your STORM WARNING

you have twelve hours from the time of my post to give us a reads list or it'll be assumed that you intend to be dead weight. You wanna prove you intend to help us? Get to it.

So you are Kuribo?

No dude I already said I'm an alt of Cromulent Simpsons Quote and also I'm one of the heads of the Serene hydra as evidenced by me asking DGB to meet me there to discuss a game we want to mod.

There is no room in this vessel for anger, Doctor. There may once have been an entity known as Kuribo associated with this vessel, but it shall remain pure and untouched by the raw hatred of the old entities.

[username]

I got a pre prod message but looks like I’m here 8)
Can’t catch me you rednecks

drew who dies

It's turkey time everyone

We're letting this float why?

I can't really argue that point with you.

VOTE: Turkey

So your scum read is the person who has barely posted?

Probably scum reading Pine as well.

[username]

But, Turkey has been very lurky the past week or so. Just a little short of a complete site flake, so I can't use his absence as a scum tell.

[username]

Drew you say you can't argue with that about turkey


But you have literally argued with that about turkey in the last five pages

[username]

Btw

"What information do we gain lynching a claimed third party?"


A lot more than we gain lynching a lurker


Oh but that 3rd party will totally help the town right


Any day now



Aaaaaaaaany day

[username]

TL I'm starting to think Drew is scum here

I don't like the cognitive dissonance between not wanting to vote turkey and deciding to vote turkey

What do you think?

[username]

This is actually a fair point, but not one I'm willing to allow gobb to continue floating doing absolutely fucking nothing, which is what you're posturing you want from the 3p, so... where's the disconnect there exactly?

What's the difference?

It's not posturing so you can check that one right at the door. I'm asking the 3p to prove its value that it claims it has. As well as to prove the value that a number of other players have claimed it has.

I'm also not suggesting that the turkey be allowed to live or suggesting that it has been useful at all. I also don't think Pine has been useful at all; and I say that as someone who considers the guy to be a friend. And who teamed with him in Team Mafia.

I'm pointing out a criticism of Drew and his approach to that slot. A point that you agree with apparently.

There's no disconnect there.

[username]

Not gonna lie, I actually like alchemist's read list and I noticed that about lavender too

Is lavender an alt? Could the slot be scum intimidated by what it thinks is an aggressive and experienced town?

[username]

I'm not super crazy about alchemist's scum read on logical but I do feel like it's coming from a genuine place

[username]

It's not posturing so you can check that one right at the door. I'm asking the 3p to prove its value that it claims it has. As well as to prove the value that a number of other players have claimed it has.

You're asking the 3p to be useful.

I'm asking gobbledygook to be useful.

You're calling for a lynch on a self-resolving slot.

I'm not.

I'm also not suggesting that the turkey be allowed to live or suggesting that it has been useful at all. I also don't think Pine has been useful at all; and I say that as someone who considers the guy to be a friend. And who teamed with him in Team Mafia.

I'm pointing out a criticism of Drew and his approach to that slot. A point that you agree with apparently.

There's no disconnect there.

Advocating that the 3p is lynched over people that aren't even remotely fucking participating, by proxy, is allowing them to continue to float.

Flush the fucking toilet.

You can't know that the slot is self fucking resolving dude. You simply can't. It CLAIMS to be self-resolving.

And in case you haven't noticed, I'm not exactly pushing the 3p right now anyway over anyone. My vote is on the equally useless Lavender, and I'm willing to move to gobbledegook or even Pine.

I've made this very clear, maybe get your head outta the fucking toilet.

[username]

like, chkflip, you're awful salty toward me about positions I'm not even espousing

[username]

As for me “ignoring gamestate”, it’s because I don’t really see the point of butting into a debate about lynching a 3p or not.

Afraid of rocking the boat?

We have other things to discuss, have you no thoughts about that?

[username]

chkflip, I've literally given you two scum-reads of varying seriousness (Lavender / Doctor Drew) and two lurkers that are useless, (Pine, turkey) but because I asked Alchemist to provide some reads (which he did, hey look he helped the town yaaaaaay thanks kuribo) but you seem to have it stuck in your craw that i'm "pushing the 3p over scum reads"

[username]

As for me “ignoring gamestate”, it’s because I don’t really see the point of butting into a debate about lynching a 3p or not.

Afraid of rocking the boat?

We have other things to discuss, have you no thoughts about that?

I’m not sure to be honest.

What other things to discuss?
The most I’ve skimmed through just talked about 3p.

you could share with us who you think is scum?

perhaps who you think is town?

you could contribute in some way, jump into the fray with both feet and get your hands dirty

[username]

You can't know that the slot is self fucking resolving dude. You simply can't. It CLAIMS to be self-resolving.

And in case you haven't noticed, I'm not exactly pushing the 3p right now anyway over anyone. My vote is on the equally useless Lavender, and I'm willing to move to gobbledegook or even Pine.

I've made this very clear, maybe get your head outta the fucking toilet.

Actually, I can. He claimed himself into a corner. He needs to absorb two roles and use them on two seperate nights to leave the game a winner.

That's the definition of self-resolving.

And just because you've finally stopped voting and yelling for us to yeet the 3p into the sun doesn't mean we have to ignore the fact that you've spent most of the phase berating town for not voting out the 3p.

That's not how that works.

like, chkflip, you're awful salty toward me about positions I'm not even espousing

See above. Just because you're not "espousing" it now doesn't mean you haven't been for forever. The only one with hurt cheeks over this discussion is you, bud.

Sorry.

chkflip, I've literally given you two scum-reads of varying seriousness (Lavender / Doctor Drew) and two lurkers that are useless, (Pine, turkey) but because I asked Alchemist to provide some reads (which he did, hey look he helped the town yaaaaaay thanks kuribo) but you seem to have it stuck in your craw that i'm "pushing the 3p over scum reads"

Neat!

Lavender is a vanity wagon at this point in time. Your point?

Like

I'm not even pressuring you right now and you're freeeeaking the fuck out.

It'd be kind of funny if it wasn't so sad.

You call this freaking out? Dude. Come on. I'm calling you out for a disingenuous argument. You're complaining that people won't get off the third party and then you complain when they get off the third party.

You call Lavender a vanity wagon, but hey look, I got the slot to interact with people, so lemme just fire up the ol narcissistic mirror on that.

You say it's self resolving because he "needs to absorb two abilities to leave the game a winner," and my point is that's what he SAYS is his deal and that there are far more damaging things that could be going on. Your opinion of the guy being self resolving is that you're taking the claim at face value which isn't a given.

[username]

Scum vs scum theater? it has that odd odour

Nah my scum theater is a lot more boisterous

And I stopped doing that anyway because I'd get legit pissed off at my own buddies. Just not worth it anymore.

[username]

I'm not sure we've had the pleasure. I like to make mountains out of molehill sometimes when I'm having a hard time sussing out a slot.

Yah, for some reason I thought we had played together before, but if we have, I couldn't find it. Though I know I've seen you around on the discussion forums. The reason I created this alt is because on my main, I have a habit of being extremely hostile and toxic, dragging the game into page after page of unhinged screaming. So to my mind, there's a really really high bar on what quantifies freaking out by me.

It's D1 so, honestly, I'm willing to give it the benefit out of the doubt today. Given what comes out of his mouth moving forward will obviously change that. Trust and believe everything that comes from the slot will be scrutinized, especially if they come out of the side of their face with what they got targetted with or cry roleblocked.

tbh that's a lot better than considering it "self-resolving."

Frankly this game has way too much dead weight, and the Lurkmass Rule suggests at least one timid scum among it. Pine's slot is probably going to end up replaced at this point, so there's no point in pressuring it right now. I do want more out of gobbledegook if he intends to play, I like what I've seen of Alchemist since I asked him to post reads, Pooky's gimmick irritates me but I can't do a hell of a lot about the fact that he chose the gimmick before getting his role PM, and even though I've gotten Lavender to interact, those interactions are not giving me the warm fuzzies. Four slots are right now dead weight (Pooky less so, but not by much) and while I don't expect the entire game to be posting non-stop, I can't get reads on what won't speak to me.

[username]

Four slots are right now dead weight (Pooky less so, but not by much)

by that I mean Pine, gobble, Lavender, Pooky, since Alchemist is presently taking my suggestion to prove his worth

[username]

Pooky what even is that vote

There's no better scumreads and we need to elim someone other than Alch D1 or we lose info

I got a question

You want to vote outside of Alchemist or "lose info"

But your vote is on someone whose lurkiness can't tell us anything either. Like, what info do you gain by executing a slot that's basically absent and on whom anyone can justify a vote, leaving associative tells null?

I'm not saying that gobble deserves to live, mind you. I'm just curious how you're worried about getting the most info out of an execution while voting to kill someone whose execution will tell us just as little?

[username]

@anyone: is the active lurking "just waiting to answer questions" bit unusual for lavender?

@lavender: please link me your favorite scum game and your favorite town game

[username]

where I'm at now are that DGB, Pooky, Vecna are town.

My scumreads are Lavender, Doctor Drew, and I have a super secret scum read based on a personal tell (ie behavior toward me) that nets me scum about 75-90% of the time but I keep that one close to the vest. Someone tripped it and they don't know it, but I'm not willing to scumread based on that alone. But I'm watching that person very closely. If you think it means you then it probably does

Pine, gobble, Lavender probably have a scum among them and I'm still betting lavender

We're nearly 60 pages in and around this time I like to start making predictions about pairs based on observations and tells. But it's the weekend and I work double shifts on the overnight on weekends, so I'll try and start diving into that tomorrow in between my customary two hours of sleep.

[username]

I read most of the game thinking that Username was saying he was ABR, at least after he said BUT I'M HERE awhile ago I have thought that Username was ABR in the setting of thinking he was ABR. I have come to realize that probably he meant to intimate being kuribo. I'm not sure how that changes my thinking really, but I would say that it makes me trust my initial feelings less, because they were based on a false premise of Username being ABR.

wait are you saying i'm imitating kuribo


what a weird take

[username]

1 1/4 days to be specific.

Where the fuck is everybody?

i work double shifts on weekends because i'm still doing 70 hours a week until my wedding day


can't really speak for anyone else though

[username]

I read most of the game thinking that Username was saying he was ABR, at least after he said BUT I'M HERE awhile ago I have thought that Username was ABR in the setting of thinking he was ABR. I have come to realize that probably he meant to intimate being kuribo. I'm not sure how that changes my thinking really, but I would say that it makes me trust my initial feelings less, because they were based on a false premise of Username being ABR.

wait are you saying i'm imitating kuribo


what a weird take

oh intimate, not imitate


still i'm kinda depressed that you confused me for ABR

[username]

Lavender not really participating, but I'm not getting a scummy vibe there.

hi, new person, but can you elaborate on your reasoning for me?

[username]

wait hold up

how did Iecrint think that I was ABR

Remember that time in Gay Mafia when we were scum and Nobody Special was a 3rd Party AIDS giver and we let him live and it turned out that he was a delayed vanillaizer who removed the powers of anyone he visited or who visited anyone with AIDS and he was able to leave the game when everyone was infected with AIDS?

Iecrint was literally in this game! viewtopic.php?t=21301

AND also in this game:

Also, remember that time in Gay Mafia II when twilight hit and I thought you were scum, but it turned out that you were just a serial killer so you NK'd me N1 and then you won a Scummy for Best Third Party?

viewtopic.php?t=24354

[username]

Y'all best kill me tonight because this counterwagon to save Lavender is so blatant that you may as well be posting your PT

[username]

Talk to me about Doctor drew, somebody

I just went throw my own iso to refresh my mind and apparently I was townreading Iecerinth early game for wonky reasons

We were wagoning drew, then he said a bunch of stuff that apparently sounded towny-desperate or whatever. Was that really a good enough reason for us to stop murdering him?

I mean, he's scum, there's not much to talk about

[username]

Who're the scums?

You for one



Oh shit I revealed my secret scumread that tripped my 90% scumtell. Don't bother engaging with me on this if you're going to drag me into some toxic-ass screaming.

Bingle very likely replaced into a scum slot.

[username]

Color me

surprised

as the only person to really engage with you before you'd said that.



We can agree on Bingle. Drew is ehhh but I get it if you haven't played with them. If I gave you a gun, are these the three you'd shoot from? Just curious as to how we're going to play tomorrow.

Maybe fair enough about engagement and I don't know how accurate the tell is when I'm not posting as "myself," this is all very new to me, playing on an alt I mean.

My problem when I'm town is that I have severe trust issues in Mafia and I end up with way too many scum reads on day one. So it's easier to focus on the scummiest one in a large.

I've played with Drew before, but I don't accept "hes always scummy" as an out. It lets scummy players get away with scummy things, and even if they're always scummy, sometimes they're just scum. The counterpoint is that some players always look TOWN even when they're scum.

I admit to not being familiar with Lavender. I asked her for a scum game because I wanted to know if this is par for the course, but she claims not to have had any. This should reassure me about her being town if this is just her style, but it doesn't: we have no body of work to compare her scum game to.

I'd be willing to come off Lavender for Drew and maybe Bingle. I've barely been keeping up since Saturday or so, and as a result I'm not really invested in whatever the case is on Iec. Although I did find it bizarre that he was in two games with me that I referenced and somehow still thought I was someone else.

I hate day one.

[username]

Back to your original question, if I had a gun, who I shot would be dependent on what today's execution flipped

[username]

I DEMAND CLAIMS

Vanilly Hillbilly

[username]

Scum jail keep makes sense in a game with a claimed vig

Town jail keep makes sense too


I don't like that Lavender didn't know the name of her role

Like even if it's flavorized jailkeep, I don't imagine baker goes "I'll just call it a Hillbilly PR."

[username]

I'd volunteer to be jailkept tonight but I'd rather get NK'd

[username]

unvote

[username]

Lynch Iecerint. Lavender town told and Iec doesn't know it because he couldn't.

Truuuuust me lynch Iec.

I just wanna point out that I'm not unvoting lavender because I trust you but because I got a weird gut feeling about her all of a sudden

[username]

1593 and 1598 are not a good look.

As usual I'll vote whenever I want, however I want

[username]

Hey you cracked the code and all it took was me saying fifteen times that I'm Kuribo and alt slipping

[username]

I’ve read a total of ten pages. I thought you were a newb, and self conscious posting is a strong new scum tell. Sue me.

I'm just messing with you, I'm more annoyed Iecrint thought I was ABR

Like yeesh

[username]

I'm just messing with you, I'm more annoyed Iecrint thought I was ABR

You said "I'm still here <3" after I noted that ABR had replaced out, which made me think you were saying that you-ABR were playing on an alt and intentionally using a different playstyle.

I didn't remember seeing you-as-kuribo in the sign-out thread, so I did not have context for anyone else "still" being around.

I was referring to you talking about trying to read DGB, who I have never misread in thirteen years.

And I didn't use the signup thread. Baker PMs me to invite me to most if not all of his games, and though I usually decline, I told him I'd play this one if I could play an alt

[username]

Oh dear god


This is role madness isn't it

I'm the token VT aren't I (nobody correct me if I'm wrong)

That's just great

[username]

Bastard could mean the cop isn't sane. Could be a scum rolecop.


Hell even in non bastard games, ninjas can exist without trackers and watchers. I've done it in games I've modded, creating counters to roles that don't exist

[username]

I'm here


What's the count?

[username]

Lavender


Any last words?



PEDIT NOOOOO I wanted to give a hammer speech

In nomine Satani, by the power vested in me, Lord's Prayer in reverse, when you get to hell tell them Kuribo sent you Etc etc


You've robbed me of my pageantry

[username]

I kinda think they're both town, tbh.

My role makes no sense with a town Jailkeeper.

I could be wrong.

If they're smart they'll NK me before trying to come after you

[username]

I case I eat bullets tonight


Vecna Pooky Elsa DGB - town. Elsa is a weak townread the other three are relatively strong.

Scumreads depend on the lavender flip, but I still like Drew for scum. Chances are there's one scum at least in TL/Logical/Almost50/pisskop. Maybe two but not three. I guess I lean pisskop more town than null right now though.

At least one scum between Lavender/Galron/Bingle, still leaning Bingle.

[username]

Chkflip still gives me weird feelings but I've expressed the reasoning behind it and I actually feel a little better about the slot now.

[username]

At least one scum between Lavender/Galron/Bingle, still leaning Bingle.

Bingle if lavender flips town obv

[username]

I do believe you're right Lich

[username]

I hate to say it but I don't see lavender as the kind of player who would think to fake a town slip at E-1

I'd have been happier if she'd included some final reads when she thought she was dead

I mean she still can


Less than an hour to go

vote: Iecrint

Batter up!

[username]

Iec I want your reads before the day ends or the hammer drops

[username]

I demand that NO ONE target the 3p garbage role tonight.

Even the vig.

We're going to have to day-eliminate this deadweight.

That’s anti Town and I refuse to let that be the case.
I believe if 2 people target them and they confirm that they have the 1-shots from them then they become confirmed 3P.
Plus they leave the game I believe so we would honestly just be wasting an elimination.

Hi you're here

I want your reads too before the day ends

[username]

I'm not convinced Iec is scum, but I'm not willing to end the day on no lynch either

[username]

Fifteen minutes, it's fuck or walk time

[username]

Fuck it

Sorry lavender, hope next time you town before deadline

unvote

Vote lavender

No speech, I take no joy in this

[username]

My reads are as they were when last I spoke, if I die before I wake I pray lord Satan the scum will take

[username]

DGB I'll be at your altar

Peace, love, empathy

[username]

I'm not convinced Iec is scum, but I'm not willing to end the day on no lynch either

I was, FWIW.

I believe you I think

[username]

The main problem with the competing wagons is that the deadline poisons them

Going to no-execute is way worse than two players you aren't sure of. Lavender town slipped hard and it was too late to fix by then without making day one a complete waste

I wanna look back at who hopped on Lavender after I started that one rolling.

I expect two scum on that wagon. One is possible, more than two with competing town wagons isn't likely. All town is possible but real unlikely after the slip.

[username]

I kinda think they're both town, tbh.

I also think you're being exceptionally useless with your 3p tunnel.

Yeah, I'm pretty okay with day ending without a death right here.

Bingle's probably town although I don't like that wagon breaking down in favor of two town wagons.

Actually two town TPRs.

I'm still assuming this to be role madness or very nearly so, so two town PRs doesn't surprise me

[username]

Lavender's town slip was extremely believable but that doesn't do any good a few hours before deadline or whatever it was

[username]

Once deadline is coming and both leading wagons are on town, all scum has to do is sit on their hands


I'd bet my left nut there's at least one scum that was watching the thread and didn't post

[username]

Scum chk doesn't need to keep pushing Iec after Lavender town slipped though

[username]

Like there are a LOT of ways to look town as scum and staying on a claimed cop at deadline ain't one of them

[username]

Why your left nut? Do you favor your right one more?

It's a figure of speech I've been using for a lot of years


I always bet the left one first

[username]

Lavender's town slip was extremely believable but that doesn't do any good a few hours before deadline or whatever it was

Same to you. How was it extremely believable when he didn't even know what a jailkeeper was?

Asked and answered when I commented on it, wiseacre.

I hate to say it but I don't see lavender as the kind of player who would think to fake a town slip at E-1

I'd have been happier if she'd included some final reads when she thought she was dead

I mean she still can


Less than an hour to go

vote: Iecrint

Batter up!

[username]

I’m asking the mod to be sure there’s no mod error but it looks like I didn’t get anything last Night.

Your either lying or I was roleblocked.

Maybe y'all shoulda listened to me and DGB yesterday instead of whining about how the slot was self resolving


SURE AS SHIT LOOKS RESOLVED NOW HUH

[username]

Scum chk doesn't need to keep pushing Iec after Lavender town slipped though

Neither does Town chk.

I don't know chk well enough to comment on that, just more of a gut feeling from tone

[username]

Oh man, if you have a post restriction Pooky........this will be my most favorite game ever.

But seriously, votes on Pooky please.

Refusal to do is a scum claim.

Pre Edit: I should have bribed Baker a bit more, I just assumed he would make me 3p again......at this point is is basically a meme.

Also looking back I don’t really like

Bolded

as a fast day 1 elimination is one of the worst things to do.
You receive barley if not no information.
(I also stated what the deal is with Pooky before)
However you have claimed VT and your claim looked better then username’s VT claim IMO so I’m not wanting to eliminate you today.
However I still don’t like this post.

His claim doesn't look better than mine as VT


For example, I'm a Vanilly Hillbilly and you'll note that there's no sample VT role PM in the OP

[username]

It doesn't make him a liar about his role absorbing other roles but it does throw suspicion into his claimed wincon, and yes even about his alignment

[username]

One would think a reflexive role wouldn't be able to be rolestopped


One would think a reflexive role absorber would absorb the role stop.

One would think a person with that reflexive role would think to ask the mod what happens if a role stopper targets them

[username]

Oh man, if you have a post restriction Pooky........this will be my most favorite game ever.

But seriously, votes on Pooky please.

Refusal to do is a scum claim.

Pre Edit: I should have bribed Baker a bit more, I just assumed he would make me 3p again......at this point is is basically a meme.

Also looking back I don’t really like

Bolded

as a fast day 1 elimination is one of the worst things to do.
You receive barley if not no information.
(I also stated what the deal is with Pooky before)
However you have claimed VT and your claim looked better then username’s VT claim IMO so I’m not wanting to eliminate you today.
However I still don’t like this post.

His claim doesn't look better than mine as VT


For example, I'm a Vanilly Hillbilly and you'll note that there's no sample VT role PM in the OP

Yeah but look at how and when he claimed it.

I mean I could cite you a dozen town games where I claimed VT on day one as VT

[username]

One would think a reflexive role wouldn't be able to be rolestopped


One would think a reflexive role absorber would absorb the role stop.

One would think a person with that reflexive role would think to ask the mod what happens if a role stopper targets them

Did I miss something?
Does he also have the Reflexive Modifier?

Is reflexive not a modifier that activates based on people targeting you or do I have that mixed up

[username]

Yes but your claim was more random where his was more genuine.

and yet claiming a non visiting role on day one, not knowing if town has trackers or watchers, would be suicide as scum

Especially knowing that I can't get away with changing my claim these days as scum

[username]

.....


That's not even a VT claim