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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:02 pm

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ahoy there!

y’all better not take me to F3 again
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Post Post #5 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 4, SherlockHolmes wrote:Our journey began, Watson, at the station. A motley bunch of characters were boarding the train with little knowledge of the tale of peril and daring that was yet to come...
(it's a boat)
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Post Post #39 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:47 am

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In post 34, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:1) What is your favourite type of boat?

A cruise ship with lots of booze and food

2) Should Shrek continue his RP? Please answer yes to this question.

we should kill him if he doesn't

3) Who would you throw overboard? Please pick the person you feel has the most to live for.

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so many numbers

so little time
time is not my speciality I will admit

but the numbers stay because I keep not cutting them and it’s tradition at this point
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Post Post #43 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 41, pighawk wrote:
In post 39, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 34, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:1) What is your favourite type of boat?

A cruise ship with lots of booze and food

2) Should Shrek continue his RP? Please answer yes to this question.

we should kill him if he doesn't

3) Who would you throw overboard? Please pick the person you feel has the most to live for.

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so many numbers

so little time
time is not my speciality I will admit

but the numbers stay because I keep not cutting them and it’s tradition at this point
Where’s your day 1 gambit oink?
it's simple logic really
I went to F3 after doing the D1 gambit
so in order to not go to F3, I have to not do the D1 gambit
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Post Post #56 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:25 pm

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In post 53, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:When someone is certain they have a scum player figured out they use FINGER OF DEATH on that scum - we all vote him.

if that person is scum - we win.

if that person is town, we lynch whoever used the FINGER OF DEATH in the end-game.
I think this is objectively a bad plan, especially because it’s been called

Playing under the assumption that scum are willing to WIFOM this out and will never push a partner:
Town on town - (7/9) * (3/4) = 7/12 = 58.3%
Town on scum - (7/9) * (1/4) = 7/36 = 19.4%
Scum on town - (2/9) = 2/9 = 22.2%

So mathematically that works out to a 58.3% scum winrate, while voting randomly (1-(7/9 * 2/3)) is only a 51.8% chance
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Post Post #59 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:18 pm

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you can run from it but math still arrives
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Post Post #85 (isolation #6) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 84, Shrek and Donkey wrote:yeah, the RP is officially getting in the way of scumhunting. it would be great if we could drop it and lynch some fools by playing mafia.

-unicorn
feels weird coming from you of all people tbh
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Post Post #89 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:59 pm

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In post 86, Shrek and Donkey wrote:oh yeah? when do i ever rp? i shitpost, but i feel thats a bit different. i also shit post, but thats for sure different.
-unicorn
Your partner is RPing but I...don’t really see how different it is
In post 88, AliceRaider45 wrote:I am talking about Shrek not Chemist for clarification.
To be fair you wouldn’t be wrong if you were talking about me

Game feels like a crawl rn which is not great for my engagement level
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Post Post #90 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:01 pm

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If I were to force something out, Hectic seems sort of unmotivated to solve and I don’t really like Hopkirk being more banter-y than not

please only remember this read if it’s correct
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Post Post #104 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:37 am

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In post 97, Hoptic wrote:How come you haven't made a single comment on my scumread?
how come you haven't made a single comment on your scumread?

you just voted and said you were happy without it without reasoning or even an indication it was serious
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Post Post #106 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 79, pighawk wrote:I feel like there's some good nuggets here so far, I haven't had a chance to digest yet. I will be signing my posts for those who are keeping track. Thoughts to come later, but wanted to make an entrance, Pork's got it rollin.

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I had this post as showing a mindset I'm in ~relatively commonly as town

lack of follow-up is kinda eh but we're still on page 5
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Post Post #143 (isolation #11) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:41 pm

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I mean

whoever had the point about pighawk asking the questions with no follow-up did have a valid point
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Post Post #208 (isolation #12) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:38 am

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VOTE: Egix

I’m interested to see where this goes
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Post Post #210 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:54 am

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it was indeed lazy but this game is sorta crawling

plus Egix seems like if he’s town he’ll end up in the same situation I did last game most likely
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Post Post #228 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:06 pm

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I mean

I think talking about townreads is fine as long as people like, genuinely analyze them and use them as tools to scumhunt
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Post Post #241 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:38 am

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In post 239, chkflip wrote:Chemist, as the only person here I've played with: why aren't you voting?
I am voting, the mod just listed my vote incorrectly as Egix's vote
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Post Post #247 (isolation #16) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:31 am

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In post 245, chkflip wrote:
In post 241, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 239, chkflip wrote:Chemist, as the only person here I've played with: why aren't you voting?
I am voting, the mod just listed my vote incorrectly as Egix's vote
I feel goofy af.

Why Egix?
it's essentially a "c'mon, do something" vote b/c the game was kinda dead
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Post Post #361 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:09 pm

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Here and not hammering

This feels like a gambit that is approximately as well thought out as mine from last version but I'll townread it anyway
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Post Post #362 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:10 pm

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I advise you unvote, PH

I think you're town based off this and you've gotten the gamestate warp you wanted
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Post Post #457 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:04 am

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VOTE: Alice

Post towards pighawk looks like a towncred grab given that they were already voting PH
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Post Post #542 (isolation #20) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:53 am

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I’m lock clear because I would never willingly make myself go through this again don’t @ me
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Post Post #543 (isolation #21) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:54 am

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unfortunately

I would always stump egix here over myself as scum so I’m not actually lock clear
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Post Post #629 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:07 am

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In post 623, pighawk wrote:
In post 362, Chemist1422 wrote:I advise you unvote, PH

I think you're town based off this and you've gotten the gamestate warp you wanted
In post 457, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: Alice

Post towards pighawk looks like a towncred grab given that they were already voting PH
Chem has f you thought I was town, why would Alice’s vote on me look like a grab for towncred?
It wasn’t the vote

It was a lack of hammer vote on a wagon they were already on
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Post Post #631 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:34 am

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fwiw

I play up my hate for F3 but I think it's pretty much all WIFOM in this setup which is not super fun imo

I've joined this setup twice because I've liked the playerlist and mod and I like playing treestump

ok back to more directly relevant stuff
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Post Post #630 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:34 am

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fwiw

I play up my hate for F3 but I think it's pretty much all WIFOM in this setup which is not super fun imo

I've joined this setup twice because I've liked the playerlist and mod and I like playing treestump

ok back to more directly relevant stuff
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Post Post #638 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:55 am

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I'm lurking harder because this game is twice as slow :v
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Post Post #639 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:57 am

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In post 96, Egix96 wrote:
In post 89, Chemist1422 wrote: Game feels like a crawl rn which is not great for my engagement level
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In post 90, Chemist1422 wrote:If I were to force something out, Hectic seems sort of unmotivated to solve and I don’t really like Hopkirk being more banter-y than not

please only remember this read if it’s correct
Tbf, Hect does feel a bit less "serious mode" compared to the game where I was scum with him.
In post 95, pighawk wrote:Ok here’s something:

This spoiler contains four posts from four players. Rank these posts from Towniest to Scumiest and give a reason.

Spoiler:
In post 53, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:When someone is certain they have a scum player figured out they use FINGER OF DEATH on that scum - we all vote him.

if that person is scum - we win.

if that person is town, we lynch whoever used the FINGER OF DEATH in the end-game.
In post 54, AliceRaider45 wrote:Crazy, let's do it!
In post 56, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 53, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:When someone is certain they have a scum player figured out they use FINGER OF DEATH on that scum - we all vote him.

if that person is scum - we win.

if that person is town, we lynch whoever used the FINGER OF DEATH in the end-game.
I think this is objectively a bad plan, especially because it’s been called

Playing under the assumption that scum are willing to WIFOM this out and will never push a partner:
Town on town - (7/9) * (3/4) = 7/12 = 58.3%
Town on scum - (7/9) * (1/4) = 7/36 = 19.4%
Scum on town - (2/9) = 2/9 = 22.2%

So mathematically that works out to a 58.3% scum winrate, while voting randomly (1-(7/9 * 2/3)) is only a 51.8% chance
In post 58, Hoptic wrote:It's somehow even more magnificent than before.

Reads:
• Shrek and Donkey are probably unaligned.
• Sherlock Holmes is very kind for repeating out loud everything he writes.

FINGER OF DEATH: Misty


Your first mistake was assuming the finger of death was bound to your mortal rules of EV calculation. What would you like your final meal to be?

pighawk, why did warrant a vote?

-Hecti
I feel like I would have to do a lot of incessant nitpicking in order to derive anything from this.
let's talk about this post

does egix mention not being able to get anything from it because he knows they're all town and can't get a non-biased view of it, or because he doesn't want to take a stance on his partner?
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Post Post #641 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:04 am

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Post Post #644 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:19 am

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In post 642, pighawk wrote:
In post 641, Chemist1422 wrote:[static]
Let's hear your 'static' thoughts on Hoptic and Chkflip!

~Hawk
chk seems a bit more transparent this f3, I would probably vote hoptic over them if I had to vote right now
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Post Post #651 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 650, AliceRaider45 wrote:When are Hoptic and Chemist cross voting?
soon, maybe

are we boring you?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:44 pm

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In post 652, pighawk wrote:Chem, what’s your current read?

If you were scum, who would you put in 3p and why?
Alice and Hoptic maybe just as the less townclear slots

Maybe chk instead of hoptic
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Post Post #684 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:08 am

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In post 683, pighawk wrote:
In post 681, pighawk wrote:Does anyone else find it strange that a hydra keeps melding the Hawk and Pig opinions into one? Or the fact that a hydra with two players gets prodded?

~Hawk
The scum in this 3p is going to try and fit in as hard as possible. So if the two town don’t post the scum won’t. It’s incumbent on the two town players to set the pace. And of course more words are better.
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that’s why I’m inclined to lean towards chk town because he doesn’t seem like he’s trying to blend in
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Post Post #712 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:15 pm

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I think Hoptic is cherry-picking into a push on me based off me pushing them over chk
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Post Post #716 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:34 pm

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In post 713, Hoptic wrote:Where's the cherry picking, Misty?

-Hectoc
you’re talking about the stuff I don’t have compared to the stuff I do (specifically re: pighawk push)
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Post Post #717 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:35 pm

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In post 714, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Ugh, I'm very lazy and bad at going through Chemists' games. Chem would say it's fair to say you seem to get caught pretty fast as scum? On a quick glance that seemed to be the trend.
Probably around 75% of the time on this site ye

On other sites I can play to much higher levels but for some reason it just doesn’t manifest here
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Post Post #718 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:45 pm

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If you want a game where I didn’t get caught early check Animals uPick though I definitely could have played better in that one
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Post Post #731 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:51 am

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I'm a bit fuzzy in general rn I should probably be getting more sleep

I'm also not convinced I'm ever going to talk myself into voting flip so intent to vote hoptic
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Post Post #740 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:01 am

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I don't want to be that guy but I think hop getting mad at people not seeing me as scummy for my lylo play feels like scum emotion moreso than towny, especially if he's strongly considering chk as scum as well
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Post Post #742 (isolation #38) » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:03 am

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In post 739, chkflip wrote:If you're insinuating I'm waiting to vote Hoptic, you're dead wrong.

Hop, I'd suggest taking some time away from the thread and just ignoring the slot because AFAIK it is majority frowned upon to block a slot you're currently in a game with.

Chem, what's
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case on Hoptic? I may have missed it.
their early d1 felt weaker than I'd expect and I haven't liked their approach to F3, feels reactionary in a scummy way
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Post Post #759 (isolation #39) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 742, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 739, chkflip wrote:If you're insinuating I'm waiting to vote Hoptic, you're dead wrong.

Hop, I'd suggest taking some time away from the thread and just ignoring the slot because AFAIK it is majority frowned upon to block a slot you're currently in a game with.

Chem, what's
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case on Hoptic? I may have missed it.
their early d1 felt weaker than I'd expect
and I haven't liked their approach to F3, feels reactionary in a scummy way
it’s right here
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Post Post #761 (isolation #40) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:46 am

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In post 760, chkflip wrote:Right, no, I mean how does it transition from the quoted post to where it is now? I should've been more clear with both of you tbh but rl stuff.
it’s kinda just a basis that’s sitting in the back of my mind

it hasn’t really changed but more has been added to the scumread
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Post Post #763 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:49 am

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I’m gonna

VOTE: Hoptic

Because I don’t see myself ending up anywhere else and I don’t see the game progressing without votes
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Post Post #764 (isolation #42) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:49 am

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flame me if this is wrong but I think I got it
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Post Post #776 (isolation #43) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:28 am

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gg
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Post Post #781 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:18 am

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In post 780, Hoptic wrote:
In post 763, Chemist1422 wrote:I’m gonna

VOTE: Hoptic

Because I don’t see myself ending up anywhere else and I don’t see the game progressing without votes
The game could have progressed if you actually engaged with us in any way by responding to any of the many points we raised rather than just saying 'I think Hoptic is scum so I'm not going to engage with anything they're saying.' :(

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I was never intending to approach your slot in bad faith

I got paranoid that you were and didn’t know how to handle it and that’s on me
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Post Post #782 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:41 am

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if it wasn’t clear, I don’t take F3 well
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