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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:38 pm

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In post 669, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 663, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 304, AniX wrote:The amount of people actually, legitimately bent out of shape and to some degree UPSET AND ANGRY about having to use a different word in a forum game because a different word is hurtful to some people is...pathetic to say the absolute least. You'd think half these people were the ones who wrote the standard definition of lynch in the dictionary, the way they are taking something extremely easy, simple, and inconsequential for them to follow so personally.
Definition of lynch according to Google
Definition of lynch according to Merriam-Webster
Definition of lynch according to Cambridge English Dictionary
Definition of lynch according to Dictionary.com

Hence, I am utterly confused by how this word is even supposed to offend anyone.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:38 pm

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In post 652, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 648, DeathNote wrote:Yes it is. The opinion is that Lynching has nothing to do with race which is racist as Lynching has everything to do with race.
Do not confuse the United States with the entire world.
maybe don't claim there is literally no history of the word being racially charged when it obviously is?

Like seriously, your claim is incorrect, you have been shown it is incorrect. Yet you continue to argue it.

I guess you can fuck off too.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:39 pm

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In post 674, DeathNote wrote:Because lots of black people died by racists white people.
Nobody here is arguing against saying 'died' though.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:40 pm

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In post 664, AniX wrote:
In post 658, Nero Cain wrote:you guys do know that lynchings happened long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade. I mean, yes, the word lynch does carry so many racist undertones b/c of how the KKK used lynches for black ppl but I just wanted to point out that it is has been a punishment for ONLY blacks is absolutely false.
Nobody has suggested that ONLY black people have ever been lynched. They are saying that the term lynching has been so irreversibly linked to the systematic murder of black people in the United States that it has overtaken in priority any mundane usage of the term.

There are mundane uses of the Swastika and they extend back far further than the Nazi regime, but you'll have a tough argument in suggesting we should allow swastika avatar even if they aren't the Nazi kind.
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:40 pm

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In post 677, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 674, DeathNote wrote:Because lots of black people died by racists white people.
Nobody here is arguing against saying 'died' though.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:40 pm

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In post 658, Nero Cain wrote:you guys do know that lynchings happened long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade. I mean, yes, the word lynch does carry so many racist undertones b/c of how the KKK used lynches for black ppl but I just wanted to point out that it is has been a punishment for ONLY blacks is absolutely false.
I don't believe this is the claim being made here.

The term has racist undertones and therefore should not be used.

Easy.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:41 pm

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In post 677, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 674, DeathNote wrote:Because lots of black people died by racists white people.
Nobody here is arguing against saying 'died' though.
yes, we're arguing against saying "lynched" which, in the context of recent history, has a very specific connotation against black people

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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:41 pm

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Right, because died has never been a term in any country that was used specifically to refer to a type of systematic murder of minority populations. It never lost its generality. In the United States, lynching has.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:41 pm

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In post 678, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 664, AniX wrote:
In post 658, Nero Cain wrote:you guys do know that lynchings happened long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade. I mean, yes, the word lynch does carry so many racist undertones b/c of how the KKK used lynches for black ppl but I just wanted to point out that it is has been a punishment for ONLY blacks is absolutely false.
Nobody has suggested that ONLY black people have ever been lynched. They are saying that the term lynching has been so irreversibly linked to the systematic murder of black people in the United States that it has overtaken in priority any mundane usage of the term.

There are mundane uses of the Swastika and they extend back far further than the Nazi regime, but you'll have a tough argument in suggesting we should allow swastika avatar even if they aren't the Nazi kind.
Heard of the Red Swastika Society? There is one where I live.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:42 pm

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In post 678, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 664, AniX wrote:
In post 658, Nero Cain wrote:you guys do know that lynchings happened long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade. I mean, yes, the word lynch does carry so many racist undertones b/c of how the KKK used lynches for black ppl but I just wanted to point out that it is has been a punishment for ONLY blacks is absolutely false.
Nobody has suggested that ONLY black people have ever been lynched. They are saying that the term lynching has been so irreversibly linked to the systematic murder of black people in the United States that it has overtaken in priority any mundane usage of the term.

There are mundane uses of the Swastika and they extend back far further than the Nazi regime, but you'll have a tough argument in suggesting we should allow swastika avatar even if they aren't the Nazi kind.
Heard of the Red Swastika Society? There is one where I live.
So do you believe that if someone wished to put their logo up as their avatar, that should be permitted?
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 674, DeathNote wrote:
In post 663, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 304, AniX wrote:The amount of people actually, legitimately bent out of shape and to some degree UPSET AND ANGRY about having to use a different word in a forum game because a different word is hurtful to some people is...pathetic to say the absolute least. You'd think half these people were the ones who wrote the standard definition of lynch in the dictionary, the way they are taking something extremely easy, simple, and inconsequential for them to follow so personally.
Definition of lynch according to Google
Definition of lynch according to Merriam-Webster
Definition of lynch according to Cambridge English Dictionary
Definition of lynch according to Dictionary.com

Hence, I am utterly confused by how this word is even supposed to offend anyone.
Because lots of black people died by racists white people.

Also I'm utterly confused as to why you care? Either the word is racist or it isn't, why does it matter to you if it stays or go?
It actually doesn't. I just wanted to understand how a word that doesn't refer to a group of people was racist.
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 684, AniX wrote:
In post 678, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 664, AniX wrote:
In post 658, Nero Cain wrote:you guys do know that lynchings happened long before the trans-Atlantic slave trade. I mean, yes, the word lynch does carry so many racist undertones b/c of how the KKK used lynches for black ppl but I just wanted to point out that it is has been a punishment for ONLY blacks is absolutely false.
Nobody has suggested that ONLY black people have ever been lynched. They are saying that the term lynching has been so irreversibly linked to the systematic murder of black people in the United States that it has overtaken in priority any mundane usage of the term.

There are mundane uses of the Swastika and they extend back far further than the Nazi regime, but you'll have a tough argument in suggesting we should allow swastika avatar even if they aren't the Nazi kind.
Heard of the Red Swastika Society? There is one where I live.
So do you believe that if someone wished to put their logo up as their avatar, that should be permitted?
I make no judgement on the matter.
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm

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I have a serious and simple suggestion for a replacement verb: "mobbed". it's one syllable and the word "mob" is already a small part of site culture with "a mob has formed". it doesn't have went overlap with other terminology and it clearly suggests the idea of a large group ganging up on one person.
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:44 pm

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In post 685, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:It actually doesn't. I just wanted to understand how a word that doesn't refer to a group of people was racist.
I'm sure there's a lot you want to understand. Good luck climbing that hill some day.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:45 pm

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Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 687, xyzzy wrote:I have a serious and simple suggestion for a replacement verb: "mobbed". it's one syllable and the word "mob" is already a small part of site culture with "a mob has formed". it doesn't have went overlap with other terminology and it clearly suggests the idea of a large group ganging up on one person.
Oh I like it. Lemme try it out..

Flashmobbed lol

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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 pm

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In post 685, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 674, DeathNote wrote:
In post 663, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 304, AniX wrote:The amount of people actually, legitimately bent out of shape and to some degree UPSET AND ANGRY about having to use a different word in a forum game because a different word is hurtful to some people is...pathetic to say the absolute least. You'd think half these people were the ones who wrote the standard definition of lynch in the dictionary, the way they are taking something extremely easy, simple, and inconsequential for them to follow so personally.
Definition of lynch according to Google
Definition of lynch according to Merriam-Webster
Definition of lynch according to Cambridge English Dictionary
Definition of lynch according to Dictionary.com

Hence, I am utterly confused by how this word is even supposed to offend anyone.
Because lots of black people died by racists white people.

Also I'm utterly confused as to why you care? Either the word is racist or it isn't, why does it matter to you if it stays or go?
It actually doesn't. I just wanted to understand how a word that doesn't refer to a group of people was racist.
Because it refers, in the United States, specifically to a type of systematic murder of people of a certain race. A dictionary doesn't intend to capture sociopolitical circumstances so it doesn't include that context, but that doesn't mean the context isn't there.

There are plenty of things that don't specifically refer to a group of people but nevertheless carries racial animus with it because of how it was used over years and years.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 pm

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In post 691, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
Nobody cares moron.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm

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In post 691, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
I mean, it seems like you're going out of your way to not understand. What do you think?

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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:48 pm

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In post 692, AniX wrote:
In post 685, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 674, DeathNote wrote:
In post 663, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 304, AniX wrote:The amount of people actually, legitimately bent out of shape and to some degree UPSET AND ANGRY about having to use a different word in a forum game because a different word is hurtful to some people is...pathetic to say the absolute least. You'd think half these people were the ones who wrote the standard definition of lynch in the dictionary, the way they are taking something extremely easy, simple, and inconsequential for them to follow so personally.
Definition of lynch according to Google
Definition of lynch according to Merriam-Webster
Definition of lynch according to Cambridge English Dictionary
Definition of lynch according to Dictionary.com

Hence, I am utterly confused by how this word is even supposed to offend anyone.
Because lots of black people died by racists white people.

Also I'm utterly confused as to why you care? Either the word is racist or it isn't, why does it matter to you if it stays or go?
It actually doesn't. I just wanted to understand how a word that doesn't refer to a group of people was racist.
Because it refers, in the United States, specifically to a type of systematic murder of people of a certain race. A dictionary doesn't intend to capture sociopolitical circumstances so it doesn't include that context, but that doesn't mean the context isn't there.

There are plenty of things that don't specifically refer to a group of people but nevertheless carries racial animus with it because of how it was used over years and years.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 694, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 691, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
I mean, it seems like you're going out of your way to not understand. What do you think?

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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 677, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 674, DeathNote wrote:Because lots of black people died by racists white people.
Nobody here is arguing against saying 'died' though.
You're so right. In fact, why don't we still just keep calling Germans Nazi. Words are meaningless anyways right?
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:50 pm

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In post 696, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 694, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 691, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
I mean, it seems like you're going out of your way to not understand. What do you think?

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I wasn't. I've understood.
In that case, my apologies, and thanks for your openness! I didn't mean to prejudge your posting.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 698, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 696, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 694, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 691, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 689, Ythan wrote:Yeah this Fred guy is just another low effort idiot troll.
This is considered trolling?
I mean, it seems like you're going out of your way to not understand. What do you think?

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I wasn't. I've understood.
In that case, my apologies, and thanks for your openness! I didn't mean to prejudge your posting.
It's ok.
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