Micro 953: Treestump Express [Game Over]

[Hoptic]

Those are my first impressions anyway. I can't remember anything about chk. I'll reread and talk to Hop about it tomorrow probably.

~Hecti

[pighawk]

Pighawk, you're kinda just tunneled on us for very biased reasons tbh. Your self-vote was game throwing as town and I don't know what you expected. Like:
>self-vote and put yourself on L-1 as town
>this is game throwing and only scum do this
>we obviously lynch you
>suprisedpikachu.jpg

~Hectic

I am not reading you through the lens of my wagon.
You need to stop engaging on this point if you are town.

[Hoptic]

Just a ~feeling~ that you're letting that be a big influence on your view.

~Hect

[pighawk]

I thought you knew me better; don’t be a mark.

[pighawk]

Who were you in tree stump 1?

[Hoptic]

I advise you unvote, PH

I think you're town based off this and you've gotten the gamestate warp you wanted

Oh yeah, what was this? Did anyone else think Pighawk was town for whatever that was?

This disconnect from the consensus could be scum-indicative.

~Hec

[pighawk]

Oh just one more thing

Do you think flip genuinely thought I was at l-2 when he hammered, or was he pretending ?

[Hoptic]

I may have been an Umbreon in that game. I'll go back and check that now.

~He

[Hoptic]

Assuming the VC didn't have Pooky's vote when he hammered? Unsure but leaning towards it being legit simply because he doesn't really need to rush the day and hammer there as scum given the position you were in.

~H

[chkflip]

What makes chemist scummy?

@flip

Nothing that hasn't already been stated. The only non-parroted scummy thing I see are the first two posts of the Day contradicting one another in a really odd way. Idk that I'd call it scummy as a standalone thing, but I'm not super hot on Chem!town.

To be clear I'm not hot on Hop!town either.

[pighawk]

Sorry I’d love to hear it in your own words is all.

[chkflip]

I see no purpose in parroting is all.

[Hoptic]

Why do you think you were picked for your EoD rage, chk? Do people normally scumread you for rage? I've only seen people townread you for it.

~He

[chkflip]

It's NAI at the end of the day; however, PH was heavily scumming me and Idk who most of your alts are but I could pick at least a dozen names out of a hat who'd look at what I did and go "yeah that's scummy/bullshit" etc. The fact that neither of you have taken that position, yet still have me here, points moreso to the fact that my slot was null af across the board yesterday IMO. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me.

[pighawk]

I see no purpose in parroting is all.

My concern is that you are unable to articulate a believable scumread because you do not scumread him.

[chkflip]

The fact that I'm replying to you at all after you gaslit me several times yesterDay is all the good faith I'm giving you.

Parroting is a fucking scum tell. Get over it.

[pighawk]

You need to chill out. I don’t know your alignment so trying to get you to slip up is perfectly fine. If you can’t explain in your own words why you think chemist is scummy, that’s fine. I often find it difficult myself to explain my scumreads. But you don’t need to get hostile. I have no motivation to “set you up” and the sooner you get that the better!

[pighawk]

Why do you think you were picked for your EoD rage, chk? Do people normally scumread you for rage? I've only seen people townread you for it.

~He

Flip seriously let’s just move on. Only one of you is scum and it’s totally within our power to figure out who. All it will take is dialogue.

Tell me what you think about this post from hoptic.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Assuming the VC didn't have Pooky's vote when he hammered? Unsure but leaning towards it being legit simply because he doesn't really need to rush the day and hammer there as scum given the position you were in.

The VC didn't have my vote on it at the time, so it makes sense he looked at the VC and just put at L-1

[pighawk]

What gets me about that though is he declared intent a page or two earlier. It could have slipped his mind but at one point recently he knew I was at l-1

[chkflip]

My liberal use of the f-word isn't so much aggression as it is my hard standing for how I play the game.

I don't parrot.

I don't WIFOM.

I don't do other things that presently escape me but I think two examples can be enough here. I'm curious if VCA would be helpful at all here.

[chkflip]

Votecount 1.8

[4] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), PookyTheMagicalBear (315), pighawk (356)

[2] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202), Chemist1422 (208)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[2] Not voting :

chkflip, Egix96

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-05 00:57:59).

Votecount 1.9

[4] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), Egix96 (460), PookyTheMagicalBear (422)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[1] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202)

[1] AliceRaider45 :

Chemist1422 (457)

[1] Hoptic :

pighawk (466)

[1] Not voting :

chkflip

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-05 00:57:59).

This votecount was corrected from a mistaken one. For clarity, the original is below.

Spoiler:

Votecount 1.9

[3] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), Egix96 (460)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[1] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202)

[1] AliceRaider45 :

Chemist1422 (457)

[1] Hoptic :

pighawk (466)

[2] Not voting :

chkflip, PookyTheMagicalBear (418)

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-05 00:57:59).

Votecount 1.Final

[5] pighawk :

AliceRaider45 (116), Hoptic (275), Egix96 (460), PookyTheMagicalBear (422), chkflip (480)

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear :

Shrek and Donkey (372)

[1] Egix96 :

SherlockHolmes (202)

[1] AliceRaider45 :

Chemist1422 (457)

[1] Hoptic :

pighawk (466)

[0] Not voting :

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to treestump. pighawk has been stumped.

IIoA! That's a third thing I fucking hate.

But honestly I'm gonna hypocrite this once because I legitimately don't know where I stand here.

[chkflip]

Chemist staying as far away from the wagon is as scummy as Hoptic staying on it all day. Gun to my head Hoptic staying is scummier if only because Chemist would be the easy scapegoat here. As is my hammer. But they're pushing neither.

I am the confusion.

[pighawk]

I advise you unvote, PH

I think you're town based off this and you've gotten the gamestate warp you wanted

VOTE: Alice

Post towards pighawk looks like a towncred grab given that they were already voting PH

Chem has f you thought I was town, why would Alice’s vote on me look like a grab for towncred?

[chkflip]

Flip seriously let’s just move on. Only one of you is scum and it’s totally within our power to figure out who. All it will take is dialogue.

Tell me what you think about this post from hoptic.

He's using meta with me, of which I have no memory of if only because I don't remember off top any games with them that my rage was unanimously townread. So it's strange at a glance but my memory can honestly be pretty bad so they could, from their perspective, be right.

NAI

Pedit: I won't answer for Chem but I'm p sure I know their answer. It's kind of obvious.