Micro 953: Treestump Express [Game Over]

[Hoptic]

-Hopkir btw

-Hopkirk

[pighawk]

@Any stump request: I really don't have time for meta. Could one of the treestumps look through Chemist's games and see how they normally react to lylos? They took a pretty quick stance this game and it'd be helpful to know if this is alignment indicative for them.

-Hopki

So I am under the impression that you or your other head played WITH US (Chemist included) in the last Treestump, why are you asking stumps for that information? There's some super strange stuff coming from your slot.

~Hawk

[Hoptic]

Take a step back from the game Hawk. Come back when you're able to interpret things without bias. That question never mentions the last treestump game and refers to multiple games. It clearly involves looking at their meta in general. If you aren't able to get that then you should take a break from the game and come back with less bias.

Obviously I shouldn't need to explain why confirmed town are a good group of people to ask to do meta reads.

-Hopkir

[Tuxedo Mask]

On it.

[pighawk]

I think any scumread we have on hoptic is going to be called bias so idgaf. Hoptic is aping flips read here and will just as easily spam back onto chemist at the earliest oportunity. P. Obv.

[pighawk]

Take a step back from the game Hawk. Come back when you're able to interpret things without bias. That question never mentions the last treestump game and refers to multiple games. It clearly involves looking at their meta in general. If you aren't able to get that then you should take a break from the game and come back with less bias.

Obviously I shouldn't need to explain why confirmed town are a good group of people to ask to do meta reads.

-Hopkir

Or maybe you could just answer my questions instead of sweeping them under the rug?

If you would take a second to actually work with me instead of treating me like I'm scum (*Hint I'm not*) I would open up a dialog there.

~Hawk

[Hoptic]

You didn't ask a question. You attributed words to me that I clearly wasn't saying and attacked those.

No idea what the second half of your post was trying to say because you filled it with enough obscure buzzwords that it lost any meaning.

-hopki

[Hoptic]

I looked through your last posts. You haven't asked me any questions except that one where I very clearly told you that you've added extra words to the question that weren't there to (intentionally?) Misinterpret me.

-hopk

[pighawk]

I mean... if you want to make this an interrogation...

Did you or did you not play the last Treestump game? If you didn't did your partner? Also, if you/they did, why are you asking for meta on Chem if you already have first hand experience?

~Hawk

[Hoptic]

I didn't play it.
Hectic did.
I never mentioned that game.
I asked for their general lylo meta.
I just told you twice you completely misinterpreted this since I never mentioned that game and clearly said looking across their games to see if there's difference between their scum/town play in lylo. Any sensible reading of this would know I'm clearly talking about general meta since

-i say can people look at their lylo meta across alignments. That's literally what I said.
-youre the only one mentioning that treestump game

Now despite me just telling you repeatedly that you'd completely misread this you didn't even bother to read the post or either of those explanations. I honestly don't see how I can view you as anything except a brick wall.

-hop

[pighawk]

Maybe y’all to the other loving players or other stumps then? Because all you are doing now is asking for others to do research for you and telling me and hawk how bad our tunnel of you is. It’s like you are happy to just keep going back and forth with us to the exclusion of moving any other part of the game state. Your weak read on chem just looks like a copy of flip. Continually arguing directly with us isn’t making you look town IMO. But you do you.

[pighawk]

Jesus “talk to the other loving players” that should say damn phone

And by the way, I’m not trying to pick on you, I am not convinced you are scum, and I’m paranoid as hell about flip and to some extent chem but you are just not doing much to shake this read. I’m begging you; towntel somehow.

[Chemist1422]

I think Hoptic is cherry-picking into a push on me based off me pushing them over chk

[Hoptic]

Where's the cherry picking, Misty?

-Hectoc

[Tuxedo Mask]

Ugh, I'm very lazy and bad at going through Chemists' games. Chem would say it's fair to say you seem to get caught pretty fast as scum? On a quick glance that seemed to be the trend.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if chemist and flip both declare intent on Hoptic - we should get somewhere

let's stop stalling and put some real pressure down on them

[Chemist1422]

Where's the cherry picking, Misty?

-Hectoc

you’re talking about the stuff I don’t have compared to the stuff I do (specifically re: pighawk push)

[Chemist1422]

Ugh, I'm very lazy and bad at going through Chemists' games. Chem would say it's fair to say you seem to get caught pretty fast as scum? On a quick glance that seemed to be the trend.

Probably around 75% of the time on this site ye

On other sites I can play to much higher levels but for some reason it just doesn’t manifest here

[Chemist1422]

If you want a game where I didn’t get caught early check Animals uPick though I definitely could have played better in that one

[chkflip]

Mmm gaslighting. That's cute.

Click my username.

Click to see my threads.

Pick literally any game I've been in this year.

Do you know what you'll see?

Chemist knows.

See you D2.

What was this talking about?

-Hop

I'm really busy rn but that post was about my anger/aggression and how I often do what I did at the end of D1 during a game.

[pighawk]

Hm. No one is making this easy. Except I’m about 99% chem town here

[Hoptic]

I think Hoptic is cherry-picking into a push on me based off me pushing them over chk

Respond to my questions instead of dismissing what I'm saying as 'cherry picking'. This is just following the 'refuses to engage' pattern than I'd like someone to check if it's AI.

The second part of this is bad since it's basically saying 'I'm going to ignore anything you say because I think you're scum' which is actively avoiding responding to anything, and it's something Chemist could say no matter what we said.

Still waiting to hear Chemist's actual thoughts on both of us since he hasn't provided them in any substantial form.

Where's the cherry picking, Misty?

-Hectoc

you’re talking about the stuff I don’t have compared to the stuff I do (specifically re: pighawk push)

I can't work out what you mean here, can you reword it, unless I interpreted it right below ('stuff I don't have' is the bit I have no clue is the bit I can't work out unless have = your actions?)

If you mean 'I'm talking about things you didn't do', choosing not to engage with the wagon and actively avoiding my questions on Pig was an active choice so it's absolutely something you did. Choosing not to do something is a choice and you've ignored me asking you to justify it.

-Ho

[Hoptic]

Hm. No one is making this easy. Except I’m about 99% chem town here

then explain why...

-H

[Hoptic]

I was going to try and look at Chemist's meta to see if they avoid engaging with stuff as one alignment more than the other but Hecctic was in all four games I opened so I'm going to ask him instead.

-Ho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hm. No one is making this easy. Except I’m about 99% chem town here

then explain why...

-H

who do you think is the scum here Hoptic?