2020 scum league fantasy football

Nero Cain · Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:10 pm

with the assumption that the season goes as planned...

I'll let Mith pick who the new L1 commish is. I assume Mith will still commish L2 unless he's busy and wants a break so I'll volunteer.

/in below to play.

Rules:

Don't join unless you will participate for the entire season. Failure to do so may result in relegation or banning from the league.
All moves should be made with the intent of improving your team. Collusion is not acceptable.
See the Yahoo! rules for more information.

Rosters and Scoring:

Rosters: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 6 BN, 1 IR; Scoring is Yahoo! standard except no PPR.

League Setup:

We will have one or more leagues of 8, 10, 12, or 14 depending on the number of players signing up.
Invites will go out to the previous year's participants based on order of finish, in order to form League 1.
After signups have been open for week or two (or maybe a bit longer, since signups went up early this year) and the player list is somewhat stable, I will fill League 1 and assign remaining players to League 2 (and 3, if needed).
Don't start a league to "help out". I will select a commish for the other Leagues once I know who is going to be in the leagues.

L1

sharon
rhinox
yiley
racefan
panzer
tally
dom
kmd
peg
d3
khan
aronis

L2

Nero=Always Thuney
pabs=Pabs Blue Ribbon
reck=Get Rekt
caboose=Circle the Wagons
kilga=Tantum Bellhops
poker=Poker's Aces
pooky=Mafic Bears
aronis=injured reserve
tbone-bone's broken boners
BrightEyedFish=the fishes

Nero Cain · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:37 pm

yes, i have the L1 final standings

Nero Cain · Post Post #25 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:26 am

need 4 more

Nero Cain · Post Post #29 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:50 pm

Is there anyone that specifically wants to commish L1 this year?

Nero Cain · Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:53 pm

Still would like to get 3 more and make it an even 12 for both leagues but if not maybe we can get 1 more and make it a 12/10

Nero Cain · Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 31, mith wrote:I'll play if it's absolutely necessary for even numbers. Otherwise I think I'm out this year.

thanks, Mith. I'd rather not force you to play so hopefully, we can just find someone else to make evens but I will need you to invite me to L2 and make me commish unless you want someone else to do it this year which is fine. Also is there someone that you want to specifically run L1?

that said, anyone here that also hasn't signed up for auction wants to play it? We need 1 or 3.

Nero Cain · Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:50 pm

solid thanks guy

Nero Cain · Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:31 am

thanks guy

Nero Cain · Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:39 pm

We need a replacement in L2.

Nero Cain · Post Post #45 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:24 pm

Auction draft is set for Wednesday, September 2, 9:00 PM PDT so thats like 7 central and 6 eastren, right?

Nero Cain · Post Post #47 (isolation #10) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:18 pm

Nero Cain · Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:19 pm

oh right, i was counting backwards for some dumb reason but you're right EDT is 3 hours AHEAD of PDT.

Nero Cain · Post Post #49 (isolation #12) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:20 pm

So 12:00 EDT, 11:00 CDT

Nero Cain · Post Post #51 (isolation #13) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:03 pm

yes, I'm just scatterbrained. It was meant to be 9. And when my dumbass set the deadline I did not realize offhand that it was PACIFIC time and I did not make that connection till...now. So it should really be 6 PDT, 8 CDT, 9 EDT which makes sense that L1 and auction would have similar drafting schedules since we share a boatload of players. I picked Wednesday b/c its Sharon's day off (or used to be at least) However, the auction when is good also shows Tuesday @ the same time is available. So we can do ours Tuesday and KMD can do L1 Wednesday. Crisis averted.

Nero Cain · Post Post #55 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:23 am

I though about making everyone taking the wondelic.

Nero Cain · Post Post #56 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:05 pm

thought that at least might get a chuckle....

If I get L2 access I am going to make the draft date Monday September 7th @ 7 pm CST/8 pm EST. i know not everyone can make it but there are no times when everyone can make it. Wednesday September 2nd, Thursday September 3rd, Tuesday September 8th and Wednesday September 9th all at the same times are all workable too if that would fit ppls schedules better.

Nero Cain · Post Post #63 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:31 am

KMD can do w/e he wants for L1 unless he wants me to do something and i'll just random order things if so. Maybe next year we can do the wonderlic in advance.

Nero Cain · Post Post #68 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:36 pm

the #1 draft pick goes to the guy that did it? Shenanigans?

lol j/p

Nero Cain · Post Post #77 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:41 pm

stop being such a prima donna

Nero Cain · Post Post #81 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:10 am

i sent u a pm

Nero Cain · Post Post #91 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:33 pm

In post 87, PokerFace wrote:And the draft order and time for league 2 are?

I don't even have an invite to L2 yet but looking @ the when is good the time when most people say they can make it...Wednesday, September 9th @ 7 pm CST/8 pm EST.

Nero Cain · Post Post #94 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:20 pm

Should I start thinking about making a temporary L2 just incase Mith doesn't get here?

Nero Cain · Post Post #98 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:04 am

what did you even draft?

Nero Cain · Post Post #104 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:48 am

Draft is tomorrow but yeah

Nero Cain · Post Post #111 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:33 pm

In post 105, PokerFace wrote:We doing any divisions for our 10 person league like before when we had 10 and 5 per division with 6 in the playoffs?

We'll do 2 divisions of 5 yeah but only 4 playoff teams is the norm.

Nero Cain · Post Post #112 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:36 pm

In post 107, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 104, Nero Cain wrote:Draft is tomorrow but yeah
what time??

the draft is set for 8 pm CDT (so 9 EDT) so in 14ish hours

Nero Cain · Post Post #113 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:38 pm

I sent flameaxe a pm btw.

Nero Cain · Post Post #115 (isolation #27) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:46 am

over 50% of the league going to the playoffs just seems kinda wonky to me. I'm also stupid and don't really know how that would work. I guess that means playoffs would be weeks 14, 15 and 16 with the 3 playoff games in week 14...I guess the #1 seed gets week 15 off and 2 and 3 play and the winner of 2 and 3 play 1 in week 16?

A 4 person playoff is just 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3 in week 15, and the 2 winners play in week 16. I'll have to check but I assume a 4 person playoff with 2 divisions is the the 2 winners of each division and the next 2 are based on next best record so you could theoretically have 3 playoff teams from 1 division.

Nero Cain · Post Post #121 (isolation #28) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:13 am

i'll do w/e ppl want so if you guys rather have a 6 person playoff then fine.

Nero Cain · Post Post #127 (isolation #29) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:59 pm

way too many auto drafters tonight

Nero Cain · Post Post #132 (isolation #30) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:08 pm

Get Reckt-

xRECKONERx

Joe's Marvelous Team-

Groose Caboose

Poker's Aces-

PokerFace

Bone's Broken Boners-

T-Bone

Magic Bears-

PookyTheMagicalBear

Always Thuney-

Nero

The Fishie-

BrightEyedFish

Tatum Bellhops-

Kilgamayan

Pabs Blue Ribbon-

pablito

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride-

flameaxe

Nero Cain · Post Post #134 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:01 am

L2 draft is in the books!

Bone's Broken Boners had the best draft with an A grade. He should maybe think about getting a defense though.

Spoiler:

Next up is Always Thuney with an A minus. I was very suprised to get Kelce in the 3rd round.

Spoiler:

Get Reckt came in 3rd with a B.

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Another B for The Fishies.

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And our final B of the night goes to Magic Bears.

Spoiler:

Tatum Bellhops follows up with a B minus.

Spoiler:

A C for Joe's Marvelous Team,

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Mr. Toad's Wild Ride also gets a C. Though he should have gotten a B for bold. His 2nd round pick of Fournette seems like it to me.

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Poker's Aces, who had the first pick of the night, had the second worst draft according to yahoo with a C minus.

Spoiler:

And rounding out the night is Pabs Blue Ribbon with an equally impressive C minus.

Spoiler:

We had a 100% turnout last night so in my books we are all winners.

Nero Cain · Post Post #136 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:47 am

you don't have to but you sorta need to play one durring the season.

Nero Cain · Post Post #138 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:01 am

It

can be

a risk sure, but there are times when the other positions give a dud performance. Mostly in baseball, I'll intentionally not start a pitcher b/c I think they have a bad start. So not starting a defense if you think it's too risky to is a valid strat but those extra pts you could get from a D is nice.

Nero Cain · Post Post #145 (isolation #34) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:48 am

I had them unpin us so no one in mish-mash felt like we were getting special treatment or something...idk.

Nero Cain · Post Post #150 (isolation #35) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:08 am

So umm, I did the schedule last night and I went with the 6 go to the playoffs wich means each team plays each division opponent twice and non-division once. Not that I'm going to change anyting but I just wanted to ask, in a 10 player league that does 4 in the playoffs that means each team plays each division opponent twice and non-division once and then an extra game against one random team. Do you guys feel like one is more fair than the other or are they just about the same?

Nero Cain · Post Post #158 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:30 am

yeah, I should prob replace Watson. I don't feel like you are

THAT

bad off. CMC is only out for like a month and a half, right? And Bell gets back week 5 And Robinson/Swift is prob not the worst fill in. You are also #4 in waivers so I think that is going to guarantee you are going to get one of the top RB wire pick ups.

Nero Cain · Post Post #159 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:44 am

If someone was absolutly loaded @ RB and needed a QB and/oror a TE then I think a trade would make sense but Poker shouldn't be expecting like a stud RB or anything.

Nero Cain · Post Post #162 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:26 am

In post 161, PJ. wrote:There's a *chance* only 1 rb scored over 10 in your waiver pool, probably not more than 2

there were 3

Nero Cain · Post Post #164 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:50 am

FTR, Poker is basically offering Goff and/or Fant since he prob wants to keep Ertz for the name recognition. Someone like Joe could certainly use an upgrade @ QB but I doubt he'd trade Akers or Gordan. Fish could certainly use a TE but I doubt he'd want to part with Mixon in case he starts doing better. Kittle isn't doing really well but Bone has RB woes of his own. Andrews didn't do great this week but I don't think he'd want to buy a new TE.

Like I said, Robinson/Swift/waiver wire pick up and you'll be fine.

Nero Cain · Post Post #165 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:50 am

In post 163, PJ. wrote:Lewis, McKinnon, Henderson?

ja

Nero Cain · Post Post #169 (isolation #41) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:15 am

Another week another blowout loss for Mr. Toad's Wild ride as he was defeated by Always Thuney 130 to 102.48 to inch his way into the top spot in the MS South division.

Toad lost Barkley for the year but should be ok as he has a bevy of backs including Gurly, Fournette, Hunt, and Freeman. Next up Toad faces the 5th ranked Get Reckt and Thuney faces the 6th ranked Pabs Blue Ribbon. Both teams (Get Reckt and Pabs) are coming off of their first victory. Get Reckt defeating Joe's (not so) Marvelous team and Pabs pulling out a close one against the Tatum Bellhops.

In a battle of winless teams, Joe will face off against the Magic Bears and the bellhops face the 3rd ranked fishes. The Fishes defeated the aptly named Bone's Broken Boner as he limps into week 3 with a broken roster. He lost Sutton to an ACL, Mostert to an MCL. It's a bummer that he couldn't pull a hat trick and have someone pull their PCL. Kittle was already dealing with an MCL and Brown also has a broken finger but both are supposed to play this weak. He still has no defense.

In week 3 Bones faces the topped ranked Poker's Aces who are dealing with injury woes of their own. Bell was previously on IR and he lost CMC for a little over a month.

Nero Cain · Post Post #174 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:13 am

All the 2-0 teams have had the least ammount of points scored against them but they also have some of the better point totals.

Nero Cain · Post Post #180 (isolation #43) » Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:18 pm

in week 1 i think I was leading by like 0.2. I was considering sitting Henery in the very unlikely scenario that he fumbled and then gets injured.

Nero Cain · Post Post #187 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:31 am

I like my fish with cold dead eyes

Nero Cain · Post Post #191 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am

maybe?

I could be without Henry this week.

Nero Cain · Post Post #199 (isolation #46) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:52 am

hasn't continuing rolling list always what we've done? or did I do something wrong?

Nero Cain · Post Post #207 (isolation #47) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:15 am

if we do FFAB I'm giving you guys $10 for the season

Nero Cain · Post Post #211 (isolation #48) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:50 am

In post 204, xRECKONERx wrote:it's a cycle where the last pick is always going to stay last pick AND not get their top priority/top pick ever.

this isn't entirely true. If they don't use the WW on Tuesday then they'll move up in the order.

BBM got Jefferson who was one of if not the top add this week. One of the reasons he's doing poorly is b/c he took a HUGE risk by drafting Fournette in the 2nd. He prob could have grabbed him much later

Nero Cain · Post Post #213 (isolation #49) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:02 am

Also his kicker got hurt. Hurst got hut and Barkley got hurt but he ended up getting his replacement anyways so seems kinda moot.

He just didn't have a very good draft and it happens.

Nero Cain · Post Post #214 (isolation #50) » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:09 am

What Reck is saying that the player that's in last place should get his or her top pick. The only thing that I see that might be a slight problem is if you...like you can still have close losses and a good team and then if you're in last place you just get to pad your team with the top WW pick while teams that are affected by injuries and such but might be getting by are getting so much worse.

Nero Cain · Post Post #249 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:55 am

holy Jesus fuck. You are immature as shit. Grow the fuck up, BBM.

Nero Cain · Post Post #252 (isolation #52) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:23 am

I don't care about what he said to me but dumping his roster as some kind of protest is just that...immature.

Nero Cain · Post Post #253 (isolation #53) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:25 am

I think I can edit his roster and give him back all the players he dropped and then lock his team. I think that might be the most fair thing?

Nero Cain · Post Post #257 (isolation #54) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:30 am

I mean, I haven't done anything and I don't plan to until we talk about it but like....the way I feel is like he dumped his roster and players that one wouldn't normally get they can now get and it seems kinda unfair or something?

Nero Cain · Post Post #261 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:35 am

In post 258, BrightEyedFish wrote:Oh that's why they popped up. Should I cancel my waiver claims?

What do you think is the most ethical thing to do, let us vulture his roster or to let me put humpty dumpty back together again?

Nero Cain · Post Post #262 (isolation #56) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:36 am

In post 260, BrightEyedFish wrote:He added all the def teams wtf.

I can fix that. I think.

Nero Cain · Post Post #264 (isolation #57) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:45 am

As much as I want DK Metcalf I do think the correct play is to put his roster back together and just let his team be an npc for the rest of the year but I'm also going to go with the majority.

Nero Cain · Post Post #267 (isolation #58) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:02 am

In post 222, Flameaxe wrote:I like the part where this cunt keeps trying to make the same shit point for 4 straight weeks

I like the part where he represents why this site is complete ass

Guy, I never made it a "point" I made a maybe not so funny joke about you drafting Fournette in the draft recap and maybe I made the same silly joke gain in the week 2 recap but this is the only time that I've come right out and said that you didn't have a great draft. Its not meant to be an insult and I'm not sure why you are taking it as one. I understand why you drafted the players you did but your roster hasn't really panned out and thats just an objective truth. Not sure why you are throwing a temper tantrum about it.

I mean, if the WW was meant to be set on not continual rolling list then that's on me but thats what it was previously set on and what I remember.

In post 200, D3f3nd3r wrote:Yeah you got it right, this is what we've always done (or at least have been doing in recent years)

So maybe I didn't make a mistake?

So I consulted the internet. Most of what I found were sites/articles about who to pick up but I did find

https://www.fantasyjocks.com/blogs/news ... ball-rules

and what I felt was a really funny line

he last place team is catapulted to the top of the pecking order, getting his or her choice of the crop of free agents, regardless of how many moves you made in the previous week/s.
I assume only leagues consisting of members under the age of 14 use this setting
, and only because it was the default and they don’t know how to change it.

and

https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/2015/ ... r-options/

both those sites, my personal feelings and several of you guys have said that FAAB is the most fair. I do like auction b/c everyone mostly has the same chance to get any player both in the draft and off waivers. In hindsight maybe I should have been more proactive and made the change to FAAB or at least proposed the idea of switching it to FAAB. I also think that L1 and L2 should have the same type of waivers so I'll send KMD a pm later and we'll talk about things.

Also its just a game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #269 (isolation #59) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:13 am

he was angry that he wasn't getting his way or something, not really sure.

Nero Cain · Post Post #272 (isolation #60) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:53 am

go for it

Nero Cain · Post Post #276 (isolation #61) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:40 am

yeah Reck I'm not really understanding. The only thing I can think of is when he has injured or byes and he's not there to switch them out then yeah it does give the team he's playing that week an advantage but that's not all that different than an inactive owner. If he has an empty roster then he just gives free wins and then yes his division opponents would have an advantage. Maybe we'll get a replace or if you wanted me to kinda manage his team and try to make it competitive I could. (I promise I wouldn't do anything to benefit my main team) it seems like if we allowed his roster to just get vultured then the players that get his said players would benefit greatly.

Nero Cain · Post Post #279 (isolation #62) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:16 am

I feel like you have it backwards man. If his roster is empty then he's giving out free wins. If his roster is restored then he's just a weak npc.

Nero Cain · Post Post #284 (isolation #63) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:47 am

I asked LLD toreplace in anyways so I can just transfer the team.

Nero Cain · Post Post #285 (isolation #64) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:09 am

I rather get a replace but I understand Recks position a little better though it still feels a bit wrong to let folks cannibalize his roster like that.

Nero Cain · Post Post #289 (isolation #65) » Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:33 pm

In post 286, PokerFace wrote:yay reck is right this time. Its free wins either way for that division.

it's not necessarily a free win each week. His roster could still have a good week and if a team is racked by injuries and or bye weeks he could easily win. What guarantees that he gives out free wins is if we allow him to have an empty roster. I'm bugging people to fill in.

Nero Cain · Post Post #294 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:09 am

no I'm really not. B/c I don't think its 100% fair that we just let him roster dump. Throwing a tantrum b/c your team isn't doing well is immature and lame.

Nero Cain · Post Post #295 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:12 am

and most ppl agree with me so...

Nero Cain · Post Post #297 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:44 am

I didn't do shit to BBM.

Nero Cain · Post Post #298 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:45 am

well, I called him immature but I feel like what he did was immature so...

Nero Cain · Post Post #299 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:47 am

So @ some point this season I will be making a poll about changes we might be implementing

next season

. I would like you guys, either in this thread or via pm/discord to make proposals on what we will vote on.

So far the things we will be voting on are

-making FAAB our waiver and the budget (I propose $100)
-using ppr
-getting rid of kickers
-draft pick trades
-getting rid of the 3rd WR and making it a flex spot

So you propose away and we can discuss things.

Nero Cain · Post Post #306 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:47 am

what does ppr add other than making more players viable? I sorta feel like if we do the flex we'd prob need that ppr b/c a 12 p league with a 6 person bench...RBs might be scarce? Or should we make the bench smaller as well?

Nero Cain · Post Post #307 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:50 am

I like kickers, I understand that they are swingy but so are most everything else. Another thing we could do is earse the distance modifiers and make all fgs just 3 pts.

Nero Cain · Post Post #308 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:04 am

Another idea that I like (which means no one else likes it) is to either keep the 3 wrs and add a WR/TE slot or just have the 2 WRs and a WR/TE slot to kinda mimic the 3/4 WR or 2 TE sets which are pretty common. Or maybe even 2 wr, a wr/te slot, and a dlex so on any given week you could start up to four wrs or 3 tes or 3 rbs

Nero Cain · Post Post #318 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:44 pm

In post 312, Kublai Khan wrote:I'm fine with whatever. As long as we don't do anything auction-style.

but FAAB is an auction type thing

Nero Cain · Post Post #319 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:45 pm

In post 309, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:PPR inflates points so we feel better about our team's failures

thought so

Nero Cain · Post Post #321 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:29 am

thewayitends replaces flameaxe effective immediately.

Nero Cain · Post Post #327 (isolation #77) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:25 am

you're a little late yeah...

Nero Cain · Post Post #331 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:32 am

im of the "if it ain't broken don't fix it" crowd. I feel like FF is fine without PPR and PPR is used to mostly to pad stats and make more players viable. I guess one could argue that it reduces swing a bit since heavily used players will mostly always have a good stat line and they won't get like overshadowed by that 3rd/4th WR that catches a long bomb for a TD and gets 13 points while your 2nd round pick receiver has like a 6/60/0 line.

Nero Cain · Post Post #334 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:04 am

PPR is prob very useful/needed in DEEP leagues. like 12+ We are always going to do a max of 12.

Ultimately I just want to play FF and I rather have a league where I'm maybe a little unhappy than have an empty league or a league full of unhappy folks.

Nero Cain · Post Post #335 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:43 am

yeah I can see that angle

Nero Cain · Post Post #336 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:21 pm

Week 4 has come and gone and all it took was an owner change and Cam Newton to get COVID for the newly named Injured Reserve to notch their first win of the season by beating the Bellhops by 20+ points. Pokers Ace's, the #1 team in the league, beat the fore mentioned fellow MS South member Pabs Blue Ribbon, knocking him down to 1-3 as The Fishes continued their dominance of the south by beating Always Thuney to capture the lead.

Turning now to the MS north Joe's marvelous teams continues to underperform as they lose to Bones Broken Boner's, who have learned how to pick up a defense. In what was the closest game of the week Get Reckt squeak by the Magic Bears.

Nero Cain · Post Post #340 (isolation #82) » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:11 pm

In post 339, PokerFace wrote:League 2 has 1 IR spot. I wouldn't mind having 1 more given the pandemic

I did the max of 10 b/c I had forgotten to do that earlier. KMD can also change his

Nero Cain · Post Post #349 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:23 pm

In post 341, PokerFace wrote:Woah I think 10 is a excessive. No one is gonna need 10 especially since you only start 9. Before this season, 1 has always been fine, but because of the pandemic I think 2 would be all we would need

ehhhh....

I agree that we aren't very likely to need 10 IR slots but we can only change it once so I felt like "just do the max" b/c I mean if a player is out for the season it doesn't affect anything and if they are going to return in X amount of time you still have to edit your roster and take that IR player off of IR. I think next year that KMD and I or whomever commishes will move it to a more reasonable-sounding four or something but I don't think the # of IR slots is going to have much of any impact

Nero Cain · Post Post #356 (isolation #84) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:10 am

thats a nice roster you got there D3

Nero Cain · Post Post #362 (isolation #85) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:18 pm

I think the default for yahoo is first to last and thats what #1 is referring to. We use continual rolling list. so we are #2 and #3 wich says the same thing. #4 is for FAAB.

Nero Cain · Post Post #363 (isolation #86) » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 pm

In post 361, BrightEyedFish wrote:10 IR spots are all good and well but I would like to know how am I supposed to fix Dak Prescott?

use LOTS of duct tape.

Also, pick up a new QB off of waivers.

Nero Cain · Post Post #374 (isolation #87) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:33 pm

If you think I'm making light of Daks injury then you are 100% wrong. I mean, fish asked how do we fix Dak. The obvious answer is just surgery and rest. If you don't see my "use duct tape!" as the obvious joke it was then...

If flameaxe can call me a cunt then I'm well within my rights to call him immature for rage quitting and then trying to cause harm to the league. I know that might be "controversial" since he apparently told Reck that he dropped his roster to be "helpful" but let me explain.

To begin with, dropping his roster just gives out a bunch of free wins and that alone affects the league in a negative way. And giving away a bunch of decent players also does that. The argument is that the two counterbalance but I don't really think that's true. If either New York team or Washington or fuck maybe even Dallas decided to rage quit the NFL and dump their roster in the middle of the season would it be ok? If not why is it ok for BBM to do so? but ok, even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he actually believed that he was helping by doling out free wins and letting his roster be cannibalized. The fact that he picked up a bunch of defenses shows that that was not his true intent. What rostering a ton of defenses does is prevent teams from streaming. Also, it's just causing unnecessary drama. He is 100% in the wrong here and I'm not going to apologize for my harsh criticism of his actions. That said, I am not without empathy and I fully understand that one can do dumb things in the heat of the moment and maybe that's all it was. I mean maybe he's a cool guy and that's why you guys like him and are defending him but my first impression of him is pretty negative.

In post 367, PokerFace wrote:Your comment on the way's new use of the team to get a win after flame left was an indirect jab at flameaxe after he was already gone

Wasn't my intention but ok I can see that. It was more matter of factly they got a new owner that did change the QB and got a win.

In post 367, PokerFace wrote:Liking that priority system doesn't make you a 14 year old or immature.

those were not my words and it's a literal quote from someone else's website that I found humorous. If you want to make the argument that thats what I believe b/c I found it funny then ok. It's not but ok.

Nero Cain · Post Post #375 (isolation #88) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:47 pm

In post 372, PokerFace wrote:Well Bell just became the most wasted fantasy draft pick for this year.

unless he goes to a good team and becomes their Bell cow and he's no kinda washed up.

Nero Cain · Post Post #377 (isolation #89) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:13 pm

agree

Nero Cain · Post Post #380 (isolation #90) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:07 pm

atl game could get cancelled

Nero Cain · Post Post #384 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:06 am

Don't you worry t-bone you still have a 5% chance to win

Nero Cain · Post Post #388 (isolation #92) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:15 pm

we met again, scaly one

Nero Cain · Post Post #399 (isolation #93) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:02 pm

he's questionable but agree that a Hopkins/Fuller/Allen is prob the best choice.

Nero Cain · Post Post #402 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 pm

In post 389, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 388, Nero Cain wrote:we met again, scaly one
here's to hoping Mixon brings like he did last time we met

HE COULD!

Nero Cain · Post Post #407 (isolation #95) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:13 pm

just wanted to let ppl know (though I think most of you do) we do rarely chat on the discord sports channel so stop by and we can chat and things.

Nero Cain · Post Post #409 (isolation #96) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:23 pm

poor fish and sharon

Nero Cain · Post Post #413 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:55 pm

this seems overly complicated. We'll prob just use FAAB if that wins.

Nero Cain · Post Post #417 (isolation #98) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:21 am

i mean, you could have had Benard but no.

Nero Cain · Post Post #418 (isolation #99) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:56 am

my L2 game is going to be close. hopefully, Dallas' 3rd string QB plays like a 3rd string QB and throws a few picks.

Nero Cain · Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:23 am

i thought ur picks were good

Nero Cain · Post Post #421 (isolation #101) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:44 pm

In post 420, Nero Cain wrote:i thought ur picks were good

i take this back. God fucking damn your picks.

Nero Cain · Post Post #423 (isolation #102) » Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:33 pm

I could actually pull this off!

Nero Cain · Post Post #427 (isolation #103) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:16 pm

Nero Cain · Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:37 am

I'd buy Thielen though. I mean not for that super lopsided trade but Poker can sell him to me.

Nero Cain · Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:50 am

In post 443, PJ. wrote:Is everyone from PA this dumb?

HAHAHAHA!

Nero Cain · Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:26 pm

I prob should have sat Henry huh?

Nero Cain · Post Post #459 (isolation #107) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:58 pm

I think the goal is to have 12/12 leagues but clearly, this didn't happen this year. I think I like the simplicity of 4 in the playoffs and the extra week could change the fates of some times but you could certainly argue that 6 in the playoffs is maybe a little fairer but like I said with the 4 go to the playoffs you get that extra week so it's kinda like the wild card without the top 2 teams getting a bye.

I kind of agree with you that 6/10 going to the playoffs is eh but I don't feel like it's all that different than a 4 team playoff with 2 teams getting eliminated in weeks 14 non-playoff games.

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here.

Nero Cain · Post Post #464 (isolation #108) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:13 pm

poor KMD

Nero Cain · Post Post #467 (isolation #109) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 pm

the whole point of snake is so it's relatively fair. I mean, if we really wanted "fair" we'd just go full auction but some wouldn't want that and thats fine.

Nero Cain · Post Post #468 (isolation #110) » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:54 pm

In post 459, Nero Cain wrote:I kind of agree with you that 6/10 going to the playoffs is eh but I don't feel like it's all that different than a 4 team playoff with 2 teams getting eliminated in weeks 14 non-playoff games.

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here
.

Nero Cain · Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:52 am

ima make u fold

Nero Cain · Post Post #482 (isolation #112) » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:39 pm

yeah, your roster is scary but they've had down weeks.

Nero Cain · Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:20 pm

I play the Jets in week 15 and 16 (assuming I get there)

Nero Cain · Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:21 pm

prob starting CLE this week. Gonna beat Poker with his own team

Nero Cain · Post Post #499 (isolation #115) » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:58 pm

I think Jones was a good start!

Nero Cain · Post Post #501 (isolation #116) » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:03 pm

Like, maybe I should have just started Cooper anyway but I was worried about him playing a tough pass D and he hasn't exactly been on fire this season. I am PROB sitting Henry this week in favor of Jones b/c Jones is used more in the pass game and I could easily envision a scenario where da bears just get shut out and green bay just runs it until time expires.

Nero Cain · Post Post #503 (isolation #117) » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 pm

I think your decision to stat Jones was fine. I was actually going to pick him up but you got him. He coulda had a bigger day b/c he did get 12 targets.

Nero Cain · Post Post #505 (isolation #118) » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:11 pm

like I said your decision was fine but you also coulda like just waited and if was going to be out Sunday or be one of those pesky game time decisions then you could just dropped someone and WW it.

Nero Cain · Post Post #509 (isolation #119) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:15 pm

its a good thing that I still won while sitting Henry

Nero Cain · Post Post #512 (isolation #120) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:21 pm

whats in it for me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #513 (isolation #121) » Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:02 pm

L2 playoff picture is pretty intense. Myself and Poker are guaranteed slots while Aronis and Pabs are eliminated. that leaves the last 6 slots all fighting for the last 4 playoff slots. If projections hold all off

Rek
T-bone
Caboose
BEF
kila

will be 6-6 while Pooky will be 5-7

The winner of Rekt-Fishes will go to the playoffs. If I and Poker get wins next week and IR gets a win and Bear gets a win then there will be 5 teams @ 6-7 and then it's up to the tie breaker.

Nero Cain · Post Post #516 (isolation #122) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:27 am

lol, IR is the way it ends. brain fart on my part.

Nero Cain · Post Post #517 (isolation #123) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:34 am

eh, teams possibly making the playoffs @ 6-7 doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

Nero Cain · Post Post #521 (isolation #124) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:41 pm

i mean, we don't do anything. yahoo is handling it. I haven't looked yet to see what they are doing yet. I'd assume it just counts as a week 12 game though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #522 (isolation #125) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:45 pm

The Ravens/Steelers game has been moved to Wednesday, December 2 (remaining in Week 12). If played, stats will be applied to Week 12 matchups. However, the game may not count towards Week 12 if it is canceled or postponed to another date.

So basically it's still a week 12 game but if it's canceled again then it won't count for week 12.

Nero Cain · Post Post #533 (isolation #126) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:49 pm

my goal this week is to knock Joe out of playoff contention.

Nero Cain · Post Post #535 (isolation #127) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:59 pm

RE tie breaker: I am given a choice between "higher seed wins" and "best regular season record vs opponent" but the fist seems like a much more fair option. The later is prob more "nfl like" thoughWe should maybe put it to a vote unless everyone already likes "higher seed wins"

Nero Cain · Post Post #537 (isolation #128) » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:48 pm

oh your right, in that case "best regular season record vs opponent" is prob the right one then, yes?

Nero Cain · Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:18 am

I mean, I'm just lulzly trash talking him and it's not meant to be vindictive. I think Joe is guaranteed a playoff spot b/c even if I, Rob, Bone, and Bears win he'd still get that 4th spot b/c he'd have more points than Reckt/Fish and Bears.

I think the right thing to do is to just play your game and try to beat Rob even though a win/loss won't affect you.

Nero Cain · Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:25 am

I'm not too sure that any of the games this week will change the playoff bracket anyways

Nero Cain · Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:36 am

reckt is clinched I think, even if he loses and Bears wins Rekt still has a better division record and I think things go, Division record>>>pts for

Nero Cain · Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:40 am

if you had a 1-1 record against that person then its prob decided by who scored the most points in the 2 games. So yeah, "higher seed wins" is prob better but "best regular season record vs opponent" might be a better decided in a league that players everyone an odd # of times.

Nero Cain · Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:41 am

or idk, both have its pros and cons

Nero Cain · Post Post #558 (isolation #134) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:36 pm

i wamted to pick up A-Rob but I forgot to set my thingy that week.

Nero Cain · Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:13 am

still p sure you are going to the playoffs though. I think the way yahoo has it designed is that the top 3 from each division make it and since all the division games are done nothing will change.

Nero Cain · Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:41 am

or I guess not and thats just how things worked out b/c all the playoff teams are 6-6 minus T-bone b/c he has the lowest score.

Nero Cain · Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:45 am

it prob is just top 6 and the way it worked out is top 3 in each division. If some ppl don't win tomorrow and Bears win he could end up leapfrogging since he's 4th in scoring

Nero Cain · Post Post #568 (isolation #138) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:04 am

current yahoo projections

have

joe 7-6
reck-7-6
fish 6-7
bellhops 6-7
bone 6-7
bears 5-8

but Bears is also starting an inactive Will Fuller so if he changed that the projections would have him beating Pabs this week. If he did beat Pab and Fish and Bellhop and Bone all lose then he's gonna be in the playoffs.

The Bellhops really really need to win this week and his game with Poker is close AF. Yahoo has projections at 104.82-104.59

Nero Cain · Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:07 pm

good thing I didn't need to win this week. I think the only change in playoffs will be that Bone replaces Fish.

Nero Cain · Post Post #577 (isolation #140) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:48 pm

In post 576, PokerFace wrote:More honorable not to throw anyway

^

Nero Cain · Post Post #578 (isolation #141) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:20 pm

my Monday and Tuesday games are both very tough and I could see both Dallas and football team getting blown out. That might mean a positive game script for WRs but if that could also means that the pass game isn't working b/c they are getting blown out! :/ Hopefully Mahomes keeps passing it to Kelce and not Hill and the Broncos score a few more times. This game is about bragging rights.

#1seed

Nero Cain · Post Post #585 (isolation #142) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:45 pm

If I beat Joe and Poker beats Rob that means Bone and Reck (since they are both winning) will be 3rd and 4th seeds and Rob and Joe will be 5th and 6th seeds @ 6-7.

Nero Cain · Post Post #587 (isolation #143) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:50 pm

maybe I should tank so Joe will still be #3 and I'll face the winner of Rob vs. Bone/Reck instead of the winner of Rob/Joe.

joking....mostly

Nero Cain · Post Post #589 (isolation #144) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:55 pm

lol Hill just CANNOT score.

Nero Cain · Post Post #591 (isolation #145) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:05 pm

I think you are wrong.

Nero
Poker
Reck
Bone
Joe
Rob

^
should be the standings after this week if we, bone and Reck win.

Reck and Bone would face each other and Joe and Rob would face each other.

You'd get the winner of Reck/Bone and I'd get the winner of Joe/Rob. Assuming Reck and Joe win I'd go on to face Joe and you'd face Reck.

IF

I lost this week then

Nero
Poker
Joe
Reck
Bone
Rob

Joe would face Reck and Bone would face Rob and you'd get the winner of Joe/Reck and I'd get the winner of Bone/Rob.

Nero Cain · Post Post #592 (isolation #146) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:09 pm

I prob face one of Joe/Rob in week 15 regardless but it's just a little scary facing Joe in case Cook/Hill go ham.

Nero Cain · Post Post #594 (isolation #147) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:20 pm

You can turn on reseeding and I did b/c isn't that what we are supposed to do? I think you are right afterall.

Reck would play Rob

and Joe would play Bone.

You'd get the winner of Joe/Bone and I get the winner of Reck/Rob

ok...idk what i was thinking/doing earlier lol

Nero Cain · Post Post #595 (isolation #148) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:23 pm

or forget I said anything. FFS.

Nero Cain · Post Post #597 (isolation #149) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:34 pm

Which is more fair? to have to reseed or not?

Nero Cain · Post Post #599 (isolation #150) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:47 pm

i turned on reseeding last night. It just sounds like it would be the most fair thing and thats why I did it. But maybe it's more just like a personal choice and one isn't more fair than the other. idk.

Nero Cain · Post Post #600 (isolation #151) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:49 pm

we have until the playoffs starts to turn on/off reseeding. So maybe the 6 of us in the playoffs decide which we want to us and I'll do w/e

Nero Cain · Post Post #603 (isolation #152) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:30 pm

Both teams are a little scary but Joe's prob has more upside. It might benefit me more to face Rob as opposed to Joe but I don't care to do whats self serving and only care about what's fair or benefits the league.

Nero Cain · Post Post #615 (isolation #153) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:29 pm

you did nothing wrong

Nero Cain · Post Post #618 (isolation #154) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 616, PokerFace wrote:I am just disappointed in you nero and hope whoever plays you in the playoffs defeats you so that you get 4th overall and don't make it to league 1 next year

:/

I felt like giving Joe the 3rd seed instead of the 5th might help me in the playoffs more. I mean it WOULD be poetic justice if I were eliminated in week 15 but let's hope that does not come to pass.

you are still #6 Rob b/c you have more points than Fish

Nero Cain · Post Post #626 (isolation #155) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:25 pm

In post 622, xRECKONERx wrote:why the hell would we reseed exactly

well, why would we not reseed?

Nero Cain · Post Post #631 (isolation #156) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:18 pm

how so?

Nero Cain · Post Post #645 (isolation #157) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:55 pm

sounds like L1 is just competitive unless you are saying that everything is so close b/c no teams are all that good.

Nero Cain · Post Post #647 (isolation #158) » Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:01 pm

??????

Nero Cain · Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:42 pm

could be. In hindsight maybe it was a dick move but eh...

Nero Cain · Post Post #651 (isolation #160) » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:32 pm

and so it begins.

but I don't think anyone has any rams or pats players playing.

Bone has Kupp

Nero Cain · Post Post #664 (isolation #161) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:08 am

Someone needs to let the Packers know that there are other receivers on the team besides Adams.

Nero Cain · Post Post #668 (isolation #162) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:04 pm

welp. looks like Adams let u down. sorry man.

Nero Cain · Post Post #674 (isolation #163) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:33 pm

gotta go through me first

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:04 am

I'm rooting for Poker over Joe

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:06 am

In post 680, PokerFace wrote:I am pro Reckoner now.

booooooooo!

Nero Cain · Post Post #686 (isolation #166) » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:14 am

but I deserve to win!

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:26 pm

Akers was a solid AF pick up. Why didn't I think of that, Jesus.

Nero Cain · Post Post #705 (isolation #168) » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:03 pm

good job, Poker

Nero Cain · Post Post #706 (isolation #169) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:39 am

my game with reck is close. I mean, projection have me winning by 20 but rn we are only separated by 3 pts. Hopefully not but it seems plently possible that 1 of his players could go off. If I do win I don't really like my chances against Poker but I'll be back in L1 and that was my goal this year.

Nero Cain · Post Post #712 (isolation #170) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:30 pm

Johnson needs like 40 tomorrow night for Reck to win so I've most likely clinched. Time to face Poker in the ScumBowl

Nero Cain · Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:50 pm

i need the Bengals to score loads so I can beat Joey in auction

Nero Cain · Post Post #719 (isolation #172) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:47 am

I mostly agree since the South had 3 teams with <1,200 pts but I will argue that Rob was 4th in scoring and it makes it seem like North and South were just as top heavy as each other but the North wins out thanks to Reck and Bears

Nero Cain · Post Post #720 (isolation #173) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:51 am

I also "won" all my games against the North if we don't count me throwing my game against Joe.

Nero Cain · Post Post #724 (isolation #174) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:28 am

I'm happy that Poker is finally going up to L1

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:52 am

i am prob starting Hurts again so battle of the rookies?

Nero Cain · Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 am

also, I'm starting the cle defense so I get to beat u with ur own guys

Nero Cain · Post Post #734 (isolation #178) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:48 am

I feel like since L2 was only ten that only the top 3 should move up meaning the bottom 3 in L1 move down.

Nero Cain · Post Post #745 (isolation #179) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:32 pm

y is it even important that relegation /promotion was set in stone @ the start of the season? It has 0 impact on anything that happens.

Nero Cain · Post Post #746 (isolation #180) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:35 pm

my thinking is that a 10p league is easier than a 12p league and since L2 was easier this year it shouldn't get the 4 it normally does.

Nero Cain · Post Post #748 (isolation #181) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:40 pm

I mean, that's my feeling and opinions on it and so far Joe and D3 agree with me.

Nero Cain · Post Post #753 (isolation #182) » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:05 pm

If L2 ever got to be like an 8 player league are we really going to be like "yeah, let's promote half the league!" if we wanna say that this year we'll just stick with the 4 up/4 down then fine but I'm just trying to look @ it from a fairness perspective and I still think that a 12p league is "harder" than a 10p. Moving forward I think something like @ number based relegation /promotion system makes sense so like

if l2 is 8=then 2 move up
if l2 is 10=then 3 move up
if l2 is 12=then 4 move up

Nero Cain · Post Post #759 (isolation #183) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:56 am

In post 758, PokerFace wrote:
Back when we had a league 3 the top 1 player of L3 went to L1 and the top 3 of L2 went to L1.
I thought if Nero got 4th he would stay behind but seems that was not the case. If it was said we move 4 at start of the season let's keep it that way.

exactly. It had been just the 3 from L2. I don't think we ever said anything about the top 4 moving up.

Nero Cain · Post Post #760 (isolation #184) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:20 am

Why are the old scum league threads locked?

anyways

In 2019 when leagues were 12/12 we promoted 4 from L2

viewtopic.php?p=11192997#p11192997

In 2018 when L1 was 12 and L2 was 10 (and L3 was 10) we only promoted 3 from L2 and 0 from L3

viewtopic.php?p=10379979#p10379979

Nero Cain · Post Post #761 (isolation #185) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:27 am

So precedent has only the top 3 moving up but I just wanna be fair and want everyone to have fun so if b/c I didn't lay it out @ the very beginning of the season Reck should move up then eh...assuming reck even loses next week.

Nero Cain · Post Post #762 (isolation #186) » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:29 am

In post 756, D3f3nd3r wrote:I mean it probably won't matter to begin with because we lose enough people year-to-year

and this very well be a thing

Nero Cain · Post Post #772 (isolation #187) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:15 pm

hopefully, 36 is enough to hold off Diggs and a kicker.

Nero Cain · Post Post #773 (isolation #188) » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:16 pm

also good job, Reck

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:25 am

no one ever said 4 will move up so it's not changing anything. I think it has to be 3 like we did in 2018. So me, you and Reck move up with Joe getting priority in case someone flakes but hopefully everyone comes back.

Nero Cain · Post Post #778 (isolation #190) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:31 am

I mean, traditionally it has always been 3 from L2 and 1 from L3. Citing recent examples isn't even a loophole....like the last time L2 was 10 players Mith's plan was to promote 3.

The only thing I want is to play and I don't really care who moves up or down and I think it's ridiculous you think I have some ulterior motive when I don't. I mean, someone has to make a decision though. I'm just saying that I think 3 is a fair number and it follows Miths previous thoughts when L2 was 10. We moved up 4 when both L1 and L2 were L2.

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:08 am

In post 779, PJ. wrote:If you don't care, why are you so adamant in how many move up and down? especially when everyone was like..just leave it.

I don't think I am? and its been 3 from L2 forever including 2018 when L2 was 10 just like this year. So fmpov you are the one thats trying to change it.

Why do

YOU

want Aronis out of L1 so bad?

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:48 am

panzer your reading is selective and bad.

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:59 am

#1 im not changing shit. we never discussed promotion.
#2 promoting 3 when L2 was a 10 player league has been done the last time L2 was 10 player
#3 ppl were asking for IR slots

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:59 am

if u want 4 to go up so bad just leave L1 and then there would be no question.

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:36 pm

i've never done anything to harm the league. In 2018 only 3 moved down. I'm saying that we shouldn't change from that.

Nero Cain · Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Mith changed things b/c he understood that there's a difference between a 10p and a 12p.

but I've also said

In post 753, Nero Cain wrote:if we wanna say that this year we'll just stick with the 4 up/4 down then fine

which means that you are lying about me being so adamant about it being specifically 3 although I think 3 seems fair and its what we did b4 when L2 was 10.

Nero Cain · Post Post #793 (isolation #197) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:00 pm

L2 was

NOT

10 players in 2019. Was L2 10 players in 2017? I'm citing 2018 b/c L2

WAS

10 players.

Also lol if you think adding IR slots during a fucking pandemic has much impact at all. We could only change it

ONCE

also L1 did so as well but you are being biased so meh

Nero Cain · Post Post #795 (isolation #198) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:04 pm

if anyone is being manipulative it's you, You keep claiming that it's about me trying to keep Aronis in L1 when I just think 3 is fairer and it's

WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE BEFORE!

Nero Cain · Post Post #797 (isolation #199) » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:17 pm

b/c im using the year when L2 was 10 and not 12. Are you just trolling and trying to get attention like you normally do?