Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[midwaybear]

Well you are talking like he claimed relatively late, but didn’t beeboy say he claimed immediately in their PT? That is odd.

[Clover Ebi]

How is it odd to claim post 1 in your pt that people are assuming is werewolf? Not claiming post 1 would've been a lot stranger than if he didn't.

[Clover Ebi]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

[Dunnstral]

B) Because without it we would've lynched Dunnstral much sooner.

How is it odd to claim post 1 in your pt that people are assuming is werewolf? Not claiming post 1 would've been a lot stranger than if he didn't.

These are conflicting statements

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

Really? Scum me gets a fake claim of Detective in this game?

[Dunnstral]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever.

Also what a lame argument

I simultaneously claimed to live longer but claimed Detective because I wasn't planning on living forever

[Clover Ebi]

1: Explain how it's a conflicting statement for me.
2: Why are you assuming scum got fake claims? You could've just done that yourself
3: Why you made the claim and why you kept the claim are 2 different things. Although you should answer the full case and not cherry pick things you think you can defend

[midwaybear]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

well he fakeclaimed immediately to beeboy who was his PT buddy, so it's the early timing of the claim that is throwing me off here.

[Dunnstral]

You could ask why does scum claim detective but as I said, Dunnstral wasn't probably going to try and live forever. Combine that with the fact if he's scum I bet it was a fake claim then you have your answer

well he fakeclaimed immediately to beeboy who was his PT buddy, so it's the early timing of the claim that is throwing me off here.

Well, it wasn't a fake claim...

[Dunnstral]

1: Explain how it's a conflicting statement for me.
2: Why are you assuming scum got fake claims? You could've just done that yourself
3: Why you made the claim and why you kept the claim are 2 different things. Although you should answer the full case and not cherry pick things you think you can defend

1) Because I claimed to avoid being eliminated, but it was also my first post in the game because I wasn't planning on living (why would I be playing in a way that makes me not live if I'm scum?)
2) You said it not me
3) Not sure what that means

[Clover Ebi]

Instead of answering my whole case Dunnstral is just trying to attack what he considers to be the weakest point of my argument. I'm not gonna go into that trap. I know I'm not that smart but, come on haha.

[Dunnstral]

I'm responding to your bullet point list

[Dunnstral]

Also I responded to everything you posted anyway lol

[Raven Branwen]

Why do you think Dunn chose to fake claim a power role?

So, he had someone to fake guilty in Elo, in this case bee.

[Raven Branwen]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now.

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

Sorry not buying, this isn’t a townie thought. Why wouldn’t you think a Clover guilty wins us the game?

[Raven Branwen]

Raven & Midway

Are you guys going to vote clover tomorrow or what

Not if you hve misrepresented your role in any way and I think it’s rich that you seriously think I wouldn’t be the logical NK here.

[Dunnstral]

I didn't misrepresent my role though

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now. :oops:

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

Sorry not buying, this isn’t a townie thought. Why wouldn’t you think a Clover guilty wins us the game?

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

[midwaybear]

Why do you think Dunn chose to fake claim a power role?

So, he had someone to fake guilty in Elo, in this case bee.

ok, so he planned that out from the very beginning?

[Raven Branwen]

On a 1-10 scale how predicatable was it Dunn would cop Clover over Raven?

Why would he cop me over his #1 sr? He has never incorrectly read me since our first game. No way in hell, dies he think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell I could ever be scum here. I seriously can’t believe I fell for that even for a second.

[Raven Branwen]

How is it odd to claim post 1 in your pt that people are assuming is werewolf? Not claiming post 1 would've been a lot stranger than if he didn't.

Exactly, it would have been extremely suspicious had he waited to claim. On D2, my reaction to the Lillith flip proved I was bleeding obvtown yet Dunn inexplicably left me off of his townlist. I was very pinged by that. Now it all makes sense. He obvtowned Skitter who just happens to be conveniently dead but left me off it, so he do do this bs invest on me.

The fact that Clover hard trs both me and bee is town indicative. And if game doesn’t end today, I’m going to be extremely shocked if I’m not the NK.

[Raven Branwen]

It's not my only take but it's the one I wanted to start with.

Spoiler:

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

None of those are Hey heys but I'll read up.

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

Hi!!!! you remind me of some pokemon games!

The Radja ones or something else o:

My hey heys have been satisfied.

By nature Dunnstral is a very reserved scum. I have only seen him play scum once since my return where he matched that playstyle I expected. So I want to say he is town even if his skitter push is a bit odd

Beeboy's first five posts are nothing. And I consider them a deliberate distraction because he actually demands they get attention and responses. After the thread has slowed down to just say hi and talk about fluff with him then he jumps in with a weak defense of Dunnstral.

Like he doesn't say that this game is different from scum Dunnstral he's seen. He says that "by nature" Dunnstral scum doesn't play like this. Implying he's almost incapable of it, and it's based on only one game. It feels much stronger than evidence supports.

Interesting, maybe this is this game’s equivalent of the Gamma/Mastina/DDL post I quoted from Jingle’s game. When I ISO’d Tux, I thought I read some light associatives between him and Dunn but decided not to prceed with that since I was obviously wrong on Dru.

[midwaybear]

Tuxedo's push on beeboy does not clear nor convict him.

[Raven Branwen]

UNVOTE:

@Dunn, you say you were worried about scum!me basically wiping the floor with bee as your reason for checking me but why not get a result on Clover?

God, I’m starting to think I was played brilliantly by scum!Dunn now.

Because Clover always gets eliminated over beeboy in my mind

If Clover is scum and you had a guilty on him, we freaking win the game, wtf kind of argument is this even?

But if he's not scum, and I check him we probably lose

That's why I checked you

Sorry not buying, this isn’t a townie thought. Why wouldn’t you think a Clover guilty wins us the game?

It does, but checking you should win the game as well if Clover is mafia

If Clove is mafia, what makes you think the game doesn’t end?

[Raven Branwen]

Tuxedo's push on beeboy does not clear nor convict him.

You’re missing the point. he’s slightly distancing Dunn here. How is that not obvious?