Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[beeboy]

Dunn just vote Dru again pls. >_>
I really just don't think Skitter/Raven is this kill-less scum faction right now.

[beeboy]

I think Lillith was killed because of her theory on one of Nahdia/me being scum right? Lillith’s theory was that one of us was scum pocketing the other or it could also possibly be that scum saw her as their biggest threat? I guess it’s possible scum was informed though but wouldn’t they have killed Kanna first in that case? Does scum kill an even night watcher before an AC? Seems unlikely, if they knew?

No.
Do I kill an investigator if I was scum?
Yes.

Like people are just clear left and right.
And I just see the Dru world very clearly.

[beeboy]

i can't vote dru here, sorry. she isn't scum

why?

[beeboy]

Then vote Dru and lynch me next.
Like that's all I've wanted this literal entire day phase.

[beeboy]

Then just vote me and save me the trouble of watching us lose slowly.
Idk, their isn't much else I can do.

Want me to just sit here as we take random pot shots at midway and Dunn?
Because I really just don't want to participate in that.

[beeboy]

If my setup spec is wrong, it's just completely wrong and scum is just midway.
But we have had chain guilties so I am not exactly sure what is expected out of midway posts.

He also just isn't ending an alleged town dru who doubles as a PR?

pedit: you hold the hammer so go ahead please.

[beeboy]

I promise if I am wrong on this, I'll just stop trying and let you guys carry me.

If it's just Midway and I truly just can't read the guy then I am sorry.
Tbh Midway is my new scum theory.

But like I don't think I can move forward with Dru being alive

[beeboy]

I promise if I am wrong on this, I'll just stop trying and let you guys carry me.

If it's just Midway and I truly just can't read the guy then I am sorry.
Tbh Midway is my new scum theory.

But like I don't think I can move forward with Dru being alive

Because so much just points against them.
My mind is forever going to be unable to think straight as my top scumspect just sits around.

[beeboy]

No? Ignore Clover time? Okay I'll just go back to watching the game carry on

I mean it's like I said.
You hold the hammer, so please just say you'll do it.

I don't think I can play this game straight with Dru alive. I'll never be able to readjust without knowing for sure.
I'll forever have hazy reads as a result.

If scum can't kill we have 1 million mislynches.
If scum can Dunnstral has to bullshit results to us.

You aren't wrong we need to just use the mislynches we earned ourselves.
But it's not like you don't control the hammer.

[beeboy]

dru's not even being survivalistic or anything ...

It's not like Dru is telling us who is scum or giving us final reads either?
This isn't an overly townie reaction.

[beeboy]

Stop looking at who we think is scum just a moment and look at who we think is

town

. If it's impossible to pin down scum together we can look at things another angle together. Let's find the town and carry on that way.

We can agree on Skitter MT Raven for now right? If we can add 1 or 2 more it doesn't matter how unlikely the other 3 are.

We really only need 3, either they can't kill or we have fake dunnstral results on the other guys he has to target someone tonight and someone else the following day.

Idk we have the tools to win but we just don't want to win.
I don't want to let dru live because too many people are resolved on keeping her alive and she is my top suspect.

[beeboy]

dru's not even being survivalistic or anything ...

It's not like Dru is telling us who is scum or giving us final reads either?
This isn't an overly townie reaction.

i mean i feel like she has a p solid poe that's similar to my own

Then lynch me and realize it isn't a good POE.

[beeboy]

Bruh what’s my role then? Like if I am a plague giver, nothing has really happened out of the ordinary except for the no-kill.

What are your reads, why don't you want to vote Dru.
And if you don't want to vote Dru why aren't you giving alternatives?

[beeboy]

We can agree on Skitter MT Raven for now right? If we can add 1 or 2 more it doesn't matter how unlikely the other 3 are.

yeah so i'd add dru to my core and then pair down amongst you four

I don't think the rest of the game can agree on Dru though and that's what we need to work on. I would say add beeboy. I don't think his tone and his interactions are ever coming from scum. It just, feels too odd.

Doesn't work, I am only ever keeping a global town read if Dru flips scum.
Which results in town winning anyway.

[beeboy]

Nah if Dru is town I am giving up and I am literally all the annoying noise.

[beeboy]

We aren't doing Midway.
We just aren't.

You guys aren't lynching around Dru until I just run out of energy to make this push.

[beeboy]

Can we just lynch Drusilla.
I don't want to keep stalling.

We literally don't have a better lynch.

[beeboy]

<3

[beeboy]

I am not voting Dru so now what.

[beeboy]

VOTE: dru

fk it

[beeboy]

well actually, no, i thought you were on already and hammering after she thought she selfed is kinda gross because what scum does that anyways ...

Then kill me.
I don't like winning because me voting the mod in an off post misrepresented the game state.

[beeboy]

I literally know full well me redeclaring that vote gets me killed.
And also mislynches Dru.


But winning because I misrepresented the game state makes me feel even worse.

[beeboy]

Sorry guys for throwing I guess.
I was really the only one who wanted this day start.

Sorry Dru in particular.
Hopefully we can still win.

[beeboy]

Idk what to do now

[beeboy]

Midway was kinda dancing around giving reads this EoD.
I didn't like that.
I'd kill him for it.
Or it's just Dunnstral since this setup needs balance.

/shrug though

Does anyone have any check ideas?

[beeboy]

Idk what to do now

we can awkwardly talk in our factional pt during the 48 hour night phase if you'd like

Ye ye of course.

[beeboy]

Midway has some goat posts right now idk.

[beeboy]

what's scummy about me not giving reads?

^^^ winning attitude right here

[beeboy]

I am going to bed.
Good night guys, don't let the mafia bite o/

Sorry again o/

[beeboy]

good morning?

[beeboy]

Me, Dru, Dunn, MT, Raven.

None of us had other votes.
Hectic prolly just takes the modding philosophy of "if I don't have time to do the flip might as well leave the thread open"

[beeboy]

I'll double check for you.

[beeboy]

Ye still a hammer.

[beeboy]

Hey Dunn you got a result :^)

[beeboy]

Why did scum just stop killing for a night?
I guess my theory about them no killing because they could being true?

[beeboy]

Let's win this game today so Dru isn't too sad I literally robbed her.

[beeboy]

So our result is on midway.

Guilty -> Midway
Inno -> No Lynch
Hehe my action no work -> Dunnstral

Then we fast night obviously

[beeboy]

Long story short is I think midway plays better then this as both alignments.
Legit both his wolf game and his town game is a lot more transparent then this. The guilties probably knocked the steam out of him.
Which feels like exactly who you want to target with an investigative.

[beeboy]

Dunnstral surviving is basically a scum play.
But we might as well no lynch once in the off chance we are seeing a gambit.

[beeboy]

scum claim*

[beeboy]

VOTE: nolynch

[beeboy]

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to pressure someone.

VOTE: no pressure someone

[beeboy]

So our result is on midway.

Guilty -> Midway
Inno -> No Lynch
Hehe my action no work -> Dunnstral

Then we fast night obviously

Stick to the plan

[beeboy]

Dunnstral surviving is basically a scum play.
But we might as well no lynch once in the off chance we are seeing a gambit.

It's not me

Midway didn't kill, according to my result

In fairness you didn't get roleblocked.
So like we just no lynch and clear another person lol

[beeboy]

VOTE: Hectic

I swear this going to work ok.

[beeboy]

Dunnstral has to clear one of me or Clover though.
So like it's pretty much a forced 1v1 tomorrow.

Or scum shoot Dunnstral in which case it's still a forced 1v1 with me and Clover.
Which would be very sad because I didn't want to get to this point. =(

[beeboy]

i don't think beeboy is a VT

I wanted to put on the table dunn was a PR without literally outing him.
I am a VT.

[beeboy]

I was going to claim Dunnstrals role if I learned this game had another super high power PR.

[beeboy]

I can't see Dunn getting killed forcing a Clover v. beeboy 1v1, doesn't seem right. But yeah may as well get another result just in case

I mean it forces the Dunnstral 1v1 with whoever is scum.
So basically even if it isn't Dunnstral we get to see who the last scum is for the following day.

[beeboy]

Because Dunnstral has to claim another Innocent?
So either Dunnstral is town and all his results are true or Dunnstral is scum in which case he forces a 1v1 with whoever his fake results point to.

Lynching now doesn't allow us to lynch both Dunnstral and whoever we get POE locked into calling scum.
We literally just lose information No Lynching.

[beeboy]

If Dunnstral is scum, we can trust his innocent results since it gets us closer to a 1v1.
If Dunnstral is town we can trust his innocent results since he is town.

We literally should always no lynch here.

[beeboy]

I'd rather have a forced 1v1 against Dunnstral with just me.
Or just Clover vs Dunnstral.

Then lynch now and have it be Me v Dunn v Clover.
Feels like objectively the bad way to approach this.

[beeboy]

Because Dunnstral has to claim another Innocent?
So either Dunnstral is town and all his results are true or Dunnstral is scum in which case he forces a 1v1 with whoever his fake results point to.

Lynching now doesn't allow us to lynch both Dunnstral and whoever we get POE locked into calling scum.
We literally just lose information No Lynching.

What part of either me or MT is probably dying tonight isn’t registering with people? I’m not fucking rushing any vote through, I could be dead before tomorrow.

Sure take your time to do it.
But I am not compromising on the outcome.

[beeboy]

I'd be down for some gambling and killing off Dunn immediately today but i'd feel immensely stupid if that fails cause otherwise the game was an auto-win via NL so long as Raven and I are wolves

I am not throwing this game to save us 48 hours.

[beeboy]

If Raven and MT are town and we no lynch.
We literally always win.

[beeboy]

Raven can you tell me the benefit to lynching now.
Because "I don't trust you" isn't a counter argument.

[beeboy]

Midway - Literally conf town or a godfather

Raven
MT

Dunnstral

Clover
Me


We no lynch Dunnstral cops one of me or Clover.
Then we have 2 lynches and a forced 1v1.

This is incredibly basic.

[beeboy]

Raven the forced 1v1 is between Dunnstral and his results.
It doesn't matter if he is lying because we have 2 lynches.

[beeboy]

Raven the forced 1v1 is between Dunnstral and his results.
It doesn't matter if he is lying because we have 2 lynches.

If Dunnstral is town then we can trust his results.
If Dunnstral is scum the 1v1 includes him still.

It literally doesn't matter.

[beeboy]

Also tbh if it's Dunnstral then my statement on it always being one of Dunnstral/Dru wouldn't be incorrect.

[beeboy]

Raven the forced 1v1 is between Dunnstral and his results.
It doesn't matter if he is lying because we have 2 lynches.

Okay, so what is the point of the no lynch then? How does it help if one of me/MT are dead?

Ok so right now the duel is.
Me v Dunnstral v Clover.

If we no lynch Dunn needs to claim a result on one of me / clover.
This forces it to be a 1v1.


If Dunnstral is scum the 1v1 includes him.
If Dunnstral is town then we can trust his results.

We have 2 lynches left.

If I am scum trying to fool you right now Dunnstral claims a guilty on me tomorrow.
If I am town my statement on one of Dru/Dunnstral being scum can easillyyy be correct and I was just wrong on who to start with.

[beeboy]

Raven the forced 1v1 is between Dunnstral and his results.
It doesn't matter if he is lying because we have 2 lynches.

If Dunnstral is town then we can trust his results.
If Dunnstral is scum the 1v1 includes him still.

It literally doesn't matter.

Alright, even if I agree to this, I still don’t see the point of rushing the day. I want to figure out why scum no killed N3? We would have probably never mislynched Dru if they had, so my working theory is scum no killed to frame Dru.

And thus we go back to my first post.
I don't care how long we take but the end result isn't something I'll compromise on.

[beeboy]

Tbh the only way I am wrong on it being one of Dunnstral/Dru.

Is if we have 3 investigative roles a back up and bodyguard and scum don't have any counter play to that.
And if that's the world we live in, I can accept being wrong on my setup spec.

[beeboy]

^ This is me prepping for being flamed post game btw.

[beeboy]

^ If you think faking fear of being flamed post game is something I'd think about as scum then lol. But Dunnstral just guilties me after we no lynch anyway if that is the case.

[beeboy]

I mean we auto win anyway.
And if it isn't Dunn I kinda deserve to be flamed.

But if it is Dunn I think I was at least in the right direction but not perfect >__>

Like if scum is clover, I am highly impressed right now tbh to the point in which I feel like I deserve to be flamed.
If Skitter messed up her read on you then I shouldn't have mislynched Dru I guess?

[beeboy]

I think we more killed Dru because of the roles setup balance and PoE from Morning/Raven being locktown + beeboy/midway/Clover being prob town

i doubt they had the clairvoyance to know that Dru would also follow a potential sort of scum agenda pushing that the no-kill was a multiball indictator

Dru didn't exactly feel right but kinda nothing was. I still feel terrible ;_;

Tbh exactly the thing is. I feel awful cause I think Dru feels like shit over what I do but.

Dunnstral locked himself out of this game and if he is scum he messed up post 1 and didn't have a window to kill me which is really unlucky, but I still stand by not lynching him yesterday tbh. Not to say scum Dunnstral played badly just unlucky.

If scum is Clover he is playing like a fucking god.
If Raven is scum Skitter got hard bamboozled in their PT and that is good enough to me.
If you are scum your playing extremely well and made a sick play keeping the cop alive to make me feel safe about you.

Midway is now confirmed town so I don't need to justify that.


Idk whoever is scum played well and that forced us to misplay.

[beeboy]

I mean we auto win anyway.
And if it isn't Dunn I kinda deserve to be flamed.

But if it is Dunn I think I was at least in the right direction but not perfect >__>

Like if scum is clover, I am highly impressed right now tbh to the point in which I feel like I deserve to be flamed.
If Skitter messed up her read on you then I shouldn't have mislynched Dru I guess?

Why would you think that? There is no one in this playerlist who has less reason to kill Skitter than I do. So, I’m really not liking this at all.

I mean I trust Skitter enough that if your scum I'll lose this game.
I fucked up Dru and if it's not Dunn then I equally deserve to lose this game.
So whatever.

[beeboy]

She had the guilty on Chara, so it looked really suspicious that there was no kill that night, especially since Chara was dying no matter what.

why is this suspicious towards dru?

No killing with 2 PRs alive was really weird.
Because if Dunn was town we were guaranteed an extra result due to that decision.

[beeboy]

I've have done literally the same thing in your shoes. There were like only two options and the safest way to cover both was to exile Dru first

Morning you are great thanks for making me feel better about yesterday.
Hopefully it's just Dunnstral and we didn't mess up, we just did it in the wrong order.

[beeboy]

Raven run through the world of each of Me/Clover/Dunn/Midway being scum.
Relative to Dunnstral being a town cop.

And try and figure out how you lose no lynching.
I don't think you can.

[beeboy]

@Raven

Beeboy basically said "If skitts was bamboozled by Raven, then whatever I'm fine with losing to that". He is saying he will never exile you.

He's not opening you up to being exiled in the future, he's doing the exact opposite and saying "Well we can just eat a loss if Raven or Morning is scum"

Also this.
I am not speculating on it.
I am saying I won't bother speculating on it because I trust Skitter.

[beeboy]

@Raven

Beeboy basically said "If skitts was bamboozled by Raven, then whatever I'm fine with losing to that". He is saying he will never exile you.

He's not opening you up to being exiled in the future, he's doing the exact opposite and saying "Well we can just eat a loss if Raven or Morning is scum"

Also this.
I am not speculating on it.
I am saying I won't bother speculating on it because I trust Skitter.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[beeboy]

tbh you guys make a fair point.
If you want to mislynch me I wouldn't mind, I want a hectic death scene.

[beeboy]

I didn't get one in kill switch either, I feel a tad robbed.
I have to keep joining hectic games until I die =(

[beeboy]

Dunnstral tbh.
I wouldn't be that offended if scum shot you the 1v1 was forced between me and Clover.

[beeboy]

Dunntral the thing is either the 1v1 is forced between you and clover.
Or you and me.

Like I don't see myself back stabbing Skitter and voting Raven.
I am not voting MT
Midway is inno.

The no lynch is fine cause like the 1v1 is always going to be one of Me/You/Clover with the scum in that pool.

[beeboy]

tbh you guys make a fair point.
If you want to mislynch me I wouldn't mind, I want a hectic death scene.

I’m trying to wrap my brain around why scum!Dunn clears midway. I did think he’d probably be the check. But I guess what’s so confusing to me is if you all think that Dunn is scum, then why do you trust his results? I think that’s what’s probably making the least amount of sense to me.

I told Dunn to check Midway in the PT.
He said in thread we were going to talk about the result together.

Next question

[beeboy]

If Dunnstral is scum I don't care if he lies about his results?
If Dunnstral is last scum the rest of us are just town.

Scum Dunnstral can technically call all of us town by mechanics.
And given he is scum it wouldn't be wrong to assume those results are correct and lynch him.

You follow how a solo scum player giving an innocent results is just as reliable as a town player doing it? Since it brings us closer to scum either way?

[beeboy]

I do agree with you that it'd have to be Clover in the event you're town

Can we all use a bit of common sense here. I <3 you bee but I think you’re not really thinking this through logically. I don’t see why scum!Dunn clears midway, do you?

I have a post right above this one.
Scum Dunn clears midway because if Dunnstral is scum then everyone else has to be town.

[beeboy]

If Dunnstral is scum I don't care if he lies about his results?
If Dunnstral is last scum the rest of us are just town.

Scum Dunnstral can technically call all of us town by mechanics.
And given he is scum it wouldn't be wrong to assume those results are correct and lynch him.

You follow how a solo scum player giving an innocent results is just as reliable as a town player doing it? Since it brings us closer to scum either way?

I’m saying I don’t think Dunn is scum here, I think it’s most likely Clover.

How is midway not clear if Dunnstral is town?

[beeboy]

Dunnstral is town -> Midway is clear because town lying is stupid
Dunnstral is scum -> Midway is clear because every player outside Dunn is scum.

[beeboy]

Dunnstral is town -> Midway is clear because town lying is stupid
Dunnstral is scum -> Midway is clear because every player outside Dunn is town

I meant every player outside Dunn is town oops/

[beeboy]

Why does scum!Dunn clear midway?

I told him to?
And going rogue for no reason gets him lynched.

I go "lets check midway"
and Dunnstral goes: "yes"

What is his option here?

[beeboy]

How are you even getting that from my post? I’m clearly saying I think it’s Clover.

You asked how I could trust Dunnstrals results if he is scum.
I said why I could do that.

You said he is probably town.
I said that doesn't change me trusting his result.


I don't know what you are saying tbh.
Do you think his results can be trusted or not?

[beeboy]

Like you started talking to me about whether or not we can trust Dunnstrals results and never resolved that.
That's what my posts are going to be talking about until then.

[beeboy]

I do agree with you that it'd have to be Clover in the event you're town

Can we all use a bit of common sense here. I <3 you bee but I think you’re not really thinking this through logically. I don’t see why scum!Dunn clears midway, do you?

I have a post right above this one.
Scum Dunn clears midway because if Dunnstral is scum then everyone else has to be town.

I disagree, I think it’s against scum!Dunn’s benefit to clear midway.

Ok so he is town and his results can still be trusted????

[beeboy]

You are talking about trusting Dunn's results here.
I don't think any of this makes his results untrustworthy.

[beeboy]

Sure Dunnstral is town.
I still trust his results.

[beeboy]

Like can we go back to point one.
Can we just agree we can trust Dunnstral results?
Which makes midway conf town?

[beeboy]

Thanks midway I agree.

[beeboy]

You are talking about trusting Dunn's results here.
I don't think any of this makes his results untrustworthy.

Again, where are you getting this? I’m saying it’s probably Clover and we can possibly end the game today if I’m right. ISO Dru, Clover was her guess for last mafia.

Why would I chance ending the game today.
When I can 100% win down the line?

What difference does the time frame of me winning make to me

[beeboy]

If Raven or Clover vote something that isn't no lynch I am just voting them

[beeboy]

^ sorry I mean Dunnstral or Clover.
i won't vote raven

[beeboy]

So Raven think about it like this.

We no lynch, Dunnstral gets shot. You are alive and lynch Clover.
We no lynch, You get shot. Dunnstral claims a guilty on Clover.

Like it's just the safer way to win the same way?

[beeboy]

So Raven think about it like this.

We no lynch, Dunnstral gets shot. You are alive and lynch Clover.
We no lynch, You get shot. Dunnstral claims a guilty on Clover.

Like it's just the safer way to win the same way?

Unless you can tell me why this doesn't result in us winning.
I am not going to vote Clover tbh.

I am not stopping us from winning by suggesting this and I don't gain anything by being more right.

[beeboy]

Tbh, I win regardless of whether or not Dunnstral or Clover are scum.
I don't actually care enough to figure out who it is.

[beeboy]

I am way too lazy to deal with that.

[beeboy]

But I don't want to establish being more right.
While risk losing to other worlds.

The thing is if we mislynch clover and Dunnstral guilties me what are you going to do?

So I am not throwing so people can feel better being more right.

[beeboy]

And you can't reasonably get 4 votes.

I won't vote clover.
MT won't vote clover.
Clover won't vote clover.

[beeboy]

And Dunnstral won't vote Clover.
So we now have 4 people who won't vote clover >__>

[beeboy]

¶

Votecount 5.1

[2] No Pressure:

beeboy, Dunnstral

[4] Not Voting:

Morning Tweet, midwaybear, Clover Ebi, Raven Branwen

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to pressure someone.
The Day 5 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-31 17:54:20).

Keep not counting my Hectic votes.
I am onto you Mayor.

[beeboy]

I would've killed Dunnstral since his PR is more threatening and I had that intel B)

[beeboy]

Raven if Clover is scum I'll stall my vote to give myself time to make you a victory graphic ok
Me and MT just want to play it safe cause we are cautious.

Dw we always win this.

[beeboy]

Fine, Obviously I’m outnumbered. But remember what I said here today in case I’m dead tomorrow.

Even if Clover is scum this is still a better play

But if I'm dead tomorrow remember I wanted Dunn (・ω<)

and please for the love of all that is good and holy ensure that you kill A.) Dunn and B.) whoever he didn't inno inside {Clover, beeboy} in that exact order

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[beeboy]

Dunn had to leave Dru alive.
I was actively pushing the idea town had too much power.

The distraction was needed.

[beeboy]

Dunn couldn't kill me because that points to him.
Dunn didn't kill MT or *insert VT of choice* because no killing framed Dru better then the alternative did.

[beeboy]

I am ready now >______>

[beeboy]

can you put fast night in big bold text as you vote for it?

@mod is no pressure 3 or 4 votes to hammer?

[beeboy]

But she still flipped, so from Dunn’s pov, what possible difference does it make? But if you read Dru ISO. it definitely does from Clover’s.

My point is that if you’re scum!Dunn trying to cause a distraction by not killing Dru, how helpful is it really if she still gets flipped? Otoh, it’s definitely to Clover’s advantage not to directly kill her.

I don't actually think Dunn is scum that much I really think it could be either Clover or Dunn.
I just don't want you to jump through hoops in f3 to vote someone Dunn claimed an inno on.
Or rationalize a world in which Dunn faked a guilty on someone.

Like I don't want to read an entire ISO to ensure that :/

[beeboy]

No lynch doesn't lower the number of exiles Dunn needs.

He always needed exactly 3 to win.
With or without the no kill.

Killing Dru and not letting her be exiled increases that number by 1, thus making it that much harder for him to win.

[beeboy]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

[beeboy]

I am not saying Dunn is scum.
I am saying it's a world that I believe no lynching and trusting results is worth playing around.

[beeboy]

I think we have a plan that involves forcing Dunn into a 1v1.
If Dunn says Clover is town you kill me then him.
If Dunn says Clover is scum you kill clover then him.

I don't think their is a world in which the result gets tampered with and you kill me and clover.

Alll I am saying is we trust the results and don't deviate since their is a chance of Dunn being scum for what MT said.

[beeboy]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

[beeboy]

^ Dunnstral verify this is correct.

[beeboy]

@Raven please verify you understand the above so we can move to the fast night tonight so Hectic can day start tomorrow ^^^^^

[beeboy]

FAST NIGHT EVERYONE THANK YOU

[beeboy]

Scum rarely mix up who submits kills n1 and n2.
Tux submitted both nights.

[beeboy]

FAST NIGHT REMINDER.

[beeboy]

It was literally just Tux submitting it twice in a row.

[beeboy]

Scum mech locked themselves not killing Dunn.
Or it's Dunn.

It straight up doesn't matter lol.

[beeboy]

FAST NIGHT REMINDER

[beeboy]

I am way too lazy to read Dru's ISO to solve a mech lock more confidently

[beeboy]

Sure.

[beeboy]

Tbh this game has a solving method we never considered.
Meta people based on how they talk in scum chats regularly LOL.

That would have been so stacked but we are way too late

[beeboy]

I think it's Clover.
I just don't see what I lost no lynching.

[beeboy]

I gave Dunnstral an out to win in our PT recently cause I got frustrated you wouldn't no lynch.
He didn't take it.

Not like it matters we have time to kill Dunnstral/Me/Clover.
But I am fine starting with Clover for you.

[beeboy]

FAST NIGHT REMINDER

[beeboy]

Their isn't.
It's just a mech lock game tbh lol.

[beeboy]

lol not killing Dunn

[beeboy]

No pressure then, everyone! We're all innocent until proven guilty after all.

I really love how Hectic used an actual Clover quote in his flavor.
Well this isn't word for word but I still like it

[beeboy]

VOTE: Mayor

Die mayor.

[beeboy]

Midway vote the mayor with me pls.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Clover

[beeboy]

If it's Dunnstral I am playing bad at mafia sim.

[beeboy]

I think Dunnstral as scum was to some degree playing to his out. But he also presented fair logic if he believed I was 100% town and both himself and you die anyway it didn't matter. So he might as well check Raven.
Like the logic isn't that flawed tbh, maybe I am just a sucker for people calling me town though and I was supposed to roast him.

[beeboy]

Clover why did you quick hammer with no discussion yesterday?
I told Dunn to check you because that was basically a scum claim.

[beeboy]

I mean I am trying to figure this out, since I don't think it's impossible I don't get lynched.
So I want to make sure I make the right choice.

Level 1 says it's Dunn.
Both of you played great scum games so props to that.
But even if you played great I don't want to lose.

[beeboy]

But level 1 also made me lynch Dru so idk how much I trust level 1 right now lol

[beeboy]

VOTE: Dunn/vote]

On review I don't see why Dunn waited until the night phase to talk about checking Raven.
I don't scum read the act of checking Raven in particular.
I think he justified that to me very well.

I just think he should have spoke about that in the open

[beeboy]

hmmm
idk I guess I could just lynch Dunn.

If the game has 2 scum then whatever?

[beeboy]

VOTE: Dunnstral

Sigh can we just end this game.
Lynching Dru is still haunting me.

And I am going back to my logic that day, one of Dunnstral and Dru has to flip scum.

[beeboy]

MT isn't the kill Clover makes if leaving Dunnstral alive is worth it.
Midway is.

MT was always killing Dunnstral first.

[beeboy]

MT isn't the kill Clover makes if leaving Dunnstral alive is worth it.
Midway is.

MT was always killing Dunnstral first.

Hello bee, wifom calling?

When WIFOM calls I just play level 1 mafia.

[beeboy]

3389 is you saying you don't mind losing by voting me out if there's still 2 scum alive - is what I'm getting at here

I think we have literally never seen evidence of 2 scum, outside Dru tin foiling it.

[beeboy]

Not to mention this second faction has a stupid disadvantage as if your town your PR and the watcher goes after the mafia team.
Then the PR dies before the 2nd team activates.

I thought about this earlier in the game.

[beeboy]

UNVOTE:

Midway is conf town, I am not sure who you think is hammering but ok.

[beeboy]

On review I don't see why Dunn waited until the night phase to talk about checking Raven.

Because I was responding to something you said

I meant just using the day thread for it.

[beeboy]

Whatever I have 2 weeks.
I am going to use it, see you all later.

[beeboy]

If Dunnstral flips scum then I don't have to feel like shit about lynching Dru.
Because my entire theory on Scum needing to be in the PR claims would be correct.

As soon as I back down on that, I basically lynched Dru to fulfill half a theory.

[beeboy]

Honestly unless I take this very slow, I am going to let the fact I fucked up my Dru read dictate my decision today.
It's really messing up my thought process tbh.

Sorry I want to step away and figure this out while I am on a walk or something.

[beeboy]

Raven if I was scum you'd be dead because of how uncomfortable you make me. No if and or buts about it. Please do not interact with me for the remainder of the game if you can help it. If you want to push me as scum so be it, but this is a game of mafia meant for fun and you do not make this fun. I am not blaming you for this, it's probably more me then you. But I hope you'll respect my wishes.

Am I allowed to read into this?

[beeboy]

Cause it's not that scum wouldn't think that.
Scum wouldn't post that.

[beeboy]

Tbh as long we get on the same page that literally both of them need to die then that's that >.>

[beeboy]

I think I've changed my mind on who I want to vote 4 times now.
@Midway what do you think?

[beeboy]

It's not lylo but I guess I'll show I read this?
See you all in the morning.

[beeboy]

On a 1-10 scale how predicatable was it Dunn would cop Clover over Raven?

[beeboy]

I'll be honest order isn't a huge deal to me as long as both die, but that is something that went through my head.

[beeboy]

On a 1-10 scale how predicatable was it Dunn would cop Clover over Raven?

Raven over Clover.
I am at around a 3 on this, and I have the edge of having my own PT.

[beeboy]

ik I've spent the entire day saying I want to kill Dunn first.
But not waiting for midway is kinda scum bag.

[beeboy]

Intent

I knew.

[beeboy]

I told him not to but he wanted to check you to play around the worst case.
He said I lose to you in a F3 1v1 if clover came up town, I disagreed.
I didn't care enough to stop him further.

Maybe I was too complacent but we basically agreed he can do it but it's on him it happened.

[beeboy]

Midway can I hammer?

[beeboy]

Intent

I knew.

When did you know?

When he said.
"I am going to target Raven"
I said don't a few times.
He gave his explanation.
I said doing it gets me killed in particular.
He said he would take responsibility for it which tbf he is doing

[beeboy]

I don't recall scum reading clover in a single game I've played outside this one.
Where I backpeddled and said if they are scum they are a god

[beeboy]

Tbh Dunn is so content on dying right now idk.
He isn't saying I knew for like no good reason to shift pressure off himself.
And his only real angle is killing Clover after himself.

Like I guess it's a last ditch effort since the battle extends beyond today?

[beeboy]

After the hammer

[beeboy]

I have wanted to vote him most of the day.
I am just nervous is all since I already fucked up idk

[beeboy]

Tbh I wanted Dunn dead since Dru flipped town.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Dunn

Whatever I'll commit to being bad. If no scum was in Dru/Dunn guess I threw the game for everyone

[beeboy]

Thanks for modding Hectic!!!!

[beeboy]

Back stabbed by Dunnstral, and I couldn't even lynch the Mayor.
What a game.

[beeboy]

Maybe just not have the backup?
If scum make the choice to kill the power roles and make themselves look worse.
Then the watcher doesn't come back to haunt them anyway.

And in that world town is still left with a cop.