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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:50 am

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Guys, I feel like the content of Gentleman 8’s post may come from a player who is a vampire, warlock, or werewolf. Is there anything that you can point me to to assuage my doubts!?
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Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:16 am

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That sounds basically like a good plan, is the problem not that VWW are going to be trying very hard to play for a pocket on G8, meaning that his ability to successfully make calls on who actually are the towniest 2 ladies and 2 gents will be impaired.

I also kind of like the idea of choosing on my own steam whether or not to accept a proposal, but I guess that’s reasonably likely anyway.

So yeah overall I’m on board with that plan, but I think the prince should talk through his choices properly before dictating them to give us a chance to check for bias in his picks
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Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:17 am

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In post 12, Gentleman 1 wrote:We only need to correctly identify 1 T-T pairing to win, right? Then yeah, that sounds pretty solid.
Two, technically, as VWW can kill one. I suppose it’s optimal to kill the IC but not guaranteed.
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:18 am

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In post 14, Gentleman 8 wrote:on a serious note, i have mod confirmation that the werewolf is hiding her ears by lowering them and making them blend with her hair. do with this vital piece of information what you will... i'm off to find the cordial i was promised
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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:19 am

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In post 16, Gentleman 1 wrote:How is a werewolf/vampire/warlock (from now on will be referred to as a vamlolf) going to pocket an IC?
I mean idk, probably the same way scum would pocket an IC in other games?
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Post Post #20 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:20 am

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Engaging with them a lot, trying to predict what their reads will be and get their first to simulate mind melding, pushing back on some things lightly so it doesn’t look too much like a pocket, being really nice, flirting

There’s a very long list that doesn’t end there, but I don’t know why scum wouldn’t play to pocket the IC, or at least why one of VWW wouldnt
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Post Post #30 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:31 am

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In post 25, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 24, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 12, Gentleman 1 wrote:We only need to correctly identify 1 T-T pairing to win, right? Then yeah, that sounds pretty solid.
We'd need 2-3.
Wolves can pair together which means 1 town pair gets end gamed against a W/W pair.
Wolves also get 1 kill which makes it 2 pairs ignoring the above.

Not sure how I feel about this town slip as I am the only one to have noticed it. But I think Gentleman 1 is probably town.
@Lady 5 thoughts?
The townslip is that G1 wasn’t considering the potential of a townpair being able to endgame? Idk if I’m understanding this right
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Post Post #34 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:33 am

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I don’t have a problem with LX/GX for names but not do I object to nicknames. I may change my avi though, so please don’t come up with one for me yet

I’m using maf tiger to avoid slipping, that’s how excited I am to play this game
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Post Post #35 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:33 am

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But nor*
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Post Post #41 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:37 am

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In post 37, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 30, Lady 5 wrote:The townslip is that G1 wasn’t considering the potential of a townpair being able to endgame? Idk if I’m understanding this right
He said we needed to identify 1 town pair to win, not factoring in the scum kill.
Scum have likely already thought about the win con of each alignment so it's a weird thing to miss we'd need a minimum of 2.

Given you are also confused though maybe I shouldn't use this as a clearing metric.
I would say it lightly increases the odds of town but is such a simple thing to drop a mention of as scum that I wouldn’t put too much weight into it
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Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:03 am

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I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:03 am

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I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either
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Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:03 am

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I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either
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Post Post #59 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:03 am

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...the internet is dumb
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Post Post #222 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 am

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Not sure I get why L8 thinks L6 is strong already
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Post Post #241 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:23 am

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In post 233, Lady 7 wrote:How do we determine who is and isn't a strong player in a game full of secret alts?
Yes, exactly my point

I know what L6 is referencing, but is that even L6’s choice or just a hangover from perfect masquerade?
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Post Post #243 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:23 am

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Also someone gave me credit for the “letting the IC choose” thing and I feel I should point out that you’re mixing me up with L7
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Post Post #267 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:00 am

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In post 265, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 263, Lady 2 wrote:Call me whatever you want as long as it's not Peach >:(
I'll call you Maria then
Can we not
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Post Post #538 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:47 pm

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I’ll level with you, I’m probably not gonna bother reading the inbetween bits of when I’m here and when I’m not if the game keeps moving at this pace

I’m not around rn but I’ll be down to chat sometime tomorrow with anyone who happens to be on at the same time as me
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Post Post #539 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:48 pm

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I guess I’ll read the stuff that comes immediately after I’ve posted so ping me any questions or whatever now and I’ll have a look when I’m next around
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Post Post #542 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:52 pm

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Jokes on you I fuckin love that shit
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Post Post #544 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:56 pm

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In post 541, Gentleman 1 wrote:Welcome back, L5.TBD.

What's your favorite type of cheese?
I’m going to risk answering this despite the potential for being identified from it by anyone who’s particularly canny — but honestly Mont Jura comté just absolutely fucking bangs and that needs to be shared with the world

Brie de Meaux, Norwegian Jarlsberg, and Manchego all get an honorable mention though
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Post Post #545 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 543, Gentleman 1 wrote:Unsure if really passionate about Shakespeare or cheese.
Well the answer was about shakespeare, but as you can see, cheese is another field in which I have strong opinions
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Post Post #550 (isolation #23) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm

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Mine
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Post Post #569 (isolation #24) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:29 am

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I think that, coupled with the early acceptance, is probably an increase in scum equity for L3
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Post Post #570 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:29 am

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Also this game fuckin sucks so far
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Post Post #571 (isolation #26) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:30 am

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Which is weird because I honestly normally love FG games
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Post Post #572 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:32 am

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I see G3 has decided to join L3, RIP
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Post Post #573 (isolation #28) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:36 am

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Huh, idk what to do about this
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Post Post #577 (isolation #29) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:16 am

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In post 576, Gentleman 5 wrote:Gent 3 did what?
I’ve PM’d fakegod about it because I wasn’t sure what to do and I think it’s probably best we just let him handle it
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Post Post #578 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:17 am

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Aren’t you supposed to be propositioning me or something?
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Post Post #581 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:26 am

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It sort of feels like L7, L8, G1, G4, G5, L6 are freezing out the rest of the game and just talking among each other

idk if that means that there is a cluster of scum in there, but it does make the game highly demotivating and uninteresting from the perspective of someone who is outside that, and also I'm somewhat doubtful that scum is entirely outside that grouping even though I don't have strong reads on anyone inside it
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Post Post #582 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:27 am

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In post 579, Gentleman 8 wrote:that's silly. the women in this game aren't the ones in danger of getting kicked out of my ball so why would they, even as scum, care about quickly accepting an offer?
because if town L3 should have been more worried about an early proposition from scum
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Post Post #585 (isolation #33) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:35 am

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I mean I would have a strong preference towards having a town partner unless I had an insane confidence in my raw reads (which I don't) in which case I guess I might try to bait my top SR into partnering with me so I could leave and kill them

Looking at the game overall, there should always be a preference for town to seek out and partner with other town when possible unless you consider yourself highly >average at sorting in hoods. If you do, it makes sense to be unconcerned, but idk if I think L3 fits that mould.

The benefits of being with town are twofold, as I see it. First, if everyone who is town partners with town, scum are forced to partner with each other thereby increasing the odds of a double whammy elimination if that pairing is picked. Secondly, solving in the hoods will be better by definition if paired with town
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Post Post #586 (isolation #34) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:36 am

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In post 584, Lady 4 wrote:I am not really getting this vibe?
okay, what do you think then?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #35) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:42 am

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In post 587, Gentleman 8 wrote:it's about whether you believe she should also have thought that for some reason
right, only I don't see why town thinks "yes, I should just accept the first proposal that comes my way"
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Post Post #589 (isolation #36) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:43 am

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especially when there had already been discussion on a potential optimal strategy from L7 around allowing you to choose the top two matches
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Post Post #591 (isolation #37) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:48 am

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but that's like not why she said she accepted? she said her reasons for accepting were in whereas what she's talking about in was general theory talk for the setup
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Post Post #593 (isolation #38) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:49 am

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idk, maybe I'm wrong, whatever

hey gents, will accept whoever wants to proposition me next at this point
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Post Post #595 (isolation #39) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:51 am

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In post 592, Lady 4 wrote:
In post 586, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 584, Lady 4 wrote:I am not really getting this vibe?
okay, what do you think then?
I don't feel "frozen out" and I don't see the people you named trying to do so
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Post Post #597 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 594, Gentleman 5 wrote:
In post 578, Lady 5 wrote:Aren’t you supposed to be propositioning me or something?
1Who, me?
In post 579, Gentleman 8 wrote:that's silly. the women in this game aren't the ones in danger of getting kicked out of my ball so why would they, even as scum, care about quickly accepting an offer?
That's true, but then maybe they're scum and just didn't have a plan in mind and did whatever
In post 581, Lady 5 wrote:It sort of feels like L7, L8, G1, G4, G5, L6 are freezing out the rest of the game and just talking among each other

idk if that means that there is a cluster of scum in there, but it does make the game highly demotivating and uninteresting from the perspective of someone who is outside that, and also I'm somewhat doubtful that scum is entirely outside that grouping even though I don't have strong reads on anyone inside it
2I don't think that's true. People posted before I showed up, then they left, and I started posting. I'm talking with anyone who speaks.
1 you, but also the other gentlemen in general

2 it feels to me very much like that has been an in-group so far that has primarily been interested in speaking amongst itself. obviously, there were a lot of posts from when I first posted to when I came back, but when I was around as the day began I still felt that most of that group were not very interested in what I thought about anything or in engaging with me

my impression when I skimmed through until like p11 was that this group has mostly been talking with itself as a preference over the other slots in the game, particularly the quieter ones
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Post Post #598 (isolation #41) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:57 am

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In post 596, Gentleman 5 wrote:
In post 593, Lady 5 wrote:hey gents, will accept whoever wants to proposition me next at this point
Why?

What is 'this point', the start of the second irl day of this game? (not even)
because I feel incredibly disengaged from the game, I'm not having fun, and I hope having a partner might help with that
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Post Post #599 (isolation #42) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:01 am

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also because we've apparently given up long ago on anything like an optimal matching strategy so now I don't care about that either, nor does G8 apparently
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Post Post #601 (isolation #43) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:03 am

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@G8 eh, I'm kind of coming round to me just being wrong about this or reading too much into it

I think it's a weak explanation but idk why scum inherently means strong explanation? but equally yeah, I think maybe I've been reading "weak explanation for doing it" as scum bullshitting when it could just be a weak explanation for an honest reason
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Post Post #604 (isolation #44) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:12 am

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okay, that seems fair regarding the talking about proposing/accepting. I don't want to get too far into meta (because I agree it interferes with the point, but equally I know that it's informing what I think and I don't want to disadvantage my play by not using that knowledge or sharing it) but I don't think that L3 would go against a team consensus, which seems to fit unless the scum team have the plan of "just accept whatever if you're a lady" which... it's not unreasonable, I don't think, but I also don't know if it's that likely

idk if you're actually floating the idea that a weak scum would want to pair with a strong partner, but I'm not sure that's true. I'd rather pair with a moderate player in that circumstance, because I'd be worried about a strong player figuring me out.

okay, I suppose I'm back to around neutral on L3, maybe very, very slightly town
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Post Post #607 (isolation #45) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:21 am

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Post Post #608 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:21 am

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I wish you weren't conftown, G8
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Post Post #631 (isolation #47) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:11 am

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It’s not you specifically or exclusively, it’s more that I feel entirely superfluous so far, and the only person who has felt particularly interested in engaging with me has been the conftown

G5 counts too, I guess
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Post Post #632 (isolation #48) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:14 am

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In post 614, Gentleman 5 wrote:Note that you don't get a pt until the end of the dance phase (after somebody is left out)

Who do you think we should leave out? Who are some of your preferences for the dance, other than me?
Yep, I knew that bit about the PTs

Err, let me think

I kind of think the bloc that I talked about has scum in it but I have no idea who. I would be surprised if town was playing totally passively. I still slightly like L7 for town, but the fact she didn’t stick with her own plan brings her down a bit. I liked G4 and was hoping he would talk to me, I don’t know what G2 thinks is scummy there, and I’m generally not that impressed with G2’s content.

I don’t know why G1 is being townread.

I quite like you for town but I’m not sure if it’s justified or if it’s just because you’re talking to me.

L3 is slightly town based on talking with G8 about her.

I don’t think I have anything else atm.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #49) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:14 am

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Oh, I dislike gentleman 7’s entrance too

L4 is very null
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Post Post #634 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:16 am

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L6 is also null after checking iso
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Post Post #635 (isolation #51) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:16 am

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Anyone I haven’t mentioned hasn’t made an impression or I haven’t really read at all, so they’re default null instead of null from their actual content
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Post Post #741 (isolation #52) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:16 am

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In post 636, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 632, Lady 5 wrote:t the fact she didn’t stick with her own plan brings her down a bit.
I paired up because I thought I was controlling the thread and I wanted to take a backseat, whether or not I actually end up doing that is subject to what the future holds.

Also once G5.Skyrim and L8.Ghost paired up I lost 2 town reads and my plan becomes functionally impossible.

Our IC also just doesn't seem very engaged relatively speaking to find multiple top town reads to get them to pair off. I think he is more keen on just finding a "loose" town and defending them, and my plan kind of hinged on the IC.

Not like I didn't want my plan to occur, I just don't it was going to work in the given game state, I believe I am paired up with town which is as much of an optimal pair as what I can get.
Okay, I think this makes sense.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #53) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:20 am

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In post 639, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 588, Lady 5 wrote:right, only I don't see why town thinks "yes, I should just accept the first proposal that comes my way"
It probably comes from a mindset of not thinking who pairs with whom is very important. Which while wrong is understandable.

But impulsiveness in general is a towntell and scum-her would likely have been concerned about how opportunistic it looked so if anything it's points in her favor.
So I think that this is kind of true, but I’m not sold entirely. I think that it depends a lot on the scum. There are definitely a few people on site who enjoy making impulsive plays and if this is one of them they’d totally play like that as scum. Given that there’s no way to know who’s behind that slot, I’m inclined to TR this less.

I also read your post before this on optimal pairing, and think I agree with L7’s commentary on it, more or less.

Why do you think L2’s sr on you stems from personality reasons?
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Post Post #748 (isolation #54) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:21 am

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In post 643, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 618, Lady 4 wrote:Planet 5 seems genuine in her frustrations here
Is this town for you or just genuine frustration and therefore not faked?
Wondering since you didn't give a follow-up sentence.
I think I’d be frustrated regardless of my alignment, fwiw
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Post Post #752 (isolation #55) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:26 am

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In post 648, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 581, Lady 5 wrote:It sort of feels like L7, L8, G1, G4, G5, L6 are freezing out the rest of the game and just talking among each other

idk if that means that there is a cluster of scum in there, but it does make the game highly demotivating and uninteresting from the perspective of someone who is outside that, and also I'm somewhat doubtful that scum is entirely outside that grouping even though I don't have strong reads on anyone inside it
it's literally just because no one outside that group was posting for a long while

it's not a nefarious clique

I was trying to get a handle on you earlier, which I mentioned, but your posts continued to strike me as incredibly null
Okay, but I was around at the beginning when it started and it really felt like it didn’t matter if I was there or not which is part of why I left to do other things. I don’t think I really implied that it was a nefarious clique, but I kind of see how you could get that reading. But i guess i more meant that i see it as fairly likely that scum could be in there and trying to keep discussion focussed on the group to freeze out other slots. Although now I write that down it feels silly. I guess maybe it makes more sense that scum would not want to risk a townbloc forming early and would have a lot of incentive to be trying to infiltrate that?

I think it’s a shame that you didn’t engage with me more if you thought my posting was null. I feel like this is happening repeatedly, fairly or not, that people are saying things that make it really hard to go any further. “Your posts continued to strike me as incredibly null” — okay, so why not do anything to try and rectify that?
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Post Post #756 (isolation #56) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:27 am

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In post 652, Lady 6 wrote:Lady Earth 5, what leads you to think there's scum in the block you've mentioned?
Maybe L8 or G1? But I’m not sure

Maybe you

I feel best about L7 and G4, I’ve liked G5’s engagements with me so far
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Post Post #764 (isolation #57) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:30 am

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I’d like people to at least *think* about who I should pair with, by the way
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Post Post #768 (isolation #58) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 762, Lady 6 wrote:I like, have? I think we've just missed each other in threads a lot because I've directed posts at you but I don't think you've ever been around to answer them.

I understand why you were frustrated and I'm sorry for contributing to that at all

generally when I'm playing I focus on what's in front of me, especially for a game of this pace, and I had kind of thrown you in a "sort later" pile until I had either the capacity to go back and figure you out or could interact with you more
Okay, I’m sorry if I missed them, and it’s cool, like I said, I don’t think it was necessarily intentional on the part of anyone (unless there is scum in there in which case it’s still probably more s matter of infiltrating/disrupting rather than trying to create a sense of alienation)

Okay, so can we talk now? Who do you think I should be thinking about pairing with?
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Post Post #770 (isolation #59) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 675, Gentleman 6 wrote:Much better. This tophat truly represents everything this game means to me.


Anyways, let's talk about how goddamn townie my prior owner's replace out was, shall we?
If not breaking the rules, why do you think it was so townie?
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Post Post #771 (isolation #60) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 675, Gentleman 6 wrote:Much better. This tophat truly represents everything this game means to me.


Anyways, let's talk about how goddamn townie my prior owner's replace out was, shall we?
If not breaking the rules, why do you think it was so townie?
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Post Post #775 (isolation #61) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 694, Lady 1 wrote:I'm already gonna be voting for pair Gent 1/Lady 7 when the game starts
Why?
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Post Post #777 (isolation #62) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 691, Gentleman 9 wrote:FTR ladies (eg 5 and 1) you gotta be more choosy. You have all the bargaining power here.
Hard to be choosy when none of the gents are interested in me ‘\_(00)_/‘
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Post Post #781 (isolation #63) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 692, Gentleman 9 wrote:I don't understand how lady 5 earth is too masculine
And I’d also like to know what G7 means by this?
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Post Post #783 (isolation #64) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 780, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 778, Lady 6 wrote:Is Gent 4 still your preference Lady 5? Who do you think you should be paired with?
I mean "Lady 5 is your preference still Gent 4"

I'm typing too fast
I would want to double check, G4’s lack of interest in me is a turn off

Can I say that I honestly think I’d prefer G8 of all of them so far? I think I’d be reading him as town even if he wasn’t confirmed

Sadly, I’d rather dance with a lady but due to the structure of the game I think I’ll be choosing a least bad option (unless G8 asks me, which I’d be happy with)
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Post Post #786 (isolation #65) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:43 am

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G4 is probably my pick of the non-confirmed gentlemen, but that depends quite a lot on how much the un-confirmed engage with me over the rest of phase and whether I think they’d make a good partner
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Post Post #790 (isolation #66) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:46 am

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In post 699, Lady 8 wrote:My apologies that you felt left out Lady Earth 5, I was just speaking with the people who were active at the time I was posting, rather than searching backwards too much. I also focused on the Gents more. It was easier for me that way
In post 593, Lady 5 wrote:idk, maybe I'm wrong, whatever

hey gents, will accept whoever wants to proposition me next at this point
In post 598, Lady 5 wrote:because I feel incredibly disengaged from the game, I'm not having fun, and I hope having a partner might help with that
hmm

I want to townread your frustration, although I probably shouldn't. The feeling of being ignored would suck either way. But I can confirm having a date makes this very exciting!
In post 604, Lady 5 wrote:okay, I suppose I'm back to around neutral on L3, maybe very, very slightly town
More or less where I have her! Maybe a bit higher
In post 612, Gentleman 2 wrote:Pardon, majesty. It's just my advice to evict Gentleman 4.
This will be interesting
In post 633, Lady 5 wrote:Oh, I dislike gentleman 7’s entrance too

L4 is very null
Agree, in a sense that it's pretty easy to fake. Was just "Who's paired?" -> "I ask this Lady cause I like her the most". Nothing wrong with getting straight to the point I guess if he wants but it is really not helpful for determining his alignment
Hi, as I’ve said to the others, it’s okay, I don’t think it was something being done intentionally (probably)

Regarding the last bit, what do you think of it regarding G8’s idea that scum probably have a strategy of some sort in how they’d approach proposals or accepting proposals? Do you think the similarity to G9’s proposal/L3’s acceptance is significant at all?
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Post Post #791 (isolation #67) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:48 am

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In post 788, Gentleman 6 wrote:
In post 771, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 675, Gentleman 6 wrote:Much better. This tophat truly represents everything this game means to me.


Anyways, let's talk about how goddamn townie my prior owner's replace out was, shall we?
If not breaking the rules, why do you think it was so townie?
It wasn't in particular (I think it is a LITTLE but I'm sort of biased) but I really hoped people would engage me on it!

You're the second person to do so and the first person (Lady the 8th) has stated that she felt it "Decently townie". Which, while not a bad take, I'd love to hear HER reasons why!
I really feel like it was AI given the lack of meta on the slot

I could see a town slot who is new to the game feeling that way, absolutely, but given the secret alt aspect I also think it would be the sort of thing a player who dislikes scum might say to just nope out of the game immediately
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Post Post #792 (isolation #68) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:49 am

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In post 789, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 783, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 780, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 778, Lady 6 wrote:Is Gent 4 still your preference Lady 5? Who do you think you should be paired with?
I mean "Lady 5 is your preference still Gent 4"

I'm typing too fast
I would want to double check, G4’s lack of interest in me is a turn off

Can I say that I honestly think I’d prefer G8 of all of them so far? I think I’d be reading him as town even if he wasn’t confirmed

Sadly, I’d rather dance with a lady but due to the structure of the game I think I’ll be choosing a least bad option (unless G8 asks me, which I’d be happy with)
Personally, if I had complete control I'd probably put you with G8 and then have Lady 1/Gent 6 pair up. And then Gent 4/Lady 2, and maybe Gent 2/Lady 4? Those last ones are a bit tentative but I think those are my pairings.
Why Lady 1 and Gent 6?
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Post Post #813 (isolation #69) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:05 pm

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Gentleman 6, who do you want to pair with?
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Post Post #817 (isolation #70) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:08 pm

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In post 755, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 746, Lady 5 wrote:Why do you think L2’s sr on you stems from personality reasons?
I assume you mean either L1 or L4, but this applies to both. I'm pretty slow to form reads and I tend to make a lot of posts that don't lead anywhere specific or support a specific read. People love to call me scum for fence sitting, or not being proactive, or not having many reads, or any number of things that aren't scum-indicative.
What do you consider scum indicative? Because I agree, sort of, with what you’re saying here. I think those things are generally NAI unless there are meta based reasons to think they are. As this is anon, I think they’re more towards AI than normal. I do think that they skew more towards scum though (or at least that not having reads does)
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Post Post #820 (isolation #71) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:08 pm

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In post 814, Gentleman 3 wrote:
I invite Lady 6 to dance
.


For some reason I can't shake the thought that the best partner for Gentleman 8 would be Lady 5, although I'm not sure I could really elaborate why.

Why is it that people seem to think that Lady 1 should be paired with him (if anyone actually thinks that)? Is our best metric for the partner of the IC someone who is townread, but not too townread? Because under those lines, I might actually put forward Lady 2 instead.

I'm also impartial to the plan that Gentleman 8 put forward himself of simply choosing an obscure townread that he feels he can hard defend. It's really up to him in the end regardless, unless we plan on leaving out our IC.
L6 can we talk a bit more before you accept this?
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Post Post #829 (isolation #72) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:14 pm

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G3 why do you think G6 is scummy?
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Post Post #842 (isolation #73) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:17 pm

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Argh, I have to run. I’ll be back in an hour or so I think — L6 I’d really like to talk to you more before you accept the proposal from G3
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Post Post #943 (isolation #74) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 939, Lady 6 wrote:but I'm holding off because Lady 5 wanted to talk with me more
Hi, I’m back! So yeah, I wanted to talk to you about it because you’re my top TR and therefore I’m quite invested in seeing you paired with someone else I’m townreading and while I think G3 is pretty fine, I’m bothered by their attempt to leave out G6 who I actually think is pretty towny
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Post Post #944 (isolation #75) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:38 pm

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In post 942, FakeGod wrote:
Mafia Goon was Gentleman 1 and is being force-replaced.
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Post Post #949 (isolation #76) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:40 pm

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I’d like to talk more with you directly about the removal of G6 btw, G3
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Post Post #952 (isolation #77) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:41 pm

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I’m defending you, you butthead!
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Post Post #953 (isolation #78) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:41 pm

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Honestly, some people
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Post Post #957 (isolation #79) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:43 pm

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Spoiler: lewd
...what kind of balls?
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Post Post #958 (isolation #80) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 956, Gentleman 6 wrote:
In post 953, Lady 5 wrote:Honestly, some people
I'm currently that super-dense liquid your high school chemistry teacher uses to make you guess wrong about float vs sink on the first week.

Don't expect super smart heads up play.
I dropped out to start a business where we recycle iPhone cores and turn them into rainwater ornaments for inner city orphans
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Post Post #959 (isolation #81) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 955, Gentleman 6 wrote:Essentially, I am seriously debating joining with Lady 1 in the hemlock society, for both of our sakes.
But I also townlean lady 1!
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Post Post #961 (isolation #82) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:47 pm

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G2, what makes you so confident on both me and G6?
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Post Post #963 (isolation #83) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:48 pm

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In post 960, Gentleman 3 wrote:Sure. What would you like to talk about?
If you’ve gone into depth or substantiated your SR there more fully could you link me to it/quote it? If not, could you run through it for me? My impression of the new G6 has been pretty consistently town and I don’t want him eliminated
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Post Post #966 (isolation #84) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:49 pm

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Why does the suicide mechanic tend to hurt more than it helps?
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Post Post #978 (isolation #85) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 972, Gentleman 8 wrote:hmmmmm. yeah, no traffic around. our transportation system is a series of catapults and large feather-stuffed mattresses. you get launched from one catapult station to the next if you need to travel long distance

disclaimer: by allowing yourself to be launched by a catapult, you accept that my kingdom is not liable for any harm caused by imperfect aim or faulty mattresses


roads are inefficient. once theyre built there's nothing to do except maintain them. the catapult system keeps many peasants employed long-term, from the launchers to the clean-up crew

you gotta think about this stuff when you're a prince

that and dancing apparently




honestly, i'm surprised anyone had enough interest in coming to a masquerade ball hosted at my palace, now that i think about it

i guess i'm just that charming?
Please dance with me

I know I’m meant to be the one who asks but I’m making an exception
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Post Post #984 (isolation #86) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 977, Gentleman 3 wrote:Sure, let me clarify the nature of my read there: I currently think Gentleman 6 is the best choice to be left out not because of material that he has posted that I find scum-indicative, but because—compared to the other unpaired Gentleman in the game—I have the least amount of reason to townread him. (Some may take a lack of town-indicative material as itself something that is scum-indicative, but that's really more of a philosophical debate).

Lady 6 had a minor reason to townread Gentleman 2, and his proposal to have some Ladies voluntarily refuse pairings to have more flips (which would presumably include himself being left out) I see as a minor reason to townread him. Gentleman 7's brash attitude seems on the surface to be unconcerned with survival, which I consider to be town-indicative.

When it comes to Gentleman 6, I just don't see reason to townread him. He's been around, but so far I feel he hasn't given many thoughts which have struck me very much. There was his point about how he thought his predecessor's replacement was towny, but I don't feel as though anything came from that; if he came to conclusions based off of people's reactions there, I haven't seen them. He's been chatting a bit with people, but I haven't seen anything that strikes me as incredibly in-depth or only likely to come from town.
Okay, so regarding the last bit, I thought him leaving that there as a thing to see if people would call him up on it was townie, and I don’t think he could do that immediately without ruining the entire thing. And since I asked him about it, I liked his explanation and I think he did ask a follow up to L8 as the other person who reacted.

I can try to go through his ISO and explain a bit more when I’ve thought he’s townie so far, but if I do that can you also talk about the other gents: like why not G1, G4, G5, G9?
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Post Post #987 (isolation #87) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:05 pm

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Don’t start ignoring me now G8 :(
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Post Post #989 (isolation #88) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:07 pm

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I think I don’t like L4 or G7 and I’d quite like them to pair
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Post Post #991 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 892, Gentleman 2 wrote:Scum wants to pair up as soon as possible. Gent 5 or Gent 9 comes into mind.
Can you explain this more please? I think G8 made some very valid points about why scum are likely to have thought about how they’ll approach claiming and I don’t think that would necessarily mean going for early pairing
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Post Post #992 (isolation #90) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 990, Lady 1 wrote:Yes townread me more you fools. I cannot wait to win this game as a wolf.
You’re not meant to claim your main
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Post Post #999 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:14 pm

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In post 993, Gentleman 8 wrote:
i would consider asking you to dance if i were to make a proposal now, lady 5


i am in the process of reading (incredibly slowly) if it were not already obvious from the quotes i'm pulling up 10 pages back
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:15 pm

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Mine
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #93) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:17 pm

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In post 994, Lady 1 wrote:
In post 992, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 990, Lady 1 wrote:Yes townread me more you fools. I cannot wait to win this game as a wolf.
You’re not meant to claim your main
I'm positive no one in this game knows my main so I can post however I want.
Oh, maybe I’m wrong

This just sounded incredibly like something a certain scummer would say and I thought it was definitely him or her
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #94) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:20 pm

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Do you not like G6, L7?
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #95) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:06 pm

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Okay, L6, I think my concerns are assuaged
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #96) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:15 pm

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It was a couple of things, but I really liked as I think my tone could very easily have been construed as aggressive and I don’t really think I was in a particularly good position in thread at the time, which I think you could have capitalised on if you were scum to push me or just brush me off

Instead I felt like you gave a very measured response and then helped in the ways I’d asked to bring me into the game. I’m aware that you might be scum who saw the opportunity for a pocket, but I generally try to bank that sort of paranoia for later. I also don’t think your initial response to me where the words “nefarious clique” were used is the way you’d start off if you were pocketing me

Then on top of that I liked the way you approached L1 and got a bit iffy about how you were trying to understand her read and not trying to defend L7
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #97) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:21 pm

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Also, just as a sidebar, I think I prefer Gaia to Earth for anyone who’s using the nicknames and not the letter-number format
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #98) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:33 pm

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Also acceptable, although I’d prefer miss worldwide

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Post Post #1061 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:34 pm

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Wait, I ddl spoiler tags, why didn’t they work!?
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #100) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 1060, Lady 5 wrote:Also acceptable, although I’d prefer miss worldwide

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Post Post #1064 (isolation #101) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:36 pm

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G4 what was it that you liked about L2?
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #102) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 1070, Gentleman 8 wrote:i honestly don't understand why anyone thinks lady 6 is town. tbh she's the most likely to be scum among the ladies, from what ive read
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But why tho?
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:11 am

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In post 1254, Gentleman 8 wrote:no one has asked me to dance yet either

cheer up, no need to cry about it
I’m just a planet, standing in front of a prince, asking him to explain the intricacies or administrating a trebuchet based transportation to her
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:13 am

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I should probably mention that L6 and G3 are probably my two top townreads though, but we can have like adorable couple arguments like in a bad romcom before making up
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:15 am

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I do think we’d work well together though — I don’t think our styles are that similar, and I think we look for different things when getting reads. I think you would check my more negative tendencies (running off into my own thoughts on why someone is scum without having a solid base, whereas I think you may be too paranoid of people who are actively looking town and I think I handle paranoia like ~*reasoably*~ well)
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:23 am

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In post 1274, Gentleman 8 wrote:
In post 1265, Lady 5 wrote:I’m just a planet, standing in front of a prince
this seems physically impossible. i don't mean to offend but planets have no legs or feet

at least not the ones i know of. maybe i need to broaden my horizons
I’m inhabited, so I’m floating just, juuuuust above the ground so all the tiny little legs of the people are touching the ground — and they’re kind of part of me, it’s like a weird homeostasis thing but basically it counts as me standing, don’t worry about it
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #107) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:39 am

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I am worried it might damage them... maybe you could take me by one of the mountains or very tall structures that they built? They’re very fragile little beings, too squishy to be handled by others
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #108) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:09 am

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In post 1282, Gentleman 8 wrote:
lady 5, would you do me the honour of dancing with me?


please note: strict requirement is learning the hare hare yukai dance if you don't already know the moves

we would need to show up all the other couples
yesssssss ヽ(^◇^*)/

Floats slightly closer that Gentleman 8 can take me by the mountain and tallest tower


I do not know the hare hare yukai dance but I am very willing to learn it for you
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Post Post #1288 (isolation #109) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:11 am

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In post 1286, Lady 3 wrote:L1cry is townier than L5gaia and needs to be paired g8shadowpuppet. Like I get the logic of not wanting to put someone obvtown with the prince and feel like you lost lots of stuff to the nightkill, but like L2rosa pointed out if you put someone too scummy with the prince they can be left alive through intermission and need to be removed anyway.
Too late, he’s mine (∪ ◡ ∪)
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #110) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:12 am

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Also, is the implication here that you think I’m scum L3?
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #111) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:18 am

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In post 1292, Lady 3 wrote:Eh, I think if I sat down and tried to order people scum to town you wouldn't fall on the green side of median
Okay, can we talk about why?
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Post Post #1329 (isolation #112) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:12 am

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In post 1314, Lady 7 wrote:I could town case both of them relatively easy if I wanted to but right now they seem to be the best bet for flipping town/town. And if you asked me to gamble the game on a singular pair that would be my pick.
Could you do this? I think I’d like to see what my dance partner thinks about it
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #113) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:13 am

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In post 1317, Lady 3 wrote:l5.gaia just wanted something different out of this game than most people.
apparently planet earth roleplay
I don’t think this is true or an accurate characterisation of my play overall?
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #114) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:17 am

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L6 what do you think of L3?
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #115) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:17 am

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Same question L7
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Post Post #1342 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:34 am

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Okay, thanks

I’m not sure how I feel about L3, and I’m gonna wait until I hear more from her before I decide. I don’t really like her take of “the game was more fun when you were running it” or her suggestion that I just wanna roleplay as planet earth or that that’s the main thing I want out of the game

I also don’t know how I feel about her trying to swing the prince off me and onto L1, as I’m not sure about relative perceptions of our (mine and L1s) towninesa, and was thinking we were perceived quite similarly. Given that, I think the attempt to try to get G8 to pair L1 and not me is... odd, I guess. I don’t think it’s necessarily a scummy take, and that’s why I wanted her to elaborate on what she wasn’t seeing in me. Now that I am paired though, I agree that’s maybe not a good idea
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Post Post #1348 (isolation #117) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:48 am

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In post 1346, Lady 3 wrote:I think L7.blue accidentally played in a way that was not good for a very small subset of players and shouldn't feel bad about it. You can't make omelettes without breaking eggs or something
Right, which is what I said to her when I started trying to play again, and told her it was more of a me thing probably than something I was blaming on any of the players I listed
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Post Post #1349 (isolation #118) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:49 am

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In post 1347, Lady 3 wrote:L1 has a bunch of posts that seem really obvtown to me.
Okay, can you say which ones and why? Because I have L1 as town but not like, that strongly
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Post Post #1423 (isolation #119) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:09 am

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Hi, I’m not sure I’ll have that much time to play tonight but I wanted to dip in and say I would prefer that G2 love than G7 based on what I remember of both
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Post Post #1424 (isolation #120) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:10 am

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Wait no, how did I express that so badly

I mean I want G2 to stay, and G7 to leave

Sorry
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #121) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:14 am

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I also feel like just glancing at the last couple of pages he does care more than he’s letting on sort of, whereas G2 really doesn’t seem to care at all

Idk, it feels more studied from G7 and more natural from G2

Although I’m not sure either will necessarily flip scum
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #122) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:04 am

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In post 1438, Lady 3 wrote:If l4.salad and g4.tennis had different avis this would be such a different baseball game
Hrmm?
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #123) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:07 am

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In post 1407, Lady 1 wrote:I want you all to know I'm having a great time right now
I’m glad, me too now I have a dance with my handsome partner!
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #124) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 1387, Gentleman 4 wrote:Not really understanding what isn't a good idea and why it isn't a good idea.
The idea is that people shouldn’t talk about their reads on me now so that scum have to guess if I’m perceived as town or scum by the rest of the thread

In the case that they figure I’m perceived as town they probably just kill me and the prince

In the case they figure I’m scum, they *might* gambit on being able to get the prince to leave in order to kill me and leave me alive, and if they’re wrong on that gambit then the game is probably a win
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #125) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:15 am

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Regarding

I disagree that L2 scum is a good take based on the first 3 pages, tbh, and think L2 looks at worst null there.

Think I agree with your next two points.

Don’t understand the stuff about her phrasing being a counter factual in your final point?
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #126) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:16 am

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In post 1442, Lady 3 wrote:It's actually a principle that has surgical applications to other types of games but gets underrated and overlooked a lot.
Is this to me..?
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #127) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:19 am

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Oh, I was wondering if you were responding to my thing about the avis in which case I was gonna say that I thought you were overstating
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #128) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:25 am

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In post 1448, Lady 3 wrote:Can you name 2 other players who look scummy in the first two pages? Because I can't, but I could point at some townness, I think. So like that was my relative baseline
Not really, but I don’t think G1, G4, G6 or myself looked appreciably better (looking back now) and so the read is still a bit ?? considering that

I just don’t think L2 really looks scummy but to the extent she does I don’t see why L1 calls her out specifically as being lockscum or whatever

I don’t love L2 but I think I was somewhere in the middle, with the doubts coming later

Okay, I’m not too fussed about the avi thing
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Post Post #1453 (isolation #129) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:26 am

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In post 1450, Gentleman 8 wrote:
In post 1416, Gentleman 7 wrote:Oh yeah, great, the three of us get to be the town's entertainment in pre-dance and then we get lynched immediately since everyone will have a polarized and matured opinion of us by the start of the dance. Terrific.
given your previous avatar, i feel it is only appropriate to say the following...

dance, monkey! dance!
I’ve never seen anybody do the things you do before, G7!
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #130) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:28 am

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G8 I’m having some trouble with the arm movements in the hare hare yukai dance and was wondering if you have any ideas how I can simulate them given my globular form
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #131) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:30 am

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I’m actually super duper fucking buzzed for this game now (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #132) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:31 am

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In post 1456, Gentleman 8 wrote:if youre having trouble with that, youre in for a rough time when you start learning geddan (also mandatory)
One step at a time, right?
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Post Post #1461 (isolation #133) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:35 am

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Princely princeington, did you see L7’s post about why she thinks G3 and L6 are townie?
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #134) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:38 am

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I’d always go tackle
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #135) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 1464, Gentleman 8 wrote:no i am still like 15 paged behind, just skimming recent stuff and skipping the longer stuff. on my way to work

@lady 5
Okay, we can talk about it later then!
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #136) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:39 am

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I don’t see how it makes sense as credfarming either
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #137) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 1468, Lady 3 wrote:
In post 1465, Lady 5 wrote:I’d always go tackle
endgame pair
Who knew, I was worried pocketing you would be so much harder
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #138) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:46 am

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In post 1470, Lady 3 wrote:my paranoia is that g2 and g7 are way outside the PoE and shouldn't really matter that much and I'm suspicious of caring too much about the wallflowering because knowing their alignments are actually different is TMI but being right on it is something people might think makes them look good.
Okay idk if I’m being dumb or it’s just because I’m tired and sleepy rn but I don’t follow this at all, could you break it down for me?

Outside the PoE of what? Of scum? Because I don’t get that and I don’t think that’s what you’re saying

What’s wallflowering? And who is doing it/who’s caring about it (I assume L7 is the answer to the latter?)

And then the last sentence fragment I’m just totally lost
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Post Post #1479 (isolation #139) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:00 pm

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Ideas are free, you’re not stealing you’re just sharing with me <3
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #140) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:21 pm

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In post 1504, Lady 7 wrote:Would you guys like my read lists to be individual or as a group from here on out?
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #141) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:52 pm

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There once was a gentleman named 8
For whom my love would never abate
His rhymes were most good
I awaited our hood
I knew that feeling this way it must be fate
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #142) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 1521, Lady 3 wrote:eh no actually 5's is better
Thank you :3
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #143) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:06 pm

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I really respect yours for how committed you were to the Carlos Santana reference
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #144) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:41 am

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Hi Gent 1!

You’re paired with L7 who is pretty townie.

We’re waiting for G7 to be flipped and for first dance to begin.

G8 is the IC and I’m the very lucky lady who’s dancing with him.

The other pairs are G3/L6, G2/L4, G4/L2, G5/L8, L3/G9, G6/L1
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #145) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:47 am

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We need to find three pairs that we’re confident are town to be sure of winning, or two if we think scum haven’t danced with each other

I personally like G3/L6 for town but G8 doesn’t

I also quite like L3/G9 but L3 isn’t confident that her partner is town

I like G6 but G3 has a problem with him I think, L1 is broadly townread

I think your lady is very towny, I’m not sure about you but wasn’t really impressed by your predecessor — however, he *may* have townslipped so you’re a little above average

I don’t feel like L5/G8 are that towny but that may be because I haven’t had much talk with them recently. I think I preferred G5 from the last time I read them

I think G2 is quite likely to be town but I don’t like L4, about half the thread don’t like G2 I think and wanted him left out instead of G7

I don’t really townread G4 anymore and I think some people are but I don’t remember who. L2 is scumread by some but idk how I feel there

I think that’s as much as I can remember off the top of my head, did you have any questions?
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #146) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:48 am

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In post 1787, Lady 7 wrote:I am going to die.
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #147) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:50 am

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In post 1771, Lady 8 wrote:The strongest reads I can muster, incoming!! Number one, Earth Lady 5 is town. I think she did not have to gun for the IC, but she did, and I don't see any scum motivation in that. From what I can recall she wasn't being pressured into it at all and she had other options, but she reached out to Gent 8 herself.
Can I ask why you perceive this as being particularly townie, L8? And why is it significant that I went after the hand of my darling prince on my own initiative?
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #148) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 1791, Gentleman 4 wrote:I feel like scum would be more cautious about pairing with the IC because they might feel self conscious about staying alive too much. In the last dance, scum was paired with the IC, so it isn't that great reasoning.
Okay, only I kind of wanted to hear what L8 thought of this, not you :/
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #149) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:23 am

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In post 1796, FakeGod wrote:
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Gentleman 7, who was a
Vampire
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #150) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:25 am

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I’m no longer sure how I feel about L3
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #151) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:27 am

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Me, but I don’t see why that’s sus
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #152) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:27 am

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I also absolutely don’t think that this is clearing for you, btw
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #153) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:28 am

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I also dk if I should be saying this here or saving it for the PT?
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #154) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:28 am

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G2, G3, L6, thoughts?
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #155) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:31 am

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In post 1810, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 1803, Lady 5 wrote:Me, but I don’t see why that’s sus
More sus the players suggesting G7 be paired up over me.
Yes, although you’re suspicious too
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #156) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 1816, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 1812, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 1810, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 1803, Lady 5 wrote:Me, but I don’t see why that’s sus
More sus the players suggesting G7 be paired up over me.
Yes, although you’re suspicious too
I think L4 might be the more suspicious one here
I’m susp of G2 for a post in particular, hang on
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Post Post #1830 (isolation #157) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:36 am

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In post 1588, Gentleman 2 wrote:If I am going down this phase, G7/L4 should be our winning pair.
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #158) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:37 am

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L7 ur great and amazing and u did a fantastic job :) <3
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #159) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:38 am

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In post 1831, Lady 7 wrote:After he flipped scum what in particular is the angle of that post?
That he would bus his partner not try to set them up for endgame?
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #160) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:39 am

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In post 1833, Gentleman 4 wrote:Wait why is Lady 4 suspicious? It seems really dumb to bus in this setup and I feel like her progression to pick G2 was fine.
pedit: I don't think that post was to set anyone up, but just to try to make him look good.
The fact that if G2 flips town then G7/L4 is a very likely kick in first dance, whereas there’s more cred there from getting a scumflip and choosing “right”
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #161) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:40 am

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I have no idea why L6 is bad @G3
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #162) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:41 am

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In post 1836, Gentleman 4 wrote:Hm.
You're not explaining what is scummy about Lady 4 though. You are just explaining why kicking her partner might be better.
I just haven’t really been reading her as town throughout and I think I’ve been p open about that?

My point is less “this makes her scummier” and more “this absolutely shouldn’t be taken as clearing for her”
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Post Post #1840 (isolation #163) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 1838, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 1830, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 1588, Gentleman 2 wrote:If I am going down this phase, G7/L4 should be our winning pair.
If I would die and flip scum, what would be the point of posting that?
I’ve already said this, but the fact that maf wouldn’t push their partner here and would bus instead? Now that you and L7 say it I can see how this may be WIFOM territory tho
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #164) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:43 am

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In post 1809, Gentleman 3 wrote:Brilliant.

I think the main people to immediately look at to think about associations would be Lady 6, Gentleman 2, and Lady 4. Lady 6 obviously for the immediate and continued request to dance, and G2 and L4 for these comments respectively:
In post 1398, Gentleman 7 wrote:You can take G2 over me. The important thing is to identify the winning town-town pair. My survival isn't necessary.
In post 1410, Gentleman 7 wrote:
In post 1408, Gentleman 4 wrote:G7, why do you think letting G2 pair with L4 instead of you is better than letting yourself pair with L4?
Real answer? I invest a lot of time and effort into a game, and I don't trust L4 to keep us alive long enough for me to have an impact on the outcome even if she's town.
But like also idk, I don’t really like how you were like “oh yeah G7/L4 to endgame if I go” while G7 was suggesting he was perfectly happy for you to go over him? And like why does that make sense if he’s scum and you’re town?
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #165) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:44 am

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Why did you think G7/L4 should endgame at that point is probably the more pertinent question, G2?
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #166) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am

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If we need another for our hare hare yukai then I’m going to convince G8 to invite you to join us, L7
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #167) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:48 am

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In post 1846, Lady 7 wrote:I do intend to defend G2 whenever you are done talking to him L5.Gaia. I just want to give him his own space to show people he is town.
I don't see why scum ever make that post.
No, like I said, I’m not lockscum there or anything

L6 is prob right that the bigger reason to flip the pair would be L4

But there’s just something ~*off*~ about how they were reciprocally TRing each other when they should have been competing for L4’s hand?
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #168) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:49 am

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L8, I had a question for you from before the end of pre-dance, if you’d be so kind
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Post Post #1853 (isolation #169) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 1850, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 1844, Lady 5 wrote:Why did you think G7/L4 should endgame at that point is probably the more pertinent question, G2?
I was part of the "only town gentlemen are left atp" club.
Okay, but why did you think that?
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #170) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:50 am

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In post 1852, Lady 7 wrote:but I don't see why he needed to compete if he thought G7 was a stronger town player then himself.
Right, but why did he see G7 as town in the first place?
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #171) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:17 am

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G9 what do you think of L3 now?
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #172) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:25 am

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I really wish L2 was paired with G6 tbh :/
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Post Post #1903 (isolation #173) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:26 am

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In post 1898, Lady 7 wrote:I'll be honest I am starting to just think L2 is scum
Why? I think L2 is kinda town and agree with L6 that she looks better post-flip
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Post Post #1905 (isolation #174) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:29 am

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In post 1904, Lady 7 wrote:Someone had to have been busing?
Why?
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #175) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:30 am

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I’m not saying I disagree, necessarily, but I do wanna hear from you on why that has to be the case
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #176) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:31 am

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HURT: L3/G9

G8 is right that we should be pseudovoting and then the first pair who reach “threshold” should leave

Then we move onto the real thing
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #177) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:32 am

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I think L3 is wolfier than L1 and I guess I think that her take on L7 makes it more likely to me that her reads are bad this game than that she’s scum?
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #178) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:33 am

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In post 1913, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1911, Lady 5 wrote:HURT: L3/G9

G8 is right that we should be pseudovoting and then the first pair who reach “threshold” should leave

Then we move onto the real thing
What in the world why should we pseudo vote instead of using the actual vote count?
Shouldn't we just vote so we have vote counts to analyze in the late game.
If G8 wants to and is theoretically happy to do the VCs then I don’t see what’s wrong with just going with him here?
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #179) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:35 am

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I’m really null on both L8 and G5, like individually and as a pair, and I’d like to speak to you both more during this phase
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Post Post #1940 (isolation #180) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:42 am

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I’m so confused by L7 :lol:
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #181) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:47 am

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No, not by that

I mean I thought you were one person and then you did something that made me strongly think you were another person but now you’re not necessarily acting how I would expect that second person to behave

Your case is fine and it’s not an alignment doubt on you, just me going back and forth on your identity
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #182) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:48 am

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L7 are you deliberately trying to obscure your identity or not?
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #183) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:54 am

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In post 1942, Lady 8 wrote:Hi Miss Worldwide!

I'm not sure I agree with Lady 7 that scum are more likely to take the route of "You're wrong so I'm not listening". If I had to pick between Lady 1 and Gent 9 though, I think I lean towards Gent 9 being scum
Hi! Sorry, I don’t have like anything in particular I want to talk with you about yet and I don’t want to force it, more just like a general awareness that I haven’t sorted you much yet and that I need to do that

I don’t want to force myself to engage with you when I’m not genuinely interested in it (it’s just not my method really, I normally talk to everyone but in stages) but if you do have any questions for me or anything you’d like to discuss then ping me :)
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #184) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:56 am

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In post 1956, Lady 1 wrote:Gentleman 4 - Lady 2
Gentleman 2 - Lady 4
Gentleman 3 - Lady 6

are the only pairs I'll vote for at the moment.
Interesting, G3/L6, talk to me?
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #185) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 1957, Lady 7 wrote:I don't want to give any hints.
But I think you'd have trouble figuring me out so I wouldn't worry too much about it.

I am only sort of trying to hide my identity because I want the comfort in knowing when the rest of my reads flip town I don't need to out. :P
That’s fine, I don’t desperately want to as it goes against the spirit of the game, you’re more someone who I couldn’t help having two conflicting thoughts about despite not thinking about it actively.

I kinda don’t understand your final thing? Oh wait no, I just got it, you mean in postgame, yes?
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #186) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 1960, Lady 1 wrote:Every other pair you could make a case for end game to me and I might buy it. But I wouldn't be comfortable with any of these making end game.
Idk if I’d be comfortable with L3/G9 endgaming, but other than that I think I agree? Or like there’s a questionable person in each of the first two you lifted

I still think L6 is town. I think sorting G3 more thoroughly is a priority, I wouldn’t rule them out myself though
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #187) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:15 am

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L3 what started to shift your opinion on G9 towards town?
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #188) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 1971, Lady 3 wrote:since I'm going to oppose my own exile regardless of degree.
Err

Why?
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #189) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:27 am

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I’m ngl L3 we are a long way from a world where I’d be comfortable with you as an endgame pairing

Can you explain what went through your head on G7 as end of predance was unfolding?
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #190) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:32 am

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In post 1978, Gentleman 9 wrote:i plan to hash out domestic disputes in house
I’m like... not sure I like this from you two, as I have doubts on both of you independently and I think we’d all benefit from seeing you work through things publicly? I mean obv I cant stop you doing it that way if you want to, but my initial response is I’d like to see you two particularly engaging in public
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #191) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:42 am

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In post 1984, Lady 7 wrote:A storm is brewing, not the game literally just real life.
If I lose power and can't post for 10 minutes, remember I love all of you.

*hugs*
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #192) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 1993, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 1990, Lady 3 wrote:Ankamius
RIP
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Post Post #2003 (isolation #193) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:00 am

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Let’s not talk about alyssa because honestly I’m still not okay
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #194) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:57 am

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VOTE: L3-G9
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #195) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 am

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Goddamn why can’t G2/L2 and G4/L4 be a thing instead of what we have
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #196) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:00 am

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Okay L8 I think I’m ready to talk to you please hit me up next time you’re around!
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #197) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:22 am

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In post 2234, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 2230, Lady 5 wrote:VOTE: L3-G9
do you want to discuss this
I mean we can do, sure?

I just don’t really townread either of you
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #198) » Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:31 am

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Because I’m more uneasy with one than the other in each of your pairs — I think you’re kinda of towny, but I don’t really feel that G4 is

I think G2 is sort of townie, but not L4

I’d be fine getting rid of G4/L4 currently but I’m not fine with ditching you or G2
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Post Post #2645 (isolation #199) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:37 am

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Hi, I’m super behind now

Can someone catch me up on the main points that I’ve missed?
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