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Post Post #68 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:08 am

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I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either
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Post Post #74 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:19 am

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I do actually agree that the “townslip” itself isn’t very AI but Lady 7 seeing it as a townslip feels somewhat > rand town
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Post Post #77 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:25 am

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Aw I missed the pagetop
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Post Post #79 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:26 am

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idk I usually just ignore the setup tbh
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Post Post #86 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:31 am

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In post 80, Gentleman 9 wrote:is this where i ask you to dance
oh, good sir! (ノ*゜▽゜*)
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Post Post #93 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:33 am

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In post 89, Lady 1 wrote:When Lady 2 flips a dirty wolf I want my snapcredit bros
Is this a legitimate scumread?
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Post Post #107 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:38 am

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Gentleman 9 wrote:man being left on read hurts as much under the mask as irl l
I’m sorry I had to go find an appropriate emoji!!!!
In post 92, Gentleman 9 wrote:(´• ‸ •`✿)
ask lady 3 to dance
(๑•́ω•̀๑)
accept gentleman 9’s dance
(is this the right formatting????)
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Post Post #110 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:38 am

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I spent a really long time trying to find a good emoji ok
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Post Post #132 (isolation #8) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:45 am

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I guess I don’t really see why it matters that much who I’m paired with? Like VWW are going to try to get paired with town anyway, and if my partner happens to be VWW then oh well, it was going to happen to someone? Also I think it would be easier to determine alignments in the PT if he is VWW
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Post Post #136 (isolation #9) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:46 am

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how am I obvtown?
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Post Post #152 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:50 am

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In post 144, Gentleman 4 wrote:I sorta agree with L3 here. There seems to be a lot of sheeping this game where one person calls someone town and then lots of people quickly follow. This has happened with L7 and then L3.
? What are you agreeing with?
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Post Post #161 (isolation #11) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:53 am

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In post 157, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 132, Lady 3 wrote:I guess I don’t really see why it matters that much who I’m paired with? Like VWW are going to try to get paired with town anyway, and if my partner happens to be VWW then oh well, it was going to happen to someone? Also I think it would be easier to determine alignments in the PT if he is VWW
it's better to hold off because if we can pair strong consensus town with each other we have a greater chance of winning the game

if we pair off randomly to start and then oh it turns out all our strong town reads are paired with super scummy people

that's kind of an OOPS
Oh. Oops?
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Post Post #188 (isolation #12) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:59 am

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In post 164, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 161, Lady 3 wrote:
In post 157, Lady 6 wrote:
In post 132, Lady 3 wrote:I guess I don’t really see why it matters that much who I’m paired with? Like VWW are going to try to get paired with town anyway, and if my partner happens to be VWW then oh well, it was going to happen to someone? Also I think it would be easier to determine alignments in the PT if he is VWW
it's better to hold off because if we can pair strong consensus town with each other we have a greater chance of winning the game

if we pair off randomly to start and then oh it turns out all our strong town reads are paired with super scummy people

that's kind of an OOPS
Oh. Oops?
are you divorcing me (இ ˆ இ✿)
nooooooo!!! Can I even do that?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #13) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:12 am

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In post 191, Gentleman 9 wrote:i would like to dance with you l1 but my heart is taken even though she oops'd me
sorry </3 now you’re dancing with other people though?!
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Post Post #220 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 am

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I only “oops”ed because I didn’t realize early pairings were bad. don’t hate me :(
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Post Post #255 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 229, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 220, Lady 3 wrote:I only “oops”ed because I didn’t realize early pairings were bad. don’t hate me :(
gonna leave your ass at the dance floor as soon as dance 1 hits
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Post Post #279 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:41 am

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In post 277, Gentleman 1 wrote:L3.Misty, did you have any sort of read on your dance partner before accepting his proposal?
I thought it was pretty towny to just invite me to dance like that
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Post Post #282 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:47 am

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Okay, but also I think scum would be more likely to try look like they were forming reads and had a “reason” for their invitation?
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Post Post #285 (isolation #18) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:51 am

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jesus ok
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Post Post #287 (isolation #19) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:52 am

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it’s already done, so what do you want? The best I can do is try to solidify a read on my partner
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Post Post #314 (isolation #20) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 304, Gentleman 1 wrote:The answer wasn't no though, Yugioh man. I would've liked Lady Misty more if she said she was completely null on you and went for fun reasons. Her response though is pretty nully.
That wasn’t
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Post Post #319 (isolation #21) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 315, Gentleman 1 wrote:OK, why'd you accept?

Back flips aren't all I have up my sleeve btw. I'm saving a front flip for later.
promise you won’t laugh..?
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Post Post #325 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:18 am

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(okay but in all seriousness I have a real thing about needing acceptance and love and shit)
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #23) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:30 pm

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Hi all. Do I have a dance partner yet? Might be nice to know while I read up.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #24) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:33 pm

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I hope he doesn't have two left feet
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:13 pm

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I think it would be hasty to call anyone strongly already, but I would agree that Lady 7 is townpings

I think that if she’s scum then she’s mechanically hurting herself for a lot of towncred compensation, which is possible but it probably wouldn’t be my first step and I don’t think it would for that many other players if they rolled VWW either
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #26) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:17 pm

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I'm on page 3 but I expect to be caught up in the next 24h
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:29 pm

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it's a meme from page 3
I felt my participation was critical but I found out after posting that lillith already participated so the Lady 3 account is already Blessed
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #28) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:32 pm

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In post 1103, Lady 7 wrote:I am watching a bit of youtube before I got to bed.
I don't plan on reading back until the morning but my mafia addiction is keeping me up to date on posts so feel free to talk to me if you want.
wow narrowing your main down to people who use the website youtube do you even know how to play a secret alt game?!!!?!?!!?
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #29) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:38 pm

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In post 1177, Gentleman 9 wrote:Oh before I forget, I want to state that my (ex) partner I think towntold very early and I would be hard pressed to leave the dance anytime
I agree that's why I repped into the slot.
I'm on like page 5 I keep getting distracted.

Glad the thread isn't blowing up too much further.
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:30 pm

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I am surprised G5.boromir's L8.ghost proposal wasn't read as obvtown. Like... when I sift into it it seems like he had strategically irrelevant reasons for wanting to dance with her and came up with an explanation afterwards to rationalize it and overall it was probably bad play. But that's more likely to come from town, because the gamestate is less directed for town, it's easier for it to be like "all the factors are just tiebreakers" kind of feel to take over.

I don't think G5 faked his alignment independent crush on L8 so like only 1/7th of the time as scum would he get a crush on the optimal pick lady and talk himself into excuses for asking her to dance, but 8/8 times town!G5.boromir kind of ignores that some other lady would be a better pick and fools himself into the idea.
That's where I'm at on it
Townread that slot partner don't make me get an anullment
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:42 pm

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Sorry if you feel insulted
I think I'd be likely to do the same thing if I was a gentleman. The analysis isn't based on you being worse than other people it's just looking at some human biases I think exist and how they interact with the scum and town alignment (they exist for both but their strength is insufficient for the scum alignment where some pairing are more dramatically correct)
I'm only calling you human but that can still be insulting!
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:43 pm

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Lady8.ghost have you watched Corpse Bride
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #33) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 pm

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This game has so many pages to read why did I join this thing
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #34) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:14 pm

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In post 574, Lady 4 wrote:
In post 534, Lady 2 wrote:The sentiment still reads as pretty genuine to me?

Like even if you think you would do it as town, it's pretty ballsy to insta-accept as scum when you could potentially face heat for it as well as potentially end up with a scummy-looking partner.
That's just WIFOM because obviously it ended up getting her towncred instead
In post 535, Gentleman 1 wrote:
In post 531, Lady 4 wrote:I actually am leaning scum on L3. I think randomly accepting the dance and then vanishing doesn't make sense.
She posted for the next 4 hours after accepting. What do you mean by vanishing?
I lost her posts in the cloud then.
In post 547, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Lady 4 At this point, I am reading G1(Sans), G9, L2(Rosalina), L6(Seal), and L7(blue) as town. Everyone else I am still evaluating.
In post 548, Gentleman 5 wrote:
In post 547, Gentleman 4 wrote:@Lady 4 At this point, I am reading G1(Sans), G9, L2(Rosalina), L6(Seal), and L7(blue) as town. Everyone else I am still evaluating.
What are your thoughts on Me and Ghosty

I can see Rosalina 2 as town
Can both of you talk about Rosalina 2 because that's my strongest SR rn


Ok I love Lilith but she is smarter than that acceptance I agree with L5 that it looks bad.
Lilith doesn't get to defend her from this, I guess, but she said she was townreading G9.bananas and that makes it ideal play, town should generally pair with other townies. She only stated that once and stated the more ephemeral reasons more often but I think it's pretty key.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #35) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:14 pm

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*herself
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #36) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:56 pm

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In post 802, Gentleman 4 wrote:
In post 798, Gentleman 3 wrote:
In post 743, Lady 6 wrote:I would prefer Gent 7 left out over Gent 2 btw

I've been thinking about it and I think Gent 2 going after Tennis (G4) rather than searching for a partner on popping in is slightly more likely to be town than scum
I could agree with this.
I personally don't think it is townie to randomly call someone scum with no reasoning.
It's not protown, but it's town indicative
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #37) » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:59 pm

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In post 819, Gentleman 7 wrote:
In post 709, Lady 6 wrote:Gentleman 7, you should ask someone else to dance, I don't plan on accepting your invitation
No thanks. I'd rather die than invite anyone else but you.
I cracked up
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #38) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:31 am

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In post 954, Gentleman 8 wrote:there's no traffic in my kingdom

we spend all the money on balls, nothing to spare for building roads
I'm townreading this
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Post Post #1194 (isolation #39) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:43 am

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I'm on page 40

I'm nervous about this game maybe being a scum win.

Cause it seems like for the most part the most townreadable slots are like highly competent players who probably have a good scumrange.

I much prefer when there are narrow more singly dimensioned players who have towntold and are like very in their lane

maybe these people will just carry tho
l7.bluehair please carry moi
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Post Post #1195 (isolation #40) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:47 am

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I'm noticing a lot of the game isn't townreading my slot as much as it deserves, but I think g9.bananas is kind of scummy, so it's not the shame it would otherwise be. It's a shame this pairing occurred at all, though.
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:48 am

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In post 1016, Gentleman 8 wrote:i want gentleman 3 to figure out who i am and then look cool smoking a pipe while bragging about it
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:54 am

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Yknow people say secret alt games should be an equalizer for charisma, but like, I think the second time I play with a charismatic player I'm all like "be sure to look at what they're doing don't townread them on how you feel cause remember you kind of like this person", and in secret alt that goes away and you just townread them?
It's like the first time every time
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #43) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:55 am

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lol I was on the previous page and read like 4 posts after posting this and then bam the pagetop of the next page was this : viewtopic.php?p=12022050#p12022050
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #44) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:59 am

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Are mafia allowed to share their identities in the maf pt? Like I couldn't find the "secret alting in general" section in the rules, kind of annoying
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #45) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:00 am

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oooh what if you could post it in the dance PT
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #46) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:06 am

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g3.sherlock only posts townindicative crap and althunt brags
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #47) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:08 am

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In post 1107, Gentleman 5 wrote:
In post 1102, Lady 3 wrote:it's a meme from page 3
I felt my participation was critical but I found out after posting that lillith already participated so the Lady 3 account is already Blessed
Your participation is not
critical
; you're already paired up
this was about my participation in the meme btw, everyone reposted the meme over and over
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:19 am

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In post 1160, Gentleman 9 wrote:I want my old partner back :(
hurtful towards me
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #49) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:19 am

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In post 1160, Gentleman 9 wrote:I want my old partner back :(
hurtful towards me
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #50) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:23 am

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It's not gonna impress anyone but I favor leaving g7.gorilla out of the game. Yes he's antisurvivalist but also maybe he knows that and is playing into that. It's not something I feel confident reading.

I actually think G4.tennis is considerably more likely to flip scum but it'd benefit the gamestate less to remove him from the game quickly.

my mind is tempted to say "isn't it spicier to remove g6.bowler or g4.tennis and get information off who liked/disliked the exclude" but I think we are kind of just saving that information for later if those people are chosen for exiles
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #51) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:26 am

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I don't feel super articulate on what bothers me about g9.bananas. I'm also kind of probably prefer not to go ham on what's scummy about, fmpov my pairing is similar to the prince's pairing in not wanting to remove it early
I could argue I shouldn't have outed the scumread at all but I figure it's probably beneficial to be transparent in the long run
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #52) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:29 am

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He has 67 posts and I nullread 67 of them
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #53) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:36 am

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I scumread L2.rosa a lot early on but she keeps getting better over time, it's reached a point where I'd rather her go 2x2
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #54) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:08 am

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I don't understand why L4.salad is so widely townread

complaining that the game was too long to read was not town indicative, the way she dressed it as changing the structure of how she would solve only takes a modicum of scum competency to layer onto the frustration she'd have as both alignments with the readability of the game.
I can't remember anything else people tried to towncase her with just everyone is saying the slot is town
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #55) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:23 am

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G5.boromir why choose the IC to jam with
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #56) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:30 am

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I think it's unethical/out of spirit of the game to read every bit of a game you think you might rep into.

I just read lillith's iso and I guess my read on her is "real" so maybe that is unethical/break game spirit too but like it's my read on a slot I'm occupying so it seems inherently suspect and that seems less impactful
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #57) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:32 am

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I think "whoever's online" might skew the game, l5gaia maybe had a point. I don't townread her btw but I also don't know why (which is different from not feeling able to explay why)
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #58) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:34 am

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I townread a post or two from everybody except you and maybe g7.ape.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #59) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:37 am

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Actually I'm not sure if I've townread an l5 post. Low quantity at any rate.

For some reason from L5 the void feels less nerfarious

Pedit: I hard ship this pairing
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #60) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:58 am

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In post 1253, Lady 1 wrote:I can’t believe no one asked me to dance yet am I that ugly?
go and cry about it
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #61) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:12 am

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can confirm lilith is nicer than me, narrowing my main down to 98% of users
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #62) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:13 am

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I only bully you because I think you're town L1.cry <3
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Post Post #1272 (isolation #63) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:15 am

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Do you want to talk about your L6.seal townread L5.gaia? I have a spicy take that she is being scumread because of jarring expectation subversion caused by her avatar and that she's not that scummy. But I'm only finding a mediumish amount of things that look townshaped to me. So I'd like to hear
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #64) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:09 am

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L1cry is townier than L5gaia and needs to be paired g8shadowpuppet. Like I get the logic of not wanting to put someone obvtown with the prince and feel like you lost lots of stuff to the nightkill, but like L2rosa pointed out if you put someone too scummy with the prince they can be left alive through intermission and need to be removed anyway.
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #65) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:11 am

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The IC rand was the best possible IC rand I'm so glad we didn't get an IC with a weaker meme game

sadness pedit
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #66) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:13 am

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Eh, I think if I sat down and tried to order people scum to town you wouldn't fall on the green side of median
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #67) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:15 am

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Didn't think this game was going to be X-rated G8 publicly touching your tallest building with the same hands he was making wholesome shadowpuppets with, a little bit nauseated rn
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #68) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:24 am

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man I had some really good reasoning written up but a got peditted by L7.bluehair and she's pretty convincing
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #69) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:26 am

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In one of the dance games the IC's dance partner lurked and then the mafia killed the pairing because everyone's read was ??? so kind of the same thing
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #70) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:36 am

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That's no fun at all, I'm glad g8.shadowpuppet got IC instead of you, you clearly don't know how to play the role
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #71) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:38 am

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only true reads about l5.gaia
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #72) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:40 am

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L7.blue hair makes both super town indicative and super scum indicative posts and it's stressful
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #73) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:43 am

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Like asking to die

saying you don't think you'll reach endgame

the latter bothered me because even if your main has a high misexile rate, which isn't my first intuition anyway, you should be contemplating potential town sweeps
unless you already know the whole scumteam and know it has a blastoise and a gyarados
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Post Post #1310 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:47 am

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I also felt you reasoning for wanting to pair with g1.sans felt just a bit off and just a bit stilted, I could buy that you'd consider him but not that you would push it as soon as you did given how much you've publicly identified ideal strategies, and that makes me think you have a reduced number of potential dance partners because of a co-ed scumteam
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:48 am

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Also I googled septem and I didn't get anything so your location is a lie and I'm just super put out about it okay
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:59 am

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you were controlling the game in a way that made it funner to read
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:00 am

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l5.gaia just wanted something different out of this game than most people.
apparently planet earth roleplay
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:01 am

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why was seeing your townreads pair up demotivating? if you mean with eachother that should be good?
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:06 am

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In post 1319, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 1155, Gentleman 9 wrote:Can someone remind me who started spreading paranoia on L8ghost scum
This is kind of a weird way to put it. The possibility has always been there.
g9.bananas is trying to remember g3.steampunk's scumcase on him

if you share a love of l8ghost you should date g3.steampunk
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #80) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:08 am

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I'm really hard to read and everyone would agree
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Post Post #1324 (isolation #81) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:08 am

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I'm really hard to read and everyone would agree
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:09 am

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This is because I'm a bottom tier mafia player
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:10 am

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In post 1322, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 1208, Lady 3 wrote:I actually think G4.tennis is considerably more likely to flip scum but it'd benefit the gamestate less to remove him from the game quickly.
What does this mean and can you explain the read?
I like to leave people alive if they are likely to play in a manner that might change my mind, or if they will catch scum before I mistakenly kill them.
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Post Post #1328 (isolation #84) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:12 am

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I probably started scumreading G4.tennis back when he opposed the townreads on lilith's early play and maybe everything after that has been confbias

plus the avatar is uggo
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #85) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:14 am

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In post 1327, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 1224, Lady 3 wrote:I don't understand why L4.salad is so widely townread
I think the way L4 interacted with me wrt her scumread on me was fairly towny, because she still maintained that the read existed even though she couldn't explain it. As scum she probably could have come up with anything more concrete, or else she could have just dropped the read when she realized she couldn't justify it.

In general doubling down when something is pointed out that makes you look bad is towny.
idk you have a pretty slender iso I actually think it could be scum caught in a shitpush that was calling people scum at RNG and went "shit"

saying "oh actually i don't scumread you because I have no reasons" looks WAY worse
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #86) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 108, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 85, Lady 6 wrote:I'm scum reading G6 if that's more exciting for you
This is very exciting, now this game is starting to get going.
Not caring whether the read is correct and caring about game momentum matched how I felt and I think is a natural town take
In post 119, Lady 7 wrote:The "scum wouldn't pair up that easily" I guess literally applies to L3.Misty. But I don't even feel slightly good about G9 so I am not even sure why that matters?
This is a tad frustrating way to start of the game!
I could quote lots of things but the way L7.blue responds to suboptimal play in general seems like the way town would. A certain hamperedness by knowing that player being spoken to is possibly a teammate. Whereas sometimes it's an opening for scum to know they're on the right side of something and get a bit bolder about winning arguments and stuff.
In post 367, Lady 7 wrote:L8.Ghost is by a good margin the towniest Lady in the game.
This post didn't seem to benefit L7.bluescum, even if (especially if?) LeightGhost is scum. It just drew attention in a game where L7.blue was way over quota for participation
In post 429, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 422, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 415, Gentleman 1 wrote:I proposed to L7.Blue because she was the towniest and she feels like a partner I can solve with
blue lady 7 literally said that she's not gonna solve with anyone in the PT, sans
I'll be honest this was a lie after I thought about it.
As I'll likely already town read the person I am paired up with I won't have a reason to aggressively try and sort them.
Scum would do an equal nothing to sort a professed scumread they've been paired with or a professed townread they've been paired with and I think this is cognitively somewhat difficult to fake.



just skimming and grabbing stuffs
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Post Post #1345 (isolation #87) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:37 am

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In post 1336, Lady 2 wrote:
In post 1326, Lady 3 wrote:I like to leave people alive if they are likely to play in a manner that might change my mind, or if they will catch scum before I mistakenly kill them.
Makes sense.

If G4's posts are all null then why isn't your read on him null?
You are paradoxically more likely to flip a player as scum if you feel very null about everything they do versus if you get both townpings and scumpings from them, even if the scumpings is slightly more.
This is from experiences in games but also more so hearing 1-2 strong players state this thesis based on their experience in games so I'm gonna go with it until I've disproven it from myself.
I don't know why it is that way
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:42 am

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In post 1342, Lady 5 wrote:Okay, thanks

I’m not sure how I feel about L3, and I’m gonna wait until I hear more from her before I decide. I don’t really like her take of “the game was more fun when you were running it” or her suggestion that I just wanna roleplay as planet earth or that that’s the main thing I want out of the game

I also don’t know how I feel about her trying to swing the prince off me and onto L1, as I’m not sure about relative perceptions of our (mine and L1s) towninesa, and was thinking we were perceived quite similarly. Given that, I think the attempt to try to get G8 to pair L1 and not me is... odd, I guess. I don’t think it’s necessarily a scummy take, and that’s why I wanted her to elaborate on what she wasn’t seeing in me. Now that I am paired though, I agree that’s maybe not a good idea
I was being facetious. I think you're here to play mafia as much as I am, maybe more than I am if I remember any water pokemon that I like.
I think L7.blue accidentally played in a way that was not good for a very small subset of players and shouldn't feel bad about it. You can't make omelettes without breaking eggs or something
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:46 am

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In post 1342, Lady 5 wrote:Okay, thanks

I’m not sure how I feel about L3, and I’m gonna wait until I hear more from her before I decide. I don’t really like her take of “the game was more fun when you were running it” or her suggestion that I just wanna roleplay as planet earth or that that’s the main thing I want out of the game

I also don’t know how I feel about her trying to swing the prince off me and onto L1, as I’m not sure about relative perceptions of our (mine and L1s) towninesa, and was thinking we were perceived quite similarly. Given that, I think the attempt to try to get G8 to pair L1 and not me is... odd, I guess. I don’t think it’s necessarily a scummy take, and that’s why I wanted her to elaborate on what she wasn’t seeing in me. Now that I am paired though, I agree that’s maybe not a good idea
I don't have to comment on your alignment to say that L1 has a bunch of posts that seem really obvtown to me. FMPOV I'm going to expect he to continue townspewing in pre-dance because I'm interpreting it as an expression of her alignment (which she will be quick to tell you is wolf princess I guess)
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Post Post #1350 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:03 am

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In post 89, Lady 1 wrote:When Lady 2 flips a dirty wolf I want my snapcredit bros
I really liked coming away from the first 88 pages with this though l2rosa has improved since
In post 186, Lady 1 wrote:I would like all the Gentleman to say they want to dance with me even if it's a lie.
pedit: Both of you seem very competent and a lot more serious than the rest of the thread and that kind of style always makes me think deepwolf. More a me thing than either of you but I'd probably vote you guys at one point if I ran out of wolf reads. Assuming I am not left to die in the first dance
There's more gentleman than ladies and the pairing strategy chats l7.blue speculated about would make cry realize this so it's a townslip or fake townslip (low difficulty fake townslip to be fair)
In post 206, Lady 1 wrote:Oh no how can I pretend to have the best reads if everyone pushes back against me. This is horrible
This is such a bizarre post but I think you can't write it as scum? "the best reads" is a weird way to approach paradigms for the game if she was actually shitpushing townies and getting shot down.
In post 990, Lady 1 wrote:Yes townread me more you fools. I cannot wait to win this game as a wolf.
The way this is phrased is really weird to me and seems like it's actually a counterfactual. I think other wording edge this out on a vampire rand, like "I cannot wait for this wolf win" or something.
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Post Post #1354 (isolation #91) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:21 am

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dae feel like L1.cry g6.bowler is a depressing pairing


yes it is a bowler not a top hat, get a real haberdasher if you want a top hat
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #92) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:25 am

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G2 come write your proposal
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:38 am

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In post 1358, Lady 2 wrote:I haven't accepted G4 yet, but I feel like I've waited long enough for anyone who wanted to voice an objection.

Gentleman 4, I graciously accept your offer to dance.
I objected!
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:43 am

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I suggested 2-2 at some point although l7.blue is convincing that that's a bad idea, just now.

Maybe I will like g4tennis as much as I like you one day
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:45 am

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My new secondary objective this game is to make L7.blue wanna stay active onsite
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:35 am

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I'm going to expel you first in dance1 because you didn't tell me if you've watched corpse bride
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:42 am

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I'm willing to reconsider you g4tennis especially because you have a good date
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:45 am

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L8.ghost is forgiven
I haven't watched corpse bride in over ten years because it was so good I decided I shouldn't watch it again
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Post Post #1395 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:51 am

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You're nowhere near my level I don't even know these 2 obvious people

If I tried to figure anyone out I'd just get stressed and I'm not really sure my read accuracy goes up when I know someone's account, I think I'm more likely to gambler's fallacy against the alignment they rolled last and stuff
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:04 am

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reachy maybe but
If G7.bandana was anticipating expressing disinterest in pre-dance and leaving pre-dance, how likely would he be to go to the trouble of modifying his avatar.
Maybe he was anticipating LAMISTing into dance 1 instead?
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:05 am

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People who do those kinds of tactics can still be town I guess though.

G7.bandanna is probably still the best save
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Post Post #1429 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:17 am

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In post 1425, Lady 7 wrote:G7's current thoughts don't feel consistent with his earlier play.
If the game was as simple as a single town town pair he wouldn't deem predance worthless as that would be the only phase that actually matters.

I want him dead.
As much as I enjoyed your starry eyed optimism at the open of the game, it's pretty possible g7.bandana just has the requisite cynicism to realize town isn't going to properly leash the setup; never do.

You all merely adapted to that cynicism I was BORN INTO IT fufufufufufu
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:19 am

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G7.bandana what is your read of L2.rosa?
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:38 am

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Well, that the dying G7.bandana's contributions don't go in vain, think of it this way, is 4-7 or 4-2 more likely to be a gamewinning endgame pair?

I think it's distantly possible G7.bandana does crazy redonkulous shizz in first in second dance that overcomes even the valid points you're making about his attitude.

I don't think G2.shades ever shows enough of his hand or develops enough of his "hm, odd call for scum" pokes to reach candidacy for it
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Post Post #1434 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:48 am

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What do you mean, are you cosigning my ?
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:04 am

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If l4.salad and g4.tennis had different avis this would be such a different baseball game
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #107) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:15 am

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It's actually a principle that has surgical applications to other types of games but gets underrated and overlooked a lot.
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #108) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:18 am

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is an addendum to which is kind of an ELI5 for G4.tennis so 1442 is essentially "for" G4.tennis, I guess
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #109) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:20 am

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In post 1443, Lady 5 wrote:Regarding

I disagree that L2 scum is a good take based on the first 3 pages, tbh, and think L2 looks at worst null there.

Think I agree with your next two points.

Don’t understand the stuff about her phrasing being a counter factual in your final point?
Can you name 2 other players who look scummy in the first two pages? Because I can't, but I could point at some townness, I think. So like that was my relative baseline

I don't know if I can explain the last point better and I'm not even sure if it's valid but for some reason it's the kind of thing I get excited about
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #110) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:34 am

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why spend so much time dunking on a slot that's not long for this world anyways
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #111) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:37 am

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I am getting paranoid about it being a credfarming exercise so let's argue about something different, when you choose Squirtle rather than bulbasaur or charmander do you like to use tail whip during the first battle or do you like to use tackle during the first battle? There are no wrong answers aside from scratch or growl indicating you messed up
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #112) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 1465, Lady 5 wrote:I’d always go tackle
endgame pair
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #113) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:42 am

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my paranoia is that g2 and g7 are way outside the PoE and shouldn't really matter that much and I'm suspicious of caring too much about the wallflowering because knowing their alignments are actually different is TMI but being right on it is something people might think makes them look good.
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Post Post #1472 (isolation #114) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:43 am

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In post 1469, Gentleman 8 wrote:i feel like lady 3 is biased towards water pokemon for some reason... hmm
My Starmie is a psychic type I am a total and complete generalist I'll have you know
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Post Post #1477 (isolation #115) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:50 am

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In post 1476, Lady 7 wrote:L3.Misty I just don't understand what you suggest I talk about right now and what things going on in the thread I haven't done?
I guess I could compile a read list in the predance phase, that's the only productive use of time I can think of.
I immediately suggested what you talk about right now, do you even read my posts? This is why lady5gaia is townier than you
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:01 pm

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Post Post #1481 (isolation #117) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 1475, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1470, Lady 3 wrote:my paranoia is that g2 and g7 are way outside the PoE and shouldn't really matter that much and I'm suspicious of caring too much about the wallflowering because knowing their alignments are actually different is TMI but being right on it is something people might think makes them look good.
If someone engages me on something I am going to reply and it's also the last thing we need to resolve before the dance.
I understand your concern but I also think your going to come up with bad reads overall using this logic given the nature of it being the last available pair.

It's kind of the only thing to talk about really outside things we have to deal with later.
A wallflower is a person at a dance leaning against the wall who no one has asked to dance. That is a wallflower.
G7.bandana is going to become a wallflower.
I verbed a noun
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #118) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:04 pm

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If you don't learn the hare hare yukai you might become a wallflower. I will try to teach Starmie, that matches a similar difficulty, then maybe once I've figured it out I can help you
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Post Post #1488 (isolation #119) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:26 pm

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In post 1486, Lady 2 wrote:I still think it was right though because G4 seems like someone I'll be able to read pretty confidently with enough time.
What do you think about L7.bluehair saying he's a hard read?
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Post Post #1491 (isolation #120) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:32 pm

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In post 1489, Lady 1 wrote:I believe I am the hardest slot to read due to my alluring posting and complex motives.

I think G2 and G7 should make 1 final post each or something along those lines and then we move on. This is dragging on in circles.
The main issue is actually that L4.salad prefers g2.shades but he does not have an outstanding offer to her
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #121) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:33 pm

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I can't read any types of players :( except newbtowns
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #122) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 1509, Gentleman 8 wrote:please write a limerick or a haiku, whichever you prefer, on each of your reads lady 7

i'll start you off

there once was a gentleman named 4
whose posts i do abhor
i see not a single good stance
but he still gets to dance?
i currently wish to make him no more
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #123) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:53 pm

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That tells me nothing about your alignment.
Good job.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #124) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:00 pm

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There once was a man named banana,
with vibes near as bad as bandana,
i guess I'm his date
it's a bit less than great
fuck bieber; more carlos santana
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #125) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:01 pm

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you gotta get the meter right you guys aren't tryharding on the syllable micromanaging bits

my partner's is one of the more decent ones rhythmically surprisingly
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Post Post #1521 (isolation #126) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:02 pm

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eh no actually 5's is better
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #127) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 1523, Lady 5 wrote:I really respect yours for how committed you were to the Carlos Santana reference
The song is about how you have ocean waves on the surface of yourself and that makes you physically attractive to G8. It's one of Carlos Santana's more literal works.
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #128) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:13 pm

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it felt like you were trying keep at it l6.seal
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Post Post #1530 (isolation #129) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:17 pm

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g9.bananas do you townread this slot based on the first four pages or how lilith acted after accepting?

Have I shaken your read of the slot as it has for.. I think only one somebody thought I'm a downgrade.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #130) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:19 pm

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that was low effort
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #131) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:20 pm

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In post 1529, Lady 7 wrote:It's ok L3 said everyone sucked at poems except for the 2 people that weren't me ;-;

Only hurt a little bit.
I'm sorru
L6 is probably even worse if that makes you feel better
uh wait how do i stop being toxic
L6.dewgong has even more room for improvement than you do
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Post Post #1545 (isolation #132) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 1536, Lady 7 wrote:This mafia game is giving me false hope by actually being really fun.
Does this mean I'm accomplishing my secondary objective? :3
In post 1538, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 1530, Lady 3 wrote:g9.bananas do you townread this slot based on the first four pages or how lilith acted after accepting?

Have I shaken your read of the slot as it has for.. I think only one somebody thought I'm a downgrade.
i dont think you're a downgrade? nor have my reads shaken in anyway (if anything strengthened imo)

based on how l3misty acted after accepting
that could be a bad thing I might need to feel sorted if I need to correctly townread you in f6 or f4 or something.
How about when dance starts pretend I reranded my alignment
In post 1540, Gentleman 3 wrote:There once was a darling Miss Seal
Who gentlemen pursued with a zeal
In came a Detective
With a different perspective
And the Lady's heart he did steal.
This is what the good poems look like everyone pay attention
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #133) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:32 pm

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In post 1542, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1501, Lady 4 wrote:
In post 1484, Gentleman 4 wrote:
In post 1471, Lady 4 wrote:Yeah and what's a good way to secure the pair? AtE and defeatism
Well it clearly isn't working...
Would be nice to hear something from Gentleman 2.
Really still not seeing L3 towniness
I can't get past the fact that Lilith is way better than to accept that dance so fast
If Lilith is as good as you say?
Would she make such a grave mistake?
Rushing the dance phase.
Was certainly a mistake.
But not one scum Lilith would make.
There's a poet in you after all
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #134) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:33 pm

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did you do what I thought you did there?
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #135) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:34 pm

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I'm 90% sure you did

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Post Post #1559 (isolation #136) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:44 pm

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If you're sure she is scum offer her a dance and leave her immediately, otherwise we have to wait until the pre-dance deadline and town tends to win more of the games that are faster paced on average
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #137) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 1561, Gentleman 2 wrote:I lean town on the fact she wasn't pushed to pair as soon as possible, but I want to know how you all feel about her.
I
I can't right now
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #138) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:51 pm

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I dunno why this game is so fun,
Perchance half the solving's undone,
But g3 is town, l1 is a clown, g7 can dance with the sun.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #139) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:52 pm

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D-do you like it?
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #140) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:58 pm

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Is it wrong that I townread that a lil bit
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Post Post #1593 (isolation #141) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:48 pm

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In post 1589, Gentleman 8 wrote:
In post 1578, Gentleman 8 wrote:could i get an idea of 2 non-me pairs people want to see live until endgame btw?

even if you've recently stated it and even if it might change pending flips/first dance/etc, just looking for a rough idea of the consensus at the moment
maybe i needed larger rainbow text to draw more attention

hmm

this was a general question for everyone if it weren't apparent
boromir ghost detective dewgong
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #142) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:53 pm

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Is anyone going to point out that G2.shades did not actually ask for a dance and the game might be stalled further
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #143) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:54 pm

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L8.haunter is adorbs
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Post Post #1603 (isolation #144) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 1601, Gentleman 2 wrote:
In post 1596, Lady 3 wrote:Is anyone going to point out that G2.shades did not actually ask for a dance and the game might be stalled further
It didn't count?
To be on the safe side I think you should bold a request for her to dance with you even if your intent is clear
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #145) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 1604, Gentleman 8 wrote:i wasn't really asking who you think other people think are town

if you think your partner is town, that would obviously be one of the endgame pairs youd want (from your pov)

lady 3 leaving out her own pair is understandable since she is not so confident on her partner

there's not much point leaving out your own pairing if you are confident in your read though

*shrug*
My answer is the same because g9.bananas is so meh
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Post Post #1607 (isolation #146) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:04 pm

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He has upgraded to meh with his poetry skills
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #147) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:33 pm

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G9.bananas is more important to figure out than me but I get twice the airtime
Maybe I post too much though
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Post Post #1623 (isolation #148) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:44 pm

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In post 1620, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1619, Lady 3 wrote:G9.bananas is more important to figure out than me but I get twice the airtime
Maybe I post too much though
Can you overtake me so I can feel less self-conscious about this topic?

I feel you though I am just waiting so I can sort G1.sans a bit more, I still think he is town and I can't scum read the slot for not being here when they repped out. But it is something I am eager to do, although I can see why no one wants to sub into a 70 page game.
That sounds like a good way to achieve my secondary objective so I'll go for it.
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #149) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:44 pm

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I think that post was scum indicative in addition to being hilarious

But I am only certain it is hilarious
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #150) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:55 pm

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i can buy the cars and the clothes and work it until I have a beach body but no matter what happens in my life I will never have that fairy tale g5l8 romance ever
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Post Post #1667 (isolation #151) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:59 pm

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In post 1664, Gentleman 8 wrote:btw, i havent read any of the theory crap regarding this setup, but first dance phase should basically be a pseudovoting a couple, asking one of them to voluntarily leave when it reaches pesudovote threshold (9 players at the beginning), then continuing with real voting after that (assuming this can be done in a timely manner)
Could you explain what you view as an advantage over real voting?
Fear of lolhammerers? Then like, no one vote past E2 and demand a leave with 2 intents. Gotta get some labor out of that FakeGod feller
In post 1666, Gentleman 6 wrote:Gentleman 3 - Lady 3
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I'm pretty sure if I remember right you designated Gentleman 6 as a comod? please correct the pairings so that this is the way things are thanks so much
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #152) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:02 pm

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I townread you but not L8.haunter, how does that make you feel boromir
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Post Post #1678 (isolation #153) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:08 pm

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This playerlist is fun I'm kidnapping all of you after the game
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #154) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:08 pm

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I have GREAT BALLS!
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Post Post #1681 (isolation #155) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:09 pm

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I wanted to be even more threatening than that... but they don't sell ultra balls in cerulean city... it's just too rural you know..
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #156) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 1682, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1677, Gentleman 5 wrote:This game is challenging, there are a lot of people who feel like town
Eventually we have to bite the bullet and say who can be faking what they are doing.
Unfortunately that's the only way to win these kind of games even if it hurts to be wrong when someone is playing reasonably townie.
I found the faker
In post 235, Gentleman 9 wrote:
In post 233, Lady 7 wrote:How do we determine who is and isn't a strong player in a game full of secret alts?
i am faker irl
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #157) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:14 pm

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you misread my post
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Post Post #1696 (isolation #158) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 1688, Gentleman 5 wrote:Even so, haven't you been expressing that you've thought it was Lady 7 for a while now?
That's my heartsong not my headsong and that's just for my pick among the players who are maybe fooling
me
not the whole game, the kind of player I think is doing the "right" things to fool the game at large is g4.tennis but he isn't even way popular anymore which hopefully means I was right.
I usually want to trust my headsong. It stuck with me a bunch when l2rosa said that if I townread a bunch of things from a player they're probably town and that's a characteristic of L7. Like, in reality, you actually don't usually hard townread a large number of things from highly proficient scum players. They just somehow convince you you want to be doing something else with your life besides vote them.

But it's all moot because G1.sans is scummier than rand imo. Weird setup is weird.
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #159) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:33 pm

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is true, town-indicative, and depressing and I would like to Disable it
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #160) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:40 pm

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In post 1704, Lady 1 wrote:
In post 1701, Lady 3 wrote: is true, town-indicative, and depressing and I would like to Disable it
Nothing in 1689 is town indicative and It makes me feel even more confident in the way people are reading gent 3. It's worrisome.
It's one of his least town-indicative posts, and the intent of my post was rather clearly not focused on the post's alignment spew.
This is kind of a chapter in my rising concern that the reason all your reads are anti consensus is because the consensus reads are just your loss condition based on the PT link you got
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #161) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:53 pm

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I'm so outclassed by all the players, maybe even by Lady1
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #162) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:02 pm

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Ok i will try
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #163) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:27 pm

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I didn't know l7blue was townreading g5boromir

was it always that way?

if I influenced even one person with my opening posts i'd be ecstatic
but I thought I remember him being read by people as like 10 nulls 2 towns 1 scumread

In a way it is more confident for me than anything else I think I've figured out this game
I think
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #164) » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:31 pm

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Why is it obvious I'm town?
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #165) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:17 am

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In post 1771, Lady 8 wrote:Number one, Earth Lady 5 is town.
YOU HAD ONE JOB


THE FIRST RULE OF SAFFRON CITY FIGHTING DOJO IS DON'T TALK ABOUT SAFFRON CITY FIGHTING DOJO.
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #166) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:30 am

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LOL HE EVEN GAVE ME TWO PTs
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #167) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:31 am

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As much as I would love to dance with g3 I don't want to cheat and exploit this mafia game, pls people not on their phones bold text at fakegod
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Post Post #1965 (isolation #168) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 1757, Lady 3 wrote:Why is it obvious I'm town?
Isn't this a classic scumtell?
I've not heard of that, but I have located scum pocketers who were unable to compellingly explain a townread on me.
It sounds like a fundamentally bad thesis since you'll be less curious about why you are being townread, since you know exactly what kind of artificial sweeteners you put into your posts to prompt the response. It only seems like a scumtell if lots of scum do it to put towncases into the thread and fuel the development of an UTR on the slot, but that's so far from how I play scum.
I know we're not outing mains, but I think you can imagine how certain players would play scum on a cold read, sometimes.
In post 1864, Lady 7 wrote:I mean L3.Misty lost a lot of credit for that flip.
In hindsight I really hate the post she made where she said G7.Vampire should be kept alive because he is a higher ceiling for "looking town".

Felt like a way to try and win me over to saving him all while not committing to a town read on the slot.
I think L3 is more likely town then not but I don't feel half as good about it as before I saw the flip.
I was still advocating the most logical strategy. You only get a told-you-so that I wasn't if this game ends with a T-T G2-L4 standing and I really still don't see that happening.
In post 1869, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 1868, Lady 4 wrote:
In post 1864, Lady 7 wrote:I mean L3.Misty lost a lot of credit for that flip.
In hindsight I really hate the post she made where she said G7.Vampire should be kept alive because he is a higher ceiling for "looking town".

Felt like a way to try and win me over to saving him all while not committing to a town read on the slot.
I think L3 is more likely town then not but I don't feel half as good about it as before I saw the flip.
Why still say she's town if you're so shaken by that post earlier?
It's a singular point and I have to think it through.
I also scum read G9 still and they can't both be scum, that just isn't possible.

I think it's more likely L3 made a mistake and G9 is just a wolf then the other way around.

Like 1 post against someone and multiple points in favour of them I am still going to lean town but I also can't lock them as town anymore.
Not a mistake, I hope you're never a poker player who tries to review whether your decisions were good after seeing the cards
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In post 1887, Gentleman 4 wrote:
In post 1882, Gentleman 2 wrote:I'm TWTBAWing Lady 1 though.
You probably shouldn't. I have no doubt that a scum Lady 1 open wolfs and calls herself wolf.
In that case:

VOTE: L1-G6
Yeah this is the treasure I was going to throw away with my awful advice about wallflower preference lol
In post 1915, Lady 5 wrote:I think L3 is wolfier than L1 and I guess I think that her take on L7 makes it more likely to me that her reads are bad this game than that she’s scum?
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Post Post #1969 (isolation #169) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:13 am

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I strongly think the best way to play dance1 is to vote out pairs where both halves of the pairing seem more likely than null to flip scum. I think this is much more effective than voting pairs where one player seems very, very scummy, and the other partner is nullish or townish. Two guess are just much stronger than one and read confidence is this weird emotional thing that doesn't correlate well to the actual percentages, when it is 3:7 someone who is 34% likely to be scum due to your reads feels twice as exciting as someone who is 33% likely to be scum, and stuff. Which works fine for setting up a PoE order in Normal queue but is bad in this setup and closely interlinked with leave-your-partner-gamethrows that have happened when this setup was run in the past.

It might sound convenient for me to say since some people townread my slot, but I think it's not that convenient since no one hard scumreads my partner except l7.blue (and maybe me lol).
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Post Post #1971 (isolation #170) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:17 am

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G9 is scummy, I'll try not to say how scummy nor NK reasons since I'm going to oppose my own exile regardless of degree. But G9 has does nothing this game yet to change my mind.
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Post Post #1972 (isolation #171) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:17 am

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*for
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #172) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:21 am

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I envision this game having lots of universe where I leave g9 in f4 but if he can somehow show a town alignment in a way that outweighs his sins my pair can maybe potentially be final pair.

It's kind of hard to clearly explain my own views of the strategy of the setup and how that layers across how I'm reading g9.bananas, but to what extent it makes me sound scummy, that's less a shame because my pairing getting voted out isn't
bad


maybe that's why this game is so fun for me, it's like even lower stakes than a VT game, I feel about 30% jester. It's like something even more carefree on the spectrum from godfather>goon>doctor>vt->misty
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #173) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1973, Lady 5 wrote:
In post 1971, Lady 3 wrote:since I'm going to oppose my own exile regardless of degree.
Err

Why?
I'm not scumreading both halves of my pairing, view my previous post.

If I was unable to identify any pairing where I was scumreading both halves of the pairing, maybe I'd leave, but that shouldn't happen this phase.
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Post Post #1976 (isolation #174) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:24 am

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I'll make nagito a summary if there is some form of evidence he's actually going to play this game.
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #175) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:41 am

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In post 1977, Lady 5 wrote:I’m ngl L3 we are a long way from a world where I’d be comfortable with you as an endgame pairing

Can you explain what went through your head on G7 as end of predance was unfolding?
I don't think it's an underdeveloped topic?

If it helps you any I'm a disciple of the Ankamius thesis that D1 scumflips can lose you the game if it doesn't produce information the right way. A wagon on G7 during dance1 could have been more valuable than his wallflowering. Especially as we'd be analyzing a wagon on a player who is playing the game rather than a man who is fascinated with fashionability but mostly isn't.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #176) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:09 am

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G1.Nagito I made you a pokedex to summarize the game
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #177) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 2028, Lady 4 wrote:L3 I have not been powertunneling you lol
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For comparison L7 is seven hits.
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #178) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:33 am

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thanks for the correction I don't really remember all the replacements perfectly

It's ideal to judge people on current play and g6.bowler always gives me bad vibes
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #179) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:36 am

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No, because I remember what they are, they are generally rejecting townreads on my slot or shading my slot. I'm not going to check them and find out five of them are calling anything I've done scum indicative.

"This is obvscum" and "I don't think this can be townbinned" have identical meanings in certain contexts and this is a context where I prefer to call it tunneling
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #180) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:37 am

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*town indicative
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Post Post #2051 (isolation #181) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 2045, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 2043, Gentleman 1 wrote:Also can someone answer my question about whether callbacks to the last anonymous dance are common?
People referencing past dances are only G6.Anime Sherlock and L1.Cry.
No one else has done it as far as I know outside absurdly general and basic information.
p sure I did once
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #182) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:36 pm

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The length of dance 1 is measured by players remaining, not by whether the change occured by votes or leave, so the pseudovoting is dumb

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Incidentally while rereading the rules I realized you can just afk for 8 days and give scum less information about how to perform the nightkill, then perform all the game's exiles in second dance. It's similar to no-voting in a 4p MeLo and forcing the mafia to remove an uncleared player. The downside is having 8 days to play the game instead of 16 but the playerlist is so fast that's probably not a problem. The bigger issue is needing to actually wait 8 days, it would probably harm game momentum enough that realistically the gains on how the nightkill was shifted aren't worth it.
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #183) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:44 pm

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I guess because my frame of reference is L4.salad being scum which tends to exonerate G2.shades. I guess it doesn't actually, since all three of those players could be scum, but that's not how my mind was working. When you're puzzling it out you want there to be town in there.

If you want it to be a scumslip, then I want to see you go hard before you read the room, town!you shouldn't need to.
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Post Post #2065 (isolation #184) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 2057, Gentleman 4 wrote:Outside of this game, I would probably agree with what you're saying, but I also think my pairing fits this metric and I believe we're both town.
Well when you admit it's the best policy, then it will probably be widely adopted, so why don't you try to reach a state where a member of your pair is townreadable?
I recommend making your partner look good, that's fancier.
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #185) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:45 pm

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UTR = Universal Town Read
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #186) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:48 pm

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I've never heard of Under The Radar being acronymized
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #187) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:49 pm

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In post 2080, Lady 7 wrote:
In post 2074, Gentleman 8 wrote:if it were me, i'd be asking "where do you get off saying i have the charisma of a bowl of sour cream?"

she didn't exactly say that word for word, but it was more or less the implication
What did sour cream ever do to you?

So guys I ended up taking a nap at 9pm, which really should just be deep sleep but my lights were on and I didn't tell anyone in my house I was going to bed. So hopefully the goal is I play a bit of mafia, get tired again, and sleep soon.

In practice see you guys for another 30 pages.
so much detail, pretty sure your main is someone who does not sleep and you are fighting to convince G3.sherlock that he does not actually have a correct guess on who your main is
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #188) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:51 pm

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geez I won't use it again, I've never even heard the other one
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Post Post #2089 (isolation #189) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:56 pm

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It's the back shot of Milotic from when you're using Milotic in battle on your team. Since your avatar is not facing the view it seemed more appropriate.

Slowbro is also touching his head and Slowking is royalty. It's okay that you two are related
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Post Post #2091 (isolation #190) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:59 pm

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I picked the pokemon to represent all of you of of all the ones that there are, I noticed a pattern, that none of them are ghost types, but that's not too strange to be a coincidence I think I did a good job
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #191) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:59 pm

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I feel like I want to queue for any mafia games Lady 2 is queued for but I don't know that she's town :(
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Post Post #2107 (isolation #192) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:18 pm

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ur 2 good for g4.tennis
I didn't express it clearly enough tho
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #193) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:32 pm

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In post 2116, Gentleman 5 wrote:
In post 2113, Gentleman 8 wrote:t b h if i were a scum lady (and i swear i'm not but i can understand if people don't trust me), i would have been worried about how long i'd have survived with gentleman 7 as my partner, so i wouldn't give anyone any real points for not partnering with him

partnering with him would have been like trying to patch the holes in the titanic with some sticky tape. might have just barely slowed down the sinking of the ship, maybe? probably not
Yes

I don't think Gent 7 was saveable by scum pairing with him

Scum were hoping he'd manage to pair with town.
I'm not envisioning G7.bandana being cooperative in his scum PT
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #194) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:51 pm

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L2Rosa's really getting to me
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #195) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:08 pm

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In post 2131, Lady 8 wrote:Like in a bad way?

I like her rationale towards trusting Gent 4, as town that's something that would probably be at the top of her mind. I don't hate her point that he hasn't played in a way that 'tryhards' getting to end game, with his choice of lady and general playstyle
good scary way, starmomma's too persuasive
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #196) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:25 pm

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VOTE: Lady 4
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #197) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:27 pm

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I'm worried about whether I'm omgussing but also G2 being very much a question mark and quietly voting for the easiest exile makes me shiver
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #198) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:40 pm

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I feel sorry you aren't enjoying the game more g2.shades
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Lady 3
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #199) » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:41 pm

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The enemy's low! Get 'em Starmie!
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