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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:21 am

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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:25 am

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the food is very nice, thank you short lady!
also you have a cool voice, your shout was ringing in my ears for ages after
and i have a lot of ears

i don't trust the hat, what's he doing in Purgatory anyway, don't you need a soul or something to be up (down?) here?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:26 am

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In post 13, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm the tracker. Word321 targeted (INSERT DEAD TOWNIE HERE) last night. We should eliminate him.
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i knew word was bad before the guilty even came out
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:49 am

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Post Post #25 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:49 am

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In post 21, Isis wrote:
I need to know if you're kidding or not about your guessing skilz.
Cause uh my readrate is etto really bad on Hectic right now, like really bad, and I would kind of like to policy heaven that.
if it means you'll policy heaven me then i am obviously Hectic friend : )
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Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:04 am

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In post 27, Isis wrote:
In post 25, Cthylla wrote:
In post 21, Isis wrote:
I need to know if you're kidding or not about your guessing skilz.
Cause uh my readrate is etto really bad on Hectic right now, like really bad, and I would kind of like to policy heaven that.
if it means you'll policy heaven me then i am obviously Hectic friend : )
Historically towns playing this setup that have heavened scum early have won, so you shouldn't be smiley if you're town. That's what I was part of last time.

Does this mean I actually finished a game without you playing in it or spectating it, Hectic?
really ??? that's surprising
is that cuz of flip and associations?
obv heavening town and helling scum is better EV though ...
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Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:06 am

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In post 28, Hayasaka wrote:Hello boys and girls, it is I, Hayasaka and I am here to play o7
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In post 29, Isis wrote:
Hectic wanna see a cute waifu magic card I spent all my birthday money on
yes i do
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:10 am

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Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:15 am

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In post 35, Isis wrote:
In post 31, Cthylla wrote:
In post 27, Isis wrote:
In post 25, Cthylla wrote:
In post 21, Isis wrote:
I need to know if you're kidding or not about your guessing skilz.
Cause uh my readrate is etto really bad on Hectic right now, like really bad, and I would kind of like to policy heaven that.
if it means you'll policy heaven me then i am obviously Hectic friend : )
Historically towns playing this setup that have heavened scum early have won, so you shouldn't be smiley if you're town. That's what I was part of last time.

Does this mean I actually finished a game without you playing in it or spectating it, Hectic?
really ??? that's surprising
is that cuz of flip and associations?
obv heavening town and helling scum is better EV though ...
Getting associatives from the scum you were townreading the most literally never happens in games of mafia. It is very unique. Most people target scummy players with cops. It's easy to underrate and it goes beyond the EV in its value in making a solve
I mean if I didn't have the data I'd think it can't possibly even break even but the data has kind of added up
interesting ! !
i'll pm the mod about this to double check

EE is demonic btw cuz sniping alts is a slight scumtell
just something ez to talk about and demons will care less about the person wanting to keep identity hidden cuz they're not thinking of that they're just thinking of how they look

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Post Post #41 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:16 am

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SORRY *demontell
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Post Post #45 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:21 am

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loool
i hope she brings you much happiness
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Post Post #48 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:22 am

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what do you think of my demonread EE
pretty impressive right
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Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:11 am

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i love being the decider in 3p lylo Isis
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Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:19 am

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say hello to my minion, destroyer of worlds

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Post Post #104 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:31 pm

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In post 100, Isis wrote:
I have a macro, I type "pnk" and hit ctrl+spacebar for the front and do "knp" for the back. It's a google chrome extension. If I show you how do make your posts looks like green crayons in 5 keystrokes will you forgive me?
what's the extension?
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Post Post #106 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:34 pm

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if i write like this will you all worship me ? :=)
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Post Post #109 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:42 pm

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VOTE: Green Crayons

don't like his entrance
agreeing with Hayasaka on a questionable theory
voting Isis for disliking her font
the theory is bad because Isis's entrance isn't different from her norm
also people post for fun
like Isis entered like this in her last game of achievement hunting
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Post Post #111 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:55 pm

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i agree
Hayasaka is cool for it
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Post Post #112 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:56 pm

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In post 101, Isis wrote:
I don't think we are focusing enough discussion on how amazing Hectic's kitty is
careful now, Miso will devour your soul

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Post Post #115 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:00 pm

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Green Crayons has played with Isis before !
the "happy with my vote" bit i didn't like
don't know why but maybe cuz it feels like he's putting unreasonable confidence in something which doesn't warrant it?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:05 pm

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Norwee + Green Crayons + Isis is the page 5 power solve <: )

In post 46, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Isis you just ignored my question in favour of talking about cards. WHY is your text Purply?
this looks like a fake interaction


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Post Post #127 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:39 pm

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i am now Enlightened

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Post Post #129 (isolation #22) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:44 pm

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In post 40, Cthylla wrote:interesting ! !
i'll pm the mod about this to double check
i have an update on this !!! Morning said she couldn't comment

does that mean we might be on to something and she's afraid of spilling the beans? :thinking:
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Post Post #130 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:46 pm

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sorry about that shade of red, i think this is better
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Post Post #135 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:11 pm

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In post 133, word321 wrote:I like cats
Ur fonts look horrible in sepia
Maybe Ill get used to it

But lets get the ball roling
Has anyone played on this setup before?
Are there any strategies regarding this? As mafia and as town

Since there are no PRs, I guess a lot of traditional strategy is discarded here
i think as demons you want to try and send townies to hell and demons to heaven
as town you want to send townies to heaven and demons to hell
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Post Post #137 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 3:06 pm

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In post 21, Isis wrote:
I need to know if you're kidding or not about your guessing skilz.
Cause uh my readrate is etto really bad on Hectic right now, like really bad, and I would kind of like to policy heaven that.
is this even tru?
when have you misread me other than reservoir dogs
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Post Post #178 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:37 pm

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In post 142, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Chtylla you seem a bit more confident than ususl. Is it because you are an eldritch abomination for whom human emotions are an foreign concept. Or does it have to do with me FINALLY seeing something new about you based on rand?
i am omniscient
of course i'm confident about the TRUTH
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Post Post #179 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:40 pm

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In post 139, Isis wrote:
Man it's hard to do tallies cause of the alts, I think I scumleaned you incorrectly in most of Marked for Death, not sure, and then I read you correctly in Chiptune, unless I didn't spectate enough of the game and you were actually scum, who knows, I sure don't.
when you put it like that then yeah
Fusion and Chiptune
i was town in Chiptine : )
hammered Churros and then Alora and Churros got mad at me post game for taking too long to decide on 5p lylo
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Post Post #180 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:46 pm

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Walter and Hayasaka are my top townreads
very cool people
Isis has towny things and demonic things
Dannflor seems alright but he seemed alright in Apocalypse and he was a demon
got a Norwee read on Norwee
Green Crayons is off
word feels a little disingenuous in his opening
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Post Post #183 (isolation #29) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:02 am

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In post 179, Cthylla wrote:
In post 139, Isis wrote:
Man it's hard to do tallies cause of the alts, I think I scumleaned you incorrectly in most of Marked for Death, not sure, and then I read you correctly in Chiptune, unless I didn't spectate enough of the game and you were actually scum, who knows, I sure don't.
when you put it like that then yeah
Fusion and Chiptune
i was town in Chiptine : )
hammered Churros and then Alora and Churros got mad at me post game for taking too long to decide on 5p lylo
good times
also mask of monsters
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Post Post #184 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:03 am

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In post 182, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Body snatch has been successful, they don't suspect a thing.
i'm used to your avatars going through this cycle of ones i've seen before
this new one is confusing me
will it be added to the cycle?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #31) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:12 am

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clidd is an angelread

EE you've seen me gimmick all the time
eg posting like i learnt English from a llama as Hoctac in that large game
and then i got killed N1 lol
or posting with anime reaction images as Hel
i could go on

you really think the change in style could be scum-indicative?
sorry ! this just gets to me soemtimes because some people like Titus scumread me in every game because they see a change in playstyle and associate that with me being scum
it's a sigh ?_?
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Post Post #221 (isolation #32) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:45 am

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i change playstyle and gimmick across alts
sureness of reads are part of playstyle and i have plenty of town and scum games where i act very sure about reads
and also plenty where i act or am unsure about them
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Post Post #222 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:46 am

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good morning! o9
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Post Post #223 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:47 am

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could you point towards where i seemed sure of my reads here EE?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:52 am

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this is a big part of the reason i secret alt btw
not because i have any meta tells - i don't think i do or no one's found one as far as i'm aware
but just because people see someone they've played with before acting differently from the previous game where that person was town, and assume that means they're scum
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Post Post #227 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:54 am

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In post 224, Hayasaka wrote:
In post 221, Cthylla wrote:
i change playstyle and gimmick across alts
sureness of reads are part of playstyle and i have plenty of town and scum games where i act very sure about reads
and also plenty where i act or am unsure about them
I sort of understand this, this account has a functioN as well although it's not completely clear unless I told you what it was. Although to some degree I disagree with the notion of "faking confidence" since so many levels of mafia tend to get lost while playing over text I feel like that is something that should be preserved. But I guess it wasn't your choice to out so there isn't much you could have done about this.
i haven't faked any confidence in this game fwiw
which is why i'm interested as to where EE is even getting those feels
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Post Post #228 (isolation #37) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:55 am

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In post 226, NorwegianboyEE wrote:"Acting" sure about reads isn’t something i’d consider townie at all.
right
you've ignored all i've said and latched onto that
not a good look for you

i haven't acted sure of my reads this game
where do you think i have?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:08 am

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don't like his entrance
is a very safe opening post where you vote and joke around with someone you know and have played with before
it's an easy way for scum to enter the game by using familiarity as a foothold
i learnt this scumtell from insomnia when he used it successfully on me

is a lil shady as well because the first two lines kinda feel like he's forcing those comments out for the sake of them(?)
and the open mech question is slightly scummy because it's not asking about something specific which could be helpful
it's just a very open ended question designed to look helpful

i'll have a confidence meter at the bottom of any reads for your benefit Norwee
i'm just a generous guy like that

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Post Post #233 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:10 am

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In post 231, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also, Clidd?
Clidd is an angel
mindmelded with his thoughts on Green Crayon's mechposts
and his tone is free and towny
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Post Post #234 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:11 am

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ALMOST forgot the confidence metre

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Post Post #235 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:13 am

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wait i think my confidence metre is skewed too far to the right
i'll redo those

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Post Post #244 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:48 am

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VOTE: Word

Pedit: you sniped me, this is probably L-1
let's be civilised here
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Post Post #246 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:51 am

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VOTE: Green Crayons
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Post Post #262 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:46 am

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In post 257, clidd wrote:I feel that his text structure is unnatural and that he is trying hard not to reveal typing strokes that could confirm connection with another account (isn't scummy, but don't give me a good feeling).

I want to pressure word now, otherwise I would vote him.
my main's been outed clidd
it's Hectic
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Post Post #263 (isolation #45) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 260, clidd wrote:I believe that the last thing Scum!GC would like was an early 1v1, so returning to the subject indicates persistence in what you said, increasing the chance of being content that you believe to be true and is not being understood in the way you wanted.
why do you think this?
have you played with or seen Green Crayons before?
a 1v1 isn't all bad for scum
in general others often wind up townreading both parties
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Post Post #265 (isolation #46) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:56 am

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lol well I can't do that, it'd be breaking the rules
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Post Post #266 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:57 am

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why don't I look like Hectic?
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Post Post #270 (isolation #48) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:11 am

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In post 268, clidd wrote:
In post 266, Cthylla wrote:
why don't I look like Hectic?
You don't seem to be flowing naturally in your texts (my personal view).
the way i'm writing is intentional
i'm writing such that every time i have a new thought i write it down on the next line
so if i ever stop typing to think basically, when i next start typing, it'll be on the next line
so you can kinda see my thoughts form in order
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Post Post #273 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:22 am

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i agree with his take on mech discussions and his initial mechpost isn't scummy at all actually now that i look at it again
doesn't mean any of that discussion is town-indicative though
just NAI
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Post Post #274 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:22 am

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: )
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Post Post #289 (isolation #51) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:43 am

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he can think you're wrong or show frustration as scum as well clidd
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Post Post #313 (isolation #52) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:52 pm

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I think you're WAY overthinking the Hayasaka situation, and why can Hayasaka not be scum with Isis specifically, but not me?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #53) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:35 pm

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clidd
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Dannflor
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word321

I unlocked 1/8000th of my true power level to make this list of reads

I changed my mind on Walter's questions about heavening being towny
I thought he wouldn't do it as a demon because the questions look bad but he thinks it's important regardless, but that's silly, he could easily think they look helpful as a demon
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Post Post #318 (isolation #54) » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 315, word321 wrote:Isis also had more direct interaction with Hayasaca (from my biased point of view), albeit it can be faked. None of this associations r solid yet, oc.
"also" implies you have another reason to think Isis isn't aligned with Hayasaka - what is it?

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Post Post #388 (isolation #55) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:09 am

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Word is really demonic
I disagree with almost all of his takes in his readlist in , and I think he tried to buddy people with the "Isis is cool even though I think she's scum" or the "don't have a read on Cthylla but seems like a nice guy/gal"

and are also scum-indicative because of the use of the word "genuinely"
Gives me the feeling he genuinely did do those specific things, despite the fact he's scum
Also, the Isis read is really fabricated in particular
Think this flips scum, so why not pull the trigger

Sorry, bud, see you in the next life

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Post Post #390 (isolation #56) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:10 am

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Imagine all of that was in a cool green colour v)
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Post Post #405 (isolation #57) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:08 am

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In post 394, Isis wrote:
Hmm

That maybe have been more decisive than I would have preferred

Cythlla, would you ever lolhammer a partner for the bonus credz?
never done so before but probably yes if I can justify it well
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Post Post #408 (isolation #58) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:29 am

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i too am now an anime
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Post Post #410 (isolation #59) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:33 am

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testing out greens that won't burn the iris


testing out greens that won't burn the iris


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Post Post #414 (isolation #60) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:50 am

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Isis is very town if word flips scum, they're interactions don't look like SvS at all
if word flips town, she's a ~~~~~~~townlean~~~~~~~~
oh i should use the confidence metre:


Isis Confidence Metre

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i think she's been towny but there's one thing that she's been doing that could mean she's demonic
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Post Post #415 (isolation #61) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:53 am

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In post 329, Hayasaka wrote:For the sake of the alt, let's say I am not experienced with Hectic
we've played twice before!
I was Legolass and rekt you in the achievement race
also I was in the Chef hydra in Trust Fall
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Post Post #417 (isolation #62) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:58 am

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In post 416, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 415, Cthylla wrote:I was Legolass and rekt you in the achievement race
You got pocketed hard in that game Cthylla. And then rekt by scum.
Achievements aren't everything.
!!! i thought you were both towny because you were solving and felt outside your scumrange
but now i know
you will be BoPed to oblivion
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Post Post #419 (isolation #63) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:02 am

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Hayasaka Ascension Metre

DEMONIC<<<<<<<<<<
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Hayasaka Confidence Metre

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Narset entered in a towny way
leaving her vote on me while talking about demony things going on elsewhere may be a demonic disconnect
overall her tone is townish though
not a confident read
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Post Post #420 (isolation #64) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:02 am

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In post 418, Isis wrote:
y u no answer clidd about Narset?
I was rereading her
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Post Post #428 (isolation #65) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:58 am

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but i see both scummy and towny things about people clidd
but try and put an overall weight into the read rather than fencesit
you're all so 3-dimensional <3

nothing compared to me of course - i live in the 9th dimension
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Post Post #483 (isolation #66) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:22 am

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Post Post #484 (isolation #67) » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:23 am

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excellent flavour Morning, I am fully immersed in this world
I'll read up on the events later
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Post Post #528 (isolation #68) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:58 am

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I think Green Crayons is a demon for his readlist, will go into it when I'm free later
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Post Post #580 (isolation #69) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:37 pm

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I'm really tired right now
Green Crayons's read list has inconsistencies and weird thought processes but I need to quote stuff to point out why they're scummy and wrong
I'll get to it tomorrow

looks like I'm the consensus demonread which feels really strange, guess this posting style isn't one to use again
although I have been fairly lazy in content the last couple of days, and the lolhammer was certainly not my finest moment
maybe I can change the course of this ship, I have faith
I will come in tomorrow with a renewed vigor and plenty of eldritch horror GIFs
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Post Post #581 (isolation #70) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:45 pm

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clidd I'm afraid you're not going to see an emotional reaction for me if that's what you're looking for
I know you love signs of frustration or anger, and often associate it with town
and if I were scum here, I would maybe even be inclined to fake some to get you to like me more
flashbacks to the game I was scum which included Ame and Doro, and your townread on me because I made a typo while energetically arguing with Ame

but anyway I'm town and I don't think I'll be showing any of that naturally
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Post Post #589 (isolation #71) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 581, Cthylla wrote:
I'll try my best to show you my towny heart tomorrow, clidd, just you wait
for now, I am calling it a night
I want to have a mafia dream
Ame is always talking about having those, where the players take material forms and I'm jealous
wish me luck
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Post Post #590 (isolation #72) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 589, Cthylla wrote:
In post 581, Cthylla wrote:
I wanted to utilise my trademark shade of spoilered green while on mobile
which is why that post and this one are inside this quote
do not be alarmed
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Post Post #592 (isolation #73) » Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:50 pm

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Well, I opened the thread again and have to reply to this
I don't see getting mishelled as a failure, it is all in good fun and the concept of mafia relies on town getting demonread and purged by other town or it wouldn't work
I'm not normally under this much suspicion though, especially so early on, so naturally I was thinking about reasons for it
My writing style might be one, since some pointed out that it appeared as fake or forced
If that's the case, I'm not going to be volunteerily using it again, because even if getting mishelled every so often is fine, it's had for your wincon and playing the game for longer is more fun, so it is something on my mind
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Post Post #623 (isolation #74) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:16 am

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I'm back. I'm gonna reread the whole game and give my thoughts as they come.
In post 17, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Floortile, i like the way you think. Hectic is always trustworthy.
Calling out my alt is demon-indicative. Datisi did the same thing in Smuggler's Port, I think demons are less likely to care. I summed it up earlier.
In post 21, Isis wrote:
I need to know if you're kidding or not about your guessing skilz.
Cause uh my readrate is etto really bad on Hectic right now, like really bad, and I would kind of like to policy heaven that.
Wanting to policy heaven someone who have a bad read rate on is weird. Why not policy hell today? It has the advantage of seeing my flip earlier.
In post 24, Cthylla wrote:S̫̞̫͢T̟͝A̕Y̛̖ ͙̳̭̰̫I͔̬Ń͓̤̜͕ Y̳̣ͅO̼̣͝U͠R͉̺̖͉͇̼ ̝̠͍̣͝P̢͉͚͇̤ͅL̥̙̜͓A̖̲̥̗C̡̪̙E͍͈.̸̞͙̠͈ ̞̼͟M͏̗̭̯͚͖O̤̠̣͢R͍̰͈̯͓̻̩T̮̲͍ĄL͙ͅS̲̟̘̣͙̮͞.̱̤̗̤ ͎̟̼T͖̞̝̮̯͔̱Ḩ̟͖̞̘̜E̡̫̮̺̙͇ H̜̝̯̝̝͍͝I̧͕V̰̘̠̻̺E͓̳̟͙ ̘ͅM͏̘͍͚̻̻I̼̩N̤̰̞͎̺̦̬D͈̘͚̜̼͠ ̝O͓̲͢F͈̮̹̲ ̦̣͇̣͇C̵̩͈̗̲̹̩͎H҉̗͎̮̲̫̺ͅA̤̰͙̱̫̻̮O̸̺͎̖S ͝W̭̰̣͍̗̠͚I̪̼̹̮͔͍̜L̝̯̱̩̼L̫͕̤̳̣ͅ E̶Ṋ̴̖̹̬C͖OM̘̟͠P̷̳A̦̠̤̝̜̭͞S҉̦̞̤S̸̜̙̻̯ ̺̗͓̀À̦̩L̲̟̯̬̯̳͉L̲͜ ͚̗̩̰͇A͍̠̗ND̜͓̹̦̣͇̀ H͍̼̖̪̖Ę ̡W̦Í͉̱̥̣͚̯L̮̱̣͎L̸ A̦̙̙W̭̳͇̲̙͕A̷K͕̮̮͖͠E͈̘͇̬N͚̻͙̪͢ Ó͔͓͉Ǹ̪͍̞̟̞͙͔C̘̻E ̧̦͔̞̯̖̱̯M͓̻̬͉̩̪̲O̫͢ͅR̸̼̞̹̠É̖͉̻.̢͙̰͙̺͔
Very cool text here. This guy's probably an angel.
In post 27, Isis wrote:Does this mean I actually finished a game without you playing in it or spectating it, Hectic?
I have actually read parts of the previous Purgatory, but only because I was really impressed by Ame's effort and play as scum.
In post 28, Hayasaka wrote:Hello boys and girls, it is I, Hayasaka and I am here to play o7
I finally know who you are! You've tried and it didn't work before, but you can have your wish of purging me now. You get it???
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Post Post #624 (isolation #75) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:19 am

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In post 29, Isis wrote:
Hectic wanna see a cute waifu magic card I spent all my birthday money on
In post 117, Isis wrote:
The Chrome extension is here. The company also has an extension for Hectic's idiosyncratic preferred browser, here.
Our previous game:
In post 1431, Isis wrote:Is pocketing Hectic a good strat? for some reason I never do that
The thing I was thinking could be demon-indicative from Isis early on was this. I got the feeling this was the game she tried to pocket me as a demon early on.
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Post Post #627 (isolation #76) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:27 am

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In post 46, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Isis you just ignored my question in favour of talking about cards. WHY is your text Purply?
Demonic post. Unless he's very hurt at being ignored, he's implying Isis was ignoring his alignment-indicative question. Which it absolutely is not.
In post 55, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:3 people in rvs on norboy.
That seems strange, what did he do?
Demonic post. RVS is RVS, a wagon of 3 isn't unusual. My vote on Norwee (the third) however had reasons attached, so why is he asking?
In post 58, Hayasaka wrote:I should really play the game though as happy as I am to see Isis order my favorite card and would love to stay off topic.
I think one of Isis or Cthylla is scum here, I think scum have the most incentive to open up the game with this much presence.

Similarly to the way scum tend to open up theme games strongly because they spent time getting hyped up already. I think scum would look and see their win con involves getting sent to heaven and would promptly decide to open up the game like this to try and achieve an early pocket.
I'm lost on this now. On one hand, it's towny because Hayasaka is thinking about how scum would want to enter this game, yet on the other hand is it not something you want to keep to yourself for a bit longer, to see how active people remain, and considering a couple hadn't even posted by this point, so many not have realised the game had begun? It's not as towny as I originally thought for the latter logic.
In post 64, Isis wrote:
Spoiler: Moderator question, do not open unless you are Morning Tweet
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Pandora says thank you for modding <3
Pocketing the mod so that they're less kind to town in granting deadline extensions is a common scum strat. I'm onto you.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #77) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:38 am

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In post 82, Hayasaka wrote:I think your energy is headed into way too many OOG posts for me to be able to think you are trying to actually pocket anyone.
Don't get this.
In post 85, Cthylla wrote:say hello to my minion, destroyer of worlds

Spoiler:
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Very cool. Townlocking this.
In post 93, Green Crayons wrote:VOTE: Isis

I am, quite literally, compelled to skim your posts because of that typeface(?), font(?), whatever choice.
Demonic. I don't think he's faking the irritation at the font, but consciously voting someone for it is weird. Green Crayons is good enough to know it doesn't make Isis a demon, and from what I've seen of him from the nightless game, he's a very intelligent and reasonable player, who pushed people for reasons that actually make them scum. Demon!Crayons is voting Isis here because he thinks it'll make him look good.
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I don't think we are focusing enough discussion on how amazing Hectic's kitty is
Again with the unwarranted attacks. Calling my eater of universes a "kitty" is blasphemous.

Dannflor has some towny posts when asking me about Green Crayons.
In post 116, Cthylla wrote:Norwee + Green Crayons + Isis is the page 5 power solve <: )
Not a bad solve. Should we sheep this guy? He gives me paragon vibes.
In post 124, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 115, Cthylla wrote:
Green Crayons has played with Isis before !
the "happy with my vote" bit i didn't like
don't know why but maybe cuz it feels like he's putting unreasonable confidence in something which doesn't warrant it?
i should know isis's early game play from playing one game with her = dumb take

also lol i forgot how she entered that game, and also it's not comparable to here so = double dumb take

"happy with my vote" as in, i'm happy to take hay's theory down the Isis chute in responding to why hay wanted to go the Cth route
You should know Isis memes as town, given you played very recently with her = good take.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #78) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:47 am

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In post 126, Isis wrote:
Hay is a terrible nickname for Hayasaka and I am going to call her Narset until she asks me to stop which might be immediately
Agree.

(I know some of these posts and responses are to NAI stuff, but I'm trying to keep myself entertained)
In post 128, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 118, Isis wrote:
My entrance in Green Crayons's game is beautiful and deserves to be linked, I broke my new main in by trying to roleplay some weird cross site newbie.

I think knowing my meta or not GC's entrance seems scummier than rand, that perception is colored by Krazy bitching about my font on Purg1 as an excuse not to read my content. I don't think that's far from what GC did here. I posted like, a read and a half already, I think.
the black background is legitimately hard to read on my phone. it hurts my eyes.

i switched to my laptop for this game.
The word "legitimately" is demonic here, but I thought Word was demonic for using "genuinely", and we saw how that ended.
In post 142, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Chtylla you seem a bit more confident than ususl. Is it because you are an eldritch abomination for whom human emotions are an foreign concept. Or does it have to do with me FINALLY seeing something new about you based on rand?
I don't, and Norwee even pointed out later that I had similarly "confident" tone as Hel - it's just my regular tone probably. Wonder where he got the feeling from in the first place then.
In post 152, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Yeah, that is a good point.
It serves both win conditions.
Something to consider for heaven phase,
Do we send a more town read person or do we send a less town read person?
Actually this answer could be affected on flip of H1 so yeah.
@ Everyone
Would you attempt during the first heaven phase to send a mostly town person or a lesser town read person?

Pedit that is interesting.
This and following posts from Walter are quite demonic. His response times to Norwee are very long, like he's carefully formulating his posts, and it's about a relatively unimportant topic at the time that he's treating quite seriously.

Pedit: I'm giving my unfiltered thoughts on the thread, clidd.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #79) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:02 am

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I'm skipping ahead and talking about this reads list.

In post 490, Green Crayons wrote:Hurrah. I read the thread.

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clidd: lean scum. I don't like his fixation on me.
After a page or two of plenty others talking about mechanics strategy, he focuses on me, draws us into a 1v1, later declares 1v1 likely to be tvt, and then calls it a day.
This is a lean and not a full scum read because, upon seeing the Word-town flip, his discussion about still supporting the Word elimination before the Word-town flip seems town.

Why is any of the highlighted demonic? He's listed out what happened but explained why it's demonic in any way.


Cthylla: scum. Passing over his initial reason to vote me, on the basis that my perspective of that reasoning might be biased, I think he's more likely scum because his suspicions seem to wait until thread approval. For example, he seemed followed Dannflor's, Walter's, and Norwegian's suspicions to Word; he followed clidd's suspicion for onto and then away from GC; and then hammered Word in a pretty scummy hammer post that rushed the day to a premature end.

This is false. I express my concern at Word early in , and before there's any votes on him. When asked, I explain my reasons in . Rather than looking at my reasons and talking about whether GC thinks they're fabricated or not, he's reducing his reasoning to a surface-level "he voted Word only once there were other votes on him."


Dannflor: lean town. I think I saw one post early game that struck me as maybe scummish, but I read his Word justification posts are being pretty open. Overall Dann has been a nonentity relative to everyone else, and so only a lean read here.

Isis: lean scum. I think her push on Word was objectively bad. Town can be wrong but the 350s interaction between Isis/Word, ending with her vote in as being "way too dissonant" just looks manufactured. I also think Word had a point that her walls make her look more productive than actually being productive. it's hard to follow threads of conversations when people respond to walls. Also, some of her content towards me looks like make-work. Take , where she thinks my explanation "doesn't make sense," she essentially retypes what happened in a way that shows she understands perfectly. This is only a lean because I think suspicions based on posting style get half credit.

He's saying it's hard for people to follow threads of conversation when responding in walls, this is only demonic if he thinks Isis is intentionally doing this with that intended effect, which seems ridiculous. He also has a lot to say about Isis here which feels a little TMI in some places. Could be a partner.


NorwegianboyEE: lean town. I view Norwegian as in the same basket as Dann. They're present, and have made substantive posts, but haven't rocked the boat for me to get strong AI feelings one way or the other. For both Dannflor and Norwegian, gun to my head I'd say town but I'm not comfortable enough to commit to beyond a lean read atm.

"haven't rocked the boat for me to get strong AI feelings one way or the other." should not equate to "lean town"


Hayasaka: town. This is a stupid little thing, but I think town are more likely to openly state their desire to be heavened rather than scum, and so on my reread jumped out to me. Hayasaka raises a perfectly good strategy to think up and follow on page 3, which nets town points. Her Page 14 posts are all open and town to me. And similar to the town pings I get from clidd's twilight commentary about Word, I think her support for the Word lynch before the Word-town flip is more likely to come from town.

I openly stated my desire to heavened too, did he forget that? He's applying his reasoning selectively which is a very bad sign.


Green Crayons: me

WaltertheDunce10: null. tbh I forget Walter is in this game until he posts.

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Post Post #637 (isolation #80) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:04 am

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Another reads list so early from GC in also feels demonic - he literally just posted one the previous day. It's a demon who's
this
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Post Post #638 (isolation #81) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:05 am

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In post 621, clidd wrote:What are your impressions on the players in general ?
Clidd did ask him for those actually. Not that he has to comply with another reads list, but that previous point is a lot more moot.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:10 am

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In post 628, clidd wrote:Ok, thanks GC.

I think you're the only player at the moment who doesn't see me as town and that's a point outside the curve in my view (in a good way), which is why you're the most likely angel here. It is suicide for you to have this line of thought as a demon.
It really isn't though. Having an anti-consensus read isn't suicide at all if you can justify it well. It also helps himself get heavened over you.

Yeah... I strongly townread you when I was the cat, Norwee.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:12 am

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VOTE: clidd

I would heaven clidd or Dannflor today.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #84) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:29 am

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In post 618, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 584, clidd wrote:Ok, Hectic. From what I understand from your text, you are trying to give me the view that you can see that I am town and also see that I am wrong about you.

The problem is that as much as it is true what you said (about scum!You know how to trick me into having a townread on you), I really didn't feel anything that told me that you are town, and that's crucial to me.
I think this is what you’re saying in this post, but my interpretation is that Hectic’s post of “Scum me knows how to play town you, and I’m telling you how I’d do that, and so you should understand me to be town” seems like a scum who can’t generate town points some other way, so is trying to manufacture something he’d think town might like.
Spinning this to look scummy is also demonic. Why don't I just do the things clidd likes to see come from town then? I've done it before, most recently in that 3 scum in one hood game, if you remember that clidd.


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Post Post #648 (isolation #85) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:38 am

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Thanks, Norwee! I don't know why, but I suddenly have very good feelings about you.
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Post Post #650 (isolation #86) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:39 am

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What did you mean by pocketing then, Isis? In a hypothetical scenario, if you were to try and pocket someone, how would you go about that?

I'm not placing a lot of stock in that read, it could very easily be you just having fun, so it's an eh.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #87) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:49 am

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I see, it's probably not a factor I should consider. I don't want to assume fluff/fun posts from you have nefarious purposes, I don't use them like that either.

I don't think fluffposts are in general pockety, the ones in regards to me this game just pinged me for whatever reason, and the comment you made at the end of chove hunting heightened my paranoia.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #88) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:05 am

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This is an acceptable compromise.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #89) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:09 am

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In post 673, beeboy wrote:
I am home, catching up now.
In post 674, Hayasaka wrote:Another one bites the dust :sad:
I've had a bad streak on that recently lmao.
Ha, I knew it!

This was referencing you trying to lynch the mayor:

In post 623, Cthylla wrote:I finally know who you are! You've tried and it didn't work before, but you can have your wish of purging me now. You get it???
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Post Post #682 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:12 am

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Nah, I didn't know back then. It clicked together in this game.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #91) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:17 am

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If you wanna know the why, it's because of this:

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and I noticed some habits, like mixing "your" and "you're" on occasion.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #92) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:26 am

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That's a classic tell. It's like how your key presses are more forceful when you're town, Norwee. Like you really mean them, I can see the dent marks.
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Post Post #695 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:53 am

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Because you're not trying to look towny and get yourself heavened. It doesn't look like you have an agenda.

I think Isis might be town actually because she's having too much fun this game.
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Post Post #698 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:56 am

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I did a reread of the thread in that time. Reconsidered the early post from Hayasaka everyone townread in my catchup. Pretty impressive progression if you ask me.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 688, Hayasaka wrote:
I think a scum who is trying to pocket people would also try and shift the pocket in an ingame way as well. And I sort of feel like me and Isis are operating in a pretty distinct manner from an in game standpoint. The POV that she could be trying to pocket me is something that I don't think is completely out of the question but it's something I don't think is happening at the very least not on purpose.
Alright, I see.

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Post Post #702 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:59 am

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In post 699, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 641, Cthylla wrote:VOTE: clidd

I would heaven clidd or Dannflor today.
Cool, so either clidd of Dann is scum and I don't think it's possible to work out the WIFOM of it until a flip.

UNVOTE: Dann
VOTE: Hayasaka

This is so surface level again. He's making the level 0 read of "a demon would try and push their demon partner", and considering stuff like how I'm demonread and what it'll look for my teammates if I am a demon and get helled tomorrow etc. Green Crayons isn't like this as town.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:00 am

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*not considering stuff like
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Post Post #707 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 702, Cthylla wrote:
In post 699, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 641, Cthylla wrote:VOTE: clidd

I would heaven clidd or Dannflor today.
Cool, so either clidd of Dann is scum and I don't think it's possible to work out the WIFOM of it until a flip.

UNVOTE: Dann
VOTE: Hayasaka

This is so surface level again. He's making the level 0 read of "a demon would try and push their demon partner", and considering stuff like how I'm demonread and what it'll look for my teammates if I am a demon and get helled tomorrow etc. Green Crayons isn't like this as town.
This also requires a LOT of confidence on me being a demon, that this was enough for you to actually unvote someone I called town, and even then, I called two people town, and you have no way of knowing whether I'm actually trying to push to heaven a demon partner, or trying to appear towny, or trying to pocket people etc
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Post Post #711 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:06 am

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He's a demon, clidd. Do you finally see the light?
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Post Post #729 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:22 am

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My replies are in green. This is getting a little out of control.

In post 716, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 636, Cthylla wrote:
I'm skipping ahead and talking about this reads list.

In post 490, Green Crayons wrote:Hurrah. I read the thread.

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clidd: lean scum. I don't like his fixation on me.
After a page or two of plenty others talking about mechanics strategy, he focuses on me, draws us into a 1v1, later declares 1v1 likely to be tvt, and then calls it a day.
This is a lean and not a full scum read because, upon seeing the Word-town flip, his discussion about still supporting the Word elimination before the Word-town flip seems town.

Why is any of the highlighted demonic? He's listed out what happened but explained why it's demonic in any way.
Because he targeted a specific player to have a 1v1, which means he was looking for a fight.
The result of the 1v1 fight that clidd created was HEY EVERYONE WE'RE TOWN 1V1ing!
That looks like scum trying to gin up town cred.

Fair enough

Cthylla: scum. Passing over his initial reason to vote me, on the basis that my perspective of that reasoning might be biased, I think he's more likely scum because his suspicions seem to wait until thread approval. For example, he seemed followed Dannflor's, Walter's, and Norwegian's suspicions to Word; he followed clidd's suspicion for onto and then away from GC; and then hammered Word in a pretty scummy hammer post that rushed the day to a premature end.

This is false. I express my concern at Word early in , and before there's any votes on him. When asked, I explain my reasons in . Rather than looking at my reasons and talking about whether GC thinks they're fabricated or not, he's reducing his reasoning to a surface-level "he voted Word only once there were other votes on him."
Nothing false about it at all.
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, not you, first articulated Word suspicions in . You jumped on 8 posts later in 180. Then you dropped it, even ignoring my asking you to explain it. You only went back to the Word-suspicions well once others started voting Word and voicing suspicions of Word again.

I missed your question. I explained my reasons for why I scumread Word when there were 2 votes on him. You're still not talking about the reasons themself.

Dannflor: lean town. I think I saw one post early game that struck me as maybe scummish, but I read his Word justification posts are being pretty open. Overall Dann has been a nonentity relative to everyone else, and so only a lean read here.

Isis: lean scum. I think her push on Word was objectively bad. Town can be wrong but the 350s interaction between Isis/Word, ending with her vote in as being "way too dissonant" just looks manufactured. I also think Word had a point that her walls make her look more productive than actually being productive. it's hard to follow threads of conversations when people respond to walls. Also, some of her content towards me looks like make-work. Take , where she thinks my explanation "doesn't make sense," she essentially retypes what happened in a way that shows she understands perfectly. This is only a lean because I think suspicions based on posting style get half credit.

He's saying it's hard for people to follow threads of conversation when responding in walls, this is only demonic if he thinks Isis is intentionally doing this with that intended effect, which seems ridiculous. He also has a lot to say about Isis here which feels a little TMI in some places. Could be a partner.


NorwegianboyEE: lean town. I view Norwegian as in the same basket as Dann. They're present, and have made substantive posts, but haven't rocked the boat for me to get strong AI feelings one way or the other. For both Dannflor and Norwegian, gun to my head I'd say town but I'm not comfortable enough to commit to beyond a lean read atm.

"haven't rocked the boat for me to get strong AI feelings one way or the other." should not equate to "lean town"
Interesting that you have nothing to say about Dann, but I put Dann and Norweign in the same boat of them being present and some town vibes, but nothing major.

Also haven't rocked the boat doesn't mean that I don't have lean feelings. lol @ you trying to police how I'm not allowed to have moderate town feelings at players.

As for Isis, I think walls upon walls is a good scum tactic but recognize that posting style isn't a sure-fire scum tell. Notably that's the *only* thing you focus on, handwaving my other problems with her actions as TMI. Mmmhm. Can't help but feel like trying to set the groundwork for pushing GC anew if Isis does in fact flip red.

lol you're drawing an awful amount of conclusions of who and who aren't my buddies from all this.

Hayasaka: town. This is a stupid little thing, but I think town are more likely to openly state their desire to be heavened rather than scum, and so on my reread jumped out to me. Hayasaka raises a perfectly good strategy to think up and follow on page 3, which nets town points. Her Page 14 posts are all open and town to me. And similar to the town pings I get from clidd's twilight commentary about Word, I think her support for the Word lynch before the Word-town flip is more likely to come from town.

I openly stated my desire to heavened too, did he forget that? He's applying his reasoning selectively which is a very bad sign.
1. Where?
2. Just because I missed it doesn't mean I'm selectively reading shit. It means I missed it. This is supplying scum reasoning based on nothing more than you want it to be the reasoning.
3. I've already told Walter that the declaration in and of itself isn't a town-tell. It's all about context. thanks for ignoring that. Convenient.

is the one

Green Crayons: me

WaltertheDunce10: null. tbh I forget Walter is in this game until he posts.

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Post Post #731 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:23 am

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In post 718, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 702, Cthylla wrote:
In post 699, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 641, Cthylla wrote:VOTE: clidd

I would heaven clidd or Dannflor today.
Cool, so either clidd of Dann is scum and I don't think it's possible to work out the WIFOM of it until a flip.

UNVOTE: Dann
VOTE: Hayasaka

This is so surface level again. He's making the level 0 read of "a demon would try and push their demon partner", and considering stuff like how I'm demonread and what it'll look for my teammates if I am a demon and get helled tomorrow etc. Green Crayons isn't like this as town.
"you're better this"

lol I'm 99% certain Norwegian-scum pulled that exact same shit on me in nightless
What about the actual reasoning in the post?
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Post Post #735 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:25 am

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In post 724, Hayasaka wrote:
I feel like you are tunneling right now. I am not saying what he is doing is golden play but I feel like town play level 1 mafia all the time. I could liik up meta if I really needed to since I am basically just replying to your read saying "nahhhh" and that feels dismissive to me.
If he is town, I'm basically playing as a 4th demon, so I hope they appreciate all this. I've had a gutread on him being scum since the start. I can't always articulate it so sometimes I try and look for reasons for it.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:26 am

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In post 733, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tbh i've been considering if it's best to heaven GC, and if they're town we hell Hectic tommorow.
I'm okay with this. I'll take the L if I'm wrong.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:30 am

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In post 737, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I just thought of something, what if Cthylla and GC is scum theatre.
After all, this game mode is all about anti-associations between scum.
Hmm, I haven't ruled it out yet. I did find it a little sus that Green Crayons didn't complain about my green font after I started using it after his initial complaints about Isis's.

I like this read from you though.
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Post Post #744 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:31 am

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In post 739, Isis wrote:
Assuming GC vs. Cth is guaranteed TvS for whatever reason you believe in I think it's more mechanically efficient to heaven someone unrelated to it then hell a member of it and heaven the other.

But that's an intuition and I'm not sure how to math out the T-chart for that
It isn't though. Why would it be? I like him for scum a lot, but not that I'd bet the whole game over it right now.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:33 am

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In post 745, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.
This is scummy and +equity with GC. Green Crayons is heavened and flips demon, and Walter can justify pushing for me the next day.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #107) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 747, Green Crayons wrote:i stopped complaining about the text because it's seriously annoying as fuck, but i'm not going to whine about it, and as I mentioned before I change to my laptop to read this thread instead of my phone because it only hurts my eyes on my phone and not laptop
Yeah, that wasn't a serious read. I was kidding around about Norwee's theory making both of us demons
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Post Post #752 (isolation #108) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am

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In post 749, Cthylla wrote:
In post 745, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.
This is scummy and +equity with GC. Green Crayons is heavened and flips demon, and Walter can justify pushing for me the next day.
Reason why I like it from Norwee is because he posts it as a possibility and in a natural way to talk about.

Walter instead sheeps it and acts like it's a lot more concrete, implying we should flip GC for information, so that he can push me tomorrow.
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Post Post #800 (isolation #109) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:19 pm

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clidd is obvtown, we should just send him to heaven. I know you don't want to be, clidd, but we need to go for the win.

Green Crayons is obvscum. He unvoted Dann because I voted for clidd to be heavened while also saying Dann was town. Note, I didn't make any push to heaven Dann or really give any reasoning that would convince anyone. Just calling him town was enough for me to "muddy the waters on Dann" and not make Green Crayons want to heaven him.
You know what's really going on? Green Crayons wants to heaven himself, that's why he's gone off Dann.
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Post Post #818 (isolation #110) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 12:58 pm

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In post 801, Hayasaka wrote:
You don't see the value in leaving him on the dance floor so we can have a townie just dominate the playing field? Especially when having a lock town on the floor means all judgement days have a >50% chance of succeeding.
It just feels like a horrific waste of Clidd.
Maybe. Leaving clidd around would be great for game health for sure.
Playing scum exhausts clidd btw, so he would absolutely be fine with being heavened early as a demon. Him saying he wants to stay around for longer really reduces the chance of him getting heavened today and is really towny too.

I could go Dann instead, but not nearly as confident there.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #111) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:00 pm

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In post 816, clidd wrote:I don't know why you aren't worried about GC trolling in heaven. He's out of his mind in my opinion.
Green Crayons doesn't troll as town, clidd. He's a fairly serious player.

Any "trolling" you're detecting is scuminess, ya know, because he's a demon. You don't need to make excuses for him.
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Post Post #824 (isolation #112) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 804, Green Crayons wrote:I said early on that I wanted Haya but went Dann bc of activity. When you, obv scum acts, muddied the waters about Dann, the easy answer is Haya.
But again: all I did was call Dann town in a throwaway post. The person I gave reasoning for being town and pushed was clidd. That shouldn't be enough to actually influence your read on Dann naturally.
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Post Post #825 (isolation #113) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:05 pm

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VOTE: Dannflor
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Post Post #844 (isolation #114) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 826, Dannflor wrote:Why not Hayasaka?
Thing is, I haven't seen anything from her that screams town. She just seems fine and generally open. She'd be my 3rd pick.

I'll vote there if there's more support there.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #115) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:31 pm

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Why is Green Crayons clearly town, Hayasaka? Send me back if you've already explained the read.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #116) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:34 pm

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In post 836, clidd wrote:
Playing scum exhausts clidd btw, so he would absolutely be fine with being heavened early as a demon
That's true ... but it's been months. How do you still remember that ?

Pedit: Hayasaka.
I don't know, it just stuck with me, especially after you put all the effort into Ultimate Conspiracy to win twice, and were too exhausted for a 3rd round.
You've brought it up a few times in other games too.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #117) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:43 pm

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Well, he had me as his designated scumread in his readlist, but I was the one who started casing and pushing him. It's only natural scum!him pushes back and counters rather than eat that scumread.

Your point that if he thought things through, he'd realise town would be less inclined to heaven him if they thought he was tunneled on me is interesting, but I don't think that always enters his mind or has a big influence in how he reacts to me.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #118) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:50 pm

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Why do you think I shouldn't be able to remember it? It's an important detail in reading you.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #119) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:12 pm

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Who exactly do you townread, Hayasaka?
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Post Post #880 (isolation #120) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:21 am

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In post 866, Hayasaka wrote:
Now that Crossfire is done and I've officially seen Isis play scum.
I have no new information I'd like to add to my read.

That is all.
I do! I was scum with her, and she was so much quieter had far, far fewer fluff posts in that game. She's having more fun here.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #121) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:25 am

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VOTE: Hayasaka

I think demons are Green Crayons and Walter but
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could be Norwee maybe
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Post Post #882 (isolation #122) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:14 am

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Oh, that was a question directed at me, Norwee. I thought I answered that already.

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Isis's read on me I get uneasy feelings from, but the question is whether that's my OMGUS talking; I can't really tell whether it's legitimate or not. Her activity, tone, and content otherwise seem pretty towny. If it's the 4th time in a row I'm townlean/reading demon!her, then please just signal to me you're a demon, Isis. I'll join your team and we'll get an early majority.

Norwee I would not heaven. Too many iffy feelings there.

Walter and Green Crayons I think are demons.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #123) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:16 am

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Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.
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Post Post #891 (isolation #124) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:53 am

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In post 889, clidd wrote:
In post 883, Cthylla wrote:
Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.
I think that you know that I know that the error above is town indicator in my pov, so i will just not read it as AI.
Lol it was accidental but that's fair.
Hayasaka is below Dann because she randomly pings me soemtimes but I can never explain those pings, so they're
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Post Post #912 (isolation #125) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:12 am

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o7

quality stuff, I'll try my beat to reevaluate my read on Green Crayons if you're so sure on him
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Post Post #950 (isolation #126) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:55 am

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I regard you as a high skill level player, Dann; you've always felt that way to me. You and GuiltyLion feel very similar to me in a way. This may look like buddying but that's my impression of you.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #127) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:33 am

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In post 958, Isis wrote:
I also kind of scumread him the more I come around on Hectic, not because "half the 1v1 must be scum" but because I think Hectic is better at mafia than I used to, not sure whether his skill changed or my perception only.
what do you mean by this? I've been playing better here than you're used to so it's towny of me?
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Post Post #998 (isolation #128) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:48 am

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In post 989, Isis wrote:
In post 987, Cthylla wrote:
In post 958, Isis wrote:
I also kind of scumread him the more I come around on Hectic, not because "half the 1v1 must be scum" but because I think Hectic is better at mafia than I used to, not sure whether his skill changed or my perception only.
what do you mean by this? I've been playing better here than you're used to so it's towny of me?
No, I mean just before this game started my opinion of you is higher than it was just before, say, Fusion started. So the delta between rand and something you're scumreading is more meaningful than it used to be, if you're town, which I am leaning but isn't a given.
I thought it needed clarifying since the last time I remember commenting on your skill was trashing it but now that I think it should have been pretty transparent that I was giving your opinion plenty of weight in chieve f3. So maybe the marker wasn't needed.
I seeee. Out of interest, what'd you think of my play as Marksman compared to here?

Also, could you explain why you're now leaning towards me being town? I was bottom of your reads on your last list a while ago.
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #129) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 1000, Isis wrote:
You were Marksman? You? Surely not. There's no way. Oh my. It was so hidden.
ok I can't do any better than that
It was meant to be super stealthy lul, I didn't change anything about my playstyle. I assumed you figured it out in-game
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #130) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:25 am

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In post 1009, Isis wrote:
now that I think about it it's possible it's 4/5ish and a certain scum may done it I should look
In post 1010, Isis wrote:
uh oh bad news
Yeah, I pulled that read out on you in reservoir dogs lol
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #131) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:30 am

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shrug


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Post Post #1017 (isolation #132) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:32 am

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Post Post #1019 (isolation #133) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:34 am

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If only I spend 3000 thousand hours playing Magic rather than Hearthstone before I quit... then I could get these references

I am always an angel at heart, I will feel bad about it even when I kill you
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #134) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:36 am

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Why aren't you having that much fun this game, Isis?
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #135) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:40 am

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Oh, nice, with what deck? I made legend in Hearthstone way back in the day before they even had a standard and wild mode and everything was allowed. It was with GvG Paladin. The recruit value was too sweet.
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #136) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:52 am

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oh no... not undertaker hunter. that was so long ago but I still shudder when thinking about it

I use the early month card backs like the rainbow one because I like to be cool and OG
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #137) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:20 am

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how can you not be a demon if you invented that deck? but fine, I'll reconsider whether demons are all bad and angels are all good
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #138) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:16 pm

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VOTE: Walter

Questions give me the feeling of busywork, it's similar to when he was questioning Norwee about getting heavened.

Also, that last question you asked Isis just talked about a whole lot.

Green Crayons isn't off the hook yet ftr, will reread him some time
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #139) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:19 pm

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In post 1017, Cthylla wrote:
In post 961, Morning Tweet wrote:"ɎɆ₴, ₥Ɏ ĐɆ₳Ɽ. ₮Ⱨł₴ ł₴ ₩Ⱨ₳₮ ł₴ ฿Ɇ₴₮ ₣ØⱤ ₳ⱠⱠ Ø₣ Ʉ₴. "
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #140) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 1055, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1054, Cthylla wrote:
In post 1017, Cthylla wrote:
In post 961, Morning Tweet wrote:"ɎɆ₴, ₥Ɏ ĐɆ₳Ɽ. ₮Ⱨł₴ ł₴ ₩Ⱨ₳₮ ł₴ ฿Ɇ₴₮ ₣ØⱤ ₳ⱠⱠ Ø₣ Ʉ₴. "
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #141) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:58 am

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In post 1092, Isis wrote:Do you hydra with your cat without the moderator's consent every game like I do? You should.
This is tempting... I should do.

Regarding my question on your rate of misreading me, that was more out of interest rather than expecting to solve you off of it.

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Post Post #1147 (isolation #142) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:59 am

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Hey, Walter, why do you think Green Crayons vs. I was SvT?
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #143) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:03 am

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is interesting. Morning seems to be implying Hayasaka could've been deceiving us, contrary to her flip saying she was Town. Do we think there could be some demonic (I can't think of an alternative word for demonic, please help if you don't like it, Isis) flip manipulators in this game?
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #144) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 971, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It’s hard for me to make sense of the events on this day with the current info given. Ironically i almost would have preferred a scum in heaven today because then i’d know what to look for. Now it’s 3v4 and i’m kinda clueless with how everyone seemed ok with voting anyone. I’m thinking the GC/Hectic 1v1 is the most likely TvS conflict here so i’d rather vote in here than just Walter. Walter could be scum with anyone imo, so if they maf i’m still unsure where to look.
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I don't like this positioning from Norwee either. I'd like to hear reasoning on the conflict being TvS. If it is TvT, this stance is a very useful one for demons to make.
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #145) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:59 am

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In post 1153, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:
In post 1147, Cthylla wrote:
Hey, Walter, why do you think Green Crayons vs. I was SvT?
Part poe part the fact that I don't think you guys are both scum together.
So, the only thing you're getting from our interactions is that we're not SvS? But you still want to frame it as a SvT rather than consider a TvT because it's easier to push us that way, isn't it? Even if you don't have any reasoning for it.

Yet here, you said you wanted to heaven GC because you thought we might be SvS and it'd be informative:

In post 745, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #146) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:53 am

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Hmm, that response was townier than I was hoping it to be. Can't you be a bit more fiendish?
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #147) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:55 am

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In post 1165, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I should also point out that at the time you were both my top scum reads so that is why I was willing to consider it.
Haaaang on, if we were your top scumreads, why were you considering a Green Crayons heaven in ?
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #148) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:58 am

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In post 1167, NorwegianboyEE wrote:When the scum don't say: "Ahaha, it is i! The scum!" it's always so much harder than it needs to be.
Exactly. Norwee gets me.
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #149) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:06 am

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Do it. I dare you to.

And you're right, that is a pretty terrible reason to heaven a top abyssalread. I don't get it.

Norwee feels tame this game btw, which is a classic fallen angel tell of his.
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #150) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 1178, Cthylla wrote:And you're right, that is a pretty terrible reason to heaven a top abyssalread. I don't get it.
This might make sense from an association perspective, but I think wanting to heaven town should override anything like that from a town-perspective, so it's a very unnatural thought to want to heaven him for those reasons.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #151) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:17 am

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Random thought but I'd feel so bad for Norwee if he rolled scum again. I want to believe he didn't roll it for once
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #152) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:14 pm

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Post Post #1279 (isolation #153) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:42 am

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Is Green Crayons having that cognitive load thing where seraphs don't get jokes?

I've been less focused on Green Crayons because Hayasaka was convinced he was town, and also I was waiting for him to post this phase. If my vote represented my desire to end the day and kill the person instantly, I wouldn't be voting.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #154) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 1231, Green Crayons wrote:votes walter because questions are busywork. i don't disagree that just asking Qs is busywork, but flimsy basis for a vote on D3
It's not just the act of asking questions, it's the questions that he's choosing to ask feel forced and like he's struggling to naturally talk about relevant things.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #155) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:31 am

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clidd, why aren't you posting your analysis and walls this game?

@GC: Him asking Norwee on heavening and his recent questioning, like asking Isis for her read on me after she'd just discussed it a whole bunch.
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #156) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:33 am

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Could everyone start putting their votes down? I didn't learn VCA from Titus for nothing.
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #157) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:47 am

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Some Walter posts randomly give me townpings, like the "no, just no" in . Maybe instead we should liberate Norwee from playing as a devil again.
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #158) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:32 am

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Still like him for scum. Him not seeing things like clidd as obvtown when everyone else does, or how Walter's questions feel forced when most of the game does is villain-indicative, because he's either not seeing things from the perspective of the same alignment, or he's just faking those reads.

I respective Hayasaka and clidd's opinions though, but maybe I should just be going for him regardless.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #159) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:35 am

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Walter, Norwee, Green Crayons are who I think are seraphic. Walter and Norwee make sense as a team, but I don't think Green Crayons would fit into that, because of the way Norwee established us as a SvT and started pushing Green Crayons.
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #160) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:13 am

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Well, Norwee probably went into this day phase thinking I'd be hard pushing him, going by my tunnel yesterday, so it could be a little risky. Although, a lot of others were thinking GC was town yesterday, so he might've assumed I didn't have enough support to get the hell through. I think it makes sense as distancing if his demon buddy isn't someone who's at risk of getting helled today, like Walter, because then they're kinda just writing off him. If Walter is town, then Norwee + Green Crayons would make more sense.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #161) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:14 am

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(The first "him" referring to Green Crayons)
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #162) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:14 am

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You could be, there's nothing definitive to suggest otherwise , just a feeling I had. We're delving too much into preflip analysis but to answer the question: maybe Isis? Dann was the first to propose Green Crayons and I was a SvS, so makes less sense for it to be him.

How did you hope to solve me by asking me that question?
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #163) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:15 am

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*TvT
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #164) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:16 pm

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VOTE: Norwee
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #165) » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:18 pm

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The post three above this is demonic though. Why accept his opinion so readily, Walter?
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Post Post #1384 (isolation #166) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:02 am

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That Dann spree was really towny to me. I want to give him all my possessions and money and trust him not to run away with them.

GC's hammer is houndish because he was suspecting Norwee more in his summaries for players as far as I can tell.

To answer Norwee's question: I was leaning towards banishing you today, because this fits your demongame far too well.
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #167) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:02 am

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In post 1383, clidd wrote:Hayasaka, if somehow Walter is town, Norwergian is probably scum (if you're reading this)
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #168) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:13 am

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In post 1387, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why are you guys so confident he’s town, i thought y’all scumread him.
What gives you the idea we're confident he's town?
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #169) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:16 am

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In post 1386, Green Crayons wrote:always have to needle, dont you Cth?
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #170) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:43 am

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o7 Walter
You will be avenged.

I'm sold on Green Crayons + Norwee.
This means one of Isis, Dann, and clidd are scum. Oh boy.
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #171) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:44 am

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In post 116, Cthylla wrote:
Norwee + Green Crayons + Isis is the page 5 power solve <: )

In post 46, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Isis you just ignored my question in favour of talking about cards. WHY is your text Purply?
this looks like a fake interaction


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Post Post #1416 (isolation #172) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:51 am

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You didn't really try and convince us of GC scum at all, Norwee
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #173) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:08 am

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In post 1399, Morning Tweet wrote:
The silence drags on and on. The air around you feels as if it's getting hotter— and before long, you have to wipe away sweat trickling down the side of your forehead. Finally, one person puts an end to the standstill. It's Green Crayons. He manages to get a few words out in a broken, quiet voice.


"I'm sorry, WaltertheDunce10."
Why are you so nervous here, Green Crayons? Finally feeling some remorse for your actions?
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #174) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 1433, clidd wrote:I assimilated and accepted that GC was town after our discussion progressed and how it influenced me to see Hayasaka as town.
Could you point towards specifics?

I'm suddenly paranoi-ing myself into a Norwee + Green Crayons + clidd world, it would fit the way you kept trying to explain off Crayon's scuminess as "trolling".
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #175) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:16 am

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I'm really confbiased at this point, but yeah, Green Crayon's bravado reads as really fake.

What do you mean in , Isis?
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #176) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am

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Norwee is definitely a demon here though, I think that's by far the most sensible judgement, Hayasaka. He feels resigned and hasn't got any of the WIM that a town that could be the game losing elimination would have.
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #177) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:27 am

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In post 1453, Isis wrote:
In post 1452, Cthylla wrote:
I'm really confbiased at this point, but yeah, Green Crayon's bravado reads as really fake.

What do you mean in , Isis?
I'm sympathetic to a SvS interpretation

references to AvP should come with trigger warnings though
I still don't get it tbh. It's an encoded demonic message, isn't it?
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Post Post #1467 (isolation #178) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:28 am

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In post 1460, Dannflor wrote:perhaps clidd/isis/norwegian makes some sense

by my heart of hearts feels bad when I try putting isis in scum teams

I feel like my mind is just wandering there because the recent posts from GC are just yucky in a way that make scum reading him less fun

pedit; isis can you clarify whether that vote is just a "I suspect this person" or a "I think Hayasaka should judge this person?"
Hmm, I don't think so. clidd could very easily follow the flow of GC-scum and then get a victory with Norwee and Green Crayon hells. There's no reason to white knight GC here.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #179) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:29 am

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In post 1465, Isis wrote:
In post 1463, Cthylla wrote:
In post 1453, Isis wrote:
In post 1452, Cthylla wrote:
I'm really confbiased at this point, but yeah, Green Crayon's bravado reads as really fake.

What do you mean in , Isis?
I'm sympathetic to a SvS interpretation

references to AvP should come with trigger warnings though
I still don't get it tbh. It's an encoded demonic message, isn't it?
AvP is Alisae V Pine. It was a large invitational game. I don't wanna talk about it though.
I see. Alright.
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #180) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:30 am

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Norwee + Green Crayons + clidd/Isis is my page 59 powersolve. Turns out my solves change very little in 54 pages
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #181) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:28 am

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He's not trolling, clidd. He is not intentionally trying to appear demonic.

Green Crayons, are you intentionally trying to look demonic?

clidd, you should tell us what you think of him after this is clarified for you.
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #182) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:56 am

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Post Post #1500 (isolation #183) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:45 am

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That's actually kinda town-indicative. clidd has had clashes like these before, and I don't believe he's ever faked one as a hell hound. Currently think Isis is the third, but hopefully I don't have to think about that considering Norwee + Green Crayons should be enough to win.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #184) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:11 pm

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You are an absolute hero, Hayasaka. Morning's flavour makes it so much better too, because reading it while not knowing the flip makes it all the more thrilling.

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Post Post #1517 (isolation #185) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:12 pm

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In post 1515, Dannflor wrote:which makes the third either Green Crayons or Cthylla. I hope it's GC because that means this post is awesome and because I think Cthylla is really towny.
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #186) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:15 pm

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In post 1508, Morning Tweet wrote:
You sit sprawled out over a cold, concrete floor at the edge of a cellar. You stare idly at an array of wooden wine barrels stacked up in front of you.


“Hell-ooohh? Anyone home?”


The same girl as always moves in the way of your vision, snapping her fingers. You ignore her and instead shift your gaze to the cellar window. Daylight shines through, lighting up this side of the room.

Isis was never out to be your friend. She wasn't a good person. All that mattered was manipulating your feelings in order to benefit herself. And it worked. You struggle to find the strength to believe it. The more you think upon it, the more you realize it's easier to just omit her from memory entirely.


“Well, whatever. You all know the drill. I'll be back soon.”


The demon turns and opens a wooden door on the back basement wall. You cannot make out what's inside as she quickly exits with a slam of the door.

You're so tired. But you've got to carry on. You owe it to word321 and WaltertheDunce. Though your legs ache, you painstakingly push yourself up to your feet.

Now.. who else is out to betray you?
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #187) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:16 pm

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Well, it's not beating here, but I mean seeing him lose. That sounds mean when I say it like that, look, just consider this a failed joke.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #188) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:42 pm

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In post 1520, Dannflor wrote:I don't think it's super likely that clidd and GC have that little spat if they are teammates, do you?
I don't, so as long as you're not some kind of old deep god, we're good. The way Isis reacted to your catchup felt like she was putting suspicion there because she was forced to and needed other people to mishell, so I have high hopes.
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #189) » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:54 pm

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Pretty much
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #190) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:01 am

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Norweeeeee where are you? Just write us a poem or self-send-off if you've admitted defeat.

Also, hi, DDL. Haven't seen you since Team Mafia.
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #191) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:44 am

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I didn't realise we get to go to another judgement day if we mishell btw. I thought the game came down to today lol. This seems really townsided.
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Post Post #1577 (isolation #192) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:57 am

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I thought your profile picture was a planet with pools of green lava but it's actually an eye?? Just the sort of tricks I'd expect from an abyssal.

I was gonna criticise you for voting me when there's already a vote out but then I remembered quickhammering isn't a thing because of judgement.
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Post Post #1582 (isolation #193) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:04 am

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Oh, the white flag mechanic only applies if the hell occurs during a non-judgement phase? That makes a little more sense.

Green Crayons is probably going for hell me into Norwee judgement tomorrow, and then winning the 1v1 against DDL probably?

There's like a very small world it's actually Norwee + DDL which is why DDL has come out today gunning for Green Crayons instead, but that's exactly why we just hell Norwee and don't care about that and end the game now.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #194) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:06 am

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In post 2, Morning Tweet wrote:Win Conditions:
- Town wins if the majority of scum (2) are sent to Hell.
- Scum wins if the majority of scum (2) are sent to Heaven --OR-- if a townie is sent to Hell during Judgment Day.
Yeah, stop bamboozling, Green Crayons. Is that an attempted townslip I see?
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Post Post #1586 (isolation #195) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:08 am

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From , Dann. But GC was either faking it or genuinely confused.
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #196) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:04 am

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lol there's no reason to make them suffer. Also, I want to be in the flavour.


VOTE: Norwee
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #197) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:59 am

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Post Post #1610 (isolation #198) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:02 pm

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In post 1604, Green Crayons wrote:4. I seriously, legitimately hate that black background text. It hurts my eyes and Cth’s was very difficult to read. It is ugly and gross.

5. This setup is hellllllllla town sided. I think our best bet was the wrong judgment from Haya. Given the associatives that can happen from a heavened scum, I think this might actually be the best long-term play. But I never ever want to play this setup again even as town.
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Post Post #1611 (isolation #199) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 1608, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:My apologies for scumreading you cth
No apology needed! My bad for not trusting my townpings on you more.

Fantastic flavour btw, Morning; very immersive. I always try to read the flavour before seeing the flip as well, so it makes it pretty exciting to read.
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