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[Green Crayons]

Now that we've successfully had a two-page discussion about how we view discussions about strategy, what do you make of Cth and Norwegian's back and forth about Cth's alt status?

[clidd]

I really wanted to comment on what you have clarified, but I feel it will be a drunken discussion.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am curious Isis, how much of a main thread do you follow in a game once you are eliminated?

I'd rather send to heaven a strong town player who has told us their final reads, and WHO WON'T keep up, and then will do a reread if we get to judgment day.

I think reading a mature game (like, actually reading the thing) without many preconceptions is probably the strongest town weapon. It's why town replacements into a game can be killer if done by a strong player.

I am curious Isis, how much of a main thread do you follow in a game once you are eliminated?

I'd rather send to heaven a strong town player who has told us their final reads, and WHO WON'T keep up, and then will do a reread if we get to judgment day.


I think reading a mature game (like, actually reading the thing) without many preconceptions is probably the strongest town weapon. It's why town replacements into a game can be killer if done by a strong player.

mmmm, slight revision. I think I would be happy to send a strong town player to heaven once we get at least 1 scum in hell. not send a strong town player to heaven before then.

One says heaven a strong player then your revision says to not send a strong player at first until scum is caught.
To me that is a change in answer.

[Green Crayons]

oh lol i thought you meant after clidd chimed in and as part of our back and forth

yeah I revised that answer, as you were

[clidd]

Now that we've successfully had a two-page discussion about how we view discussions about strategy, what do you make of Cth and Norwegian's back and forth about Cth's alt status?

He could have make some comparisons by typing patern in a hidden way to improve the accuracy of the search.

In this case, the public coming and going can be seen as an image maintenance(scummy), but as it is within the context of Norwegian's profile, it's a different action from what I have seen from his scumgames (not so scummy at all).

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[2] word321: clidd, WaltertheDunce10 [2] Green Crayons: Dannflor, Cthylla [1] Cthylla: Hayasaka [1] Isis: Green Crayons [1] NorwegianboyEE: word321 [1] Dannflor: Isis [1] Not Voting: NorwegianboyEE With 9 still with us, it takes 5 votes to condemn someone to Hell.

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[clidd]

Now speaking of Cth, his vote on you was bad and disregarded our previous interaction, where it was possible to see, in my opinion, that you acted in good faith (scummy).

[clidd]

I feel that his text structure is unnatural and that he is trying hard not to reveal typing strokes that could confirm connection with another account (isn't scummy, but don't give me a good feeling).

I want to pressure word now, otherwise I would vote him.

[clidd]

VOTE: Word

Pedit: you sniped me, this is probably L-1
let's be civilised here
no lolhammers

This is another ping about Cth.

[clidd]

I can't see why it would be invalid for me to take an AI impression of a mechanical post that looks like a filler to fill space. By extension, this would also be hypothetically ignoring mechanical post spam, as I cannot draw AI conclusions from their presence (it doesn't work).

To be clear:

1. You SHOULDN'T draw AI thoughts from substantive recommendations about strategy. Nobody is going to give a bad strategy to hurt town--neither town (obviously) or scum are motivated to openly suggest bad strategies. If you start feeling like "oh Player X must be town because that's a good strategy," slap yourself and wake up. No AI.

2. You CAN get AI from whether a player focuses MOSTLY or ONLY on setup speculation or mechanics strategy, because like you said scum can use it as a crutch.

3. You CAN get AI from players who focus on whether other players are focusing on setup speculation or mechanics strategy, because it's a super easy "discussion about a discussion" that scum can use to look busy.

By the way, this is almost a

"why you don't understand, idiot"

, which I see as genuine (genuine=towny in this context).

[clidd]

I believe that the last thing Scum!GC would like was an early 1v1, so returning to the subject indicates persistence in what you said, increasing the chance of being content that you believe to be true and is not being understood in the way you wanted.

[clidd]

That's all, I still think Word is the most likely demon and would like to see he posting.

[Cthylla]

I feel that his text structure is unnatural and that he is trying hard not to reveal typing strokes that could confirm connection with another account (isn't scummy, but don't give me a good feeling).

I want to pressure word now, otherwise I would vote him.

my main's been outed clidd
it's Hectic

[Cthylla]

I believe that the last thing Scum!GC would like was an early 1v1, so returning to the subject indicates persistence in what you said, increasing the chance of being content that you believe to be true and is not being understood in the way you wanted.

why do you think this?
have you played with or seen Green Crayons before?
a 1v1 isn't all bad for scum
in general others often wind up townreading both parties

[clidd]

I feel that his text structure is unnatural and that he is trying hard not to reveal typing strokes that could confirm connection with another account (isn't scummy, but don't give me a good feeling).

I want to pressure word now, otherwise I would vote him.

my main's been outed clidd
it's Hectic

Sorry, you don't look like Hectic.

If you post with Hectic's account, I'll believe you.

[Cthylla]

lol well I can't do that, it'd be breaking the rules

[Cthylla]

why don't I look like Hectic?

[clidd]

I believe that the last thing Scum!GC would like was an early 1v1, so returning to the subject indicates persistence in what you said, increasing the chance of being content that you believe to be true and is not being understood in the way you wanted.

why do you think this?
have you played with or seen Green Crayons before?
a 1v1 isn't all bad for scum
in general others often wind up townreading both parties

I did a research of his meta to have a base.

1v1 draws a lot of attention in my opinion and his insistence did not seem in bad faith to me, as well as his reactions to what I said.

[clidd]

why don't I look like Hectic?

You don't seem to be flowing naturally in your texts (my personal view).

[Dannflor]

I don't dislike his entrance on isolation but I dislike its placement on page 6 of the game

Can you explain this?

like on its own the post is mostly NAI

I didn't like it because it came after certain slots had already developed reads and there was content to comment on

word opts to ignore most of this in favor of a milque-toast mechanics entrance

[Cthylla]

why don't I look like Hectic?

You don't seem to be flowing naturally in your texts (my personal view).

the way i'm writing is intentional
i'm writing such that every time i have a new thought i write it down on the next line
so if i ever stop typing to think basically, when i next start typing, it'll be on the next line
so you can kinda see my thoughts form in order

[clidd]

Hum.

[clidd]

What do you think about G.C reactions to my disagreement ?

[Cthylla]

i agree with his take on mech discussions and his initial mechpost isn't scummy at all actually now that i look at it again
doesn't mean any of that discussion is town-indicative though
just NAI

[Cthylla]

: )