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Post Post #706 (isolation #200) » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:03 pm

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why am I in an "elimpool" if I'm town?
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Post Post #709 (isolation #201) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:20 am

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Was testing if they're keeping up with claims/whats happening in thread. It's important info to me
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Post Post #712 (isolation #202) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:25 am

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LOL i used the bump function i didnt know itd change the timestamp
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Post Post #714 (isolation #203) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:26 am

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oh so you lurking but not contributing?
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Post Post #717 (isolation #204) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:28 am

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In post 715, Aristophanes wrote:Anyway,
In post 706, DkKoba wrote:why am I in an "elimpool" if I'm town?
Because you are a Policy Elim if I don't find someone more worthy of elimination.

I thought I'd made that clear.
If anyone should be policied it should be marquis but ok buddy
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Post Post #718 (isolation #205) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:32 am

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In post 716, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 714, DkKoba wrote:oh so you lurking but not contributing?
Lmfao I don't need to respond to every post immediately.

There's a difference between lurking and coming back to this later.
Any reason you tend to dodge questions that ask for analysis?
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Post Post #723 (isolation #206) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:26 am

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In post 719, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 717, DkKoba wrote:
In post 715, Aristophanes wrote:Anyway,
In post 706, DkKoba wrote:why am I in an "elimpool" if I'm town?
Because you are a Policy Elim if I don't find someone more worthy of elimination.

I thought I'd made that clear.
If anyone should be policied it should be marquis but ok buddy
Lmfao
Okay please explain that.

Marquis is coming in with a plan to mechanicallt stifle mafia.

Why is that P-EL worthy?
(Working on short forms, not sure I like that one)
Your premise is false so i can't respond to it properly. You 2 are both terrible at mech analysis.
Also since when does mech analysis excuse one from being PLed? They've basically refused to play the game other than to hardtunnel me.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #207) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:26 am

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In post 721, tn5421 wrote:
In post 714, DkKoba wrote:oh so you lurking but not contributing?
you make meaningful contribution impossible
ellaborate.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #208) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:18 am

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Im at work
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Post Post #737 (isolation #209) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:03 am

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VOTE: adorable
Lol
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Post Post #738 (isolation #210) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:03 am

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not bc of what they said abt me but just they are so fluffy rn
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Post Post #740 (isolation #211) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:10 am

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sure believe what u want lmao
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Post Post #745 (isolation #212) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:58 am

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adorable can i get some recent games where u rolled vt from you?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #213) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:59 am

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also those are very fair explainations. I like you so far
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Post Post #750 (isolation #214) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:09 am

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Ok but can u link them for us
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Post Post #753 (isolation #215) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:44 pm

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In post 752, Marquis wrote:I'm here but this game is boring me bc nobody seems to listen or care beyond their own ego
do you think adorable is Town?
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Post Post #754 (isolation #216) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:45 pm

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also ive already locktowned u. u read like an open book and your scum play is vastly different than ur town play
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Post Post #757 (isolation #217) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:50 pm

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adorable I'm sorry but those games actually show you having more conviction early on .

like here
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In post 332, Isis wrote:Ok I caught up again.

Auro's demonstrative efforts to do have visually townish reactions all game looks very theatrical and has such a jerky progression that I think it's really, really unlikely he's town. Unfortunately I'm starting to think Drew is more likely the partner than Tweet which makes this pretty much an L.

I don't think superbowl is very likely scum here, but I don't know of any compelling reason to townread Tommy and I don't think I've been very obviously town this game due to like, not being enthused. Also, it kind of starts to feel more boring and less interesting the more I feel like Auro is just openwolfing, and from my point of view that is the last relevant informational point of the game?

I don't really understand why gobble selfed like that but I guess it's kind of a postgame discussion
I've never played with Auro before and don't know how he plays as scum. I would expect scum Auro to focus on my hood to tree stump first since gobbles and Galron were getting scum read the most and Auro wanted your hood to be the first to tree stump.
In post 340, Isis wrote:Gobble can fluff his feathers all he wants, but I think TTT's gambit was protown and I don't think Auro's handling of his own skepticism of our hood description has shown a town alignment. It's on the laundry list.
I disagree with this. Tommy's gambit did not look protown at all and it looked scummy. On the first post quoted above you said you don't have any compelling reason to town read Tommy and now over here you say Tommy's gambit was protown. Which is it? This looks like you are defending a scum buddy.

and here

Adorable wrote:I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
In post 142, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't like Adorable's entrance either
This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.

I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.
this is something you lack in this game so far.


Giving you a chance to respond to that but I think the comparison shows a clear contrast.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #218) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:51 pm

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marquis keep being useless <3 we can play with a handicap its ok
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Post Post #761 (isolation #219) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:52 pm

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i do expect a 1 page apology in post game, or in dead PT when we're both confirmed as town to eachother <3
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Post Post #762 (isolation #220) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:52 pm

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marquis why am I scum?

please. you STILL have yet to explain how I'm scum LOL

like ur deadass just annoying ngl.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #221) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:54 pm

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ok marquis, what information do you have that shows my alignment?
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Post Post #765 (isolation #222) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:56 pm

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im sure youve had discussion with Ari, would you mind sharing some of the conclusions you 2 have reached about the game?
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Post Post #769 (isolation #223) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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ok but why are you playing differently this time? can you explain that?
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Post Post #770 (isolation #224) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:00 pm

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In post 767, Marquis wrote:
In post 762, DkKoba wrote:marquis why am I scum?

please. you STILL have yet to explain how I'm scum LOL
you really need to stop this bullshit like this fucking gaslighting is starting to go beyond scum manipulation I've been explaining myself at the start and throughout my posts thereafter.

I keep explaining myself, you keep cherrypicking parts you don't like and jumping around other topics and posting 20 times a page until it's lost in the noise, you claim I haven't explained myself again, and wonder aloud like a fucking asshole why I'm choosing to not engage with you
if you've explained so well where is the wagon on me <3 . <3
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Post Post #771 (isolation #225) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:03 pm

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btw manipulation isnt even alignment indicative for me, i have multiple games where i've been manipulative as town to get the game to a state that I want, including this one. im not even gaslighting you, im just exhausting your arguments because you have none and want to get you to begrudgingly accept im town <3 so have fun with that knowledge. being mean is not alignment indicative. only noob players think it is.
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Post Post #772 (isolation #226) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 768, Marquis wrote:I'm logging out this is a dramatic exit bye
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Post Post #774 (isolation #227) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:08 pm

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marquis: why wont anyone listen to me???
also marquis: refuses to provide evidence, help the game state, share any sort of analysis, hardfocuses on mechs and draws faulty conclusions.

like dude if u want to actually at least be average at this game then take the first step and actually play by driving discussions. if you want short days with quick votes and eliminations im sure chat mafia is a good medium for you.


like i seriously dont give a fuck that you fos me at this point its that u refuse to even read outside of me or make any reads outside of me.

and if the general consensus is to PL u i wont stop them. usually i stop PLs but for you? I won't.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #228) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:09 pm

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actually i can do this the other way around.

ari, can you tell us what marquis has been saying in the neighbor chat to you? does he have any reads you can share for us?

if you're afraid to do that we'll find that as scummy btw.

also how many pages long is your PT perchance?
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Post Post #776 (isolation #229) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:10 pm

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good pagetop
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Post Post #777 (isolation #230) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:11 pm

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anyways pooky is obvious FN wifoming and anyone who doesnt follow them is prob scum
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Post Post #781 (isolation #231) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 778, Adorable wrote:
In post 769, DkKoba wrote:ok but why are you playing differently this time? can you explain that?
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The post of mine you quoted is the game where one of the town players was scum reading me for meta and I flipped town.
yes but I am looking at that game with the knowledge you are town and i am seeing that is your town play and that is different from your play here. not sure why its relevant that they hanged u for meta there.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #232) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:43 pm

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In post 782, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 728, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 720, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 718, DkKoba wrote:
In post 716, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 714, DkKoba wrote:oh so you lurking but not contributing?
Lmfao I don't need to respond to every post immediately.

There's a difference between lurking and coming back to this later.
Any reason you tend to dodge questions that ask for analysis?
Uhhhh no?
What did I dodge? Might have missed it.
@Koba in case you missed it.
im asking u for Marquis' reads since ur in the same neighborhood now.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #233) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:44 pm

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also i forgot by now, its not important anymore if i dont remember.
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Post Post #793 (isolation #234) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:52 pm

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In post 785, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 775, DkKoba wrote:actually i can do this the other way around.

ari, can you tell us what marquis has been saying in the neighbor chat to you? does he have any reads you can share for us?

if you're afraid to do that we'll find that as scummy btw.

also how many pages long is your PT perchance?
I don't think any of this will help us tbh.

The PT is the PT and it is not why either of us have our reads on each other.

Sorry Koba.
Not afraid, fyi, just no point.
u want everyone to claim their role, but u cant even be honest about ur PT? where there's at least 1 town?



seriously we should just PL u bc marquis is obv town anyways i guess. esp when adorbs flips scum
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Post Post #797 (isolation #235) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:57 pm

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whats the purpose of your question?

I'll explain the purpose of mine:

i want to gain more info from the perspective of marquis and your discussions.

I want the info that is helpful that you've shared there for us.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #236) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:57 pm

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lmaoooo u are so fake mad rn
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Post Post #800 (isolation #237) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:58 pm

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what are u mad about?

something i decided to drop?

asking you to share reads from ur hoodmate?

is that really such a terrible thing I'm asking you to do?

is it UNREASONABLE?
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Post Post #801 (isolation #238) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 799, Aristophanes wrote:Inb4 Koba is mad and calls me something rude while questioning my intellect and talking down to me.
ok but you're definitely fake mad to avoid answering anything now LOL

can you answer why ur pretending to be mad? I'm not even remotely close to trying to lead on u atm.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #239) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:01 pm

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I don't just insist im right without providing evidence.

its amazing how u want to call me out for that but ignore marquis when he does it worse LOL

do you not see the cognitive dissonance?
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Post Post #807 (isolation #240) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:05 pm

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hey pooky wanna know what i did that was manipulation as town?


remember votato?

In newbie 2003 i hammered him in 5 way so that in 3 way he wouldnt be there even tho i townread him because he was hardtunneling me and that would have led to a loss.

i ended up getting nightkilled and didnt make it to final 3.

im not afraid to play dirty like that.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #241) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:07 pm

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so you think marquis is pro town to hide their thoughts while pushing to out the PR to be nightkilled n1?


you have said you'd like to PL me so hop off your high ground.

you don't like it so much huh? so maybe knock it off towards me.

Your refusal to comply is scummy.
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Post Post #813 (isolation #242) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:08 pm

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In post 809, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 807, DkKoba wrote:hey pooky wanna know what i did that was manipulation as town?


remember votato?

In newbie 2003 i hammered him in 5 way so that in 3 way he wouldnt be there even tho i townread him because he was hardtunneling me and that would have led to a loss.

i ended up getting nightkilled and didnt make it to final 3.

im not afraid to play dirty like that.
ok that's not manipulation at all
i manipulated votato into thinking that i will vote someone else and then that someone else voted votato and i hammered votato
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Post Post #815 (isolation #243) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:08 pm

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but can we talk about how ari is actually really fake mad bc they are doing the same thing they're accusing of to me + so is marquis?
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Post Post #818 (isolation #244) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:09 pm

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i can tell when someone is fake mad bc i have done it more times than you have played mafia games @ari.

don't pretend like I can't see u exaggerating simple annoyance at having to comply with a reasonable request.
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Post Post #819 (isolation #245) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:10 pm

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oh no they brought out the caps lock !! LAMISA

look at me im so angry
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Post Post #823 (isolation #246) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:12 pm

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its ok ari just vote adorable and we can end the day phase and we can be 1 scum cleaner.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #247) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:13 pm

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its a game bruv i play to win relax.

sometimes that means pulling out all the stops(within reason)

but i can tell ur exaggerating.

so just like.

vote adorable lets keep the game going.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #248) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:15 pm

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i have no need to atm.
because adorable is scum
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Post Post #831 (isolation #249) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:15 pm

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also TN is their scumpartner which is why they have been sidelining this whole day waiting to latch onto a wagon.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #250) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:16 pm

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but without bringing attention to themselves.
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Post Post #835 (isolation #251) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:18 pm

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if adorable slot flips scum and marq vote me d2 ill actually laugh. but a sad laugh. like a "why are you like this" type of laugh.
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Post Post #837 (isolation #252) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:22 pm

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i said i forgot.

i am being honest.

and i mean it when i say that if i forgot its probably something already answered thru ur posts / does not matter bc new information.

just let it go.

and as for TN, i think its more of a very strong hunch based on their very confident casing of me way too early via an omgus and subsequent hedgy/backlining behavior.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #253) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:39 pm

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In post 844, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 837, DkKoba wrote:i said i forgot.

i am being honest.

and i mean it when i say that if i forgot its probably something already answered thru ur posts / does not matter bc new information.

just let it go.

and as for TN, i think its more of a very strong hunch based on their very confident casing of me way too early via an omgus and subsequent hedgy/backlining behavior.
Fine.

So your case is: Gutpings off of them creating content to move us out of RVS.

Compelling.

It wasn't gutpings lol. they were trying to case me as hard scum. like i was like wtf??

and i was the one who initiated that push onto them when they reacted so whats ur point? lol i can be scum for that but they can't?
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Post Post #858 (isolation #254) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:20 pm

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can you explain why you dont have your vote on anyone??
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Post Post #859 (isolation #255) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:21 pm

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also it looks like stale votes to me
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Post Post #861 (isolation #256) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:22 pm

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thats spicy
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Post Post #867 (isolation #257) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:42 pm

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In post 863, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 858, DkKoba wrote:can you explain why you dont have your vote on anyone??
Sure!

I am waiting for Adorable to come back into the thread with their promised content.

You would be my next vote, as a Utility Elimination (PL, again working on phrasing)

Next would be all null slots.

But I want to get info out of people vefore throwing my vote around.
there is no positive utility in eliminating me unless you are scum
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Post Post #869 (isolation #258) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:53 pm

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i will keep arguing it until you drop this idea.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #259) » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:45 pm

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Post Post #879 (isolation #260) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:08 am

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Strange you conclude my scumrange based on 2 games i have.
Are you sure you didnt mean "townrange"?

also i know pooky is low efforting but it feels like that thing where he is just setting up meta to be able to be lazy in the future lol. Just feels that way? At least i dont have the urge to elim them d1
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Post Post #881 (isolation #261) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:28 am

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or maybe the FN has been trying to hide this whole time because theyd very much like to live to d2 and singling them out is antitown bc when mafia kill in unclears its always better for town (((:
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Post Post #897 (isolation #262) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 am

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yo the fact that is true plus combined with ur meta showing a different style and you havent been able to explain why youre different this game makes me think ur scum here adorable
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Post Post #898 (isolation #263) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 am

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also i have solodifed 2 scum reads on you and tn
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Post Post #901 (isolation #264) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:22 am

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Never said fake mad = scum, why are you trying to misrep what i said?
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Post Post #903 (isolation #265) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:23 am

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and i cited actual reasons but keep trying to lie about it <3 will do your case that you are town wonders <3<3
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Post Post #904 (isolation #266) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:23 am

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mad bc bad :( u hate to see it
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Post Post #906 (isolation #267) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:27 am

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why the fuck you lyinnnn
Why you always lyingggg
Mmmm oh my god

Stop fucking lyinggggg ~~~~
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Post Post #911 (isolation #268) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:02 am

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tn heavily shaded me way too early for a town player to shade someone, as someone who was overreacting to a light fos on them. this is why i am still fosing tn because they are purposefully only hardfocusing on me and refusing to engage on other players and gamesolve.

already explained this before but i will repeat it again.

i townread marquis because i read their scumgame and they have a vastly different playstyle. more cautious. they do not care as much.

are you around to engage piergeiron?

also where are you at wrt Adorable tn5421?
how do you read the majority feeling bad about them?
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Post Post #913 (isolation #269) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 910, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:This could very well be town-indicative if we think they are simply clearing the distraction of playstyle naysayers from their scumhunting, although this line of thinking could just as well lead to the conclusion that it is not indicative of any particular alignment and instead a "game experience"-oriented reaction.

im sorry but what the fuck does this mean lol
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Post Post #914 (isolation #270) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:09 am

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ok tn but what about adorable, most of the table heavily fos's them. im sure you have an opinion on them.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #271) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:21 am

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Or perhaps there is a key difference i have already pointed out? Lol
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Post Post #917 (isolation #272) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:28 am

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you're saying "these 2 players are fosing me the same way so i have to assume they have the same exact motivation by only looking at that action"

come the fuck on.
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Post Post #919 (isolation #273) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:32 am

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marquis actually has given reads on more people than you have TN.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #274) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:41 am

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wait lmao u said i townread adorable.

that has to be a slip LMAO.

why did u make a mistake like that???
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Post Post #922 (isolation #275) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:44 am

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i dont believe i ever townread them just that i liked that they at least outted something. now do you scumread adorable then?
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Post Post #925 (isolation #276) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:47 am

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if anything i outted a fake townread so i could get them to trust me. (i love to reverse pocket scum and get them to spew <3)
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Post Post #929 (isolation #277) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:26 am

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yikes
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Post Post #930 (isolation #278) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:27 am

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lets just hang the slot so no one has to deal with subbing into a scum slot
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Post Post #932 (isolation #279) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:36 am

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do u tr them?
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Post Post #933 (isolation #280) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 927, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:
In post 916, DkKoba wrote:Or perhaps there is a key difference i have already pointed out? Lol
Elaborate? I'm not sure you are following.
In post 917, DkKoba wrote:you're saying "these 2 players are fosing me the same way so i have to assume they have the same exact motivation by only looking at that action"

come the fuck on.
Is this directed at me or at tn5421?
you
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Post Post #940 (isolation #281) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:49 pm

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ok and
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Post Post #942 (isolation #282) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:10 pm

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ok but ur argument still sucks lol
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Post Post #943 (isolation #283) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:13 pm

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"ur posting too much so u have to be scum"
is the weakest argument u can make for me being scum. i literally outted what behavior i exhibit as scum wrt my strategy but please go on about how my post count = scum motivated.
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Post Post #947 (isolation #284) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 945, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Koba
wanna explain?
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Post Post #949 (isolation #285) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 936, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:That isn't what I am saying at all. Their motivation is obvious to me. You say the difference between their approaches is that one is scum-motivated and the other is town. I am questioning why then you talk to them the same way.
if you mean condescendingly, its because they have done not much to earn my respect wrt their skill at this game.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #286) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:25 pm

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In post 948, Aristophanes wrote:Do you have a readslist for me with explained reasoning?
i can give that, yes.
i think readlists are in general useless after some experience in games. i have made it obvious what my reads are. but i will entertain this offer.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #287) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:32 pm

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Aristophanes - as much as i hate to say it this slot is probably town playing anti-town.
tn5421 - scum. i already brought up their terrible omgus on me + their refusal to make any reads outside of me. they questioned that i townread adorable? but have yet to out a read on adorable. feels like spewing there too.
Cats (anonymous hydra) - townlean - they solving and interacting and driving pushes what more can u want? no but fr i think
Marquis - town. matches their town meta, which is pretty fucking obvious
Raya36 - townlean. this one is more of a little gut.
Piergeiron the Paladinson - their words sound nice. i still am not sure where to put them but they're solving so hey
DkKoba - most obvious town on this planet motherfuckers
PookyTheMagicalBear - town, if only because i think there's some merit to them playing the way they are and hteir most recent post reads as town esp whos frustrated with upholding the gimmick they're doing. i hate gimmicks but pooky is scumhunting still.
Adorable - scum. does not match their town style of early play. as town they have more solid interactions while they were not able to explain why they were different this game. (i gave them a chance to explain and they complained about something that wasn't even applicable)
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Post Post #954 (isolation #288) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:34 pm

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thats all from memory baybee
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Post Post #957 (isolation #289) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:43 pm

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god i really fucking hate bringing up my own meta but fuck i put in this much effort in EVERY GAME.


would u be willing to look at a few of my town games for me Marquis? like as an act of good faith. if you still think im scum after thats fair but at least let me show u
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Post Post #960 (isolation #290) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:47 pm

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Post Post #962 (isolation #291) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:49 pm

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scumreading someone because they actually give a fuck is kinda grimy ngl like im kinda hurt u think that bc i care about the game and just because you dont care as much about winning as I do that I have to be mafia.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #292) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:50 pm

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like ur literally making this game lowkey unenjoyable when i have to play with knowledge that town has a handicap with 1 vote that refuses to budge.

i wish u actually cared about winning and would listen to arguements and put in good faith but i guess ill just have to dodge you in the future.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #293) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:52 pm

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sorry but im like tipsy as fuck and tired of ur constant tunnelling on me when ive shown you over and over again how your premise is wrong and that you are only convinced from a faulty premise.

i literally townread you my dude. like do you think scum!me would not be calling for your head?? look at nomination mafia: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=83486 look at how i was defensive with my reads. i scumread ppl for fosing me. varsoon scared me because they could actually read me properly(his analysis on me is a good read i suggest you read it to see how i do slip up as scum)
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Post Post #968 (isolation #294) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 964, Marquis wrote:trying sooo ondmfgdgdghfgucking hgard to not get modkilled rn
if you can't rationally explain your read on me then its probably not a good read. please understand that. this is a mistake i have made before and I really want to win dude. like this is a social game not a "shoot darts and hope we guess right on first guess" game.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #295) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:57 pm

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TIL its gaslighting to present evidence that contradicts someones argument
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Post Post #972 (isolation #296) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 969, Marquis wrote:you need to stop being a fucking asshole like if your modus operandi on this site is to shut down opposition by gaslighting them as to what they have or have not said and being emotionally abusive there should not be a place for you here. all the flight from this site and all the people i've played with who have left have done so bc of ppl like you taking their behavior too far that's all.
this is a game about discussion and arguing.

this isnt the game for you if you're going to refuse to engage and use logic.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #297) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:59 pm

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i wish i was in a neighborhood with pooky bc at least we could shitpost together without anyone caring lol
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Post Post #976 (isolation #298) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 965, Cats wrote:Pooky, can you get back to me on what I was asking you about Puff?

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I don't think Puff is ESL because the grammar and everything is fundamentally perfect. I don't know if she is purposefully choosing to be robotic.

I have tried to get her to respond to me in real time as I feel that it makes for a better conversation and the flow is easier to pick up on AI material but she has been very careful to avoid responding to me promptly.

Like honestly if she had just been like "you're being dumb let's talking about this instead" I would've been more ok with that but there's a certain "carefulness" in her voice that makes me worried about her.

This is of course a guess and art and not exactly logically great stuff but I'm more of an emotional player than a logical one tho I am trying to get my logical thing down better.
I concur that I have also made a similar analysis on that slot.
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Post Post #978 (isolation #299) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 973, Aristophanes wrote:
Spoiler: Koba's readslist
In post 953, DkKoba wrote:Aristophanes - as much as i hate to say it this slot is probably town playing anti-town.
tn5421 - scum. i already brought up their terrible omgus on me + their refusal to make any reads outside of me. they questioned that i townread adorable? but have yet to out a read on adorable. feels like spewing there too.
Cats (anonymous hydra) - townlean - they solving and interacting and driving pushes what more can u want? no but fr i think
Marquis - town. matches their town meta, which is pretty fucking obvious
Raya36 - townlean. this one is more of a little gut.
Piergeiron the Paladinson - their words sound nice. i still am not sure where to put them but they're solving so hey
DkKoba - most obvious town on this planet motherfuckers
PookyTheMagicalBear - town, if only because i think there's some merit to them playing the way they are and hteir most recent post reads as town esp whos frustrated with upholding the gimmick they're doing. i hate gimmicks but pooky is scumhunting still.
Adorable - scum. does not match their town style of early play. as town they have more solid interactions while they were not able to explain why they were different this game. (i gave them a chance to explain and they complained about something that wasn't even applicable)

Koba, I really appreciate this. I could tell it was from memory due to the speed and detail, but the clarification was welcomed.

If you don't mind my asking about a few of the reads...

Aristophanes - may I ask how my play is antitown?
Like, is this based on my agreement with the mech play Marquis proposed, my voting you right now, or something else? (And/or a combination of them of course.) If it is based on the Mech play, why was that not noted in your Marquis read or Pooky/Adorable-slot who are now outed as well?

Adorable - do you think they alwere damning enough to elim based on that alone or would you like to see something from the replacement. Could you tell me why you hold the decided view?

Raya - they do seem null. Would you consider pressure voting them in order to get activity from them?

I'll leave it there I think.

Thanks again,
UNVOTE:
This is a good start to things!


....that's a helluva lot of ninjas.
if the replacement makes post that indicate they are Town then yes. but otherwise No.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #300) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:02 pm

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marquis has literally 0 meta on me because I play mostly micros while they play mostly large theme games. non normal ones i might add.

i prefer small open setups and micros because i hate having to sort more than 8 other slots.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #301) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:04 pm

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i think ari's use of their vote to force me to answer a question leans town indicative.

idk just something about the move feels powerful and towny to me so im just gonna say it.
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Post Post #981 (isolation #302) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:06 pm

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i guess we arent hanging the adorable slot b4 GB can find a replacement so imma make my vote more useful : VOTE: tn

hopefully they stop lying abt my play and what it means <3
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Post Post #983 (isolation #303) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:13 pm

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but fr are the rooms rly that spooky
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Post Post #985 (isolation #304) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:18 pm

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i mean i know the creepy theory that the backrooms is based on so its not a new concept so i guess it is probably scary LOL
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Post Post #986 (isolation #305) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:36 pm

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tfw the buzz REALLY hits and no one is around to interact with drunk!koba :(
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Post Post #988 (isolation #306) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:39 pm

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if they were willing to hang the clear FN i would be happy to be FREE of this game bc then town just deserves the L LMAO
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Post Post #989 (isolation #307) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:42 pm

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alright i was going through my subscriptions but if u wanna see into the mind of scum!koba, i spew my thoughjts into scumchat just as much as i do as town into the public chat. viewtopic.php?f=94&t=83488
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Post Post #996 (isolation #308) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 2:59 pm

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In post 994, Cats wrote:Sigh, is that really a FN claim?

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i am not claiming.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #309) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:08 pm

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hydra dissonance u hate to see it :(
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #310) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:19 pm

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oh wait that was post 1000!! happy 1000th post!
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #311) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:05 pm

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..... why did u do that piergon i told u not to do that
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #312) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:05 pm

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well theres no point in trying to deny it but yeah
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #313) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:20 pm

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im drunk and dont know what roleswappy bs is going on but im gonna go along wit hanything at this point
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #314) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:22 pm

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same
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #315) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:22 pm

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wait are u mocking me
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #316) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:24 pm

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i TR cats bc i thought they were FN btw
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #317) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:25 pm

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In post 1015, Cats wrote:
In post 5, DkKoba wrote:VOTE: midwaybear meow hello
Actually, I think you'll find we're neighbours with Koba. They clearly crumbed it here.

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bruh thats literally my first post LMFOA what
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #318) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:29 pm

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i am 3 steps ahead of u
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #319) » Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:31 pm

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shh......................
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #320) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am

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VOTE: jankofan so sorry u replaced into a scum slot
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #321) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:30 am

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also im glad my early townread was correct :D
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #322) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:30 am

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we go janko > ari > pooky and game is solved.

marquis never flips scum here.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #323) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:30 am

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(also i believe you owe me an apology marquis)
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #324) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:31 am

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In post 1046, tn5421 wrote:I'm going to preface this with an acknowledgement that I've never been very good at scum.
I only have a total win rate of 27% as scum over my career.

That said, I tried my best to simply play from a town perspective this game, despite not being town.

Upon reflection, being too cautious and not death tunneling DkKoba was probably a sign to those that know me that something was not right. I am an angry, gut-fueled player, and the slow logical push just doesn't seem to work well for me despite it theoretically being objectively better play.

With that said, I'd like to single out a player for being particularly awful all game.

Koba, you're a disgusting human being and the site would benefit from your absense.

I'm something of a tryhard that gives a lot of fucks about his win-loss record, so the fact that I'm willing to throw the game to get away from you really should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about you.

Thank god the foes list exists. And thank god I don't have any more stake in this absolute catastrope you guys call mafia.

Guess even a fucking idiot can get lucky w/ their "reads" once in a while.

VOTE: tn5421

and now i can finally respond to this: you got owned bc u were obvious. not from luck lol.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #325) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:31 am

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im riding the high off a recent win i just got so lets FUCKING GOOOOOOO
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #326) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:34 am

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oh i thought we were gonna just be ambiguous today .


well do u have any reads from them ?
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #327) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 1064, Raya36 wrote:I need to read up. I thought I was gonna die for being conftown but now I gotta pick up my slack!
wow so scummy :P
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #328) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:46 am

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anything of note that TN said in the hood? honestly thats a huge throw since one would very much be aware of that. makes me feel someone less mechanically knowledgeable did that kill.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #329) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:47 am

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ok also if anyone is wondering how i got that roleswap off:

the role pm says "at any point in the game" not just at night.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #330) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:08 am

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In post 1073, tn5421 wrote:
In post 1059, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1046, tn5421 wrote:I'm going to preface this with an acknowledgement that I've never been very good at scum.
I only have a total win rate of 27% as scum over my career.

That said, I tried my best to simply play from a town perspective this game, despite not being town.

Upon reflection, being too cautious and not death tunneling DkKoba was probably a sign to those that know me that something was not right. I am an angry, gut-fueled player, and the slow logical push just doesn't seem to work well for me despite it theoretically being objectively better play.

With that said, I'd like to single out a player for being particularly awful all game.

Koba, you're a disgusting human being and the site would benefit from your absense.

I'm something of a tryhard that gives a lot of fucks about his win-loss record, so the fact that I'm willing to throw the game to get away from you really should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about you.

Thank god the foes list exists. And thank god I don't have any more stake in this absolute catastrope you guys call mafia.

Guess even a fucking idiot can get lucky w/ their "reads" once in a while.

VOTE: tn5421

and now i can finally respond to this: you got owned bc u were obvious. not from luck lol.
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please stop acting as if you possess skill and take a good hard look at yourself
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #331) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:11 am

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its ok its already autowin. the solve is easy.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #332) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:14 am

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or... you can help solve (:
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #333) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:15 am

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there are 4 unclears and 3 clears . (paladin is clear idgaf what u say abt them i will never ever in my life hang that slot for multiple reasons)
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #334) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:17 am

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rn my order is:

adorable/janko>marquis>ari
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #335) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:18 am

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pretty much everyone not on the tn wagon.

because tn self hammered i very much DOUBT there was a bus, esp from Pooky.

i was lowkey worried abt cats but i didnt die so we gucci
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #336) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:25 am

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First 2 are bc those are scum that tn prob likely wouldn't have thrown against as
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #337) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:36 am

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Im literally clear u doofus
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #338) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:16 am

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Hm i may change my poe then.
janko->pooky->marquis
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #339) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:22 am

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I roleswap with cats who tells pigeon obviously because pigeon claims with me -> an unclear dies.
I think that makes them clear to me.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #340) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:23 am

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if pigeon doesnt die by lylo i would reconsider but other than that its pretty clear cut.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #341) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 am

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Inch resting
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #342) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:41 pm

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I'm convinced. I'll get pooky first. VOTE: pooky[/pooky]
Dont think this doesn't mean you're not next if this flips town janko
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #343) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:41 pm

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VOTE: pooky
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #344) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:41 pm

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id like to see input from marquis after their apology tomorrow when theyre off vla
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #345) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:40 pm

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Janko u good?
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #346) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:52 pm

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Well at worst we get a cointoss situation since we have 3 clears.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #347) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:53 pm

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scum!paladin kills raya everytime.
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #348) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:12 pm

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Intent to hammer 48 hrs
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #349) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:24 pm

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nah marquis deserves that policy in lylo. I dont see ari/tn
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #350) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:43 pm

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also marquis if you read this and you quickhammer im hanging you instead first tomorrow if I'm alive.
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Post Post #1175 (isolation #351) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:44 pm

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yoink
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #352) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:15 am

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I think marquis actually is most likely to be scum here actually.
Now that i consider everything
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #353) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:16 am

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In post 367, Marquis wrote:ok done
can we start claiming neighbors
mine is aristo and he is town


rn im at:

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Aristophanes - practically confirmed town metawise but it's meta that's never been wrong for me



tn5421 - vibes
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Raya36 - page 1 and 2 posting feels genuine in a way scum fake


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midwaybear - i feel that their posts amount to agreeing with what they see as optimal plays and no reads that come from actual personal analysis
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really like the idea of letting conftown lead d1 to a lynch quickly
really dont like koba yelling it down dismissively feels performative yet again throughout

tn playing exactly as expected reads town
In post 60, DkKoba wrote:alright imma out a quick page 3 vibe check:

GOOD VIBES:

MIDWAY, CATS

NEUTRAL VIBES:

POOKY

BAD VIBES:

RAYA TN
kept coming back to this bc it's literally the opposite of my readslist rn
i laughed considering a scenario where koba is 100% loud and 100% wrong town would be the only thing making me reconsider this but it just makes more sense to be scum and also i dont want to think theyre town
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also continuing to vibe extremely hard with tn this whole thread maybe its bc im old now
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #354) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:17 am

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In post 370, Marquis wrote:tn if you could also votepark on koba itd help
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #355) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:21 am

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yeah how did i ever townread marquis their whole iso is tunneling me LOL. They are summarized as : pushing the same bad mech play as tn, outting a single reads list, and hardtunneling me.
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i think we win with this today
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #356) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:21 am

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and its consistent with tn rage
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #357) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:26 am

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In post 969, Marquis wrote:you need to stop being a fucking asshole like if your modus operandi on this site is to shut down opposition by gaslighting them as to what they have or have not said and being emotionally abusive there should not be a place for you here. all the flight from this site and all the people i've played with who have left have done so bc of ppl like you taking their behavior too far that's all.
Sounds like this makes sense as to why TN made his play :shifty:
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #358) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:31 am

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Like this reeks of tmi of knowing how another certain person feels in scum chat.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #359) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:32 am

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ping @marquis

ur vla is up come back ty.
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #360) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:32 am

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Post Post #1196 (isolation #361) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 1195, Marquis wrote:Hi. I'll admit Koba is probably town here but literally only by association so I'm not apologizing lmao. Just not sure why everyone is saying more words instead of ending it here

VOTE: Janko
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #362) » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:25 am

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In post 1199, Marquis wrote:Why am I getting paranoid now
Because the lynch pool is too narrow for you to escape because you were tricked into killing an unclear? (;
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #363) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:47 am

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lmfao it really was that easy huh
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #364) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:11 am

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Marquis didnt really do anything to either towntell or scum tell it was just a toxic play to just hardtunnel me the way i was but the longer jt went on the more obv it was (i thought solve was ari/marquis bc my kill cleared pooky LOL)
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #365) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:29 am

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In post 1046, tn5421 wrote:I'm going to preface this with an acknowledgement that I've never been very good at scum.
I only have a total win rate of 27% as scum over my career.

That said, I tried my best to simply play from a town perspective this game, despite not being town.

Upon reflection, being too cautious and not death tunneling DkKoba was probably a sign to those that know me that something was not right. I am an angry, gut-fueled player, and the slow logical push just doesn't seem to work well for me despite it theoretically being objectively better play.

With that said, I'd like to single out a player for being particularly awful all game.

Koba, you're a disgusting human being and the site would benefit from your absense.

I'm something of a tryhard that gives a lot of fucks about his win-loss record, so the fact that I'm willing to throw the game to get away from you really should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about you.

Thank god the foes list exists. And thank god I don't have any more stake in this absolute catastrope you guys call mafia.

Guess even a fucking idiot can get lucky w/ their "reads" once in a while.

VOTE: tn5421
Also i can finally link this god tier salt into my sig.
Thanks tn you were too obvious for your own good <3 if i ever say i have someone locktowned on d1(marquis) its usually just a reverse pocket in case they are scum
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Post Post #1489 (isolation #366) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 am

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In post 1488, midwaybear wrote:I was a player in this game. Good job town and good job Paladin.
Sad you didnt tough it through!! But i did PR read you when you were in the game which i mentioned in my hood :lol:
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #367) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 am

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Cats post yes in our hood so it can get released pls :D
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #368) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:35 am

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In post 1496, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1484, DkKoba wrote:
In post 1046, tn5421 wrote:I'm going to preface this with an acknowledgement that I've never been very good at scum.
I only have a total win rate of 27% as scum over my career.

That said, I tried my best to simply play from a town perspective this game, despite not being town.

Upon reflection, being too cautious and not death tunneling DkKoba was probably a sign to those that know me that something was not right. I am an angry, gut-fueled player, and the slow logical push just doesn't seem to work well for me despite it theoretically being objectively better play.

With that said, I'd like to single out a player for being particularly awful all game.

Koba, you're a disgusting human being and the site would benefit from your absense.

I'm something of a tryhard that gives a lot of fucks about his win-loss record, so the fact that I'm willing to throw the game to get away from you really should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about you.

Thank god the foes list exists. And thank god I don't have any more stake in this absolute catastrope you guys call mafia.

Guess even a fucking idiot can get lucky w/ their "reads" once in a while.

VOTE: tn5421
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #369) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:58 am

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Id love to play this setup again btw. I love hoods
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #370) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 1500, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:koba mvp for drawing aggro :D
im used to getting pushed on in general so I can usually tell when its a scum/town motivated push. you are one of the few who have fooled me with a genuine alignment telling push :P this game was kinda my peak since i got to show off my skills at roleswapping!
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #371) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:25 pm

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Oh goddmanit i keep alt slipping
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #372) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:40 pm

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second sentence was for u ari btw.
and tn/marquis, maybe consider you were extremely toxic the way you played even if as scum since clearly you were 2 both upset with me and took out that frustration on me. I'm always perfectly willing to be civil and do it the questioning way instead of resorting to emotion but when push comes to shove im going to call you an ass when you're being an ass. as soon as tn did their little gambit i knew one of my reads was wrong which was why i switched to marquis on d2 lmfao. i was more afraid of getting scumread by paladin tho and him getting NKed instaed of me so i was passive af. always a mistake.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #373) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:42 pm

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btw cats' and I's PT is open now, it was actually pretty long because I spammed it too to vent thoughts and used it as a notes PT. I didn't even let cats avoid pressure and honestly if a skilled player carefully read our interactions in thread it woulda been obv we were neighbors LOL
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #374) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:04 pm

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In post 1511, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1505, WindowsXP wrote:and idk how to put this but you have to be willing to take pressure in a mafia game. this game was me toned down. I tend to be much shitter towards ppl who bad faith push me and i just have 0 patience for that shit and i will grill them into the ground but I'm generally here to play a game and win and not really to be extra nice.
I understand and respect that style I suppose, but it is not something I am generally down for?

On the plus side, even as scum I rarely make bad-faith pushes so that's a blessing in my direction :P


Uhmmm, sorry for a) supporting a bad scum agenda in D1 and b) being unreceptive towards you.
I'm happy with how all of this played out though and I'm glad I was read properly and made the read properly in the end.

I'd like to see you in a different environment tbh, maybe we will play again.
what was the scum agenda? I think I of anyone should be listened to after assisting in a successful roleswap that led to TWO unclear slots getting NKed and granting us a 2/3 POE after a D1 scum power hanging.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #375) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:04 pm

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ok sorry that was a bit ego filled but I believed I played optimally for town in my position esp the strategies i chose to employ.
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #376) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 1515, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol 2000 games of chat mafia
its 2K on my main account alone, that doesn't count my alt accounts
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #377) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:13 pm

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Post Post #1518 (isolation #378) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:13 pm

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Post Post #1520 (isolation #379) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:16 pm

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the playstyle meta is generally a lot more toxic and emotion based. but there are players, notably staypositivefriend, who is in the mafia universe championships(and successfully helped get 2 town sweeps in a row which has never happened in that) who use analytical play that is more common in forum play in chat mafia to great success.

meta is more important since you can have 100s of games with someone and understand their play in multiple situations.

pr hunting is common. town roleswaps with PR fairly often. the big weakness is that people tend to play "follow the clear".

overall I think there's much to learn from the enviroment but also a lot to UNlearn which i've learned here xD
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #380) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:50 pm

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In post 1522, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:I thought nothing of DkKoba's first post crumb until their in-thread interactions essentially confirmed this pairing to me, then I figured it had to have been an intentionally obvious crumb.
oops! haha. honestly this is the main reason i flipped off of janko and went straight for marquis bc janko would be smart enough to see that LOL
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #381) » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:54 pm

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I accidentally did all my scumhunting of Cats within the hood and forgot to do it in the thread and then it came off as half assed.
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #382) » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:22 am

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awe i wanted to see pooky's room.

twas my best game so far other than avalon but probably only bc scum were kinda obvious :lol:
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