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Post Post #4253 (isolation #600) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 4252, DkKoba wrote:the lack of a sheeping vote pinged me SO hard. Thats shit i see from scum overplaying all the time
What sheeping vote? What are you even talking about?
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Post Post #4254 (isolation #601) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:25 am

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Let me be very clear - I am not going to take the blame for your bad decisions here. I really do think I’m obvious Town, to the point that I’m finding this both annoying and somewhat amusing. But I’m also trying as hard as I can to be patient so that we actually get a win.

The idea that I’m enough of a magician as Scum that I would purposefully delay a Scum win to Endgame only to play a gambit is absurd. And I’m getting tired of pretending otherwise. Scum is hard enough to play that you take your wins as quickly as you can. You know why? Because people re-evaluate, and they change their minds, or you might make some sort of dumb error that exposes you. There is no world where I pass on a win not once, but twice. If I was trying to set Aldus up for an execution as a “juicy alternative” to Koba, then why did I not urge Koba to switch their vote on Aldus with me when I had the chance? And why do I look outside the investigative in the first place?

You know what exemplifies the typical Scum approach to that situation? Look at what NPOM and VPB did. They were urging everybody to focus on the 1v1 established by VPB, and ignore me. Now THAT is what you would have seen from me as Scum. Or, what Aldus did - not post at all.
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Post Post #4256 (isolation #602) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:53 am

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Bump
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Post Post #4257 (isolation #603) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:53 am

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Just so you know I AM Town.
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Post Post #4258 (isolation #604) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:55 am

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Now we can wait for @Hellbooks to get in here.
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Post Post #4260 (isolation #605) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:15 am

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I mean I can if you want.

VOTE: Alduskkel
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Post Post #4261 (isolation #606) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:16 am

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I wanted you not to have to worry about it in case you thought I was waiting around for VPB to log in or whatever.
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Post Post #4263 (isolation #607) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:50 pm

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In post 4262, Alduskkel wrote:what if... you voted andres? aha ha, just kidding... unless?
Where is your buddy VPB? Because now the only argument you have left is that DkKoba and I are the Team.
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Post Post #4265 (isolation #608) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:00 pm

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Yeah sure. Let's wait a few hours, and see if you are hammered. It won't happen.
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Post Post #4268 (isolation #609) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:10 pm

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I am actually happy right now.

My work here is complete. See you on the other side.
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Post Post #4270 (isolation #610) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:16 pm

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It takes a village. It’s still a team effort.
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Post Post #4271 (isolation #611) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:25 pm

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Yo Koba, have a drink for me before the game is over.
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Post Post #4274 (isolation #612) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:33 pm

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What, you’re not executing VPB the second tomorrow hits? C’mon I’m getting NK’ed here no questions asked. Of course I was Town are you serious hahaha
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Post Post #4277 (isolation #613) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:36 pm

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I was saying to have a celebratory drink. You chose correctly.
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Post Post #4284 (isolation #614) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:25 pm

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Aldus is trolling you, relax. There’s no way VPB doesn’t hammer Aldus if I’m Scum in the what, 5+ hours that your vote was out there? There’s just no way.
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Post Post #4290 (isolation #615) » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:52 pm

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@VPB, you said you would reveal your check in twilight. Why don’t you come and tell us?
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Post Post #4347 (isolation #616) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:42 am

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Listen we went from completely shitting the bed to a victory. I’ll take it.
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Post Post #4348 (isolation #617) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:43 am

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Can somebody post a link to the dead thread? I’m lazy.
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Post Post #4349 (isolation #618) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:43 am

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Ah never mind the Mod did that. Let me read the criticism hahaha it’s my favorite part.
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Post Post #4352 (isolation #619) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:06 am

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VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
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Post Post #4353 (isolation #620) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:07 am

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Ico’s notes are hilarious btw - everybody should read them.
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Post Post #4354 (isolation #621) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:09 am

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In post 4346, DkKoba wrote:aaaaaaaaa im so hyper. big kudos andres for the biggest dick play ive ever seen.
I’m like one of the few people (even in the dead thread) that read you correctly. I’m actually pretty proud of that. You made me doubt it by pushing me so hard, but it all worked out in the end.
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Post Post #4355 (isolation #622) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 am

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In post 4317, DkKoba wrote:gg i was 0/5 lol.

i shoulda been more sus on why aldu quickhammered in a situation where I clearly wanted NPOM...
I did call it the Scummiest hammer ever! Hahaha
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Post Post #4356 (isolation #623) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:12 am

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@Mods, thanks for the game and the effort! Raya I think you did great. If you had not released the actual Role PM’s, would we have still learned what the Mafia JOAT could do? Because that’s what screws VPB right? That’s the only question I would have.
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Post Post #4361 (isolation #624) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:17 am

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In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
I trusted my gut. That’s all I can say about that. I actually had a lot of reservations about your slot, but I kept them to myself in order to push something outside of the 1v1 knowing that I couldn’t convince the Town to flip you instead of Koba.
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Post Post #4365 (isolation #625) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:23 am

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In post 4361, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4358, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 4352, Andresvmb wrote:VPB I agree about the three masons - I felt that was a huge advantage for the Town.

You played great I felt, particularly after getting tracked to a death. The play was great. I really have nothing but compliments for the way you guys pushed us.
Haha, I was so mad at you when you convinced everyone to yeet outside of Koba and me :lol:

You clinched the town win at that point
I trusted my gut. That’s all I can say about that. I actually had a lot of reservations about your slot, but I kept them to myself in order to push something outside of the 1v1 knowing that I couldn’t convince the Town to flip you instead of Koba.
Or at least I should say, far more reservations than the ones I made public. Like I had a strong feeling you would live until the next day hahaha which would convince others about your slot. I just had to get one flip right before.
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Post Post #4366 (isolation #626) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:25 am

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I really want to read the Mason PT - there’s probably so much screaming going on there.
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Post Post #4382 (isolation #627) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 4380, Testarossa wrote:Anyway gg everyone! Fun game with a fun group to play with.

As I already said in the dead pt, really well done by Andres (and Ico) to engage Aldus and NPOM in 1v1s in elo and leaving Baltar alone, caught them quite off guard.

Tough game for Baltar, getting stuck into an early claim is hard, especially if there is "just" Masons as town power. Maybe you would have had more wiggle room with limiting your claim with a modifier. Although I think it wouldn't have changed that much ultimately.
Thank you! I’m glad I tried to save you as hard as I did.

Honestly, well played by the Town all around. Everybody contributed in different ways to ensure a positive outcome. I really do think there was some strong Town play from Bob and Billy here. And that Ico read for sure saved us.
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Post Post #4384 (isolation #628) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:24 am

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In post 4383, bob3141 wrote:And that my entire town block day one that had 6 players were all infact town.
I thought you killed man. I’m sorry for tagging you as Scum - I was on the wrong side of that one.
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Post Post #4415 (isolation #629) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 4405, Menalque wrote:
In post 4349, Andresvmb wrote:Ah never mind the Mod did that. Let me read the criticism hahaha it’s my favorite part.
I thought you played v well for what it’s worth, and while I was SRing you a lot of that was paranoia about your scumgame based on 451 which is, y’know, kind of a compliment
Thanks! This is one of my better games - I’ve had some massive duds too. It’s a good thing that my first completed game on this site actually turned out well for my alignment :lol:

Also, after reading the Mafia PT, I have to say that I have even greater compliments for Aldus. I’m mighty impressed by just how spot on the were about the direction of the game and the right plays to make. A lot to keep in mind if we see each other in any future games.
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #630) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:06 pm

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^They were*
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Post Post #4417 (isolation #631) » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:10 pm

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In post 4402, Testarossa wrote:
In post 4394, VP Baltar wrote: OMG, I totally forgot about this! I was seriously freaking out because you caught my lie there. Datisi picked up on it a little later too, but no one really forced me to comment on my active avoidance of it. I really did not have a good answer and would have been fumbling if pressed on it.
Haha, after reading your D2 in the scum pt I just realize how nervous you actually were. Kind of explains what was so odd with ending D2 so abruptly.

I was absolutely expecting you coming in on D3 with an inno or again no result and then the push would have come, but instead coming in with a correct guilty threw me off. Good guess by Aldus.
This is so true. That correct guess of Hellbooks was crazy. And the fact that they offed the Tracker without having any certainty was also very good.
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