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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:12 pm

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where is there wifom...???

also i'm from 2020, too.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:13 pm

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also, i'll go through your completed games in full tomorrow, i'm too tired for that rn.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:14 pm

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plusjoy's readslist says they think I am acting scummy but they townbinned me due to them thinking I have a "knack of appearing townie as scum"
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:00 pm

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Vote count 1.05

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).


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shellyc [3]:
osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse
teacher [2]:
Tayl0r Swift, Menalque
innocentvillager [2]:
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Ydrasse [1]:
NDMath
NDMath [1]:
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teacher
Tayl0r Swift [1]:
shellyc

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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:00 am

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In post 323, PlusJOYED wrote:It varies person to person and case by case basis, and instinct/gut plays a pretty big role.

General scumtells are safe play, excessive agreeability or desire to please, pocketing, solves/reads are either too flexible or too rigid, not coming across as genuine/appearing to have ulterior motives outside of solving, and/or trying too hard to appear town among other things

This next part is flawed logic, however...
If a player comes across to me as experienced and/or has a join date before 2016 I hold them to a higher standard. They can probably appear town or scum to an extent how they wish. So depending on this I may insert a level of WIFOM to them if they appear partly town or scum depending on circumstance. I.E. an experienced player obvscumming but appears to be solving their way is likely town and an experienced obvtown player with a few cracks of scumtells is likely scum to me.

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...is this part of why you scumread me lol

I thought you found my posts scummy in general though?
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:03 am

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i don’t think I’m “agreeable” or sheepy idk why this label has been slapped on me

I have reads a lot earlier than I say them publicly sometimes

idk how much I vibed with Shellys actual thought process but I agreed with ydrasse and plusjoyed town as my main reads at the time

Ydrasse has a... massive presence this game which seems genuine and the one scumgame ive seen of her was anything but that
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:09 am

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In post 292, PlusJOYED wrote:why? why would you say that? that sounds so scummy

everytime I think about second guessing my hard SR on you you just say something scummy again
why exactly is this scummy to you? why would I necessarily say this at all as scum?

I’m not trying to say it’s townie but I do think in general you should look more behind the intention/motivation of the posts rather than the actual content people choose to produce

if I’m being cagey about something I probably have a reason to be that shouldn’t be discussed for reasons
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:11 am

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In post 312, shellyc wrote:
In post 307, PlusJOYED wrote:I can see how you would see the discrepancy as being AI but in reality I just learned a lot from that first game and gained more confidence in my reads since they turned out pretty close. It's NAI but you don't have to believe me.
IMO confidence is a scumtell

being confident indicates that you are sure about your reads

scum are INFORMED and know if they are right or wrong
this is super situation and context dependent I don’t think these sweeping tells matter
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 am

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In post 15, Ydrasse wrote:ndmath, shall we do battle?
No. UNVOTE: ydrasse
In post 58, osuka wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager is obvscumming
Can you elaborate as to why you think this?

I too think ydrasse is very likely town.

I don't really get most of the reasonings in Plusjoyed readlist, .
To be specific:
'unique way of rvs', 'going against the grain and taking a risk', 'gone largely unnoticed'

Don't get what is getting at since shelly had several contributing posts.
I dislike how is anti-reads and the comment about votes not moving doesn't make sense.
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:22 am

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333 literally agrees with all the majority town views

many have stated that ydrasse is obvtowning
"don't really get reasoning" is fence-sitting imo
voting taylor agrees with me and plus' thoughts
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:23 am

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not saying that's a very AI thing but agreeing with others does not help us scumhunt
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:24 am

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In post 333, NDMath wrote:
In post 15, Ydrasse wrote:ndmath, shall we do battle?
No. UNVOTE: ydrasse
In post 58, osuka wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager is obvscumming
Can you elaborate as to why you think this?

I too think ydrasse is very likely town.

I don't really get most of the reasonings in Plusjoyed readlist, .
To be specific:
'unique way of rvs', 'going against the grain and taking a risk', 'gone largely unnoticed'

Don't get what is getting at since shelly had several contributing posts.
I dislike how is anti-reads and the comment about votes not moving doesn't make sense.
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which parts of my first impressions would you like me to elaborate on?
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:27 am

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In post 329, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 323, PlusJOYED wrote:It varies person to person and case by case basis, and instinct/gut plays a pretty big role.

General scumtells are safe play, excessive agreeability or desire to please, pocketing, solves/reads are either too flexible or too rigid, not coming across as genuine/appearing to have ulterior motives outside of solving, and/or trying too hard to appear town among other things

This next part is flawed logic, however...
If a player comes across to me as experienced and/or has a join date before 2016 I hold them to a higher standard. They can probably appear town or scum to an extent how they wish. So depending on this I may insert a level of WIFOM to them if they appear partly town or scum depending on circumstance. I.E. an experienced player obvscumming but appears to be solving their way is likely town and an experienced obvtown player with a few cracks of scumtells is likely scum to me.

Headed to bed for now
...is this part of why you scumread me lol

I thought you found my posts scummy in general though?
scummy given context and gut feel too. Your posts are scummy to me still
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 am

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sorry plus I’m not being clear, I’m specifically referring to the latter half of that post about “wifom”. I am an experience player with join date before 2016 so it seems like you would townread me by that logic but you maintain I’m scummy
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:41 am

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In post 335, shellyc wrote:not saying that's a very AI thing but agreeing with others does not help us scumhunt
i disagree I think agreeing says a lot
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:42 am

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how would it say anything when everyone lazily sheeps the protown view
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:43 am

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*the prevailing town view
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:47 am

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it gives people a sense of who believes it and who doesn’t

like if you agreed with something genuinely you would still say it that doesn’t make you scum

while hot takes are cool not everything needs to be a hot take for it to be pro town

sometimes the consensus is just kind of right
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:49 am

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interesting mafia theory

sometimes the prevailing view is correct

but having a different view indicates an independent thought process which gives us more to work with imo
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 312, shellyc wrote:
In post 307, PlusJOYED wrote:I can see how you would see the discrepancy as being AI but in reality I just learned a lot from that first game and gained more confidence in my reads since they turned out pretty close. It's NAI but you don't have to believe me.
IMO confidence is a scumtell

being confident indicates that you are sure about your reads

scum are INFORMED and know if they are right or wrong
In post 316, shellyc wrote:look at my completed games

i post in a very sure attitude and it's not AI

indicates that they agree with my TR on them and instead of adding anything to it they just latch on and do nothing else.
says "only read TR" without a real explanation
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:04 am

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In post 338, innocentvillager wrote:sorry plus I’m not being clear, I’m specifically referring to the latter half of that post about “wifom”. I am an experience player with join date before 2016 so it seems like you would townread me by that logic but you maintain I’m scummy
normally I would townread you for activity and discussion despite slight scumtells but I apply a single layer of WIFOM since you're experienced so that makes you scum.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:05 am

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Basically, I TR IV until around page 3 when he made mistake/scumtells so WIFOM kicked in and now he's ultra scum mafia god
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:18 am

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In post 343, shellyc wrote:interesting mafia theory

sometimes the prevailing view is correct

but having a different view indicates an independent thought process which gives us more to work with imo
This is naive

showing a different view does not necessarily mean having one (i.e., views are constantly fabricated) and the appearance of an independent thought process means literally nothing. Scum can also think (sometimes) and you’ll never catch good scum this way


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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:19 am

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In post 333, NDMath wrote:
In post 58, osuka wrote:VOTE: innocentvillager is obvscumming
Can you elaborate as to why you think this?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:28 am

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yeah I don’t think plus is scum

osuka yeah I get it. what do you think about plus and shelly alignment wise
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