Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.11

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

Kerset [4]:

Saudade, osuka, Andresvmb, Ydrasse

Tayl0r Swift [3]:

shellyc, NDMath, teacher

innocentvillager [3]:

PlusJOYED, Kerset, Tayl0r Swift

teacher [1]:

innocentvillager

NDMath [1]:

bob3141

plusJOYED [1]:

Menalque

Not Voting [0]:

mod notes

~ Menalque is V/LA until Monday.
~ Sleep well, Saudade.

flavour

[Menalque]

Like I think ydrasse is +town as things stand, but not for stuff to do with her tone or having a “generally townie mindset” or whatever the reason was

I consider the questioning of me as a town mindset

Okay but that’s not the same reasoning you gave in your readslist, you have a bunch of things about ydrasse generally and then extrapolated that she was town so which was it?

[Menalque]

My own solve is Taylor / Mena / teacher

Is this a teamsolve or just three top individual scumreads?

Wait Shelly are you an alt?

it is 3 top SR-s at the moment
I am not an alt, especially not a Hectic alt.

Ok do u wanna talk about why you think I’m scummy?

Also can u answer this @shelly

[Menalque]

@Mena, re Saudade's Kerset logic back around page 8 (two nights ago). Its 168, about 77 specifically, but really about Kerset's ISO through that point. Saudade was prodding Kerset (and, later, me) to actually get involved in the game rather than lol-4-mason fluff, and calling the failure actually to engage scummy. (Yes this is an aside that is long past its time, but its when I got time to actually go back and get the post numbers to explain it).

Yeah okay, but this actually bothered me a bit because kerset is like well-known to just shitpost and not necessarily do anything and I don’t really believe the thing about how making a second vote a joke vote as well is +scum

Esp given that I think kerset was still just memeing at that point and so the second vote was like, an extension of the initial RVS instead of an attempt to break into the game

[shellyc]

Also can u answer this @shelly

I don't SR you as much right now tbh

that stream of consciousness was quite town

[shellyc]

but yeah something about mena just seems slightly off

I agree with some of your reads but I don't see the townie mindset

[Menalque]

Menal is giving me weird vibes atm, not sure if alignment indicative or just how they are. For those who have played with menal before, what do you think about them?

I feel pretty good about him being town, but always have a lack of confidence in my read of him (though Im more often right, I just respect his scum game).

Why do you think I’m town or like why do you feel pretty good at this point? I’m not surprised you’re TRing me exactly but like I would have expected you to be somewhat less confident (unless the bracketed corollary is that)

[Menalque]

Also can u answer this @shelly

I don't SR you as much right now tbh

that stream of consciousness was quite town

but yeah something about mena just seems slightly off

I agree with some of your reads but I don't see the townie mindset

Okay, but what were you SRing in me before?

And like okay why do you think something’s off/what do you think isn’t townie about my mindset?

[shellyc]

Okay but that’s not the same reasoning you gave in your readslist, you have a bunch of things about ydrasse generally and then extrapolated that she was town so which was it?

I factored in both things: general tone and emotion as well as their questioning and pushes

[shellyc]

Teacher - townlean
IV
Shelly
Bob

Ydrasse - nulltown

Kerset - null
Andres
NDmath


Saudade - scumlean
Osuka


Plusjoy - scum
T-swizzle

Firstly when I read this I didn't like plus and saudade scum (I don't know why you think it's impossible that town!plus posting exists)
also I don't like IV town a lot
Kerset right in the middle is just... strange

I think the way you poke around questioning is indicative of scum trying to corner people. idk how to put it really

[Menalque]

Okay, so like I don’t think it’s impossible that town!plus exists I just think it’s unlikely atp, I’ve actually warmed to saudade since then but I’m lowkey concerned that he’s trying to pocket me

At that point I think kerset had like 4 posts, nd had like 2 and Andres had 1? Close to anyway. So why is it weird that kerset is in null at that point but not weird the others are?

And like, I don’t get why you read my questioning as trying to corner people? What do you think I’d be doing differently as town? I think I’m being fairly open and reasonable and I don’t really think I’ve treated anyone I’ve been questioning in bad faith

[Menalque]

out of {NDMath, Menalque} NDMath’s is RVS right?

I’d say mena and/or teacher are feasibly bussing here

Why would we be bussing here as opposed to defending/coaching?

[Menalque]

Ehhh i still think shelly is town I just kind of think her takes are bad

[shellyc]

this is my second towngame

please forgive me for messing up

[Menalque]

mena didn’t explain the difference btwn kerset and taylor from what i can find?

That is correct, I did not

But basically, I think it was slightly scummy that Taylor made 286 which I still think was a post that is kind of trying to /look/ town more than simply is town, whereas I think kerset was just committed to the bit and I think f anything slightly town for sticking to the mason joke thing even after saudade started pressuring him

Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting

[Menalque]

this is my second towngame

please forgive me for messing up

It’s fine, I don’t mean to be mean and I don’t like think you’re a bad person or anything

I just think your reads are Not Great but that’s p normal as you’re a newbie, I have faith you’ll get to town!me in the end

[Menalque]

I would still like you to answer my questions tho

[shellyc]

Explaining my read on menalque

#921 "I can’t understand as being from a town PoV" #935 "unlikely atp"
which is kinda contradictory

I consider it weird that kerset is in null since they literally did interact somewhat with saudade. And instead of generating content or defending themselves they just continue to shitpost which I consider SR

I think your questioning is cornering since 1) you're asking a LOT of questions which could be an attempt to deflect attention away from yourself and 2) idk your questions are quite direct somehow

I'm not saying you're being unreasonable and/or treating people badly, it's just the way you question people seem to set people up for slips

I could see Town!you feasibly do the same thing which is why im putting you at null zone atm

[shellyc]

Also I feel like taylor being a lurker and acting quite scummy, you would bus them for towncred since them going down (as they are a rather weak member of the scumteam in this gamestate) gives you a fair bit of credibility

[shellyc]

Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting

doesn't more posting help you sort their alignment? Why are you concerned about saudade not shitposting? Seems counter-intuitive

[teacher]

Ironically the fact that he now seems to be trying to take the game more seriously and isn’t just memeing makes me more worried than if he’d just kept shitposting

doesn't more posting help you sort their alignment? Why are you concerned about saudade not shitposting? Seems counter-intuitive

It doesn’t really feel like you’re trying to understand his mindset vs shade the reads honestly.

There’s a difference in players and play styles. The fact that Taylor buckles down as the pressure grows suggests some degre of survivalism. Saud is in my (limited) experience, a lurker player who is tunneling people known to be lurky/late game in. A way that allows fewer associatives while still looking hungry - and even getting against the grain cred.

This ain’t counterintuitive if you think about it ya?

[teacher]

Hunty* not hungry. And some other autocorrect issues.

[teacher]

Menal is giving me weird vibes atm, not sure if alignment indicative or just how they are. For those who have played with menal before, what do you think about them?

I feel pretty good about him being town, but always have a lack of confidence in my read of him (though Im more often right, I just respect his scum game).

Why do you think I’m town or like why do you feel pretty good at this point? I’m not surprised you’re TRing me exactly but like I would have expected you to be somewhat less confident (unless the bracketed corollary is that)

It’s the town for day one, re-evaluate entirely after flips position I generally come to wrt you. The bracketed, and the but, were trying to express it.

[NDMath]

@math why did you claim ascetic btw?

I'm gonna hold off on answering this until mass claim or when people try to eliminate me.


Plusjoy: What specifically do you want me to clarify in my reads?
*proceeds to not clarify said things*

{plus, ydrasse, menal}
{shelly, andres}
{Taylor}
{ndmath, bob, kerset, Saudade, osuka}
{teacher}

This readlist looks like what I expected it to, which I think is slightly town indicative.

I don't relate to your reads at all, not to this, not to the IV is scumlean, nor to the menal & teacher bussing taylor together d1
none of this makes sense to me in the slightest

Do you think that says anything alignment indicative or purely nai?

[PlusJOYED]

V/LA until Monday pls, turns out the town I’m going to for climbing may not have mobile coverage? So I may not be able to post at all

Got it! -D

that sounds like fun