Open 795 | Noir | Game Over

[Isis]

I'd prefer if people hypoclaimed their hider targets, that's how it's always been done every open setup I've ever played with hiders. I don't see the benefit in depriving hiders of agency

[Isis]

VOTE: bob3141 because I probably wouldn't as scum.

[Isis]

Oh it's an open setup, so norwee is scum


Not gonna vote him though

[Isis]

Becuase you probably would as scum?

I wouldn't as scum either!

[Isis]

acting means pretending, so for me to be fake acting id have to be pretending to pretend?

I like the cut of your jib

[Isis]

this might be lukewarm but I feel like Battle Mage probably plays this opening this way with either color rolecard

[Isis]

does anyone have opinions on hypoclaiming versus circle protecting with hider

i think hypoclaiming is slightly better but if people want to be lazy then eh

[Isis]

I think the question is a lot more fascinating if the setup doesn't have a hider but converting the hider from a sane investigation to a mostly sane investigation is a big, big deal so it's just tracker

[Isis]

how do you give a list of three people after you're dead? you've lost me

[Isis]

so are you saying the hider just claims hider day one and gives a list of 3 targets every day?

that's not as good as making everyone hypoclaim

I would please like for everyone to hypoclaim

[Isis]

My previous account was called pops yes

[Isis]

obviously my account is named after the egyptian goddess (actually a video game character loosely based on the Egyptian goddess, but same difference)

"ISIS" is an acronym so that should always have all of its characters capitalized, so it's not ambiguous.

[Isis]

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

[Isis]

VOTE: Lost

[Isis]

Hi!

[Isis]

Lost do you actually think you are a dumb person?

[Isis]

Lost do you know how sad you are making me feel right now?

[Isis]

Hypoclaiming allows the real hider to target someone they scumread, or someone who, if that person is scum, it's not good for the hider to be alive anyway, or whatever. Targeting the name above in the playerlist forces the hider to pick that arbitrary target

I don't think Battle Mage or Bambi has been alignment indicative in how they've addressed the question but I think Tayl0r might be slightly scummier for seeming to not put lots of thought in (I only don't feel the same way about Bambi because of knowing her meta, really)

[Isis]

sure VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

Weak Hiders usually should be trying to kill themselves.

[Isis]

I think, like, you target someone you're worried might be a deepwolf but generally seems town

so in a sense you are trying to die

That's how I would generally play it I think

I think trying to get earlier scumflips and crack open the game is defensible too

I think it depends on the gamestate

[Isis]

i'm less particular about understanding perfect hider player versus hypoclaiming so that the hider is able to do whatever they want

[Isis]

i am rude in any ways but i will only refer to bambi in bambilish ways this game, i will not be rude in the way she seems rather perturbed by at the moment





...but yes i think jay puts not a lot of thought into anything in mafia games

[Isis]

how much thought did you put into your whole, the hider claims 3 possible targets, that night the hider dies, the next day one of the hiders says "ok, i know it looks bad the hider died, but here's the thing, I picked Vig".


How much thought did you put there bambi?

[Isis]

[Isis]

Didn't you prefer for vigilante to be picked though?

[Isis]

I'm not headstrong enough like Mage to think my opinion is best, I'm offering it as an alternative without telling people it's against their wincon to make the decision without feeling like nobody supports them.

I want Vigi selected, but that's up to the player who got that role now isn't it?

<3

[Isis]

UNVOTE: Swift

[Isis]

it is really easy to get townreads from me when i'm not sober you should be telling me sweet things rn murderkitty

[Isis]

I scumread u bambi

[Isis]

that doesnt make sense aren't my drunk scumreads also free?

[Isis]

VOTE: Bambi

[Isis]

my vote was totally based on post 162 and i can't remember much of what else youv'e posted this game

[Isis]

earning a scumread seems like fundamentally illogical? so it just seems like a scumpost

what do you thnk aobut it?

[Isis]

mashing illogic in an instantaneous moment isn't incongruous with not being someone who thinks through things

it's a read that is consistent with an instinctual individual

[Isis]

I'm confused. First I get a nice heart from her and then I get yelled at. I barely changed.

<3

[Isis]

Bumbi, Waswas and Battle Mage are town

I’ve been town in every game with you so far and you’ve never identified me as such. In fact you’ve often TR scum more than anything.
Why should your townreads be trusted?

oh wow you actually did roll scum
i'm sorry norwee

[Isis]

mudrecat gets a townlock

[Isis]

townread on not_mafia, scumlock on norwee

[Isis]

WORDING IS CRITICAL

ISIS LOVES DICTION MAFIA

[Isis]

Suggested hider plan:

Hider tonight will target player immediately above them in the player list. So if they die we can nail 1 scum.

GeniusGamer
Tayl0r Swift
bob3141
Not_Mafia
ManWithNoName
Dongempire
Bambi Jay
NorwegianboyEE
MURDERCAT
Battle Mage
PenguinPower
Isis
Lost

For example, if I am Hider, I will be visiting MURDERCAT tonight.

Do we have consensus agreement to this? If so, useful for everyone to keep track of it (and assume hider will never deviate), otherwise it serves no purpose. If not, useful to have some agreed plan for what we are doing, and probably also useful to get everyone's view on it. So far from recollection it's been Bambi and Taylor Swift pushing the anti-town play - good to know if anyone else is voting for that?

hider targets the player immediately above them unless they opt into hypoclaiming. I'm hiding behind PP unless I change that later

[Isis]

Oh wow you hammered dong already??

[Isis]

This probably flips town :/

[Isis]

We didn't even get a claim at e1

[Isis]

But not mafia is actually playing the game this time for some reason

[Isis]

Lost I love fluff posting we are sworn enemies now

[Isis]

But not mafia is actually playing the game this time for some reason

Hey I was playing in that game where Una claimed Compulsive Fibonacci Night Commuter or whatever the fuck it was

I try not to think about that game

[Isis]

it's still a throw

[Isis]

Yikes, lots to catch up on.

So... I still think N_M should be eliminated. If this is the best he can do, we should just vote him out. He didn’t even give Dong a chance to claim or defend themself before hammering.

If Not_Mafia can’t contribute enough, I’m going to vote for him every day until he either convinces me that he isn’t the scummiest person in the game or is voted out.

Just because Not_Mafia apparently plays like this every game doesn’t mean it’s any less scummy. If anybody else acted like this, I bet they’d be eliminated way faster than this

It does mean that though. Otherwise, he would be scum in every game. He's not scum in every game.

[Isis]

antitown and scummy aren't the same thing

[Isis]

I think it is better to vote for people who might killing 1 player every night rather than vote for people who are posting distracting memes. The former is more aggregate harm to our good society

[Isis]

Genius gamer isn't phonetically alliterative, only in how it's written. I prefer auditory alliteration

[Isis]

VOTE: MURDERCAT

[Isis]

Oh it counts, MURDERCAT. It counts in the most special way

[Isis]

Hard

[Isis]

Should hider do two up tonight?

Somehow I misread this as "three up" and I was like why 3.
Yeah I think by default that's how it goes but I'd still like people to hypo claim when they can

[Isis]

VOTE: Norwee
That's a very bizarre initial take for today on top of my existing gutread

[Isis]

Tayl0r I feel where you're coming from, it'd be scummy if literally anyone else did it.

[Isis]

Did you have to change the 0 because "Taylor Swift" was taken, that's a little sad if it's an Aristophanes alt that doesn't really get used

[Isis]

Don't like that iso but that can be a harsh judgment given the circumstances

[Isis]

MURDERCAT, what do you think about mwnn's play this phase?

[Isis]

I misread it as "ManWithNoName is v/la hunting in-laws", i liked that better

[Isis]

PP got rekt

[Isis]

PP do you like Lost?

[Isis]

I stopped watching after season 1, but definitely did not like the ending from what I’ve been told about it.

I have to accept this answer

[Isis]

MURDERCAT, what do you think about mwnn's play this phase?

Like the 2 posts before this? I have none?

I thought the iso was scummy while I was waiting for the day to start but I don't know now.

i have to accept this answer

[Isis]

I don't know what to comment on, but looking forward to hearing from bob

next poster also ask about bob, let's make it a meme

[Isis]

I scumread Norwee

[Isis]

bob, do you have any thoughts on the game?

[Isis]

bob has the skill, experience, and meta to read anybody in this playerlist.

[Isis]

I lean scum. Hope it's not unfairly playstyle clash, not a strong read

[Isis]

norwee are you already in antispew that seems ahead of schedule

[Isis]

he was most threatening to Bambi Jay..

[Isis]

antispew is when you know you are caught scum that will not survive the phase and you do exactly whatever will make people think the opposite of what's correct about who your partners are

[Isis]

I've still never seen you play town right?

[Isis]

Why didn't you get worst to rand me scum with you so we could even out our record?

[Isis]

no can you break it down for me

[Isis]

bob will see what you're doing even if you don't explain it to me

[Isis]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Isis]

VOTE: PenguinPower

[Isis]

Some of PP's questions have felt leaf-rakey for me

maybe I should be on lost

too much beer

[Isis]

why are you the way that you are

[Isis]

N_M is probably town. I don't think he'd feel as amused by GeniusGamer as scum. He wouldn't feel threatened I don't think but like.. I think it'd be some kind of different tack

[Isis]

That's not how communication works, multiple people asking would indicate that it was, in fact, not obvious

[Isis]

I signed up because MURDERCAT!

[Isis]

sure, I'll keep looking for evidence of actual amusement

[Isis]

both alignments of NM take every available hammer on players of any alignment

[Isis]

Cheating at codenames is a terrible thing to do

[Isis]

NM could be eliminated every single time he lolhammered and he would still take every lolhammer available in all his games

[Isis]

GeniusGamer doesn't seem like town. I kind of want solidarity with the amusement business though.

[Isis]

I scumread PP for reasons similar to MURDERCAT
I still scumread bob

[Isis]

Hm

[Isis]

Cow's last post might align with scumhim. Not sure tho

[Isis]

Since he rolled scum.

He's cheeky as both town and scum but if you pay attention to what he's being cheeky about and why you can figure out his alignment from it oftentimes

[Isis]

VOTE: lost

[Isis]

Taylor good, no man bad

[Isis]

*bobman

[Isis]

You only know that because she's scum masons with you though

[Isis]

we'll never know if you don't try it

[Isis]

His first two posts felt a little bit like some narration-tell and his play today has been NAI to me. It's only a lean but it's fun to say "bobman bad". But then it's less fun when my phone autocorrect botches it

Are we town together? I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

[Isis]

I want this to be the universe where we are town together, I don't like the other two.

The other two being? Are you concerned about the universe where you are scum?

I miscounted universes. As long as I'm not vaporeon you will be o.k.

[Isis]

GeniusGamer might be the most I've wanted to remove a slot independent of its scumminess. But I don't actually know how scummy he is. Is there any post that sticks out to you, MURDER?
I think I remember one I didn't like but I forgot which one

[Isis]

MURDERCAT if you were scum it would break my heart

[Isis]

you wouldn't do that right?!?!?!

[Isis]

I'm angry about thinking about Norwee is town and I am not with him (even though I think I am currently voting with him [and i'm not unvoting in this post])

[Isis]

i can't be expected to remember where my vote is

i'm voting Lost, aren't I?

whoops

[Isis]

VOTE: PP

[Isis]

i am always scum with norwee in my heart

[Isis]

pls no seethrough

[Isis]

Isis is definitely acting more like scum than town, but not by much

You think Isis is scum?

See, that’s not what I said. You people would make great sleazy politicians that are secretly working with the mafia to mislim people.

I did not say she is scum. I did not say I think she’s scum. I think she’s more likely to be scum than town.

VOTE: Isis
You’ve been playing awful and i don’t like it.

Really? I don’t think Isis was really playing that terribly. She talked a lot about what the hider should do and have a few reads as well. I, for one,

welcome our new insect overlords

think that Isis is probably town.

pretty sure this is simply a scum!gamer forgetting his own read manufactures and scumslipping. He was discussing day1 posts here, the same ones that were all he had to work with when he stated this read before.
can't really indulge NM's desire to be amused with something this clear and obvious. VOTE: GG

[Isis]

Getting the opposite read on a reread is a very unlikely event as town ( more likely to invert when emulating the process as town ). and when it organically occurs as town, it would normally prompt a post of "oh, hey, I was rereading and I've changed my mind about this slot, I want to talk about it", rather than silently flipping the stance on the slot when it is incorporated into an analysis mostly focused on another player.

There is a nonzero chance of changing your mind genuinely, but when there is something with a weak explanation for town and a strong explanation for scum you definitely have to vote it in mafia, it's a game of odds.

[Isis]

Why so mudrecat?

[Isis]

I'm making a conscious effort to dislike you as little as possible for approaching play differently from others, GG, but I do think you are scum

[Isis]

I'm disappointed N_M didn't give me any knock knock jokes when I rolled scum with him

[Isis]

who's there?

[Isis]

"addled" is a cool word, I like GeniusGamer

[Isis]

I don't like stromboli but looking up those other two words I like them.

[Isis]

I agree with your opinion. Not the second paragraph that only I can supposedly see though. I really don’t think that’s what’s going on, because my clashing with the other players is one of the subjects being discussed.

What second paragraph?

[Isis]

I don't think you're making friends here less because you can't ever make friends and more cuz (let's use religion I guess because screw it) you're a Christian amongst athiest, or vice versa. You just... Don't click with most of the player base in my humble stupid opinion.

I agree with your opinion. Not the second paragraph that only I can supposedly see though. I really don’t think that’s what’s going on, because my clashing with the other players is one of the subjects being discussed.

Second paragraph?

I agree with your opinion. Not the second paragraph that only I can supposedly see though. I really don’t think that’s what’s going on, because my clashing with the other players is one of the subjects being discussed.

What second paragraph?

THERE’S A SECOND PARAGRAPH IN POST 1079 GUYS, YEH’VE GOTTA BELIEVE ME, YEH’VE GOTTA! I—IT’S THERE, I TELL YA! IT’S REAL!

This seems mendacious

[Isis]

Isis is definitely acting more like scum than town, but not by much

You think Isis is scum?

See, that’s not what I said. You people would make great sleazy politicians that are secretly working with the mafia to mislim people.

I did not say she is scum. I did not say I think she’s scum. I think she’s more likely to be scum than town.

VOTE: Isis
You’ve been playing awful and i don’t like it.

Really? I don’t think Isis was really playing that terribly. She talked a lot about what the hider should do and have a few reads as well. I, for one,

welcome our new insect overlords

think that Isis is probably town.

pretty sure this is simply a scum!gamer forgetting his own read manufactures and scumslipping. He was discussing day1 posts here, the same ones that were all he had to work with when he stated this read before.
can't really indulge NM's desire to be amused with something this clear and obvious. VOTE: GG

What about this bob

I see a rather questionable post by Isis. I see two stances by gamer 3 days apart. 15 september isis was in the top half of his reads. 18 september isis was in the bottom half of his reads. If there is progression I can see that as quite reasonable.

Reading through gamers Iso now.

If there is progression by gamer then I would think it's quite selective quoting by isis. If gamer was talking in 18 september about his read on 15 september then thats a different story.

He was discussing pre-september 15th posts, which makes it more unnatural for the post to not point out that he had changed his mind and used to have a different opinion about my pre september 15th posts.
It's not impossible he forgot to, but it's more likely he's just scum who has to track stances manually

[Isis]

I've had way to many "too easy" teams flip red the past year.

But more often than not the exact team will take some sifting

[Isis]

it sounds like bob is noticing other places genius has floaty progressions

however we get there's all the same I guess

[Isis]

I'd like to hear from lost and anyone else who hasn't posted about GG

probably scum

also gotta leave this here while i catch up.

How... unsubstantial. I feel insulted by the fact that your read on me is not a 10-page psychological analysis.

it's more substantial than your bambi case that's for sure

let me read posts i'm 10 pages behind

Pro Tip: I don’t really find it helpful to post

before

you’ve caught up. Also, I don’t think you’re in a position to call my posting unsubstantial when you have under 100 — actually, I’ll be generous — 75 posts at this point in the game.

lawl
Lost can you can call any iso insubstantial that you want to

[Isis]

lawl
Lost, you may call any iso insubstantial if you want to do so.

can you untypo this for me i can't decipher

modified

[Isis]

I think Swift is towny
1178 could be that super fancy cognitive load tell I've heard about since it's illogical shade when Taylor's earlier post was a joke. I have yet to try messing with that dark magic (the way it's been explained to me is scum are more likely to misinterpret a joke because they've got more stuff on their mind due to being scum)

[Isis]

I like 1161 but that might be me being pocketed by concurrence with a similar thought about GG. Independent thought and approach makes a slot less likely to be bussing, for instance nothing about norwee makes him less likely to be bussing.

1163 is based on a misunderstanding of the post but in the universe it's mistakenly in it's scumhunting.

[Isis]

I wonder how much of it is I want to townread her because Norwee scumreads her.

[Isis]

Norwee you are my bane

[Isis]

I want to read your thoughts lost

[Isis]

I'm wavering on my Taylor townread a bit. Since I know norwee posted his townread earnestly and definitely wasn't trolling me I will let him answer

[Isis]

I don't have more for the Tayl0r townread beyond what I put in 1185. All her posting afterwards made me regret saying I townread her, though

[Isis]

Norwee and I go back

[Isis]

I think maybe I actually just like a lot of swift's nai posts.


Lost looks really good this game. My amusement with that tell earlier wasn't and overall read mudrecat

[Isis]

we are all bob on this blessed day

[Isis]

newbie games exhibit a higher level of play than several minis, they're fine

[Isis]

Is lost actually the slot that called himself dumb at the start of the game

[Isis]

I'm negative one person and MURDERCAT is two

[Isis]

My phone autocorrect now knows that MURDERCAT is capitals

[Isis]

Hammer anyway before the real tracker can out, this is such an obvious scum slot

[Isis]

This game is annoying I'm going to go watch adventure time

[Isis]

bambi are you for real or meming

[Isis]

i dont knoow if that should be answered but i'm annoyed

[Isis]

you were just supposed to silently obey murdercat's post of two slots up

[Isis]

i don't actually know if bambi's claim is real, she has a meta of faking a lot as town

[Isis]

I think Hider beats JK but I can't remember how that stuff works

[Isis]

VOTE: MWNN

[Isis]

actually is there any reason bob doesn't just flip scum here?

part of me wants to twtbw the way he initially didn't want to join in on my push of GeniusGamer but I think it could just be this cognitive thing where it is harder to speculate alongside me knowing the answers. Whereas if he had a green rolecard it would be easier. So like, I think he was being earnest, but the earnestness is the problem.
To be clear that's the 20%, the 80% is the bizarre way GG described bob's slot, it looks awful, if he tied a townie to himself good job Genius you got some of the scum skills down pat

[Isis]

Norwee I feel rly betrayed right now

[Isis]

why would you hurt me

[Isis]

VOTE: Norwee

[Isis]

pure angervote

[Isis]

Norwee did you actually rand green in an open with me
that's wrong

[Isis]

I am positive that Murder told us Bob didn't perform the N1 kill

What? How did you come up with this?

[Isis]

UNVOTE:
Norwee is bumbi scum

[Isis]

Can we lim bob

[Isis]

real hider goes up 3 tonight!!!!

[Isis]

VOTE: bob

[Isis]

That's not a crumb. That's not what crumbing. If murder crumbed his night 1 result i'd've been first to catch it

[Isis]

I doubt he crumbed anything when he played marathons he was not very mechanically inclined

[Isis]

it's my perception of his personality

anyway, his posts don't have crumbs in them

[Isis]

Let's PoE stuff until Lost gets a well deserved win for making me townread him

[Isis]

Huh
I don't think that's standard
But I don't like, know know it for sure
There's only an X out of Y chance of jail keeper aiming right I'm gonna treat clears as clears anyway

[Isis]

This whole discussion is weird.

Yeah PP I don't think this discussion is going anywhere.

[Isis]

It's easier to remember if you call her bumbi

[Isis]

Bobman bad

[Isis]

Its kind of hard to articulate but maybe a handwavey simplified way of saying it is that it's easier to TMI scumread your partner's than it is to understand and/or support a genuine uninformed argument that indicates your partner is scum

[Isis]

bob can get lost!

[Isis]

that post and your avatar change are unfair new entries in the NAI things I want to townread you for Taylor

[Isis]

is it actually possible for norwee to roll town this is so surreal

[Isis]

Lost why are you so towny

[Isis]

VOTE: bob3141

[Isis]

If i was gamer buddy to be frank i would of thrown him under the bus straight away. And i doubt you would of have had easy time getting him lynched with me as his partner. as i would of been doing the leg work in the private to help him.

dat consecutive sentence dissonance

[Isis]

I think I'm gonna town in mwnn for now

[Isis]

Hmm should I be townreading Taylor

[Isis]

UNVOTE:

[Isis]

Taking things kind of literally clint

[Isis]

Don't think so, I watched more of it than I should have

[Isis]

Not_Mafia, it looks like you're scummy, but not as scummy as PinguFlamethrower?

[Isis]

VOTE: T Swizzle

[Isis]

Whose turn is next to say "I would've bussed GG?"

[Isis]

Norwee I played a tohou game yesterday

[Isis]

Not a canon one just based on tohou characters it's called luna nights it's a metroidvania.

You get bonuses for almost getting hit which I think comes from the space shooters though

[Isis]

Teach me senpai

[Isis]

The wagon logic is the only decent stuff bob threw at the wall to try to get to stick, I guess I could still vote there. I feel a little lost, I want MURDERCAT back

[Isis]

Ahahahahahaha

[Isis]

Let's see, worst possible gamestate is:
1 Mafia Goon
1 Tracker who tracked Not_Mafia
1 Hider who hid with {someone hammered/NKed}, {someone hammered/NKed}, {Tracker}
4 Unconfirmed VTs

best possible scenario is some kind of auto.

I can't help but notice that we should set up hider hypoclaims for every slot, vote for a no eliminate, and just get more information over night. If we execute today, the worst case scenario is losing the Hider and a town player the Hider hid with over night and being at 7-3=4, eLo, with the tracker not being conftown unless we had the tracker claim this phase (which is definitely not costless).
On the other hand, if we no execute today, the worst case scenario is 7-2=5, the tracker will usually have an additional clear, and the game is like, almost auto? If the tracker has 1 clear it's at almost-auto and the tracker can claim in the 5p to avoid waiting until 3p when it's counterclaimable. If the tracker has 2 clears it's just auto.

Can anyone figure out where this would be wrong?
I say hypoclaim but when the game is this close to solved I'm not sure I'd want to put tons of effort until building a lovely web of claims that works best for people hypothetical suspicions on different days or whatever. It can just be up-4.

Caveat, if the Hider has done something different from what we expected them to do, they should just claim immediately, messing that information up is too important and seems like the only way to make a won game a lost game, if you didn't obey the battlemage up1->up2->up3 scheme so far please claim.

pedit: oh ok lol

[Isis]

tracker does not need to lolclaim just because the hider claimed, because it doesn't overload the mafia's shots - they can't actually shoot at norwee, and norwee is going to be using his ability defensively now, I think

[Isis]

i would more than townlean lost cause if he was part of the scumteam i'm not exactly sure what he has been doing with this game

[Isis]

Norwee, Man With No Name, Isis, Lost

oh sry mb it's auto scum can concede

[Isis]

my clear doesn't overlap with Norwee's and it reaches 4/7 confirmeds for auto.

Murdercat checked MWNN N1, isn't that cool

[Isis]

if the scum forces you to play it out technically Norwee needs to submit "I take no action" to avoid losing a dayphase, which is kind of funny

[Isis]

I tracked Lost since I townreaded him, which means in the universes where Lost is scum he leaves me alive so that my result actually means something

[Isis]

I'll VOTE: PenguinPower for the possibility of hammer resolution instead of concession resolution I guess, but I'm not convinced it's not bob. Partly because I got a softclear on PP but no softclears on bob. But sending taylor to kill makes plenty of sense

[Isis]

I'd be willing to bet the game on Bambi Jay!town without mechanical information that she is, but we don't need to do so, we have the luxury of
lim PP -> Isis is shot-> lim bob -> Lost is shot -> Norwee, Bambi, and MWNN left alive in f3, wow it really was Bambi, lim Bambi.

You have to submit "I do not act" each night to be safe.

[Isis]

I feel pretty bad if this is the second time I'm claiming a movement based role to prompt a concession from PP in a game where he played pretty well this year. So I really want it to be bob.

[Isis]

VOTE: bob3141

[Isis]

should i start tracking my completed games on a wiki or are wikis dumb

[Isis]

I feel bad about misreading you norwee

I wasn't like as sure about it as I presented though it just felt like a good starting point

[Isis]

was interesting how you townread me off of being frustrated that you were crumbing your role and that I was wrong

[Isis]

time to finish beating this tohou game
i'm not very good at grazing but i'm really good at the move where I throw a chainsaw

[Isis]

Are you claiming town