Open 795 | Noir | Game Over

[Bambi Jay]

If I'm the tracker/Vigi I'll take my time to shoot Battle Mage tonight.

Frankly Tracker will only be good if you trust your ability to only catch one scum out it and then die. At least with Vigi your garunteed 2 shots going through before you die.

Vigilante is the superior option because at least then the mafia Jailkeeper would have way more urgency jailing them instead of of randomly finding the other TI.

[Bambi Jay]

4 reasons vig is superior

1) it can catch more than one scum before dying
2) its more fun
3) you dont have to rely on scum being next to each other and next to the tracker in the player list, you can simply target scummy people
4) see 1-3

A lady of good sense I see.

But yeah a good Vigilante does a crap ton more than a good Tracker. BM probably trying to discourage it so Mafia can control all the kills.

[Bambi Jay]

Sounds more like your jealous you signed up for a Vigilante theme game and didn't get the ability to kill that time.

I ain't arguing a Vigilante isn't swingy, I'm arguing it's a high risk high reward game. Calling it "going against wincon" feels more like your instantly taking an option off of the table town can use. Also in the same post you say you'd lynch the player for not conforming to your style. So it feels more like your a hardballing scum trying to play town leader early. Hence my suggestion for the Vig to shoot you.

[Bambi Jay]

vig gives town more power and more control over the game. especially if we know theres a vig we can all help to direct the shot.

A 2nd nightly kill influenced by scum and an impotent hider, rather than a tracker where 2 scum will be moving at night and a hider which can act as a cop. I'm sure though we'll have a great chance of the Vig killing scum if the scum know who is being targetted and can simply direct the JK to protect their team-mate if needed.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Taylor Swift

If we end up with a vig tonight, please do actually kill me.

But the fact that scum would have to protect themselves instead of going on the offense is also a valid use of the Vig shot. And if scum has to use their ONLY Power role to counter the Vig, then you got 2 other people finding info still undeterred by the Jailkeeper.

Also hey NotMaf, how ya been.

[Bambi Jay]

Vig is better in this game so that I can be policy vigged

That too.

Frankly a Vigilante getting rid of lynchbait also limits people they can use as scapegoats.

A tracker in this situation is someone who can out the other TIs thinking it's the Jailkeeper, and it also means guessing which scum does the kill. A Vigilante doesn't have that restriction.

[Bambi Jay]

Don't use Elsa's nickname on me. I'm Bambi.

[Bambi Jay]

If you wanna write it like a novel the least you could do is put your words in italics Murdercat.

looks more authentic and shit.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm giving him a suggestion as a gal who did that gimmick before. I even gave it the title of a diary and a border and shit.

[Bambi Jay]

Local Mage bullies Actress knock off Tayl0r Swift for having opinion

Locals who've dealt with the Mafia in their town their entire lives get told off by recent Mage who moved in and thinks he knows best from his old town, where it is revealed he partook in criminal activity. A brave german girl voices her opinion, which the Mage says is "gamethrowing", and it seems like a spectacle to watch, but fake Actress Tayl0r joins in the discussion and takes the heat away from the german girl because a cat said so.

- Noir News, acticle 313.

[Bambi Jay]

For a retraction you'll have to speak to the CEO of Noir News, a duck turned Anime girl.

[Bambi Jay]

Nah, I meant it as you being like a body double of Taylor, Tayl0r. You guys look remarkably alike.

[Bambi Jay]

Your eyes tell a different story, Tayl0r. I see your true past.

[Bambi Jay]

The real question then, Isis, is do you agree with him or nah?

[Bambi Jay]

Ehh. Most hiders I've seen just out who they hid on afterwards and it worked out better. You just give a list of 3 and most people can figure it out.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah I know what I said. If you can't solve it between a list of 3 people later in the game though then that feels more your fault.

I'm saying this mainly so the Vigilante (if it's chosen) doesn't shoot at the hider or shit.

[Bambi Jay]

BEFORE you die, Isis. Before. Like before the night phase we have a list of 3 and scum can't just shoot the one person while your other TI also finds stuff not among those 3. And if we do go with Tracker that still leaves us with more variety on who to find.

VOTE: Mage

[Bambi Jay]

It's a name of an Egyptian goddess long before the organization took it. I think it's Egypt atleast and not another religion.

[Bambi Jay]

Does Bambi not put a lot of thought into anything?

Well that sounds slightly rude.

[Bambi Jay]

You already called me Bumbi yet you resort to Elsa's name again. Fuck off boi.

[Bambi Jay]

Ouch. I put different thoughts in from others, not less.

[Bambi Jay]

how much thought did you put into your whole, the hider claims 3 possible targets, that night the hider dies, the next day one of the hiders says "ok, i know it looks bad the hider died, but here's the thing, I picked Vig".


How much thought did you put there bambi?

Well if that's the case they drew the short end of the straw. There's more possibilities it doesn't work like that. And as I said, I said this scenario also applied if Tracker was picked.

Bumbi operates on instinct

Yeah that too. Sometimes less thought is more. A crap ton of people second guess things enough you can manipulate that. If I'm certain of an action, it's probably going through.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm not headstrong enough like Mage to think my opinion is best, I'm offering it as an alternative without telling people it's against their wincon to make the decision without feeling like nobody supports them.

I want Vigi selected, but that's up to the player who got that role now isn't it?

[Bambi Jay]

Who would want easy town reads for free? Sounds boring.

[Bambi Jay]

Then at least I earned that scumread.

[Bambi Jay]

that doesnt make sense aren't my drunk scumreads also free?

Oh. I thought you were scumreading my intentions before, and wanted your thoughts on why.

Guess I'll wait until your sober then.

[Bambi Jay]

Is... Drunk Isis a different person? Hmm.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm confused. First I get a nice heart from her and then I get yelled at. I barely changed.

[Bambi Jay]

My bias against Mage gives me pause there, so explain more.

[Bambi Jay]

mudrecat gets a townlock

I did the same thing just worded differently. Sigh.

[Bambi Jay]

Hey Genius, he's known as a Meme Player. I'm kinda in that boat too but on a lesser degree. You should probably wait for your read on him.

[Bambi Jay]

mudrecat gets a townlock

I did the same thing just worded differently. Sigh.

i dont like that you're hunting for townpoints like this

?

I got into this mess BECAUSE I said I didn't want that.

Who would want easy town reads for free? Sounds boring.

[Bambi Jay]

Fake Taylor you can't even understand the true meaning of my posts. NotMaf gets it. Isis will probably get it when she isn't drunk.

Let me have some sarcasm plz.

[Bambi Jay]

Probably his own personal PT he asked for and does it to be scummy.

[Bambi Jay]

It leads to the SpeakEasy, i don't think ur allowed to link that from the regular forum.

Oh right I don't have access to that, Elsa does. Fml I thought I was trolled too.

[Bambi Jay]

Feels weird he signed up for an Open game. Most Newbies go to the Normal Queue afterwards. It's the most "sane" queue without as many memers.

[Bambi Jay]

He agreed with Tayl0r and thinks you linked the scum PT is my guess.

[Bambi Jay]

The mod posts and the game dies. Typical.

[Bambi Jay]

Bumbi, Waswas and Battle Mage are town

Who is waswas?

Past tense of isis..

[Bambi Jay]

I thought we already agreed drunk Isis is a different person. Don't take too much stock in her vote there.

[Bambi Jay]

it is really easy to get townreads from me when i'm not sober you should be telling me sweet things rn murderkitty

Who would want easy town reads for free? Sounds boring.

I scumread u bambi

Then at least I earned that scumread.

that doesnt make sense aren't my drunk scumreads also free?

VOTE: Bambi

See for yourself.

[Bambi Jay]

So she's yelling at me while being ... Fake drunk?

[Bambi Jay]

Guess I'll fuck off until tomorrow I guess. See ya.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah I just wanted to pout but then I'll be bored. So if I see something interesting before I sleep I'll comment.

And any particular question, Pengu?

[Bambi Jay]

And any particular question

Jam or chutney?

The fuck is chutney?

[Bambi Jay]

Well they agreed with me first about the Vigilante and if the only person who agreed with me is scum I'll never live it down.

Besides, no need to rush when we got atleast 10 more days of discussion and people who haven't talked.

[Bambi Jay]

Oh, one week deadline. Fun.

And Mage seems like a player that can handle a wagon on him, he even already said it himself. He can get out of it with his words. Tayl0r not so much probs. If she gets to l-1 I don't see her getting out of day 1 alive, leaving the day without a decent pressure on other slots.

[Bambi Jay]

And any particular question

Jam or chutney?

The fuck is chutney?

DaFuq, do you not have chutney in freedomland?

Okay then, is there such a thing as an objective conciousness or is a universal subjective conciousness the best we can hope to achieve?

Funnily enough I like this question more.

Obviously Subjective based on the fact that we developed to have Subjective thoughts anyway. If we were still like lions, squirrels, or whales itd be objective. Survive, reproduce, die, repeat.

[Bambi Jay]

Ah dangit Dong, don't you know L-2 is always L-1 with NotMaf to quickhammer? Sigh.

[Bambi Jay]

Why tho. I wanted to play with you.

[Bambi Jay]

Okay, if the fact we literally have someone like NotMaf in the game doesn't convince you to take the Vigilante instead of Tracker, whoever got it, then I don't know what will.

[Bambi Jay]

Then why sign up for it.

[Bambi Jay]

I disagree.

All you've done is complain about my posting style, you haven't even attempted to offer any other read

Genuinely agree TBH. When Newbies get a one track mind it'll let them just focus one player. Scummy will probably use it to get you.

Still better for a Vigilante to do this, but what do I know?

[Bambi Jay]

That'd be boring. They live consequence free. Minus town hating them if wrong I guess.

[Bambi Jay]

Why are y'all voting if that was the hammer.

To protest.

[Bambi Jay]

Protest the fact we let this happen.

[Bambi Jay]

Why not GrumpyGamer?

I think he'd be sued by Game grumps in that case

[Bambi Jay]

he was most threatening to Bambi Jay..

Whut.

antispew is when you know you are caught scum that will not survive the phase and you do exactly whatever will make people think the opposite of what's correct about who your partners are

But... It felt way more like people believed me as town for that action besides drunk Isis? I made a case for my idea and got turned down.

Honestly we also knew Mage already said he was a policy killer so it's not like he would've cared if I was town or scum. So I would've left him alive since he probably would easily follow people on NM.

[Bambi Jay]

Your the Avatar, Bob. It's up to you.

[Bambi Jay]

@Bambi Jay can you play the game and place your vote :/

I could. Or I could not. The choice is mine.

But honestly if my vote was on someone it'd probably be Pengu right now. His town list of Bob NoName and Notmaf feels less like that's who he truly town reads and more people he can pocket for later.

[Bambi Jay]

Because Norway said I should and I'm rebelling against the country now for telling me what to do. Blame it for me not voting.

[Bambi Jay]

Are you going to deliberately underperform to prove a point of independence?

Yes. Whatcha gonna do about it?

[Bambi Jay]

Are you going to deliberately underperform to prove a point of independence?

Yes. Whatcha gonna do about it?

I’ll be back for you, Not_Mafia. But I’m afraid I’ve just found a scummier person.

VOTE: Bambi Jay

You just admitted that you’re

intentionally

underperforming without a good reason, and it doesn’t sound like you’re joking.. That’s the kind of thing scum does, though why you would admit it is a mystery to me... actually, maybe you’re partners with N_M, and you guys think you’ll cruise through the game with a lack of contribution due to bias towards you from other players!

Actually, that last part is really unlikely. I doubt that you’re partners.

You start contributing

or else

.

Or else? Jeez. For a newbie you really are trying to sound intimidating.

Have you ever read a trope at all? Teenager rebelling against society to be noticed? I even specified I was rebelling against the COUNTRY of Norway. God, learn to see a joke in text or not at all. This isn't even mentioning the fact in the previous post I made I said my piece and contributed.

This is why you go to the Normal Queue so you meet people and make friends first. Not jump into a game where like 5 people play completely the opposite of the way you want.

[Bambi Jay]

sigh.

fine then. Guess the vote is all that really matters.

VOTE: Pengu

[Bambi Jay]

Using my weakness of anime girls is cruel tho. So rude.

[Bambi Jay]

sigh.

fine then. Guess the vote is all that really matters.

VOTE: Pengu

Penguin is NM-1

This is the main reason I didn't want to vote. Bleh.

[Bambi Jay]

Oh NotMaf isn't voting him?

UNVOTE:

He's basically Still at L1.

[Bambi Jay]

If he's at L-2 without NotMaf on him he's already at L-1. We know this.

[Bambi Jay]

OHHHH wait Murdercat said he's NotMaf-1 so with my vote he's L-2. That's what got me.

VOTE: Pengu

Retract that retracted vote then.

[Bambi Jay]

I thought it was a pun on people phasing out the L word so instead of L it went MN like the alphabet.

[Bambi Jay]

You sound like the manager I hate. I recommended Normal because that's normally where new people go after newbie games. The other queues are sometimes considered extra queues but not the main one.

If you aren't here to make friends I guess I'll just sitck with playing with the other people in the game. My only hope is if your a town PR you use it right. But otherwise I guess I'll ignore you too.

Edit: frankly if he doesn't like me, NotMaf, Pooky, or Tayl0r I dunno what to do when he clashes with most of us. Sorry I look for friends in a social interaction game I guess?

[Bambi Jay]

frankly if he doesn't like me, NotMaf, Pooky, or Tayl0r I dunno what to do when he clashes with most of us.

Since when is Pooky in this game?

Do me a solid and ignore my tired brain in that part, and replace it with Pengu.

[Bambi Jay]

I've heard those 2 lines in memes for years. Never knew that there was a full song honestly.

[Bambi Jay]

If I claim scum Mason's with Tayl0r do we kill her first?

[Bambi Jay]

Gamer doesn't like my jokes so I can't, sadly.

[Bambi Jay]

MURDERCAT if you were scum it would break my heart

you wouldn't do that right?!?!?!

Cat's will ALWAYS betray you. Particularly Murderous ones.

[Bambi Jay]

This is really funny.

I think Geniusgamer is like oil trying to mix into water.

Like a disappointed mother who doesn't understand what her son is doing and telling him to get a job already even though he explains what he does online IS his job.

It's like this except with jokes and actually taking one off jokes seriously. Again, I said this before, with Isis I was just incredulous I got scumread for saying what amounted to the same words. I wasn't begging for town points.

NotMaf plz help me. I appear not to speak Zuckerberg like Genius can. Can you translate for me?

[Bambi Jay]

Honestly if you had partners they would've realized to just let you do your thing. You seem more solo scum strength based if your no friends motto means anything.

[Bambi Jay]

I don't think you're making friends here less because you can't ever make friends and more cuz (let's use religion I guess because screw it) you're a Christian amongst athiest, or vice versa. You just... Don't click with most of the player base in my humble stupid opinion.

But this is just me avoiding your other question in my scummy attempt to redirect the subject. Only you see this part of the message though, Genius. Because you're hallucinating me posting this part right now.

[Bambi Jay]

I don't think you're making friends here less because you can't ever make friends and more cuz (let's use religion I guess because screw it) you're a Christian amongst athiest, or vice versa. You just... Don't click with most of the player base in my humble stupid opinion.

I agree with your opinion. Not the second paragraph that only I can supposedly see though. I really don’t think that’s what’s going on, because my clashing with the other players is one of the subjects being discussed.

Second paragraph?

[Bambi Jay]

Guys we bamboozled the alien vessel

I thought we were going for Lizard People. That's why I made the Zuckerberg joke.

Joke = human expression of joy.

[Bambi Jay]

He actually accepted meta. But it was from Bob.

Bob is truly the Avatar.

[Bambi Jay]

Mod putting an extra vote on me to get me killed. For shame.

[Bambi Jay]

When it gets that long a spoiler tag to fold it up is recommended. At least when responding to it

[Bambi Jay]

gg is at e-1 btw

Or rly?

You have no idea how much my lol hammer senses are tingling. NotMaf is using the force on me.

I can't resist much longer.

[Bambi Jay]

That makes me wanna do it more

[Bambi Jay]

Still don't like Pengu, I can already tell I can't read Genius when he's my opposite and this is his first real game on site. You seem smart and slightly townie so I trust you.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah newbie games are babies slap fighting each other. And I don't see much reason otherwise to trust you over Lost.

[Bambi Jay]

Well not when you've mainly focused on me and NotMaf this round I guess.

[Bambi Jay]

Or a robot.

[Bambi Jay]

Genius, I don't know if you've been told this in your newbie game, but generally when there's 3 days left and less, people get more antsy and willing to vote worse decisions.

I for one almost died as a town Jailkeeper because a quick wagon formed on me in an hour and was ready to kill me with 12 hours left.

So my recommendation is to claim now while we can process it before you get the death happening to you.

[Bambi Jay]

Im so tempted to try and make some lolhammer town meta. But in all seriousness Gamer its time to claim

See Gamer, even the Avatar agrees.

[Bambi Jay]

Of course when we want a claim Genius goes to charge his batteries.

[Bambi Jay]

Damnit NotMaf I was gonna hammer just now.

[Bambi Jay]

You vote so I hammer. You already had one this game.

[Bambi Jay]

Well... My lunch break is also ending sadly. So I guess you get it anyway. Sigh.

VOTE: Genius

Ducky: gimme the hammer vote to screw with the cow.

[Bambi Jay]

UNVOTE:

[Bambi Jay]

Damn I was hoping he actually tried to hammer so I had slipped the rug from under him.

[Bambi Jay]

I'll give him an hour before I get off of work and vote.

[Bambi Jay]

If that's your version of comedy then I understand why you couldn't understand me.

VOTE: genius

Also since I'm actually Hider, I'mma hide on NotMaf tonight. Worst case scenario scum kills me and NotMaf only. Not the worst deal tbh.

[Bambi Jay]

bambi are you for real or meming

I don't got a reads list. Followed the plan before and Norway is good.

If I didn't say who I'm on tonight I die with no info. So there.

[Bambi Jay]

I do my own shit. NotMaf took my hammer anyway. Not like town loses much if I die, I ain't the best contributor. Same with NotMaf.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Norwee

pure angervote

Might not be the worst idea tbh. I claimed the way I did to specifically get NotMaf shot but instead they targeted Cat, and ignored me claiming an inno on Norway. So by this theory a few things could've been the case.

1: NotMaf was scum too so they didn't bother to save him and just went after another target. Doubtful.

2: They rather hunt for other PR besides me and didn't take the 2 for 1 kill attempt. Unlikely.

3: Norway knows he evil and knew I was lying so ignored my claim of him being innocent. More likely since I feel like Norway would've been a better kill there anyway from my claim.

4: the mafia tried to 4d chess me and thought I was gonna go down from Norway to Cat on the list because I went the opposite of up, not believing I'd be on NotMaf? Weird.

This is also me out right saying I'm a vanilla townie by the way. But I feel like Norway not dying there and them killing Cat has something to do with it.

VOTE: Norway

[Bambi Jay]

Anyway it was quite obvious you were fake claiming because of a simple problem.
You didn’t target the person above you on night 1.

Mainly because I remembered down instead of up. But considering how much I was against Tracker instead of Vigi and how my up slot or Dong got killed day 1 you'd forgive me going down instead.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm making the case still known for others for the thought process during the night phase, not with how it actually turned out.

[Bambi Jay]

Well if you caught it and used it to murder(cat) him you wouldn't exactly admit you saw the crumb now would you Isis?

[Bambi Jay]

Marathons are WAY different then regular forum mafia. A game that lasts an hour is different from the one that lasts a month.

[Bambi Jay]

Default is NAR so until stated otherwise that's what people assume. And lol at thinking everyone reads the actual wiki.

[Bambi Jay]

again, that requires people reading the mod post instead of just instantly talking in thread after getting the permission too. Bleh.

[Bambi Jay]

That sounds like a Harry Potter creature.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Bobman bad

Anymore vote on him from somebody besides NotMaf is bad.

[Bambi Jay]

I mean, that’s fine for you and nm, but not from most.

How the fuck did I get dragged in to this?

Because we are the same.

[Bambi Jay]

Does the show Lost have something to do with Earth wind and fire?

[Bambi Jay]

Was it made by a Norwegian artist?

I know he gave Isis waswas and we all know my name's. Probably isn't Pengu.

[Bambi Jay]

Fun how she picks 'randomly' who she thinks she has the best chance to kill tho.

And I accept NotMaf calling me that cuz he's cool, but you ain't cool Tayl0r.

[Bambi Jay]

Hmm. I know for sure fact nobody really trusted NotMaf to claim. Maybe they thought Norway was the hider and shot 3 slots up minus the already dead Dong?

[Bambi Jay]

I DID say my first read this game was an evil Pengu.

And it also should be remembered 1 scum equals tracker being a cop. But Bob the Avatar already figured that out

[Bambi Jay]

Think of it like this then. The hider and Tracker are confirmed obviously cuz 1 scum can't CC them anyway, and they just need 2 confirms. Honestly if the Hider has 2 it's already solved.

[Bambi Jay]

Your Australian modkill has the opposite effect of reviving people instead.

For shame.

[Bambi Jay]

Welp I'm off to bed. Don't end the game without me.

[Bambi Jay]

Came just in time to hammer.

VOTE: pengu

Came just in time after murdering NotMaf to finally have a hammer this game.

[Bambi Jay]

Oh. So we get Bob next I guess since Isis cleared Lost. bleh.

I'd say Norway should hide there and Isis tracks him... But that ends in them both dying. So. Eh.

[Bambi Jay]

It's cuz I won the game for town. My hammer was the most important.

[Bambi Jay]

You gotta do what I do Pengu and just ignore your actual role and play whatever you feel like playing.

[Bambi Jay]

Genuine question for Pengu tho. Why did you kill NotMaf last night? I get the other 2 probably influenced the other kills, just wanna know why him.

[Bambi Jay]

Joke answer is he wanted me to hammer him instead.

Real answer? I did say at the beginning of the round I had a feeling Norway was the hider and minus Dong who was dead, NotMaf was 3 up from him. If he kept to the stated plan instead of going on Isis n2 he would've gotten shot.

[Bambi Jay]

Lmfao

[Bambi Jay]

dead chat here to say I beat the duck.

Ha.

[Bambi Jay]

Well mine is on the last page so it's more noticeable. Bleh.