The Trials - ENDGAME

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will the trials be in private or is it formal dress?

VOTE: DGB hullo!

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i want to hide my knobby elbows and eel-like arm flesh from you Lot, what gives

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what the heck

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yo gypyx, DGB, get on board!

this is getting Ridiculous guy. . . .

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the wagon is a piece of crap!

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nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.

shelly crayon-lover?

VOTE: BM are you confident you can pass the trial?

whoa how serious are you being here

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Man come on

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i meant your vote

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i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along

so you are assuming bm is Town,?

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VOTE: Taylor0

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VOTE: Tayl0r

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VOTE: Taylor0

VOTE: Tayl0r

what happened between these two posts to make you change your vote?

I am pretty sure your scum

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what the hell

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pob long is locktown.

shelly is already getting defensive and deflecting from my Consigliere point and saying she could be a Cult Leader instead? Why doesn't it stand for Commuter, shelly? I'm feeling tunneled already.

do tell me why pob long is "locktown"?

hey buddy quit rockin the boat, Will ya?

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I can definitely see taylor / nos there trying to quickhammer

i don't like 45 at all

where is the quickhammer?

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nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.

shelly crayon-lover?

VOTE: BM are you confident you can pass the trial?

whoa how serious are you being here

nice attempt to deflect attention off yourself - im not convinced you care that much about this vote

would you rather I sit here, Tomatoes on my face, being wagoned and sucking my thumb?

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VOTE: Taylor0

VOTE: Tayl0r

I like this. Position of the 0 shows it was a conscious decision to write her name out again, but the way it shifts shows he's not as serious as he's letting on.

?????

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Are you mis-representing my read as a joke?

im not joking around

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not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.

Battle mage said some words, yeah. This is a little extreme....

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I'm with pob on this one. Quickhammer? What?

they quickly voted in succession, seemingly forcing the vote to go closer to E-1 and a townie might accidentally hammer the vote.

6 townies by accident or ?

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I like this. Position of the 0 shows it was a conscious decision to write her name out again, but the way it shifts shows he's not as serious as he's letting on.

I don't get your read; if you really want to overanalyse it i'd say it's slightly scum indicative

Because moving the 0 is a calculated decision and scum are usually more intentional with their posting?

Because making sure thier vote go through in this context reads as excessive nervousness to me, so that leans towards being scum

Like, right now with Pob and BM, that one quote with the "rocking the boat" pinged me as an in-thread "we need to distance from one another."

Actually, imo it's a bit of a towntell. Assuming maf has day chat, wouldn't the mafia buddies freak out in the PT and make him take it back? But he didn't really. Granted maf could just not care or be inacive as they don't think it'll go anywhere, so it's a pretty weak towntell. But i think its a towntell nonetheless

we're just saying Anything this game huh

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I'd still like my question about taylor to be answered

taylor ignored my question too.

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no this

what the hell

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i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along

so you are assuming bm is Town,?

is this the question i ignored? uh yeah, i think that town draws attention to themselves like that more often than scum.

plus that's '''thinking''' bm is town but you took it like it was given!

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That doesn't explain why he misspelled it in the first place. why is scum more likely to go back and correct it?

this pretty funny, I'm not gonna lie

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no this

what the hell

dont worry about it, its just that theres a lizard in your pocket

i am getting a feeling that you aren't taking me seriously.

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i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along

so you are assuming bm is Town,?

is this the question i ignored? uh yeah, i think that town draws attention to themselves like that more often than scum.

plus that's '''thinking''' bm is town but you took it like it was given!

did i? i disagree

Pardon my words were too weak. im thinking you slipped not just made a naive assumption.

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what is my angle here, do ya Think??

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am i a Donkey to you

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what is my angle here, do ya Think??

for sure its obtuse, im thinking maybe 160 degrees or so? not even near right.

am i a Donkey to you

you are coming off as a bit of an ass. thats an interesting question though. hmmm....

im not sure im comfortable with the idea of pob sitting in bed thinking about me

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you should know i am taking your refusal to answer my questions as dodging

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@Fidget and plusjoy
I want you both to answer this.

Do you think pob long is a cat or a dog person? I also want you to explain what you'd do if you walked into a room and found pob long lying face down on his desk, as if he was planking but his legs are too far up the desk so it's not planking. Note, it is the 15th century in this scenario and mobile phones do not exist. You are also in a remote hut in the Sahara Desert. It is built onto an oasis so it is cool and you have water. You also have clothes and oatmeal, but that's about it.

pob long has a scumread and you are 80% sure he is town. Do you follow him on it?

OK what the hell is this?? are you even playing the game???? dont you even care? plus why the h**l would i have a big heavy Oak desk out toe the middle of the desert??

i cant quite tell if pob is trolling, or just dense. which makes it a good troll.

huh????????? you are so scum!!!! you keep on ignoring everything im saying to you you keep on joking around with me you and leia

Stop distracting the game with your gimmick.

Stop distracting the game with your gimmick.

^agree with this guy!

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mod do you not accept bolded votes?

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@Leia

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(And then takes a much more jokey tone once she stacks up some haters, and starts deflecting all serious questions her way with jokes)

whats one serious question i havent given a serious answer to?

OK then ill just keep on braying and Braying and Braying and kicking around the mud

its page 1 or 2 at that point,

idrgaf if you townread or scumread me for it or whatever.

3) yeah im willing to bet BM is town, but its page 1 or 2 at that point, so theres not much to go on. and no it doesnt contradict the reasoning for the original vote, because youre putting words in my mouth.

this kinda misrep is really not a townie thing to do.

VOTE: leia

looks like you do care about how leia's stance since it`s why your voting her. sooo the first bolded part is basicly says ''sticks and stones may break my bones'' which i dont know why town would say that to who they think scum is.

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You said you don't care about whether I townread or scumread you in the first bolded part, but then in the second bolded part, it shows you do care and think I'm scum for it.

It's also strange to say the first part to someone you think is scum.

i literally just said that

I'm not actually.... I'm -watching- Pob because there's somethings that give me some bad vibes. Which is why I am asking you

Might be the smell! im sorry! (joking)

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like leia and pob. im trying to engage with you and answer your questions. but half of them seem like jokes, and the other half dont make sense. i feel like ive picked out all the serious and valid things youve said and responded. i asked pob if he was trolling and he gave a trollish answer, which to me suggests trolling. unless someone else brings up issues i should address, im gonna move on with my life and get back to scumhunting rather than whatever this was. because i really dont know what to make of pob and leia atm. they might be difficult to sort because they have the same playstyle as me, and my playstyle doesnt make sense.

who are you talking to?

(And then takes a much more jokey tone once she stacks up some haters, and starts deflecting all serious questions her way with jokes)

whats one serious question i havent given a serious answer to?

OK then ill just keep on braying and Braying and Braying and kicking around the mud

its page 1 or 2 at that point,

idrgaf if you townread or scumread me for it or whatever.

3) yeah im willing to bet BM is town, but its page 1 or 2 at that point, so theres not much to go on. and no it doesnt contradict the reasoning for the original vote, because youre putting words in my mouth.

this kinda misrep is really not a townie thing to do.

VOTE: leia

looks like you do care about how leia's stance since it`s why your voting her. sooo the first bolded part is basicly says ''sticks and stones may break my bones'' which i dont know why town would say that to who they think scum is.

holy hell a pob post that makes sense wtf?

come on

Can we do a real time interaction test? I want to test your speed. I'll give you a question and I want to see how fast you can answer it.

RUNNIng MAWYy

RUNNIng MAWYy

is this a question?

Are you ready to answer my question? I'll post it as soon as you post again.

The fourth post was 40 seconds after her post. We were having a conversation and she'd just asked me a question, so it's natural that she refreshes to see my response, and I think it's extremely likely that she saw my followup but decided not to respond.

I think that's all completely ridiculous and doesn't imply anything. I'm quite prepared to buy Taylor as scum, but that argument is so weak and contrived it makes me more interested in you.

she's stealing my reasons because hers arnt good, too

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not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.

I disagree, town is heavily incentivized to exe scum D1, therefore a gambit like that will not get a lot of weight on it's own imo, especially considered that BM unvoted pretty fast

I don't think we're disagreeing. I just don't see a weak scum player making that move.

Also, missed that post, you consider battle game as a weak scum? (I mean, i don't really know the guy, but he looks experienced at least)

You misunderstood. I just think 90% of scum players in this site are gutless and wouldn't make that move because there was a chance for it to backfire however small and a town player wouldn't care because of the additional wincon.

i still think your leaning on this a little extra hard, pal

Also, i think we probably have 1-2 scum in the more "Lurky" players, do you all agree ? (i'm mainly susp of nosferatu while saying that)

100%. Like you said scum will try and avoid the day 1 execution.

this post has no meaning?

So we have Pob, Taylor, and BM town v scum discussions going on atm. By rolling thru and reading, so far I have PL and as town for now. POB, I'm watching you.

Like, I tried reading this sentence a bunch of times and I still have no idea of your actual stance.

ill help trust me, NOBODY calls me PL

I guess everyone in this game is just meme'ing.

tomorrow il

tell me about it

Wooo hello everyone, btw i have a curse that makes me alternate scum and town games, can i be conftown? K thx

I'm suspicious in part because I looked into this, and it isn't true at all. You rolled town twice in a row, and also rolled scum twice in a row.

Gives me even more inclination that you're setting in gambler's fallacy psychological tricks on us to make us think you're town.

Somebody called for a gambler's fallacy?

I have a theory that every trial is influenced by the trials that happened before btw

Also, might be me overanalysing wording but "the game starts with 12 vanilla town and 3 mafia goon" leaves room open for us gaining PR's later, does that seem like a realistic possibility?

OP said that there are 6 possible trials, based on day and alignment. I don't think that they're based on previous results; I think there's D1 town, D1 mafia, D2 town, D2 mafia, D3 town, and D3 mafia, and what those are should already be set. Scum team also decides on consequences, if I understood the setup correctly, so it's possible that their choices will change things more than the results.

big balls Mage here, volunteering to do the first trial.

Vote: Battle Mage

bad executions can be VERY bad for either team, especially a Day 1 scum execution.

Because this, going willingly to trial D1 is against your alignement in every case, even more than normally

I disagree with gypyx here. You can, as town, get a win for yourself even if your team loses, making a jester-like play possible (but if you jesterwin here, it's because you did well and that will help town). We know that trials are difficult for town to succeed. With no mention of mafia, I'm inferring that it's not difficult for mafia to succeed. However, passing trials helps town, not the team of whoever passed, so sending scum to a trial will give them a situation where they need to decide to help town at the risk of their own success, or fail and hope that one of their buddies also doesn't go to trial.

It's better for us to send scum to trial. It's bad news for us to send lynchbait to trial. It can be good for us to send competent town to trial, but at the end of the day I think it just comes down to, scumhunt and eliminate scum.

not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.

I agree with this. I've been trying to think whether it's better to send competent town or scum to trial D1. So BM can be town for now.

Gypyx's responses give me the vibe of scum being cornered tbh

Cornered on what lmao, this whole conversation had no link to the game

Weird that you don't see it, or are trying to brush it off.


Also, V/LA until Saturday, more emphasis on limited access. I'll be around but won't really be able to focus on the game until then.

Barely read this post at all, but probably scum for giving serious replies/thoughts without noticing the general wtf-nature of the game

I Agree!

@Fidget and plusjoy
I want you both to answer this.

Do you think pob long is a cat or a dog person? I also want you to explain what you'd do if you walked into a room and found pob long lying face down on his desk, as if he was planking but his legs are too far up the desk so it's not planking. Note, it is the 15th century in this scenario and mobile phones do not exist. You are also in a remote hut in the Sahara Desert. It is built onto an oasis so it is cool and you have water. You also have clothes and oatmeal, but that's about it.

pob long has a scumread and you are 80% sure he is town. Do you follow him on it?

Definately a cuckatoo person. I bet he'd probably teach him wacky insults in mandarin. Goes well to relax during said planking

i dont like all you people using your imagination on My life that stuff is very personal

This is spot on. Fidget is town.

I Agree!

Princess Leia is being replaced.

WUT

Oh and Red Panda is town.

I Agree!

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Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

could be

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pob in your latest post you didnt mention me. thats the first time youve done that in a while. does that mean your read on me has shifted?

why would i do that

I was a bit confused with pob earlier but I've decided that I love him regardless of alignment. Sorry for taking time to get warmed up to you pob lol

'pob long''

I'm not reading pages of people quadra posting. If you got something to say, be more efficient.

Alright

yeah marachu is Town

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Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

could be

pob long, if that is your real name, I think you're probably town even if you're a HTV.

what is that

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if Petes your name too.

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Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

could be

pob long, if that is your real name, I think you're probably town even if you're a HTV.

what is that

Because you posted your driver's license photo I'm assuming you were recently reinstated. My first guess was you were a habitual traffic violator, but that might be unfair. Could just be a DWS.

.....What in the..... this game keeps on getting weirder. im afraid to ask whats a DWS

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VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I hate the opening. Shading me opportunistically is super scummy. I don’t care if you call this OMGUS because I think shading me isn’t pro town at all at this point

I don’t think my listing of reads is fake and pointless. They are initial impressions and I’m still gutreading people atm

Why you are still developing initial impressions after 15 pages? Could it be because you're making them up as you go along?

I had an initial impression (note the past tense). It was that you were scummy.

I have a current impression (note the present tense). It is that you are scum.

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why did you vote shelly not taylor

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I mean... 3 peeps to gladiate : 0 scum = horrible / 1 scum = failure / 2 scum = success / 3 scum = perfect

I find it really fitting tbh, and maybe scum has a say in the result

for day 1??? thats way too powerful

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Titus, given that we know that the OP says a D1 scum lynch will be especially bad for town, how does that impact how youre gonna look at the voted on D1?

is this what you think that means or what you think titus thinks it is?

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??????????/ did I miss something completely Ridiculous???

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im here, Everyone, i am sorry i must apologise for my outburst earlier on. that was very uncalled for, i hope you All wont look at me any different from before

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so we can only vote three people, ok? I have to read this game all over again

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UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

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*/unvote

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Plusjoy makes it hard to chose the right answer here...

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I told you