Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Ydrasse]

...if you’re under some influences is it possible you posted her mistakenly too though?

i don’t think colors is a strong defense if you admit to being under some influence

[Ydrasse]

I Dont Wanna Move On

[Ydrasse]

i’ll be around in like ~1 hr sorry

[Ydrasse]

i’m just dumb tbh

[Ydrasse]

not noticing the hammer stuff LOL

[Ydrasse]

here is the towngame that iv and i played together that i'm gonna be reading through now if anyone cares to read it too.

ignore my scumplay.

[Ydrasse]

i am going to give iv the benefit of the doubt just for a little bit while i try to chip through this game in full again, because if kerset is real and that wasn't a slip i feel kind of lost now, i'd probably vote plus i guess but i don't know for sure

[Ydrasse]

i was voting them a good while ago before i was swayed to the nefarious kerset wagon

i switched over to kerset because i didn't think my vote was gonna do anything in the way of pressure on osuka but i can't remember anything /recently/ that made me go ??

i also have been checked out a lil bit since the kerset wagon picked up steam though and not doing as thorough of a job as i should so i'll revisit that slot

[Ydrasse]

Post it now, "Game Moderator"

[Ydrasse]

imo you only lose if you're town by not following what you think might be right esp when the game is like This

if you're scum dont do it

[Ydrasse]

i must admit i'm lying when i say i have any confidence in my reads this game but i'm going with it anyways and i would like people to do the same. go crazy

[Ydrasse]

iv be honest with me............

are you scum?

[Ydrasse]

and I should probably put a filter on my towngame as well instead of just spamming whatever thought comes into my mind

i have something new to work on

pedit: nope

okay good all is well then

[Ydrasse]

let me look over osuka

[Ydrasse]

just realized i had 3 tabs of osuka's iso opened so apparently i've been trying to do this for a bit

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: osuka

this is subject to change

[Ydrasse]

i think? i feel okay? about taylor? after reading the iso?

[Ydrasse]

Ok that's it go the hell to bed

[Ydrasse]

i think i townread people who post a lot

[Ydrasse]

osuka, i read through the towngame i shared w iv and i've started skimming his iso and i feel like... i'm reading the same thing more or less, i.e. town iv? i don't get a sense that there's a difference btwn the two games.

like, you're saying iv's obvscumming but i'm not seeing it so i need you to hold my hand and walk me through it

[Ydrasse]

ill do the vcs and post Fun and Friendly images : )

[Ydrasse]

aHhHhHHh

i wanna hear what everyone thinks abt the slip/reaction

[Ydrasse]

i am scared of voting out a doctor

[Ydrasse]

):

[Ydrasse]

UNVOTE:

i dont remember if im voting anymore

i will.... reconsider it tomorrow

[Ydrasse]

i miss ndmath

[Ydrasse]

?

?

[Ydrasse]

my hero arrives

[Ydrasse]

... i tr all those people. dare i say a little townblock of mine

[Ydrasse]

i'm not wanting to vote out a doctor is what i'm doing

i unvoted osuka anyways because i don't Know right now

[Ydrasse]

kerset, why didn't you crumb your role earlier?

i feel like it's weird that it took 1100 posts and mounting pressure on you to crumb it; you had some interaction with teacher where you two butted heads a little bit and /then/ you took the opportunity to finally do something about it. my assumption reading over it is that you thought that the gamestate might eventually shift away from you but after having some unfavorable reads outted on you you felt the need to create a backup plan so that you could fall back on it should things get bad. i also think that you would have enough awareness to know where the votes were and all?

you did reappear very soon after the "hammer", and i'm unsure if you were taking a chance to strike while things were tense to try and use that to your advantage to shift the game's suspicions away. (side note: to me this implicates partners with low presence/who weren't around to do so for you). i know that it was your first time being in the thread since yesterday too though, so i'm trying not to focus too hard on that but i feel like you're neither above ate nor fake-claiming as scum when need be.

my sole caveat is that doctor is very... vague, compared to something like that game we shared where you put a decent amount of thought into it. i don't know if you thought maybe if you went vague it'd feel different to the people (me, iv) who were reading over that game previously/played it?

so yeah. why didn't you do it earlier on, basically?

[Ydrasse]

:<

i don't want to think my little townblock would have evil within it but i also think i am prone to pocketing so perhaps tomorrow i shall... shall examine it...

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: kerset

round 2

[Ydrasse]

bout to hammer you for that

[Ydrasse]

bout to hammer you for that

me or iv? because i'm definitely down with lynching at least one of the two options

Pay for your sins.

[Ydrasse]

wtf

[Ydrasse]

im losing it ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

every time i look into this thread to see waht eveyones posting about something awful is happening

[Ydrasse]

yeah how dare those anime lovers invade our lands

[Ydrasse]

give me a reason to read berserk

[Ydrasse]

um.

do we think that town + mafia have a ~saving power?

[Ydrasse]

also does rolestopper existing have any impact on the earlier ascetic claim alignment wise?

[Ydrasse]

ndmath claimed it like. at the very beginning of the game

[Ydrasse]

i don't know how ascetic works with this because i don't get setup spec but it's like...

i feel that it's ~confirmed~ by a rolestopper but i think the value of claiming it early on diminishes the value of knowing for town or something

[Ydrasse]

bob has left me thoroughly unimpressed

(i want to feel included)

[Ydrasse]

i'd feel safer voting for bob ig

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: bob

watever

[Ydrasse]

what the hell is happening

[Ydrasse]

i don't want to reread this game because it's almost 100 pages d1

let me *sigh* glance over teacher bc informed could just be talking about partner or s/t

/shrug

[Ydrasse]

i have nothing to say rn my mind is checked out of mafia rn

[Ydrasse]

bob > osuka > kerset

of relevant names rn

teacher ig but i also am over this day and i'll flip w/e

[Ydrasse]

are we going to break the record for longest normal

[Ydrasse]

i think an osuka wagon could go through but why osuka over bob?

[Ydrasse]

in all reality i’ll just keep repeating i want this day to be over so as long as the reason isn’t really dumb then i’ll do it

[Ydrasse]

kerset this is not a spamming contest and this makes me want to lim you even more

you're -10 on my radar

This game clearly is a spamming contest. Players should be restricting themselves to 10ish posts a day. Not this spam that your as guilty of as 6 other players.


Look at everyone of my posts there either a read, pushign a read or inquiring about something

this and also talking too much about prior games while also posting this

[Ydrasse]

what if i said he doesn’t pass my vibe check

[Ydrasse]

you’re all freaks

[Ydrasse]

i sat down + tried to reread osuka again and i feel like i don’t know how to read osuka so he wins

in all reality there’s a lot of ~vague~ and ~off~ in there esp early on which like, meh and the way of solving is not as... proactive? as it could be i suppose? there are reads in there but i don’t feel like i saw any solving. it’s like identifyinh what puzzle pieces are without trying to put them together. also i think that it’ll help sort like. a ton of people if osuka is flipped.

i might also be bad at reading osuka though

[Ydrasse]

i would also request a bob reread tho

[Ydrasse]

andres it’s you and me against the world rn

[Ydrasse]

also let me get on my laptop so i can think normally

[Ydrasse]

like frankly if you want to figure out what i'm thinking then you can either ask me specific questions or figure it out for yourself. it's not my job to dump my brain into a thread because you feel like looking at it

okay, can you give me three names right now that gth you'd call a solve, and a very small reason they're tied together? like, it can be super bare bones but there is a lot of posting going on right now.

show me like, something here that shows you've put a little thought into it beyond uh. outting reads and then not doing too much with them please?

[Ydrasse]

if andres is scum i want to die btw. just kill me tonight.

[Ydrasse]

*deep breath*

i think that osuka helps me solve teacher/plus/iv to some extent if osuka is flipped + i feel like i am having an easier time figuring out the issues i have with his iso over bob's who i sort more into ~unimpressive~ than anything else for lack of content though i do think there are some good things in there it fell off a lot (activity granted bc i know bob said he works long hours for a lot of the week). the passiveness in conjunction with a strong start might be scum-indicative but it also might just be life.

[Ydrasse]

also after all of this osuka helps me sort mena obvi because if this is tvt i am going to also, gently, request to be the nightkill

[Ydrasse]

:(
scum pogging in the chat at this awful TvT rn

why is it tvt and why are you sitting on the sidelines like "well look at this". what are your thoughts, why is it tvt, what's the solve, etc.

[Ydrasse]

let me look through your iso plus to see i am very overwhelmed by this game atm

[Ydrasse]

no. suffer while i read.

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: osuka

i dont like any of the alternatives that ppl care about and this is giving me an aneurysm to try and sort and i've wanted to vote this slot like 3 times throughout the day so whatever i hope past me had a good vibe check and current me has a semblance of a logic roll passing for this one

[Ydrasse]

osuka if you are town in your name i'll deathtunnel (1) person of your choice

[Ydrasse]

sorry iv, you heard him

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

i do not think osuka going offline after they said they were going offline is the slam dunk you wanted among all of this tbh

[Ydrasse]

like I'm fine with osuka but their posting was decent

kerset def scummier than osuka but i don't like "kerset is locktown"
iv slipped
and taylor is still not solving

this is a bit nitpicky, probably, but shelly; throughout the game there has been a consistent theme of you calling osuka slimy/etc etc, but there's this little lapse here. what's that about?

[Ydrasse]

where did taylor go this game

[Ydrasse]

Big what

post it coward

[Ydrasse]

i was okay with taylor earlier on and the wagon made me ? because i thought it was like oh quiet slot being a little aloof but at this point i'm just like oh quiet slot being a little lurky

this game is probably a headache to deal with though for a lot of ppl

[Ydrasse]

teacher understand my need to vote bob at heart

[Ydrasse]

what the hell is going on

[Ydrasse]

i hope im everyones biggest tr so i get nightkilled

[Ydrasse]

iv is the only wagon we have a feasible chance of at this point huh

i'll hammer before i go to bed ig i don't want to though

[Ydrasse]

everything feels like white noise at this point

[Ydrasse]

i don't even know what you two are fighting about

[Ydrasse]

anyone wanna play tic tac toe

[Ydrasse]

i'm worn out by (1) day being 125 pages and i don't want to solve right now

p-edit don't sweet talk me like that

i'll be awake for a while so i'll hammer something before i sleep

[Ydrasse]

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i'm o's

p-edit please god tell me what vi'ing is

p-edit again i'm hardclaiming then

also let me actually look at the vc now because i was gonna hammer iv

[Ydrasse]

do not rush me lest you all face my wrath (not voting for another hour)

i am trying to read a few things before i decide if i wanna do it yes i am hammersitting no i don't care

[Ydrasse]

why do you guys lie to me when i'm tired

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: iv

mercy killing

[Ydrasse]

if anyone lies to me about vc again i'm going to have some very hurt feelings

[Ydrasse]

i hope im the nightkill instead

[Ydrasse]

this game is exhausting

[Ydrasse]

tunnel me if you want i will humbly nod at it

[Ydrasse]

i don't know how you all manage to project absolute confidence in this reads all the time but that seems more exhausting

[Ydrasse]

in death i'll have freedom

[Ydrasse]

anyone wanna play tic tac toe now

[Ydrasse]

also iv i hope you feel better

[Ydrasse]

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i'm o's

[Ydrasse]

you're right, you caught me

[Ydrasse]

i don't have any other games but tic tac toe

[Ydrasse]

you know i'm fragile don't yell at me

[Ydrasse]

i have a way to wear down frosty hearts

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

i'm not good at mafia yet so i have to win somehow

[Ydrasse]

anyone wanna play tic tac toe

let's do it

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[Ydrasse]

anyone wanna play tic tac toe

let's do it

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[Ydrasse]

anyone wanna play tic tac toe

let's do it

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[Ydrasse]

i'm 3p

yes osuka

[Ydrasse]

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[Ydrasse]

i concede actually i would feel bad playing a long game like c4 for pages

p-edit side effect of this game

[Ydrasse]

no i refuse

[Ydrasse]

i read the new twilight book like a week ago

[Ydrasse]

no osuka i'm taking a stand

[Ydrasse]

anyways, my book review is that: it sucked but i had fun reading it sometimes

[Ydrasse]

Stop it

[Ydrasse]

i would like to claim...

[Ydrasse]

i need steps on how to grow that

[Ydrasse]

yes i have no faith in me own

[Ydrasse]

i used to do that but it was a while ago

going out in public rn feels like a bad idea tho

[Ydrasse]

if you cannot observe other people's minds, do they truly exist? if others cannot observe the existence of your mind, then does your mind exist? if your mind doesn't provably exist, then do you exist at all?

yes

[Ydrasse]

i miss you guys

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

Yes

[Ydrasse]

can i offer you an alternative explanation

[Ydrasse]

suit yourself

[Ydrasse]

anyone who thinks i am some sort of deepwolf who would hammer there is a little dumb and needs to do a tiny bit more critical thinking. thank you.

[Ydrasse]

also it’s equally as dumb to think that i, wolf!ydrasse, would kill saudade.

especially if i’m partnered with kerset. you can argue it’s wifom but in what world would the two of us confirm the person who tunneled one of us and was going to tunnel the other as town n1?

kerset however can be scum independently of me. i do not want to put kerset at e-1 this early into the day though. consider it a vote in spirit.

and if you’re wondering why i hammered: we had a small amount of time left and i wasn’t going to let our wagons fracture again that close to eod. i didn’t like iv as a vote but it was a preferable alternative to no-vote.

[Ydrasse]

now, time to look at who was on the iv wagon.

[Ydrasse]

taylor, plus, osuka, teacher, ndmath.

of these i’d vote plus or osuka. maybe taylor.

[Ydrasse]

yeah i think the simplest solve for me rn is plus/kerset/osuka.

[Ydrasse]

i don't feel much up to the act of mafia today and trying to read this is like word salad

[Ydrasse]

aren't you the one saying meta is trash tho

[Ydrasse]

meta is useful when it isn't used against you

[Ydrasse]

off the top of my head there's a newbie game, 2012 or something some time ago and forest fire

i think those are the only finished ones

[Ydrasse]

oh my god can someone unvote so if osuka is scum they don’t self hammer i’m tired of this

[Ydrasse]

also if i’m scummy for being quiet compared to d1 i don’t care this game has been draining and we rushed through d2 i really just don’t care

[Ydrasse]

i just don’t want someone to do something dumb and whoops we lost another day of this game

[Ydrasse]

i can be drained and still want to win it and i really don’t know why you think that’s a contradiction.

[Ydrasse]

sorry if i’m snappy, i’m cranky and this game is a bit of a headache.

[Ydrasse]

why does there have to be a ~deepwolf~ here.

[Ydrasse]

at least i can get pagetops.

[Ydrasse]

why can’t the town just be a mess on d1 instead when we’re at our lowest info.

[Ydrasse]

dadydrasse

delete this @datisi

[Ydrasse]

plus i have a feeling that you’re scum backed up into a corner and you’re trying to throw out some weird theories in an effort to try and deflect elims away from you.

[Ydrasse]

let me see what gun-wielding memes i have

[Ydrasse]

Spoiler:

[Ydrasse]

don’t invoke that evil into the world

and plus why are you fine with being elimmed if you’re town?

[Ydrasse]

...????

[Ydrasse]

LOL

[Ydrasse]

if osuka flips scum there is definitely at least 1 scum in {plus, shelly} for the weird back and forths they've been having this game

osuka, i shall be your honor guard. who shall fall by my blade if you're town?

[Ydrasse]

osuka flips town*

brain machine dying

[Ydrasse]

honestly i dunno why i'm being pushed as the miselim next but i also don't think the people doing it have sat down and had a think about it if they're town.

[Ydrasse]

you should have a little self awareness of why i, as town, would be suspicious of someone calling me scummy.

you're smarter than this.

[Ydrasse]

you seem to really want people to know that plus does weird things as town.

do you think plus can do weird things as scum?

[Ydrasse]

ooooh ok PoE is cool

if kerset ends up red plusjoy's taylor pivot is very concerning

what happened to this energy.

[Ydrasse]

actually, you were coming around to kerset being town, huh.

[Ydrasse]

I retract my earlier statements

maybe voting kerset isn't that bad of an idea

this was a weird turnaround on kerset.

[Ydrasse]

Saudade's charisma got to me.

I was never trying Kerset but I wanted to make Taylor the priority so yeah

kerset is probably town due to the TMI but I do not like the AtE

teacher is waffly recently and quite concerning

plus didn't you TR iv btw your reads are super wack

[Ydrasse]

you do a lot of bouncing back and forth on kerset being okay, but wait maybe town, but wait no it's fine to vote kerset... okay guys kerset is SUPER DUPER scum.

[Ydrasse]

because there was a point in time in which the doc save could have kept kerset alive, and it is around this time that you were trying to capitalize on that point.

when it wasn't fruitful, you reverted to a scumread.

[Ydrasse]

please tell me how everyone else is confirmed, again?

[Ydrasse]

also, please tell me the thought process behind a team that is me/kerset/whoever.

do i, the "deepwolf", decide that it is worth it to hammer someone, and then kill the person who has focused solely on myself and my partner? who is then flipped, and then also allowing prs to do what they want? how does that set up a winning gamestate for my team instead of me allowing things to run their course and keeping my vote where it was? the wagon at that point had less than 24 hours and it was unlikely for anything to consolidate again. so what benefits did i receive other than everyone going ??? at me hammering like that?

p-edit: you have missed the point so spectacularly i cannot imagine this being in good faith.

[Ydrasse]

words have meaning. you keep using terms like that, but you're not thinking about the gamestate as a whole; do you think that in this game that two people, who are widely townread in this theoretical, let their partner go down like that? surely they have enough sway over people who are townreading them to convince them otherwise, yeah?

do you scumread mena? do you think that there is any indication of what he, or andre, or taylor (who are "confirmed" to you) has done so far are efforts to lead the town astray?

[Ydrasse]

please, tell me what the wincon is for me + kerset + someone else for making that play, and who fits that bill.

[Ydrasse]

you don't need a wall.

i am asking you, very simply, what the wincon is for me/kerset/someone else making that play. how do we win doing what we have done so far?

[Ydrasse]

like, there is clearly no powerbussing going on here given the fact that i hammered a townie, yeah? how does that fit in?

[Ydrasse]

like, there is clearly no powerbussing going on here given the fact that i hammered a townie, yeah? how does that fit in?

[Ydrasse]

(the point i'm getting at here is that you've got a tinfoil hat on regarding me when the answer is a lot simpler most likely)

(or you're scum)

[Ydrasse]

regardless, i'd still flip plus first because i haven't forgotten about those sideline comments from d1.

[Ydrasse]

...so what part of that is me hardbussing kerset?

[Ydrasse]

what part of my iso screams that i bussed kerset d2?

i didn't even vote kerset; i said my vote was there on spirit. wouldn't i want to be on it for the towncred...?

[Ydrasse]

you're either overly-confident as town for some reason or scum.

p-edit: but i was off it during the moments matter why? if i'm bussing, isn't the point of me keeping my vote on kerset so people can see i voted out scum?

[Ydrasse]

like, if you're town at this point i really don't know how to get the point across that my actions are counter-intuitive to the narrative you're trying to write for scum!ydrasse and scum!kerset.

you can say it's wifom this, or wifom that, but sometimes you just have to accept things as they are at face value.

[Ydrasse]

i genuinely think you should tone it down a bit. like, regardless of alignment.

p-edit: it's not my job but that was also a piece of advice for you to mull over. if you try to think everything is wifom over and over you're going to end up in a paranoid cycle over everyone's actions.

[Ydrasse]

like, that's exactly the sort of thing you need to tone down. i am trying to advise something to you that might help you as you play.

[Ydrasse]

@_@

[Ydrasse]

i'm peacing out for the night.

[Ydrasse]

but if i had to choose other scum i think its ydrasse

if me going over why a kerset/ydrasse/x team makes no sense for the actions of this game so far you’re a lost cause or scum.

[Ydrasse]

like, you can say i’m scummy but why? what posts do you think are scummy, and how do they benefit a scumteam i’m on?

[Ydrasse]

that hammer was townie af

VOTE: iv

mercy killing

ydr conftown

agree

like lol.

[Ydrasse]

what is your progression on me plus? conftown to scum for... a hammer that you thought was towny?

[Ydrasse]

plus is vengeful
osuka and shelly talk
bob and andres talk
me and shelly y’all

etc

[Ydrasse]

i’d reread some of it tbh

[Ydrasse]

plus is holding me hostage by threatening to shoot me for some reason

[Ydrasse]

that hammer was townie af

VOTE: iv

mercy killing

ydr conftown

agree

like lol.

that was a joke making fun of saude that didn't actually make you townie

nothing about your posting during this time makes it a joke.

[Ydrasse]

Vote count 1.final
with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

execution

innocentvillager [7]: Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka, innocentvillager, teacher, NDMath, Ydrasse [HAMMER]
teacher [2]: Kerset, bob3141
PlusJOYED [2]: Andresvmb, Menalque
Kerset [2]: Saudade, shellyc

Not Voting [0]:

flip

innocentvillager has been executed Day 1. He was a Vanilla Townie.

The sun sets, it is now Night 1. Sunrise in (expired on 2020-09-20 12:00:00).

mod notes

~ hi i just woke up

flavour

I still can't believe IV flipped town, what the hell IV?
Anyway, him being town and sau flip does impact my reads quite a bit.
Kerset claimed gated so i could see them being town still. That or mafia has a roleblocker. Still my TR on them has weakened with flips.
Mena is definitely town imo, scum wouldn't go that hard to save a townie. Super strong obvtown
If osuka is still after mena I think he's probably scumbinned at this point, town wouldn't do that
Shelly is still town
Ndmath is still super scummy
Bob scumlean I think
Teacher i needs to read iso
Andres obvtown
ydrasse seems towny overall, I think the hammer may have been exhaustion

jokes btw

[Ydrasse]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

To avoid being lynched? Why else?

You really think someone would claim vengful. Rather than someing liek VC, tracker, watcher. ect

this is why.

[Ydrasse]

and it’s obvious how exactly...? because of someone else’s reads or...?

[Ydrasse]

i do not know what else i can do to get through to you plus that my actions this game alongside a scum!kerset's make no sense. i really don't.

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: plus

like you haven't even formulated a reason why other than "i trust someone else's reads now".

[Ydrasse]

i'm pretty sure that it's by virtue of the current poe being (correctly) narrow at this point and you need to push some miselims through. and you chose me because...???

[Ydrasse]

and if you're town, and you shoot me despite basically EVERYONE ELSE in this game saying that that is suboptimal for town? that's not on me at this point.

[Ydrasse]

(－‸ლ)

i have a feeling they're just gonna shoot me anyways.

[Ydrasse]

so looking at this vc there like. has to be scum between these three right?

[Ydrasse]

i do think there is probably another town pr that hasn't claimed but idk who it is
my shot being wrong would seriously suck but i still think it's ydrasse
i prefer to be the nk though

you... prefer to be the night kill... as vengeful?

[Ydrasse]

yes im kinda scared of fucking over town

if you're actually vengeful town you are at your most useful by letting the town as a whole guide your shot. not you picking on your own.

[Ydrasse]

i just don't want to be hero shot AHHHH

[Ydrasse]

why is that on your mind right now