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Post Post #1608 (isolation #200) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 am

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why would I claim VT if I was scum, I’m probably getting eliminated anyway
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #201) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:54 am

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I’m obvtown to me I guess because I don’t think scum!me can play this way maybe I’m wrong
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #202) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:56 am

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andres who is the team based on your thinking?

and what will you do when I flip green
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #203) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 1612, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1608, innocentvillager wrote:why would I claim VT if I was scum, I’m probably getting eliminated anyway

So you could say that.

And the fact you have said makes it obvous you are very much aware.
but it still doesn’t make sense for me to claim VT When I literally get eliminated as a VT
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Post Post #1617 (isolation #204) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 1614, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1613, innocentvillager wrote:andres who is the team based on your thinking?

and what will you do when I flip green
You are not flipping green.
I do flip green and your probability or 99.99% is obviously off but it’s so off I think it’s town

anyway do start thinking of the actual scumteam when I flip, I trust you will lead the town to victory and avenge my unfortunate feath
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #205) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:00 am

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it is a real argument though like it literally does not make sense for scum!me to claim VT

why do you not think town!me wouldn’t try to defend himself with that

and yes I’m sorry for not thinking before posting in a lurid state I do apologize I did fuck uo there
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Post Post #1622 (isolation #206) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:01 am

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I didn’t TR kerset really, I suppose I should’ve put more independent thought into it
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Post Post #1623 (isolation #207) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:01 am

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I do lightly TR Taylor though
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Post Post #1624 (isolation #208) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:01 am

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and always have
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #209) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:02 am

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I’m starting to believe the whole “town slip more than scum” argument now

as scum I just don’t “slip” like this no way I’m too self conscious
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #210) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:03 am

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I mean I’ve kind of accepted my elim at this point I fucked up and there’s not much I can say to convince you guys apparently
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Post Post #1628 (isolation #211) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:03 am

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so how could it be wifom
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #212) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 am

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i want to think bobs interrogation of me is genuine but it could be a play for towncred so idk
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Post Post #1630 (isolation #213) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 am

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tbf it is probably a genuine interrogation as either alignment
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Post Post #1632 (isolation #214) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:05 am

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I am flailing town just desperate to get last thoughts out before y’all hammer me

And maybe god shines upon me and people change their mind but I don’t expect that to happen really
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #215) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:06 am

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wow I really fucked town this game singlehandedly didn’t I
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #216) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:07 am

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this is going in my sig or wiki or something idk

maybe one of you can sig my 1518
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #217) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:08 am

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townies to those of you out there with an open mind reread my iso without 1518 and 1519 and tell me that isn’t a town iso
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #218) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:09 am

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tbh at this point I kind of just want to see your faces when I flip

but I do feel bad honestly; I play to win not just to troll and this makes me sad
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #219) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:09 am

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and yes I ate here as both alignments okay
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #220) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:12 am

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But I don’t think scum!me ever is in this spot because no way would scum!me fuck up the colors

I asked him
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #221) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:28 am

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who’s scum when I flip green, mena?
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Post Post #1644 (isolation #222) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:29 am

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<3 but don’t flip plus
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #223) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:54 am

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my hero
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #224) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:55 am

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andres is my new top townread and mena is getting up there for sure
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #225) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:56 am

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UNVOTE: kerset

I do kinda feel like I should eat rope today for reasons stated of me just getting to LYLO and getting absolutely fucked

like if there isn’t anyone we feel strongly about I should probably be the one to go, ate here sorry not sorry but it’s probably true
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #226) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:58 am

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if I had more time to go back and reread for lots of interactions and shit I would probably fight a little harder to stay alive but tbh mafia is draining on my RL and I don’t hate the idea of taking one for the team and peacing
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #227) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:00 pm

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i don’t scumread osuka

if everyone is hating on plusjoyed it is *possible* I am wrong for sure but I would need to reread, idk if I’m going to though
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #228) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:04 pm

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i don’t have any names but like on principle anyone who like wasn’t like really here in this chaos just gained some scum equity, id have to reread some of the chaos
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #229) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:09 pm

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I’m not going to defend osuka with reasoning if you guys want osuka by all means get osuka
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #230) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 1707, Menalque wrote:I like very lightly agree with that but also IRL + timezones

Anyone who was around on site and not posting here has +scum equity but I don’t think that’s anyone? Or at least not that I noticed
yeah I get it but I feel like scum on balance would rather just chill and watch the gamestate develop whereas town almost invariably wants to get involved

maybe this is too vague and noisy like you said though
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #231) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:12 pm

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like I’m sure scum just like had a fucking field day when that happened, I see no reason to get aggressively involved in the thread

like maybe one of them was at most
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #232) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:13 pm

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you’re right. I’m sorry and I should watch what I post more even when I am in a very weird mood and I think your reaction has been pretty reasonable
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #233) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:14 pm

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and I should probably put a filter on my towngame as well instead of just spamming whatever thought comes into my mind

i have something new to work on

pedit: nope
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Post Post #1726 (isolation #234) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:16 pm

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ehh I think I will wait a bit before voting this time but I do note the urgency to vote at this stage
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #235) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:17 pm

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he’s just going to yell about how I am scum and he’s not going to give reasons and I’m not going to defend myself or case him
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #236) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:18 pm

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VOTE: osuka
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #237) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:18 pm

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sorry kerset I have no independent thought
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Post Post #1735 (isolation #238) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:19 pm

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VOTE: saudade I have a hotter take actually
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Post Post #1739 (isolation #239) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm

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actually this is stupid this slot isn’t going D1 it literally only goes through if saudade is green

VOTE: Osuka
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #240) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:21 pm

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maybe I will high effort and reread a little d2, maybe not

I probably just need a break fromt his game
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #241) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:23 pm

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yeah I don’t love my vote but let’s see what happens it’s probably better than nothing
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #242) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:28 pm

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I can’t wait for osuka’s return to the thread this is going to be kind of hilarious tbh

I think town!him literally has a aneurysm that he is being voted over me

scum!him too probably
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Post Post #1765 (isolation #243) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:36 pm

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In post 1762, osuka wrote:okay holy shit there's 20 pages

catching up
the tldr is that I scum claimed on accident, got run up to L-1, claimed VT at L-2, proceeded to ate for 10 pages, and mena came in like a knight in shining white armor and pocketed all of us to go wagon you instead
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #244) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:40 pm

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I know you were
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #245) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:46 pm

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osuka wrote:
In post 1660, Menalque wrote:Idk I think there is a high concentration of scum in (osuka, plus, kerset, NDmath) atp
this is all wrong

out of all of those only math is maybe scum
I want to agree with this
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #246) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:47 pm

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If scum would just decide to nightkill me that would be amazing

Please

I actually fakeclaimed VT I am a triple shot cop

Not 3 shot

Like triple shot as in I get 3 checks per night
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #247) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:50 pm

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okay

osuka reacted exactly how town!osuka and scum!osuka would’ve reacted

what next?
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #248) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:51 pm

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honestly I don’t even know if I feel like that horrifically bad anymore about what I did there’s been some decent content out of this
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #249) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:02 pm

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In post 1765, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1762, osuka wrote:okay holy shit there's 20 pages

catching up
the tldr is that I scum claimed on accident, got run up to L-1, claimed VT at L-2, proceeded to ate for 10 pages, and mena came in like a knight in shining white armor and pocketed all of us to go wagon you instead
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #250) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:23 pm

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could it really be as simple as bob math saud
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #251) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm

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i bet my iso and reaction is scummy if you undeniably completely unquestioningly believe I am scum hm I wonder
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Post Post #1823 (isolation #252) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:11 pm

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how can this wagon on you be bad then if scum!you and town!you play identically
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #253) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:12 pm

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In post 1819, osuka wrote:
In post 1803, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1799, shellyc wrote:
In post 1796, Andresvmb wrote:I rescind my TR of Shelly.
are you going to scumread everyone that does not share your views
Funny. I have a pool. It used to not include you. Now it does.
omegalul

you can't even make this shit up, this is ridiculous
lol
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #254) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:14 pm

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viewtopic.php?t=83299&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

At the same time here’s a random scumgame of bob

Looks pretty engaged to me

It doesn’t even feel like he’s trying here
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Post Post #1826 (isolation #255) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:14 pm

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pagetop daddy something
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #256) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 1884, teacher wrote:
Spoiler: the total unbelievability of that hammer test
In post 1400, Datisi wrote:
Kerset [5]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, Menalque
Votecount showing wagon members just one page behind hammer test.
In post 1421, innocentvillager wrote:i think this discussion is good and yes my vote is on kerset
IV emphasizing wagon presence (in response to Saud) less than 20 posts before hammer test.
In post 1440, Saudade wrote:VOTE: kerset
Hammer gg
Saudade pretends to be the hammer, despite being the obvious wagon driver. But....
In post 1442, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: Kerset fine
IV won’t let Saud do the test, and instead pretends HE is the hammer (calling out how fake it is)
In post 1450, innocentvillager wrote:guess we just wait for the flip
In post 1451, Saudade wrote:super meta btw anyone posting on twilight is 90% town
In post 1452, Andresvmb wrote:I’m really hoping this flips Scum so the Andre alliance can remain without paranoia!
Oh, just don’t mind us three (and others) casually emphasizing the hammer and twilight in every comment we make because that’s so typical, amirite?
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
In post 1471, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
DON’T
In post 1473, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1471, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
DON’T
don’t what...?
And definitely don’t double check anything because nobody has anything to hide behind all caps DONT. Just keep assuming everybody talks about a lolhammer as if it’s the worlds funniest thing.

In post 1480, Kerset wrote:wow good job you gamethrowed to satisfy saude ego, suck to be you bc you lost doctor by not giving me chance to claim. At least 10 players in mafiascum will learn how valueable independent thought is.
This is not a valid claim in this context.

VOTE: kerset
this is kind of what i was thinking i was curious if anyone was going to bring it up
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #257) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:55 pm

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i was actually thinking: this hammer test looks kind of fake and if kerset tries some ate "i was town idiots" shit i would get really sussed because he pulled that angery react shit in mini 2156 as scum once, where if he reacted "that's not a hammer" it'd be fairly townie

i kind of left that thought floating somewhere and i don't remember why
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #258) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:56 pm

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In post 1896, osuka wrote:let me guess, is it because you got a scum role pm?
yup!

yes, yes, and yes!

god it feels good to say it

you've been calling me scum all game and my conscience can no longer take it. I give in to the mental burden

I am scum

You win, osuka, you win, you've craked me
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Post Post #1909 (isolation #259) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:59 pm

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maybe that was my thought. there's no urgency to test the doc claim
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #260) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:00 pm

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also if there's an actual protective wouldn't they have cc'd by now or something

again sorry i don't know how pr setup spec works/don't actually cc im just wondering
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Post Post #1913 (isolation #261) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 1910, Tayl0r Swift wrote:the fact that youre completely incapable of expressing a thought on your own though, suggests that you dont actually have any, which suggests that youre scum unable to get into the town mindset.
just because i don't have good reasons for scumreads doesn't mean i don't have thoughts of my own, lol, ive stated many of my thoughts plenty of times...
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #262) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 1912, Tayl0r Swift wrote:you just sit and wait for a thought you like to come floating by and latch onto it, retroactively claiming it as your own.
yup wow really insightful and defniitely the only thing ive been doing this whole game
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #263) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:08 pm

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i saw you commenting on it but didn't feel it was urgent to address

now that you're putting your foot down finally and pushing it it feels more notable i guess

actually idk, i think i had some more nuanced thoughts about this before my whole fiasco and that distracted me a lot from kerset tbh so if i don't sound coherent here that's probably why
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #264) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:10 pm

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like taylor and i said i just didn't feel the urgency to talk about it since i feel weird eliminating a d1 doc with no cc when they are a good nk target potentially anyway

but idk if scum are going to kill there anymore bc suspicions so ya
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #265) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:14 pm

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In post 1922, Tayl0r Swift wrote:fake claim
what fake claim??
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #266) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:18 pm

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im fine with being the elim okay whatever honestly i kind of hope i am at this point but i do hope my death can have meaning somehow
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #267) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:19 pm

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just vote me already you're looking for an excuse to do it anyways
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #268) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:19 pm

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VOTE: innocentvillager bye
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #269) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:20 pm

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UNVOTE: innocentvillager what am i doing

i do need a break
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Post Post #1938 (isolation #270) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:21 pm

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im losing it ydrasse
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #271) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:27 pm

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In post 1945, shellyc wrote:I got baited by the hammer

I seriously did think it was hammer tbh
it is more reasonable for us to think it is hammer than kerset himself who was the target of it all
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #272) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:28 pm

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i feel like everything i say at this point is just going to be antitown somehow

not one of my best towngames to say the least
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Post Post #1957 (isolation #273) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:33 pm

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yeah it doesn't help when you keep calling me scum

like what's the point we get it you think im scum
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #274) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:40 pm

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it is also very frustrating that i cannot even defend myself against you despite having an idea of why you think i am scum and that is also very frustrating

but i think this level of confidence with your tunnelling is absolutely ridiculous unwarranted hubris if you are town
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #275) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:41 pm

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if you are scum keep it up you're doing a great fucking job
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #276) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:01 pm

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the omgus is so bad idk if it comes from scum

I feel like scum!kerset reacts better
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #277) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:02 pm

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In post 1962, Kerset wrote:
In post 1884, teacher wrote:
Spoiler: the total unbelievability of that hammer test
In post 1400, Datisi wrote:
Kerset [5]:
Andresvmb, Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, Menalque
Votecount showing wagon members just one page behind hammer test.
In post 1421, innocentvillager wrote:i think this discussion is good and yes my vote is on kerset
IV emphasizing wagon presence (in response to Saud) less than 20 posts before hammer test.
In post 1440, Saudade wrote:VOTE: kerset
Hammer gg
Saudade pretends to be the hammer, despite being the obvious wagon driver. But....
In post 1442, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: Kerset fine
IV won’t let Saud do the test, and instead pretends HE is the hammer (calling out how fake it is)
In post 1450, innocentvillager wrote:guess we just wait for the flip
In post 1451, Saudade wrote:super meta btw anyone posting on twilight is 90% town
In post 1452, Andresvmb wrote:I’m really hoping this flips Scum so the Andre alliance can remain without paranoia!
Oh, just don’t mind us three (and others) casually emphasizing the hammer and twilight in every comment we make because that’s so typical, amirite?
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
In post 1471, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
DON’T
In post 1473, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1471, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1469, Menalque wrote:Wait
DON’T
don’t what...?
And definitely don’t double check anything because nobody has anything to hide behind all caps DONT. Just keep assuming everybody talks about a lolhammer as if it’s the worlds funniest thing.

In post 1480, Kerset wrote:wow good job you gamethrowed to satisfy saude ego, suck to be you bc you lost doctor by not giving me chance to claim. At least 10 players in mafiascum will learn how valueable independent thought is.
This is not a valid claim in this context.

VOTE: kerset
complete bs, it is all that can be said about it
it’s obviously not complete BS but if you insist it is you’re probably town
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #278) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm

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yeah I have no idea who scum is
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #279) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:29 am

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andres is almost certainly town
Ydrasse is probably town
Plus is probably town
mena whiteknighted me too aggressively and aggressively moved to osuka which could be opportunistic but still likely just town

Shelly, Osuka, saud, bob, math, teacher, kerset, Taylor is my main pool
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #280) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:40 am

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I do not believe scum!plus is capable of this much fluid thought back and forth and bouncing around reads confidently with new information and I’m not going to discuss why I believe that
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #281) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:41 am

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also I am banning myself from posting here until Wednesday night (America time) because I really do need a break from this game but I refuse to give up

goodbye
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #282) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:33 am

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hi
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #283) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:34 am

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pagetop for daddy
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #284) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:35 am

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how did we get to 3 digits what the fuck happened

did I not die yet?
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Post Post #2508 (isolation #285) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 am

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i don’t really scumread
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #286) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:00 pm

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i don’t understand what is going on
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Post Post #2572 (isolation #287) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:02 pm

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why is osuka scum
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Post Post #2600 (isolation #288) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:11 pm

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I know someone who forgot their alignment and I have forgotten my role pm
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Post Post #2602 (isolation #289) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:12 pm

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i am probably fine with voting osuka because that slot is just going to deathtunnel me and I don’t TR that slot
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #290) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:13 pm

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but I do not buy obvscumming, this is a deadline urgency vote

VOTE: osuka
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #291) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:14 pm

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In post 2603, Menalque wrote:Also, notice how he’s still trying to shift the goalposts during this — he’s going from talking about how I’m scum who’s fabricating a case on him or whatever to talking about how I can’t read him

Like if I’m scum then obviously I don’t need to read him so why is he concerned with shouting about how unreadable he is and that he’s the ~unparseable man, enigma to all~? It’s bc he’s salty he’s been caught, he thinks it’s unfairly, and so he’s bitching about it by telling me that I can’t read him
I do kind of think this is a good point
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #292) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:17 pm

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mena have you looked at osuka's meta
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #293) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:17 pm

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can you quote again for me where osuka is lying? like literally lying?
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #294) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:19 pm

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what is ellitelling?
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #295) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 2618, Menalque wrote:
In post 2614, innocentvillager wrote:mena have you looked at osuka's meta
No
if i pick give you two random links that are ISOs osuka isos, one town one scum, do you think you can figure out which one is which
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Post Post #2625 (isolation #296) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 2622, Ydrasse wrote:osuka if you are town in your name i'll deathtunnel (1) person of your choice
noooooooooooo pls dont
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #297) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:22 pm

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pagetop for daddy
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Post Post #2639 (isolation #298) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:27 pm

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i don't think we should talk about ellitells and i doubt it's even that indicative or interesting even if it is within the rules

it might be for certain players but it's hard to know, i feel like i have done (prioritized scum game vs prioritized town game) both mostly just depending on the gamestates

and it sounds like both of you are stretching and even if only one of you is stretching it's probably more out of ego than alignment anyway

short answer is i dont care i think
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Post Post #2648 (isolation #299) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:31 pm

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you two realize no one is going to go through this right
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Post Post #2665 (isolation #300) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:01 pm

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I genuinely cannot fathom how some people can scumread someone with so much confidence on so little

I know it clashes with my playstyle but I literally cannot
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #301) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:02 pm

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frankly to me it’s all confbias BS that I would only ever be mildly confident in
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #302) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:05 pm

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In post 2655, Menalque wrote:Also, again, where is the scum if osuka is town and why are they not capitalising on me pushing town? Why are there definitively a number of slots highly reluctant to vote osuka despite me providing what is essentially a shitton of cover for them

Why has there been no opportunistic sniffing around osuka all day when he’s been pushed or suggested as scum?
this isn’t really a case until you start putting names and pools and shit because obviously wagons dissolve and appear on both alignments for different reasons

sure are they slightly more likely to dissolve on scum, probably, but that isn’t a case just a small positive

scum are also fine with this ending in a no elimination, if all wagons are town for example there is no need to rush anything
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Post Post #2676 (isolation #303) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:11 pm

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okay plus so why is that scummy?
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Post Post #2679 (isolation #304) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:19 pm

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is anyone around? I might put a little time rn to figure what the fuck has happened since I scumclaimed

hi shelly
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Post Post #2683 (isolation #305) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:43 pm

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I feel weird about Shelly giving me townpoints for my recent posting and calling it there
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Post Post #2684 (isolation #306) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:44 pm

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it’s more of an objective evaluation of how well I conform to her tells rather than her actually trying to discern my whole alignment, which I feel weird given that she has said many things of me which were scummy
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Post Post #2685 (isolation #307) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:45 pm

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i don’t think I would ever be satisfied if my recent scumread who just did a bunch Fo scummy stuff started posting some towny thoughts lately but it seems like she is and that feels not really solvy to me and more bob-weave-dodge through the thread
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Post Post #2686 (isolation #308) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:47 pm

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VOTE: shellyc

the flip on me is actually absolutely ridiculous
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #309) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:51 pm

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shellyc wrote:VOTE: osuka

like tbh I am convinced my mena's osuka case and after a reread their posting is fluffy and really slimy

and iv's recent posting has +townpoints so there we go
yeah this is almost kind of unbelievable given:
In post 2307, shellyc wrote:taylor's play alludes to kerset's play

osuka is just weirdly TR'ing kerset

and iv slipped why would you cling on to scummate that slipped
In post 2243, shellyc wrote:like I'm fine with osuka but their posting was decent

kerset def scummier than osuka but i don't like "kerset is locktown"
iv slipped
and taylor is still not solving
In post 2241, shellyc wrote:{osuka, kerset, iv, taylor} is my new limpool considering everything
In post 2236, shellyc wrote:i can't really get to iv town with that slip
In post 2195, shellyc wrote:I TR {Plusjoy Saudade ydrasse Andres mena}
lynchpool {kerset NDMath iv taylor}
In post 2153, shellyc wrote:NDMath is scummy and quite apathetic but I will not lim an ascetic claim

also I'll pivot off plusjoy after a second read of their iso and because of the vagueclaim yesterday

tbh plusjoy might be right and I have been really wrong

I want to jump back on iv here

UNVOTE: PlusJOYED
VOTE: IV
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Post Post #2690 (isolation #310) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:59 pm

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i want to think im wrong on you but you say you're townreading me then say im scummy, then say you're not 100% flipping on me (???)

can you explain your stance on me more in depth please
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Post Post #2691 (isolation #311) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 2688, shellyc wrote:I'm also townreading you due to something I won't talk about.
fine we'll call this reason X

your progression on me should still make sense if you don't elaborate on reason X
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Post Post #2693 (isolation #312) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:05 pm

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but i scumslipped

if scum slips and then says something that both town and scum can say but town is somewhat more likely to say, does that bring them back to neutral or something? i don't understand how you think people are just sliders along a spectrum.

anyway im not here to debate how to scumhunt but i do want to see why this settles you
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #313) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 2236, shellyc wrote:i can't really get to iv town with that slip
you said this yourself
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Post Post #2711 (isolation #314) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:37 pm

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yeah im not sure where my reads are at rn
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #315) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:38 pm

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VOTE: osuka will reexamine shelly d2

im fine with this slot gone
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Post Post #2713 (isolation #316) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:41 pm

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{andres}
{plus, ydrasse}
{teacher}
{mena, bob}
{saud}
{shelly, taylor, kerset, osuka, NDMath}

i think im here but like very unstably
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Post Post #2719 (isolation #317) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:48 pm

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because it's not hard for scum!saudade for emulate town!saud tunnel LHF slots like osaka and kerset
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #318) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 2717, Saudade wrote:Why is shelly scum
And yet you vote osuka with her
i don't know about shelly

i got pinged by her one thing but the logical reasoning isn't quite as good as i thought regardless i want to hear her response and then ill reevaluate tomorrow since she's not going today
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #319) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:50 pm

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it's not my favorite list and they're not really scumreads they're like not townreads
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Post Post #2724 (isolation #320) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:52 pm

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In post 2715, Saudade wrote:Why is mena so low too
i get the sense without going through any mena meta that they have a reasonably expansive scumrange
In post 2716, Saudade wrote:Why is plusjoy so high xd
ive kind of gone through this and don't expect to convince anyone because i don't really have like a good towncase... but i still believe it and i have other reasons besides normal ones too
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #321) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:59 pm

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i don't really scumread any of the slots you mentioned

the shelly one i clearly explained reasoning for the ping

i have explained thoughts on plus but i don't expect them to be convincing
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #322) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:00 pm

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In post 2733, Saudade wrote:I am iv, my reason for scumreading saudade and menal is just that they are within their scumrange
i don't scumread either of you wtf
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Post Post #2743 (isolation #323) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:05 pm

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that was like 40 pages ago
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Post Post #2745 (isolation #324) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:06 pm

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there have been some pretty fucking stupid readslists so if you're coming on me for mine just because im unconfident ok lol
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Post Post #2747 (isolation #325) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:07 pm

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im not going to answer this question again
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #326) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:10 pm

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andres

the one at the top of my list

i am pretty confident in that one

i am somewhat confident in plus and ydrasse

teacher is likely town around the claim

the rest all feel bleh
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #327) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:10 pm

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In post 2750, Saudade wrote:if the people at the bottom are not your scumreads then you have no scumreads at all
this is correct

ive kind of been saying this all game
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Post Post #2756 (isolation #328) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:12 pm

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i probably could

my reads are usually (or maybe it's just this game?) a combination of gut and logic with gut being the predominant portion because i don't actually believe the logic by itself

i did give reasonings for plus andres and ydrasse though they're somewhere in my iso and i haven't really reevaluated them much or seen the need to
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Post Post #2758 (isolation #329) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:13 pm

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it takes a lot for me to believe a logical argument because a lot of things are just simply. not. AI.
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #330) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:14 pm

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the only thing you should really take away from this is that I"m bad not that I'm scum but I already know that
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Post Post #2763 (isolation #331) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:15 pm

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In post 2755, teacher wrote:Right, and as I recall you cant give any reasons for plus and ydrasse town other than you dont think they have the range to play this way as scum
that's the core of it yes
this is a much better reason than some of the other ridiculous reasons ive seen
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Post Post #2765 (isolation #332) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:16 pm

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In post 2762, Saudade wrote:you are pretty bad yeah
usually i feel like i have better reads but yeah i do agree unfortunately
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Post Post #2768 (isolation #333) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:18 pm

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In post 2764, Saudade wrote:go do something else I think you've done all you can for town today IV
yeah probably, maybe tomorrow will make more sense

maybe it wont

Newbie 2023/Newbie 2022/Open 788 i think
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #334) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:01 am

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In post 2815, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 2604, innocentvillager wrote:but I do not buy obvscumming, this is a deadline urgency vote

VOTE: osuka
In post 2615, innocentvillager wrote:can you quote again for me where osuka is lying? like literally lying?
this is not a townie sequence of thoughts. can we lynch fucking iv instead of this shitfight thats gone on for like 50 pages at this point and is 90% either TvT or SvS?
lol um it is because I’m town, nice try with no explanation
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #335) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 am

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In post 2822, Saudade wrote:You are doing okay taylorswift dont listen to the bullies
it’s whenever I say: “when I scumslipped” referring you that event as an abbreviation, I don’t want to say like “when people thought I scumslipped” or whatever, there is no need to clarify, everyone knows what we are talking about. although I don’t hate her attacking me for that specifically, it does make sense
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Post Post #2825 (isolation #336) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:03 am

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another pagetop for daddy
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Post Post #2826 (isolation #337) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:04 am

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idk, I might not really have scumreads but I’d much rather have no scumreads than have wrong scumreads so yeah

I think some people if town really need to get their head out of their ass and not just have certain reads because they have to
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Post Post #2827 (isolation #338) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:07 am

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there is so much tunneling and warring going on that it is hard to discern actual alignments from them because both town and scum like to bicker back and respond and defend each other

even if one side is “correct” in their accusations the alignment derivation is still much noisier than people think I believe

I was scumpinged by Shelly’s one read but upon rethinking I don’t think it’s actually that scumpingy, just some plausible gaps in the thought process that probably were not explicitly posted which is whatever, overall the slot has given a townish vibe
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Post Post #2828 (isolation #339) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:43 am

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if I were town!osuka knowing what I know I would definitely have doubts about scum!IV at this point I think
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Post Post #2853 (isolation #340) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:28 am

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VOTE: innocentvillager

no one likes my reads, Im getting deathtunneled for whatever fucking reason, if osuka flips green tomorrow I’m completely screwed d2, I don’t even think this is that antitown

osuka if you are town nice job
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Post Post #2854 (isolation #341) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:29 am

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i kind of just don’t want to bother with d2 at this point, I’m sorry guys
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #342) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:33 am

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this is me reducing the number of games I am playing in
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #343) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:37 am

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i have never felt like I have little to no town equity in a game but there is a first for everything

I am a vanilla townie and I do not have confident reads

I’m just gonna get deathtunneled all game and I don’t want to claw my way to survival, it’s just not worth it for myself or town

I’m not even like very emotional right now, I just genuinely believe this is my current spot in the gamestate and getting me today is not that bad for town
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Post Post #2866 (isolation #344) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:39 am

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well I don’t have a few semi confident TRs but I have townleaned everyone at some point in this game so yeah. I do better in environments with reasonable number of strong townreads and this has just not been one of them

I do sincerely wish town good luck going forward
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Post Post #2867 (isolation #345) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:40 am

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*well I do
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Post Post #2869 (isolation #346) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:41 am

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maybe people who are deathtunneling me will actually start playing the game tomorrow and reevaluate
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Post Post #2870 (isolation #347) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:42 am

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fwiw I’m not blaming anyone else for my incompetence this game I am very aware of that I’d like to believe.
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Post Post #2872 (isolation #348) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:43 am

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I have never done this as town or scum so if you are trying to figure out if it comes from town! Or scum! Innocentvillager good luck with that.
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Post Post #2874 (isolation #349) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am

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what I do suggest is for everyone to take a look at their reads and actually decide if it is worth being so confident there, especially scumreads

Like why it cannot come from town!X, etc. there is too much tunneling confbiasing this game and I am not for it nor do I believe it’s productive
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Post Post #2877 (isolation #350) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am

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In post 2873, osuka wrote:
In post 2853, innocentvillager wrote:osuka if you are town nice job
This is scum that has given up

Not sure how else you could possibly interpret this
it is literal sarcasm

....why would scum!me move my vote off you onto myself when you are literally 2 votes from getting elimd
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Post Post #2882 (isolation #351) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:47 am

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In post 2828, innocentvillager wrote:if I were town!osuka knowing what I know I would definitely have doubts about scum!IV at this point I think
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #352) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am

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I have been away from this game for 2 days

I came back and came to the same conclusion

I am not heated right now

This is my belief in what is best for me and town
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Post Post #2887 (isolation #353) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 am

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I also kind of just want to know who is scum at this point and get spoilered

like scum is literally never going to kill me so I’m either going to survive to LYLO (almost impossible) or just get eliminated by town earlier

I’d much rather just give you guys something to work with after I flip NOW rather than later
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #354) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:57 am

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I’m trying to think of whether I would do this as scum or not and actually answer I think is maybe

So I wouldn’t even fault any of you for hopping on my wagon at this point, I do believe my AtE at this point has been kind of NAI

And yes I am very aware I am AtEing here but it’s not for a specific objective it’s literally just AtE for its sake
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Post Post #2892 (isolation #355) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:00 am

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yeah if osuka dies today and is green I will probably just self vote unless I get a revelation overnight

If he flips red I will try I promise
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Post Post #2893 (isolation #356) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:01 am

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it’s not like I didn’t try yesterday, I did spend like 1-2 hours rereading stuff
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Post Post #2895 (isolation #357) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:02 am

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I feel like this is one of those spots where if I flip green it will be incredibly easy to hindsight bias paint me as town and if I flip red it will also be incredibly hindsight bias obvious that I was red

so yeah bias is a thing guys not everything is scummy just because you think they’re scum, you can come up with a reason to interpret anything either way
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Post Post #2914 (isolation #358) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:11 am

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Can you explain why osuka is town again
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Post Post #2915 (isolation #359) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:11 am

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or quote a past explanation
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #360) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:14 am

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In post 2908, Andresvmb wrote:Menalque is literally a 50/50
mena is 50-50 to be town? sign me up for mena wagon!
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Post Post #2917 (isolation #361) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:15 am

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In post 2899, Andresvmb wrote:I don’t understand why Bob is being so passive. To be honest, I have one read I trust, and I think everybody else could potentially be Scum. And I generally find myself in games TR’ing too many people, and not what’s happening here.
I do feel this :3
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Post Post #2918 (isolation #362) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:16 am

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In post 2898, Andresvmb wrote:The thing is, I don’t think it’s very likely this game that all of Menalque, IV and Osuka are Town. I don’t. But there’s something off about the way Menalque is pushing for Osuka, and frankly I think there’s something off about the way Osuka is pushing IV. And the more I read plusJOYED, the more I think they’re kind of informed about alignments and enjoying throwing darts from the sideline.
what does “off” mean and who does that make you suspect?
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Post Post #2920 (isolation #363) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:21 am

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oh

I think I know why

And I think town!osuka reads us the same way as scum!osuka so if you are thinking this is all possible for town!osuka I believe it also possible for scum!osuka

I had this thought at one point too, I suggest you reconsider the chance of scum!osuka

If we’re not thinking about the same thing nvm then
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Post Post #2921 (isolation #364) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 am

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I think one thing that is worth rereading is the whole role stopper fiasco. If teacher is telling truth about rolestop per there could be reactions to read into tntere
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Post Post #2922 (isolation #365) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:29 am

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specifically; mafia almost certainly know of the existence of a rolestopper and how it works. It is pretty difficult to fake that in thread about confusing it with a role blocker.

The fact that so many people seemed to confuse it is either an indication they are town or the teacher is lying and there is no rolestopper

And I do tend to believe that teacher genuinely mixed up rolestopper and roleblocker and Actually I think both narratives make sense but the town one more so. As scum he probably would’ve just said it was a roleblocker, so the wrong role means I tend to believe teacher.

Which points to people confusing the fiasco as town, but not necessarily those informed of the difference as scum (eg osuka)
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Post Post #2923 (isolation #366) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:30 am

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I believe saud is town because I believe town him truly plays like this, my main concern is just how well can scum saud emulate here

So I like andres plus ydrasse teacher saud for town

I think it is very possible kerset is the scum rolestopper
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Post Post #2924 (isolation #367) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:33 am

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I have mixed thoughts on mena, the white knighting of me was a little over the top for scum and the vibe has been towny. There’s not a great scum!motivation to step in and WK me like that since it doesn’t really look that good for scum. At the same time it is a bit TMI-like but I believe as either alignment she believes town!her believes iv is town. So I think that this slot leans town
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Post Post #2926 (isolation #368) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:36 am

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{shelly, taylor, kerset, osuka, NDMath}

I still think my previous lim pool is what I want for now

I simply do not get agenda vibes from bob whatsoever, the play lately has all been surface level scummy but he has some good progressions that truly look like he is trying to solve and reevaluate his reads. There is one progression that is quite townie, I can’t remember but id is questioning the wagons and how they point to me as scum, but then he reaches a different conclusion(teacher(
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Post Post #2934 (isolation #369) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:55 am

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if teacher mixed up RB and RS I think he is town

If not, he is scum obviously

but scum!him probably didn’t mix it up because he would’ve just said roleblocker

Unless thsi was all deliberately planned. It is too specific but I think it would either need to be planned by scum!kerset or by scum!osuka. I won’t go into detail about scum!osuka but I believe it is in scum!kersets range to orchestrate something like this but not teacher.

This is just a small conspiracy theory that I don’t think is likely. But it did somewhat come at a slightly opportunistic timing iirc, which has to make me slightly suspicious

Otherwise, I do not see how teacher is scum from all this
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Post Post #2935 (isolation #370) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:56 am

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*but not teacher alone without one of the other two because it’s so specific
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Post Post #2936 (isolation #371) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:05 am

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@kerset can you explain why you thought teachers “hammer was unbelieveable” case was complete BS? I found it a pretty reasonable argument, especially given you are the one being “hammered”

If you said already, you can quote it
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Post Post #2956 (isolation #372) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:14 am

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PlusJOYED wrote:agree with rest, but not true for iv. By killing him here, even if he flips town, it'll clear up so much
exactly what the fuck would it clear? i know I’m town and I believe you’re town but I don’t have any clear idea of what’s going on
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Post Post #2957 (isolation #373) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:15 am

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sorry I didn’t mean that in an insulting way, I do use profanity a fair amount but if I do it’s never meant to be insulting
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Post Post #2958 (isolation #374) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 2953, bob3141 wrote:At the moment I hate all the main lynches :-(


I think osuka vs menal is town v town.
I feel players are making many associations based on village. A village lynch at the moment im feeling would be no more than damage limitation. A slot that has some chance to flip scum and isnt going to end up with miskill of a town pr or outing of one.
kersets a claimed doc.
yeah kind of seems like I’m the obvious choice when you say it like that huh?
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #375) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am

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bob, have you seen scum!osuka? Or only town!osuka?
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Post Post #2960 (isolation #376) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am

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I did a brief metadive on osuka and tried to find a scum game... all were from like 2018 and he was completely different there

But he was also kind of different in his old town games too
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Post Post #2963 (isolation #377) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

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yeah I somewhat believe bob is town, I have yet to look at more meta but the scum!bob posting from one random game really does seem more engaged and more stiff, i’d rather eliminate me than bob
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Post Post #2964 (isolation #378) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:22 am

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plus how I am playing surface level...?
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Post Post #2965 (isolation #379) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:24 am

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you really think being lost is a scum indicator??? this is confbias at its finest
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Post Post #2967 (isolation #380) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 am

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right, I feel that, so how do you know that is not how scum!osuka responds too

he certainly had a bite to him in some of his scum games too
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Post Post #2971 (isolation #381) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:35 am

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Being able to find scum in one game does not necessarily mean you are able to in another

frequently I get a big head after a game I played well/nailed scum/right on all my townreads

then later I have another shit game where I massively fail a read or I just have no fucking idea

a lot of it is simply luck despite what we would like to believe :P
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Post Post #2976 (isolation #382) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:05 am

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bob, do you still feel strongly on teacher? can you explain the scum!teacher narrative for how the informed of rolestopper claim played? Do you think the entire is likely to be faked? Do you think he genuinely mixed up rolestopper with roleblocker?
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Post Post #2978 (isolation #383) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:12 am

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wait, so you think he did mix the two up? But why doesn’t scum!teacher say he was informed about a scum!roleblocker which is what he had in mind when he actually said rolestopper?
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Post Post #2995 (isolation #384) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 2986, osuka wrote:having moderated normal games in the past, it's sort of my job to know the fucking difference between a rolestopper and a roleblocker
I understand I said you pointing it out wasn’t scum!indicative for you
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Post Post #2996 (isolation #385) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:31 am

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um I just don’t
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Post Post #2997 (isolation #386) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:32 am

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In post 2981, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2978, innocentvillager wrote:wait, so you think he did mix the two up? But why doesn’t scum!teacher say he was informed about a scum!roleblocker which is what he had in mind when he actually said rolestopper?
Looking in his past scum pt


Last scum game his team had a rolestopper. So doubt he wouldnt know the difference


looking at his scum games he set up fake crumbs early. And claims to play scum as if he doesnt know his alignment
if this is true?? then teacher is just scum right
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Post Post #3004 (isolation #387) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:42 am

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In post 2998, Menalque wrote:Also like I find you positioning me in null really weird especially given how a lot of people have been drawing connective lines to us, especially as it’s felt like you’ve been working with me as you would s fairly strong TR when we’ve been talking throughout the day
why is it scummy that I am not hard townreading you? I don’t understand
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Post Post #3006 (isolation #388) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:44 am

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oh I see nvm

um, you are being surface level pro town/helpful and I definitely have townleaned you all game so yeah I’m willing to work with you given that I didn’t have any scumreads very strong
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Post Post #3007 (isolation #389) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:44 am

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well okay I agree with both of those
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Post Post #3008 (isolation #390) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:45 am

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In post 2997, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2981, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2978, innocentvillager wrote:wait, so you think he did mix the two up? But why doesn’t scum!teacher say he was informed about a scum!roleblocker which is what he had in mind when he actually said rolestopper?
Looking in his past scum pt


Last scum game his team had a rolestopper. So doubt he wouldnt know the difference


looking at his scum games he set up fake crumbs early. And claims to play scum as if he doesnt know his alignment
if this is true?? then teacher is just scum right
can we go back to this??
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Post Post #3011 (isolation #391) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:50 am

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actually you might just be town, what the fuck kind of paranoia conspiracy is that lol
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Post Post #3013 (isolation #392) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:53 am

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you mightve be null in ranking but I always townleaned you

I probably townread you at some point but I have to calibrate and revisit how confident I am on these things periodically
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Post Post #3014 (isolation #393) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:54 am

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In post 2981, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2978, innocentvillager wrote:wait, so you think he did mix the two up? But why doesn’t scum!teacher say he was informed about a scum!roleblocker which is what he had in mind when he actually said rolestopper?
Looking in his past scum pt


Last scum game his team had a rolestopper. So doubt he wouldnt know the difference


looking at his scum games he set up fake crumbs early. And claims to play scum as if he doesnt know his alignment
@bob can you link the game please?
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Post Post #3019 (isolation #394) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:08 am

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I kinda just got the obvtown vibe especially around my scumslip and post that

the moment of eureka on realizing the scumslip, (the high when you feel you’ve caught scum) the forced defense, the confidence, then it all came crashing down when you made a few points and he reversed everything, and his reaction of annoyance when he started to believe he wasn’t correct. It all reads very genuine and effortless
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Post Post #3021 (isolation #395) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:10 am

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why can’t teacher be scum and osuka town menal? I don’t understand d
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Post Post #3022 (isolation #396) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:11 am

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wtf bob are you just straight lying?
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Post Post #3023 (isolation #397) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:12 am

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I like your argument for teacher/osuka are probably not partners though
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Post Post #3028 (isolation #398) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:18 am

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I have read this more than a couple times and I still do not understand sorry

what exactly did teacher do? He pointed out the elli tell you were trying to push for scum!osuka was a bad argument, and you think he would’ve brought it up tomorrow instead?
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Post Post #3107 (isolation #399) » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:10 pm

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