Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.35

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

osuka [4]:

Ydrasse, shellyc, Saudade, Andresvmb

innocentvillager [4]:

Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka, innocentvillager

bob3141 [2]:

NDMath, teacher

teacher [2]:

Kerset, bob3141

Not Voting [1]:

Menalque

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[Menalque]

I’m having doubts about Andres

I don’t like his positioning around the osuka wagon and specifically his very tentative moves around it being likely SvT but also staying off it until relatively late and compromising on

[Menalque]

Like in particular it twigs me that he’s saying that when I now don’t think the case on osuka is nearly as strong as I did, and it fits very much into the pattern of someone coming on late to support the thing while encouraging the idea that I take the lion’s share of responsibility

Which isn’t wrong, idk it’s hard to put my finger on, but it’s like troublesome that he’s coming on late and suggesting that it’s comparatively unlikely to be SvT because my aggression was too strong or whatever

[innocentvillager]

I have read this more than a couple times and I still do not understand sorry

what exactly did teacher do? He pointed out the elli tell you were trying to push for scum!osuka was a bad argument, and you think he would’ve brought it up tomorrow instead?

[teacher]

Andres is town. Come get Bob who is now just straight lying about my own past games.

[teacher]

Also Im in my debate team meetings so only giving this like 5% attention currently.

[Menalque]

To be clear, I’m not interested in doing Andres today and I can’t see that happening but if I die tonight I’d suggest looking more closely there tomorrow

Although I think that’s unlikely unless we do flip osuka and he’s scum after all, but in that case Andres is v prob town too

[Menalque]

Andres is town. Come get Bob who is now just straight lying about my own past games.

Why is Andres town? I’ll reread bob now

[Menalque]

I have read this more than a couple times and I still do not understand sorry

what exactly did teacher do? He pointed out the elli tell you were trying to push for scum!osuka was a bad argument, and you think he would’ve brought it up tomorrow instead?

>be scum!teacher
>see town!mena pushing town!osuka very hard on a bad premise
>decide to check town!osuka’s posting
>realise that the ellitell is weak due to the posting that osuka was doing elsewhere on site at times when he wasn’t here being incredibly minimal or in-like with the patterns of a working day
>decide that the best option is to bring that to the attention of (1) mena, who can then recalibrate and (2) to the rest of the thread, who may recalibrate and decide not to give you a free misguillo and a target to push tomorrow for having hard pushed the misguillo

[Menalque]

^^thats not a thought process that I think makes sense for scum!teacher to go through if we assume he’s pursuing his wincon

[teacher]

Completely logical trajectories to me. Consistent solving approach. Just not seeing purposeful avoidment of any topics or people. I just grok where his posts are coming from almost any time he posts, and I cant make up a scum narrative for it. I kinda like the miller claim, especially after an ascetic, but thats pretty minor at this point -- I liked it more that he didnt push the ascetic after the claim which reduces scum motivation for it.

[Menalque]

@teacher okay why does scum!bob choose to tell an easily verifiable lie to push you tho, when there’s a juicy wagon available on osuka or IV? Who I don’t think are scum together fwiw

[PlusJOYED]

Because if teacher is scum and osuka is town and scum!teacher realised that the ellitell logic for osuka!scum isn’t great but he sees that I’ve pushed that wagon to the brink of flipping, there’s no way he calls attention to it for the towncred instead of using it to completely discredit me tomorrow and either sideline me or directly push for my flip

Hmmmm I can see that actually. Maybe I was wrong on teacher, I can't rememberwhy I SRd him. I'll reread after d1 ends but he's not my prefered d1 elim by any means while iv is walking free

[Menalque]

Completely logical trajectories to me. Consistent solving approach. Just not seeing purposeful avoidment of any topics or people. I just grok where his posts are coming from almost any time he posts, and I cant make up a scum narrative for it. I kinda like the miller claim, especially after an ascetic, but thats pretty minor at this point -- I liked it more that he didnt push the ascetic after the claim which reduces scum motivation for it.

Ehhh i need to reread the bit around the “scumslip” from IV because that seemed weird to me at the time, although I did like how he responded

Idk if bob!scum then who else fits with him? I would have said ND but I don’t think he just voteparks him there? So like I could see Taylor but I could also see Taylor + Andres which is scaring me as they both encouraged the treating of the scumslip as serious

If IV!scum then frankly idek where I need to be looking beyond I think my townreads are probably broadly wrong

[Menalque]

Datisi did u mess up and leave my name in mod colour for a second

[Menalque]

Saudade do you scumread osuka of are you voting there because I asked you to?

[Menalque]

I kinda just wanna sheep daddy saudade

[Datisi]

Datisi did u mess up and leave my name in mod colour for a second

shhh don't call out my dumbass mod errors like that

[Menalque]

Datisi did u mess up and leave my name in mod colour for a second

shhh don't call out my dumbass mod errors like that

Whoopsie

[PlusJOYED]

i'd like us to elim iv or osuka. I TR osuka but it'll at least make town realize iv scum i think and we're running out of time

[teacher]

I agree not scum together. I dont know reason - havent reflected at all on what happened since started skimming
p-p-p-pedit: @3036)

[teacher]

I dont like associative hunting but bob-kerset-(deepwolf)?

[teacher]

tbh Mena, I can see bob with you but Im assuming youre town for purposes of this dialog.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: plusJOYED

Okay, I am going to go back to voting where my instincts have been pointing to most of today.

[Andresvmb]

Like in particular it twigs me that he’s saying that when I now don’t think the case on osuka is nearly as strong as I did, and it fits very much into the pattern of someone coming on late to support the thing while encouraging the idea that I take the lion’s share of responsibility

Which isn’t wrong, idk it’s hard to put my finger on, but it’s like troublesome that he’s coming on late and suggesting that it’s comparatively unlikely to be SvT because my aggression was too strong or whatever

Honestly, I feel like cursing at you, but I won’t do it.