Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

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VOTE: S_S

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In another dimension maybe.
@S_S get out of your scum Pt and say hello.

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I just did. *smug*

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Hello you two.
And you two.
And another two.

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I remember being really curious what you were like as a player after Dystopia, should be fun! Hopefully this one goes better+I don't drive myself to such obsessive lengths again

...Then again, this would be the game to do it

I also completely forgot I played Midsummer RIP

Was it town obsessive or scum obsessive?

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Bed time. Don’t have too much fun without me.

@prism: I get that. I just had a difficult game as well finish.

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I still don't know how to dance
VOTE: S_S

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How do you pronounce ffery?

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Why does ferry and fairy sound the same.

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NS does not tunnel.
So his partner is the tunnel and he is the secret.
It’s an open one.

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You're the first person I've seen with >30 posts per day.

I use notes PT’s sometimes so it’s actually more than that.
I have too much free time while job hunting.
And I mostly phone post and my posts are on the shorter side.

On a scale of 1 and 10 how close is your role pm to 550 THz?

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This might be the first time I've played with hydra let alone multiple. Not sure how that will affect making reads?

pedit: what is THz?

Temporal frequency.

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Have I made it to elo since I got back?

Nope.

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You need more drugs.

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The trick I think for me to make it into elo is to replace into a slot already in elo.

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UNVOTE:

Actually, maybe you need less drugs.

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Actually, maybe you need less drugs.

What does this mean? Reconsidering early scumread on him.

I don’t understand what you were scum reading them for in the first place.

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I don’t understand what you were scum reading them for in the first place.

Opening couple posts I didn't like. Too all over the place. Recent two have been better.

You’re town.

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The answer to my question was 10.

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Don’t worry. I obv town when town and if anyone metas me they will have a complete play book to town bell.

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I’m still on edge from my last game.
I should smoke some weed.
But lung cancer and it smells bad.
Why can’t good things smell good.

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I’m here for you.
What you do is.
You take your town reads
And you take your scum reads.
And you divide by 2. That’s the scum team.

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Rocket surgery a new field of science just waiting to be explored.

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Is your third hydra head an honorary hydra? With an Italian suit and bowler hat?

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We actually have third secret person in our hydra but y'all will never figure them out

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I don’t have a read. I’m trying to get one.

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Is your third hydra head an honorary hydra? With an Italian suit and bowler hat?

What's with this then...

I noticed a tonal shift when they were replying to PlusJOYED about hydra reading, but I'm not sure whether that's because it was a different head. Sign posts plz

I’m a bit lost and i’m one of them poke around types.

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I’m a bit lost and i’m one of them poke around types.

I'm not sure what you were intending to get by asking that question.

It’s about the trip not the destination.

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I am tentatively liking morph the cat.

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One of those is not like the others.

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It took me a second, but I remember reading a post like that in a game I skimmed.
It’s not_mafia.

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Who ironically, may actually be mafia.

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I do have to admit that NS town is just scummy to me though. I’ll just be careful.
hi Bulge, I look forward to playing with you this game!

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VOTE: PlusJoyed

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I have my reasons to believe plus joyed had read the thread in its entirety before making those two posts.

Is it really surprising that a newer player read the six-page thread full of experienced players who are familiar with each other and couldn't come up with anything?

Huh, Isis was right when she said you’re good at making sure the town doesn’t eat itself.
I wonder if that means you’re town here.

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I am a hyperactive town puppy.
Checks out.

And tbh, plus joyed was too in the last game I played with him too.
Very, very much so.

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On the other hand, game burden. Is different.

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Statistically significant.

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Um.

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Hahahahahahahahahaba

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wrong game sorry

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No, I know it’s impolite but IAI is clearly meant to be here.
Pretending otherwise is just a mistake that will result in having a harder time reading him.

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I’m guessing that’s a rule? I wonder why.

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Secret tunnel didn’t even last to pregame.
*snicker*
Sorry, I don’t mean to be mean.

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Midway.
Bell.
cat.

Ten more to sort I guess.

VOTE: plusjoyed

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I want to believe that notsci is more likely to hydra with a Not_Mafia impersonator than with Not_Mafia himself.

Though I guess hydraing with Not_Mafia isn't really bad, it's just like playing normal but being a compulsive hammerer.

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We are with you in spirit

You might actually be a spirit D2 if you keep this up buddy.

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first

This was my plan if I got busy suddenly and it was page 4.

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Why did you think anyone would think they might be related? Feels overexplainy.

-innocentvillager

That post was my equivalent of handing out the invite to bell. Sorry you are jealous of my shiny invites, but you can't have one!

Make good choices. So far, so good.

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I’m pretty confused why people are having a hard time reading morph and complaining about hydras. When it’s not that they’re a hydra that’s a problem.
It’s you.

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At the bare minimum both of them are aggro and doing their towny best to sort the player list.

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It’s literally right below their avatar.

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I am mildly amused.

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May I introduce myself to those who may not have their eyes able to see in such a sky, my name is Emperor Flavor Leaf, some may call me the Boonienator, aka Boonskiies, also known as I just made that up on the spot.

I am baiting scum to come at me right now, and I have a high force people to react style and a proven track record of catching scum.

Town will also likely come at me, but that’s the analysis part

Best of luck to you. But don’t fos at the IC. I will scum read you for that and accidentally miseliminate you the more obvious it becomes.

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It’s precisely because they’re late that I find it funny. As either alignment, really.

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Give me a game where you talked the most in the player list with pure concentrated solve.

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Cool.
Now start solving and maybe i’ll Town read you too.

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Is it that you’re an alt, you play offsite or

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This is going to be a 100 page d1 isn’t it

Nah, morph is dying N1.

40-70 pages prolly.

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I don’t really know what to say to that.
If you’re good enough you probably can steam roll the scum team day 1, day 2 and I guess day 3.

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I don’t really know what to say to that.
If you’re good enough you probably can steam roll the scum team day 1, day 2 and I guess day 3.

Nah, one of those will probably be a town read.

And you guys aren’t gonna wanna listen to me, so I have to figure that side of things out.

People like to push surface level reads because that’s what’s in front of them; I like to read gamestate and why said players are being pushed.

So who is your top scum read?

Yes, it turns out that town don’t know who the scum are and they often make mistakes. Does that mean town fan’t Destroy the scum team? It just means it’s unlikely. Also, I feel a little weird where you’re talking like half the people here can’t read nuance or subtlety.

If you say the right words in the right way I will listen to you. Same as anyone else.

Rn? Probably +J, tunnel. But they’re basically null reads rn.

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I continue my fine tradition of being unable to read the bulge.

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Sure. Share away.

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What are you screwing

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Oh, you’re flavorleaf. Hi.
Morph’s still town though. I’m sure you too will see that in a couple hundred posts or so.
Nice try.

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Oh, you’re flavorleaf. Hi.
Morph’s still town though. I’m sure you too will see that in a couple hundred posts or so.
Nice try.

I said I don’t quite thing all 3 of you are town. I think 2 of you are, unsure which.

If you guys are all 3 town, that will be discovered later.

If all 3 of you are town, and Something is town, I believe this game’s going to be hard for scum.

Sure. Midwaybear could be scum.

@plusjoyed, he’s trying to get a feel for the player list. But he probably does that as either alignment.

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We win. That’s what happens next.

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And S_S version three is here.
Neat.

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I’ve played with you twice. You were different versions of yourself.
Now there’s a third version.

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Sorry, i’m always excited to get to know people better.
Don’t mind me.

Where’s alisae?

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I would love nothing more than to have this be anon dancegame again, and everyone talking is ubertown.

But that's a little too wishful on the thinking scale.

@bell who is your second most confident read on right now?

Good Q. I don’t have any real confidence anywhere else, yet.
I’m waiting and thinking.

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Are you sure joyed is town.

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Can everyone slow down and tell me what they think.

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Can everyone slow down and tell me what they think.

about my slot or in general?

In general. The signal to noise ratio is starting to hit me and I don’t want to fall behind.

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Strongest town read

Town pings and why.

Any scum reads? Why?

Go.

1. Morph.
2. Maybe S_S he’s different. He’s coming off as honest in his last biggish post. midwaybear initial post. After that back slide.
3. Nope.

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Update:
Scum read: midwaybear.

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I would like it to be noted that the dynamic between PlusJoyed and Bell is weird.

From my side.
We’ve played together. I have mixed feelings about getting town read early by people i’ve played with before.
I stood aside and let him get miseliminated in our last game and my impression of him is sort a mix of enthusiasm and slightly off the wall play . Since he only recently came to this site I think he’s adjusting to site meta and he was only in one game. So in that game he was a bit stir crazy. Because of rapid adjustment i’m trying to take it slow.

In short, i’m trying to figure out how best to approach and get a solid read on him. I could poke at him wrong and trigger an avalanche on his town head if i’m not careful. Or it could result in him being correctly eliminated.

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is there a conclusion to that thought Maria?

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Good to see you once more, lady the first.

Would you like to renew your hemlock society membership?

I would love too!

is there a conclusion to that thought Maria?

It's that I think if you look at your overall iso this sticks out in a very odd manner that comes from scum more likely than town.

Do you have data to back that up or

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Good to see you once more, lady the first.

Would you like to renew your hemlock society membership?

I would love too!

is there a conclusion to that thought Maria?

It's that I think if you look at your overall iso this sticks out in a very odd manner that comes from scum more likely than town.

Do you have data to back that up or

My data is the game we're in right now.

To be fair, according to one study scum post less but have longer posts.
The problem with this is that i’m Also posting a lot and have a lot of short posts too.

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Yes. I’m mostly mentioning that because i’m An omgusy player at heart and trying to see from your perspective who seems to be working with pattern recognition what you might be thinking.
And that lines up pretty good. But not amazing.

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VOTE: zmuffinman
*hugs*

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@midwaybear. Whenever I say what i’m actually thinking and someone suspects me for it, my initial reaction is to omgus. But I know that initial feelings are just a signal for my attention.

Is what Maria saying make sense from a town perspective?
Pretty much, yes. But it doesn’t mean she’s town, it just means she doesn’t suck.

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Bell, should I just give up or?

@Mods I'm currently voting Alisae

About asking me why i town read them?
Probably. I’ll answer if they get run up. They’ll likely die long before then tho

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Yes. I’m mostly mentioning that because i’m An omgusy player at heart and trying to see from your perspective who seems to be working with pattern recognition what you might be thinking.
And that lines up pretty good. But not amazing.

To be an omgus style player you have to be pretty confident in your own styles of being able to town tell, otherwise such a playstyle doesn't really work. Do you think you've reached that point of obvious town yet?

In this game no.
In general, maybe.

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I’m one of those meta+data+ personal tells+ interacty. types.

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I don’t know what you were expecting when you joined this player list. It sounded like you had expectations. But I don’t know how many worlds there are in which your expectations involved a low post count game with this player list.
Not very many of them.

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Is it better to be rejected or ignored.
Or is that the same thing.

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Can we get more votes on muffin. I’m pretty sure that will help me figure out if he’s good at being scum or if this is going to be eaay

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Define forced.

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I simultaneously am debating if there’s scum between morph and muffin or if I don’t like the people pushing that more

Secret fence sitter.

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Correct I do know that
But why mislead me with a secret tunnel if neither of you are gunna tunnel.

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Because I haven’t set the avatar For our avatar reference

Two lovers, forbidden from one another
A war divides their people
And a mountain divides them apart
Built a path to be together

Aww. That’s awesome.

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he’s good at being scum

He is good at playing both alignments. That's not really the question you need to ask yourself, assume he is.

So he’s good as either alignment and he’s scum reading you because....?

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The forced angle is forced.

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VOTE: Bell

I don't like the flip on Midwaybear for not playing ball
I don't like the engagement on muffin wrt morph/muffin comvo. I feel like if muffin weren't attacking morph that vote wouldn't be there

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Okay. You don’t like it.
Walk me through why you don’t like it.

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If i’m Scum or town morph is still town because I would be town reading him/her either way.

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@pedit: if at me.
If I know he’s town I would be town reading him to get out of their way and nk them.
If I think he’s town I would town reading them because they’re probably town.

1. He doesn’t I think? I just think the forced angle is forced.
2. Reasons~

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Outside of those reasons. I don’t see the reason he would refuse a basic repackaging of scum/town reads as town. He should be fairly interested in what other people have to say if he’s town yeah? So why refuse?

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If I know he’s town I would be town reading him to get out of their way and nk them.
If I think he’s town I would town reading them because they’re probably town.

yeah if you're town then you read them to your best ability i'm not disputing that; and again this is really more about someone being scum for attacking the person you're townreading
Although you've completely like not even mentioned the possibility of you being S-S with them which i already thought was unlikely and now even moreso

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I’m a little shocked muffin just stated the exact reason i’m Town reading them. But has interpreted all of their posts as them having rolled scum.

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To me they don’t seem unhappy at all
And i’m Not picking up on that at all.
And if one of them was going to hate their existence as scum it would be ff.
And all the Cabd posts are the ones that pinged him.

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If I know he’s town I would be town reading him to get out of their way and nk them.
If I think he’s town I would town reading them because they’re probably town.

yeah if you're town then you read them to your best ability i'm not disputing that; and again this is really more about someone being scum for attacking the person you're townreading
Although you've completely like not even mentioned the possibility of you being S-S with them which i already thought was unlikely and now even moreso

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I can’t be concerned with scum teams that don’t exist.
I mean, given how i’m interacting With morph you’re saying water is wet here.

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It is actually because I have played with him once that i’m Not voting him yet.
My default read on him as town is probably scum. But I haven’t interacted with scum IAI or NS yet so I don’t know what they might look like either.
IAI is easier for me to read. But i’m not seeing much yet. IAI mentioned he’s a fence sitter but last game he absolutely was not like that at all.

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To put it plainly, I wasn’t reversing my read on him because he didn’t do what I said. It was because I interpreted it as disinterest.

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Not really, i’m Just back sliding on him back to null, if that makes sense.
Back the backslide is real~

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i apparently thought 252 and 255 were pretty good posts

and i apparently thought 254 and 256 in response were pretty awful

you might even say... forced?

Are you reading my posts or should I leave you alone while you’re doing this.

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@b, what you are waiting for?

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i'm reading your posts, i just don't really care about your read on me lol

No, not my posts about you. My posts about morph in relation to your posts about morph.

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Bork I think I play a different variant now candidly. Had to play games without my safety net

But I’ll talk less and show more

This sounds promising.
But why did you say you were fence ditty when you weren’t last game and were throwing out strongish town reads around like candy?

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oh and bell's read change on midwaybear.

not happy about that either.

Is that ff or Cabd?

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@b, what you are waiting for?

I guess this is what you were waiting for?

@ff. Oh. Carry on then.

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That’s my meta shift bell

You saw how I was re bulge?

There’s 4/5 slots this game that I feel similarly on. It’s easier when I’m less familiar with people

Yeah, but why would you try to jerk me toward that recollection if that recollection is no longer accurate/wasn’t accurate last game?

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No, not my posts about you. My posts about morph in relation to your posts about morph.

i don't know what you're specifically referring to but i also probably don't care about it

not trying to offend you or anything, i just don't really put much stock in anything i've seen you write so far about them

though you're free to town case them if you want, just don't expect me to address it

if they happen to be town, i'll (probably) figure it out eventually

maybe

Huh. Well, I was just trying to engage you and see how immersed you were in your hunting/subject.
No offense taken.

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@bell out of curiosity, did you see my readlist you asked me to make? what grade did i get on my homework?
Also Mari seems a little sus by refusing to read the 20 pages. That's something I would do as scum and didn't care as much about solving

Yes. I forgot to thank you. Maybe, reaching a bit too much. We’ll know how accurate your initial reads We’re as the game goes on. But you get an A for doing precisely what I asked you to. But that seems kinda normal for you. Bear with me while I try to figure you out.

I made a post about you and how i’m trying to approach you earlier.

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As to off base, it's more just wanting to argue this out with zmuffin without players taking sides midway through.

I get that and am largely staying out of it for the moment

-b

I will back off and let you two hash it out.
In regards to muffin and FF.

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As for mari, i don’t know joy.
I’m not sure of her specific reasons for town reading April and I, while avoiding giving morph a town read.
She came in and poked me for something she suspected was scummy but walked out with the opposite impression.
When Maria comes back i’d Like her to explain what she thought and why.

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I’m assuming this is your actual opinion since NS is here and statistically you’re prolly not both scum.

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Plz don’t mess with me in regards to unlikely scenarios.
They haunt my dreams.

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@april, how much are you using your notes pt?

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Strongest town read

Town pings and why.

Any scum reads? Why?

Go.

1. Morph.
2. Maybe S_S he’s different. He’s coming off as honest in his last biggish post. midwaybear initial post. After that back slide.
3. Nope.

Sorry, I don’t really see the point.

Update:
Scum read: midwaybear.

Bell, is this the basis for your read change on midway?

From town to null, yup.

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I’m not. Which is why it’s a null and not a scumbbq.

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You do have a logical point tho bulge.

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If it was a scum read i’d voted him.

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Well, not to get too deeply into it.
But there’s the foot in the door effect. Zmuffinman asked you to summarize but it seems like he read it all anyway.
I wanted to engage him since he was engaged but instead he grumped at me.

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Stop pretending
your read on me makes no sense, and your read exercise was yuck

My initial read on you was because you said tunnel was all over the place and I thought that seemed a little townie. I naturally scum read Ns when he’s town based on my last game with him.

I try to push out of rvs and see how others react to it giving early reads and seeing who bites is a part of that.

Afterwords I felt you asked fairly big standard questions. So you back slided.

Would you like to share what’s yuck about it?

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Why are people townreading Bell

This is a good question.

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You do have a logical point tho bulge.

anything else?

Thanks for helping me realize that just because a player does a thing doesn’t necessarily mean what he was gunna do is alignment indicative even if disinterest is scum indicative for him.

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Because it was a personal read on you specifically.

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Um, I wanted the game to slow down and if anyone’s reads suddenly changed and then ask them about what happened and why they changed and all that good stuff.

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Because it was a personal read on you specifically.

that was not even remotely apparent from anything you said prior to this page

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Does midwaybear think it’s untrue that he shows less interest in the game and the goings on in it as scum?

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Sure, that’s entirely possible, which is why I thanked bulge for pointing out exactly that.

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Or rather that I made a few too many assumptions.

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The question itself was not directed at you though. Or meant for you as a part of a lager plan. It pinged me, while I was #730. I hoped to consolidate content into a more digestiable form and get better reads on people.

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I really don’t go for larger plans. Lol.
My hands are full just trying to read people.

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There was literally no point to do the exercise and it felt quite unnatural/artificial to me.

There's no point to... sharing your reads in a clear and concise format?

That's a new one.

That's not really what I was thinking, but now you have one read.
VOTE: Bell

Thanks. But you already told me about it.

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That’s neither helpful nor accurate.

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Bell and plus?

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@april:

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1. My reason was as stated.
2. Occam’s razor needed.
3.How is it a yucky town cred grab?

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S_S, I appreciate the assist.
But why are you assisting? It appears to be your niche.

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@april, how much are you using your notes pt?

How is this known?

? That there’s a notes pt?
That you’re in the lobby and forgot to press the invis lurk button or?

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If you weren’t a mafia thread creator I might have agonized over whether you were trying to town slip or not here. Instead, I just won’t think about it or acknowledge that it happened at all.

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I don't think joyed is scum

They come off as scum who’s null or town reading players. I don’t like the way they “like players” but null read “for safety”. It looks like they’re trying to keep a strong political standing while not giving full momentum to certain players, I being one of them. This also makes sense because I was gaining a little momentum earlier

If you weren’t a mafia thread creator I might have agonized over whether you were trying to town slip or not here. Instead, I just won’t think about it or acknowledge that it happened at all.

I PM’d NachoMod about it, and wasn’t given a link before hand or anything about it, so I didn’t know it was a game thing

Oh yeah, I just visited the private threads and they were there before I even got my role pm.

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Wait does that mean you don’t have a drug trip report for us when you die.

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Suddenly, I’m happy i’m not scum partners with joyed.

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It’s 1 am and my eyebrows have risen significantly.

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Would you be terribly offended if I started off by saying that for whatever reason your posts sound exactly like mine do when I replace into a scum slot but better worded and organized.

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*back pat* we’ll get you sorted. Even if it’s at the end of the game and you just hammered town in elo.
Have a good night.

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Yus
I have sheep to catch.

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brain dead today. May or may not be helpful today.

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@journeymanbear, in this case signal to noise just meant that for every post that was related to the game there was a stray comment that wasn’t really related to the game.

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I need easy reads so my amount of work done looks inflated.

You see, I have this secret tell that has pretty decent amount of accuracy even without me reading all those pages.
I'm going to use this secret tell and call morph and Bell town for until at least Day 3.

Hey cool thanks.

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I'll give you 10 points if you figure out my secret tell though.

That stopped being a good tell for me the first time I scum-hydra'd with nacho. I think you know that.

There's town all over my iso, but number of posts isn't it.

Oh I wasn't serious. I literally didn't read the game yet still except for like 1~2 pages. And then I saw you complaining about there being no content. So I became lazy mode again.

Further proof that effort does not always equal accuracy. The world is ruled by slackers.

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re Alisae's catchup:

Curious about a few things:
1) Why are you skipping morph's posts in particular? post count?
2) If it's post count, why are you reading bell to the point where you're just utterly shutting down any suspicion pointed that way? I assume you read that slot?

This catchup feels like someone who's been reading the game vs someone who's been catching up in the moment in that it seems to have already decided to handle specific slots in specific ways

-b

I pretty much feel the same. What bothers me the most is how many people are sorted into each category and who’s sorted where.

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Hang out with me. But don’t expect great things from me today.

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I plead the fifth. We played together a long ass time ago.

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I’m not an alt alt. This is just my main now, I quit mafia for 5-6 years? I used to go by remembrance.

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I was talking about Remilia since you said you wanted us to hang together and discuss whatever I guess.

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Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Why did Prism replace out?

Are you a drug dealer. What’re you selling.

@morph, Luke warm. Bork seems a little townie. On the surface, but no ahah’s or click’s yet.

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Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Why did Prism replace out?

Are you a drug dealer. What’re you selling.

@morph, Luke warm. Bork seems a little townie. On the surface, but no ahah’s or click’s yet.

Were you a wizard at reading Notsci? I can't remember a game that you and I played that also had notsci on the player list, but those were the days of dinosaurs, so.

No I replaced into a game as an alt named knell and derailed a wisdom/gif scum team elo win.
NS was there but he was long dead before i repped in.
I just recently played a game with him for the first time I think. I scum read him all of day 1 and it took a very convinced IAI for me to re-evaluate and that re-evaluation and eventual town read came very, very slowly.
Pretty sure my natural inclination is to scum read him. I have a hard time reading the bulge too.

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VOTE: Alisae
Boop

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I’m right here you know.

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I feel like if you wanna hit scum you should be voting prism.
But on the other hand, he’s not here. So that wouldn’t be very sportsmanlike.

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It’s not really noise if they’re my posts. I don’t need to sort myself.

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I’m curious what S_S thinks about alisae since if you remove the length of alisae’s post it’s basically his scum entrance.

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I’m curious what S_S thinks about alisae since if you remove the length of alisae’s post it’s basically his scum entrance.

Eh?

Pet town reads. I’m trusting this person’s read’s but i’m not going to town read them etc.

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I do agree with joy and alisae not being scum together.
I feel kinda dumb though if it turns out they’re town. Sometimes when I feel sick I get overconfident. Brain says alisae scum and every objection is being disregarded with prejudice.

S_S. I agree, that’s why I do it too. But my posts vary more and I can get stuck or give out over/under confident reads that wouldn’t normally be quite so comfortable with as town. But why is it a good thing to trust the reads of somebody who you aren’t sure is scum or not. About a player you aren’t sure is scum or not either?

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Pattern recognition. I think your opening post tries to look town.
I think it’s odd that you trust morph to correctly read bork instead of try to engage with them yourself. I don’t think your response to me saying your entrance to the game reminds me of scum me.
I think your reads list looks organized in such a way as to give you enough space to miseliminate who you want and get partial credit for busing if the wind blows in the wrong direction.

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I think your reads seem too confident in some places and not confident enough In others. In a way I don’t think a town player would.

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Your comfort level on your reads doesn’t seem genuine is what I mean.

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Could absolutely be wrong though.
I’m not super accurate or confident.

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Pattern recognition. I think your opening post tries to look town.

How do you think town-Alisae would express confusion about the game starting without em noticing?

I’m afraid I don’t quite follow the pm post thing tbh.

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I’m gunna rest now.
Blech.

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As I sit here feeling awful,
I see muffin being thoughtful
And I wonder
How I wonder
Was I wrong?
Am I being sort of slothful.
Is his acting really awful
Or is this genuine you suck you guys
I’m town.
Is his scum game so expressive
And so eternally impressive
That he’s able to to put you down
With a word.

I’m not editing this.

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Umehara Daigo random uppercut his way out of evo 20idon’trememberwhich.

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Can muffin scum pull off this level of sheer self/possession?

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Bummer.
I wanted to give that a town read.

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Gimme

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people overrate my scum game a lot

i'm very easy to read

I think effort makes up for a lot. There appears to be a lot of good strategies and, for lack of better words. Rules of engagement going on.

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Not to be a super ass, but he’s probably not scum
This game.

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There’s no real narrative here. No overarching strategy. Just poking around and poking back when poked. It looks like a different playbook herr.

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Both.

I think you’re enthusiastic town.
I think muffin, for aforementioned reasons, is playing from the town playbook.
But maybe I shouldn’t make so many assumptions so quickly. As stated, when I don’t feel well I get overconfident.

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@morph, okay will do. But I always felt you overestimated me.
@mudfin/everyone else does FF /cabs make 1153 as scum?

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He’s right about the town block thing.
Though it might have been an unfortunate scum block in there. But a block of some sort.

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Look at how stressed he is.
I feel like a sucker if he’s scum.

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Plz don’t

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No town block with the person who’s every word has slick written in tiny scribbles. This is Referring to you April, not alisae.
I’m all ears but I wish you wouldn’t throw so much stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks.

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i know if you blare the signal too hard you’re probably being fooled. But 1180 sounds like serious uncertainty about who is and isn’t scum.

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Gunna skim those games and then step away from the game some.

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If one of you is sercretly giggling at me for being fooled I will be very upset.

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How come you always know i’m Town bulge but I never know you’re town.

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I read the meta touhou game and I instantly realized that while I might have been able to fight muffin in your work of art game
I would have gotten destroyed by scum muffin in touhou. I’m weak and meek to aTe.

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Bell if its any consolation I'm pretty confident hes town this game

Why?

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Why can’t I vote 5 people at once.

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Bell if its any consolation I'm pretty confident hes town this game

Why?

How much of his play do you remember? You remember his early D1 where I kept having to get him to do things?

I remember most of it. Sure. But d2 and beyond. he was actively trying to engage with you but due to I presume real time constraints these interactions didn’t go very far.

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Perhaps to amend that point, he actively tried to engage you, then slapped a town read on you and pushed at Andre all day without engaging further, past that point.
In the other game I played with him, he town read me for focusing on reckoner when replacing in+whatever clidd did that got him to town read him.

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That reasoning is very flawed.

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What else you two got?

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I was wrong when I said this wouldn’t be a 100 page d1 I think.
I apologize.