Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[bob3141]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

To avoid being lynched? Why else?

You really think someone would claim vengful. Rather than someing liek VC, tracker, watcher. ect

[osuka]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

To avoid being lynched? Why else?

You really think someone would claim vengful. Rather than someing liek VC, tracker, watcher. ect

In a setup with several other PRs? Yeah, a vengeful claim is much more believable than a tracker claim for example

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah i see no particular reason to disbelieve the claim. vengeful townie doesnt add much town utility anyway, vigs are very swingy, this is weaker than a vig but still just as swingy.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Bob

[Andresvmb]

I think if Bob flips green, then absolutely execute Osuka next.

[Andresvmb]

There’s a lot I can’t square about you Bob. We haven’t really talked about this much, but you were adamant about not voting Kerset D1. And you still seemed to be inching towards trying to help Kerset D2 under tremendous pressure. I’m not confused enough about my reads I don’t think that I need to blow up my core.

[Andresvmb]

I am fine with an execution between Bob and Osuka, but fine I’ll avoid plus for today.

[Andresvmb]

You’ve been mostly pushing to distrust Teacher in this setup, and ended there D1.

[Andresvmb]

You have some decent takes I think, arguing that Menalque is Town, siding with Shelly, and calling me Town. But I just can’t trust you here.

[Andresvmb]

And I think Osuka is almost too blatant to be Scum. Like they haven’t just been off right pushing something funky. They were WAY off. Arguing against almost a completely sunken Kerset D2 in a way that just didn’t make any sense. Under such intense pressure, Scum probably don’t want to stick out like a sore thumb.

[bob3141]

There’s a lot I can’t square about you Bob. We haven’t really talked about this much, but you were adamant about not voting Kerset D1. And you still seemed to be inching towards trying to help Kerset D2 under tremendous pressure. I’m not confused enough about my reads I don’t think that I need to blow up my core.

standard policy. I dont lynch a claimed pr day one. You have much more info to review the claim the next day

[Andresvmb]

To be honest, I still very much think Osuka is Scum. I think Bob is Scum too. I think the odds of neither one of them being Scum is small. I don’t see how I vote anything else. Like I’m really trying to give everybody the benefit of the doubt, but I would be going against way too many Townies and current TR’s to do anything else.

[Andresvmb]

There’s just bound to be Scum here. I don’t see how there isn’t. Way too much resistance to Kerset in these slots historically. Some bad pushes from both, and from Bob almost a deliberate attempt at staying away from the action. Like the push onto IV without a vote following the “slip”. And the shading of Teacher with some bad info that Teacher called out. I’m not seeing either slot as Town.

[bob3141]

There’s just bound to be Scum here. I don’t see how there isn’t. Way too much resistance to Kerset in these slots historically. Some bad pushes from both, and from Bob almost a deliberate attempt at staying away from the action. Like the push onto IV without a vote following the “slip”. And the shading of Teacher with some bad info that Teacher called out. I’m not seeing either slot as Town.

You do realise much of what teacher was calling out was nonsense


He calls me shade for seeing him do an action i have seen scum do. For claimign a highly unlikely role. One we know now to be complete nonsense. If he had claimed informed cop, i would have beleived it. Never plain simple informed townie, one thats just been informed of scum rolestopper. Toenie informed of anothers alignment, yes. town informed with addition role, yes. But never what he claimed day one in a disingenuous way. That was the heart of why I scum read him.


He made a big thing over semantic. And at that in very disingenuous way. Like he came out with silly thing of oh no your lying. rather simply saying your wrong there. He kept makign a big deal over a few days comment. When it should of been clear that i was talking about to calendar days when i typed it. When teh main point was that there was pleanty of time left on the clock. There migh have been 6-8 hours left than i thought. But it didnt change that he made his choice between osuka and village. Take this not 3-4 hours from deadline but with a whole day left.




And kept drawing himself into my read on dmath. Even through large sections of it had nothing to do with him. It should of been clear to him that the main focus of it was how. Dmath went from osuka > iv. osuka might not of been a scum read but it clearly wasnt a much of town read. If he thought he was being over townread. Too reading Iv as scum, on points that IV had answered well. And it should of been obvous IV was town. Ok i migth of generalised. But it should of still been clear i was predominantly talking about math.

Any one who though village was in anyway a decent lynch that day should get of their high horse.


And look at teacher how he doesnt quote. He makes a quote and then he rewrites into it what ever he though. He miss quotes me at times and other makes of thing i never said.

[Tayl0r Swift]

vote. bob.

[bob3141]

Any game some makes a claim thats clearly not true, you can expect me to scum read them. If he had never made the claim informed townie full stop I doubt i would have ever tunneled him.

And if I was scum you can well bet your arse i would have kept my interactions to him to min. If i spot a town power role i near always town read them as scum and bumb them off in the night.

[bob3141]

vote. bob.

I think you need to reread the game if you think im scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

vote. bob.

I think you need to reread the game if you think im scum.

I think you need to reread the scum if you think im game.

[bob3141]

Yeah there’s no way this slot is town

VOTE: plusjoyed

Why does scum plus claim vengful of all things?

To avoid being lynched? Why else?

You really think someone would claim vengful. Rather than someing liek VC, tracker, watcher. ect

In a setup with several other PRs? Yeah, a vengeful claim is much more believable than a tracker claim for example

how do you think it was meant to help him survive. And why do you think he would roleclaim now. As he wasnt at l-1. And if he was at any point certainly not long enough to show up in any vote counts

[bob3141]

Vote count 1.18

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

Kerset [5]:

Andresvmb, Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, Menalque

Tayl0r Swift [3]:

shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED

NDMath [2]:

bob3141, teacher

innocentvillager [2]:

Kerset, osuka

PlusJOYED [1]:

Tayl0r Swift

Not Voting [0]:

mod notes

~ another one

flavour

Vote count 1.19

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

Kerset [4]:

Ydrasse, innocentvillager, Saudade, Menalque

Tayl0r Swift [4]:

shellyc, NDMath, PlusJOYED, Andresvmb

NDMath [2]:

bob3141, teacher

innocentvillager [2]:

Kerset, osuka

PlusJOYED [1]:

Tayl0r Swift

Not Voting [0]:

mod notes

~ the next person to say "a pagetop for daddy" is getting a modkill

flavour

Vote count 1.20

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

innocentvillager [5]:

Kerset, osuka, Andresvmb, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

Kerset [2]:

innocentvillager, Saudade

Tayl0r Swift [2]:

shellyc, NDMath

NDMath [2]:

bob3141, teacher

Not Voting [2]:

Menalque, Ydrasse

mod notes

~ i hate doing VCs on mobile zzz

flavour

does anyone actualy look at the vote counts.

Thats was how the kerset wagon broke. Look who had an active part in making a new wagon

[bob3141]

Plus town as teh wagon momentum had already been switched. That needs two scum early. Even with kersets fake claim as we know now. You either get lingering wagon or straight away the wagon breaks up into loads of different wagons. Rather than what happened, a concerted switch.

[bob3141]

taylor swift was a failed wagon before kerset. So day one it was very strongly town indictive. Means it was being pushed but not heavily. And anway odds of teh two leading wagons being svs is always low. If kerset had flipped town it again would of been a sign of town taylor. as the wagon happened after kerset formed. If both are town you would have expected them to stayed tied.

No wagon formed math even though he was only vote behind taylor but instead village.


See thats a choice there. scum choose to push village over dmath. As the vote counts showed the town players followed rather than scum following town

[bob3141]

If we had just lynched kerset there and then day one. You would never have had any info on who scum tried to get killed instead of kerset. While also reducing the risk of killing a town pr. As scum would of likely killed him if he was town. By day 3 at the latest and even day two is suspect.

There was no risk in lynching kerset day two. As we had the info on his night action. How he was slow to give it and then claimed he was noivce. Just a shame teacher stole my hammer.

[bob3141]

innocentvillager [5]: Kerset, osuka, Andresvmb, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

s, osuka, andre, t , t

Highly unlikely that both osuka and andre are town. And i rather think andre is townie. He has sew sawed between me and osuka in townie way. rather than flip flopping

[bob3141]

Vote count 1.28

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-09-18 21:30:00).

execution

bob3141 [4]:

Andresvmb, NDMath, Ydrasse, teacher

innocentvillager [3]:

osuka, Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED

teacher [2]:

Kerset, bob3141

Kerset [1]:

shellyc

osuka [1]:

Menalque

Not Voting [2]:

innocentvillager, Saudade

mod notes

~

flavour

then mine and village wagosn formed. yet both go no where

Sign that scum are not on teh same wagon. as with different wagons this status quo continues