Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Menalque]

But like

Why

Town cop, miller checker, vengeful

Vs

Rolestopper

Is basically balanced (Again, for a mini normal) and you can add an ascetic on either/both sides and I don’t think it changes a lot

[Menalque]

Oh I got pedited

[shellyc]

i mean i basically agree with you, but the fact that you had to go through all that to get there makes me distrust you.

ok so why tf can't I actually put in effort to sort a slot that has been mostly under the radar

[PlusJOYED]

what im getting at is how would a mafia play around vengeful

[Ydrasse]

so looking at this vc there like. has to be scum between these three right?

in which wagon?

oh, i meant the fact that we had three pretty evenly divided wagons.

[Menalque]

again without having thought as much as id like to have about this, i would say that there is >1 scum in { mena, shelly }

osuka still bullshitting

please enlighten me on how i'm bullshitting

i'm really betting on you being the scum in there

Okay when did this change bc I thought that as of D2 you were still p much lockscum on me

the combination of iv flipping green and kerset flipping blue means i had the game almost completely backwards so i took a step back and reevaluated, and even though your push on me was dogshit youve been pretty okay ever since that

So this was only post-kerset flip

Hmm, okay

[Menalque]

what im getting at is how would a mafia play around vengeful

Setups aren’t balanced around the idea that mafia should have a way to “play around” every tool town has

I disagree with this but it’s part of setup philosophy atm

[osuka]

and if you're _so_ town like you claim to be, why the fuck would i not just nk you and get it over with

because theres 0 benefit in killing someone who doesn't have a great sense of how to find scum

Osuka next time you’re around can you run through your progression on me

after the iv flip iirc you took a step back and remained critical of my slot but in a much more reasonable manner. you dropped the whole "look at him online but not posting" bullshit which really isn't a tell at all ever, and started actually analyzing the slot using your brain

generally after that point you had progressions that felt very natural and nothing really pinged me. if that's a page or two then sure, it doesn't do much, but over the course of several calendar days that ends up changing your read

[PlusJOYED]

if I were scum I'd try to pocket the vengeful claim very carefully
I think that's what bob is doing here

[Menalque]

When precisely did your opinion start shifting on me then osuka? During N2?

[osuka]

what im getting at is how would a mafia play around vengeful

depends on their reads, if they are deathtunneling a town slot you leave them be and push for a mislynch

otherwise you just nk them

[PlusJOYED]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: bob

[Menalque]

ahh the pedits why do they tease me so

[osuka]

give me a sec mena let me go back in the thread and give you some ballpark post numbers

it was very gradual and there wasnt a single thing you did. it was also partly because other people started looking much scummier and im not too sure youd be in a team with most of them

[Ydrasse]

...so is bob/plus viable as a team oooooor.

[Menalque]

Okay I can wait

Also @ydrasse I would have said no but again bob really shouldn’t ever be pushing for not flipping a venge claim so..

[Ydrasse]

i'm staring at this vote right now from plus like it should mean something.

[osuka]

Okay I can wait

Also @ydrasse I would have said no but again bob really shouldn’t ever be pushing for not flipping a venge claim so..

you were markedly townier during day 2

[osuka]

at that point my read definitely hadnt flipped but that's just because of the circumstances from d1. after the kerset flip i reevaluated and you kept being townier during d3 so i kind of had to let it go because it was probably stupid to keep going

[osuka]

does that answer your question

[Menalque]

Okay this is what’s confusing me because I think I made all of about 10 posts on D2 before teacher hammered while I was sleeping

So yes it does but also not totally satisfactorily if that makes sense

[osuka]

yeah well thats fair, d2 was really short anyway. as i said the read only really flipped and i felt okay with your slot when kerset flipped red and i realized i probably had everything ass-backwards

[shellyc]

if I were scum I'd try to pocket the vengeful claim very carefully
I think that's what bob is doing here

SR bob?

Like how hard are you scumreading ydrasse

Unless you are like 100% lockscum on her then it makes much more sense to use your venge shot on someone who’s liable to be the guillo tomorrow

decently enough at this point
i SR osuka more and I think I TR bob honestly
the problem is that I trust you guys to sort bob/osuka out the next day, I have little hope that ydrasse will be found

TR on bob?

explain your logical progression

[Menalque]

Idk I’m just struggling to parse whether or not I believe this as a progression given the timing and that I feel like things happened at different times

I probably need to reread those bits myself

But like I didn’t start re-evaluating you on your merits without the ellitell (which incidentally isn’t bullahit but it does need to be checked thoroughly or like more thoroughly than I did — it’s prob more accurate the more games someone is in too now I think about it) D2 I did that on D1 I think when you were still very locked o me being scum

And then I feel like I didn’t really say anything that would explain a reversal on me on D2 bc it was so short

I’m thinking

[shellyc]

...so is bob/plus viable as a team oooooor.

with the Thing I just pointed out I think it's def possible