Silent Star 2: Menagerie

[Isis]

VC on this page.

I have never seen Kanna powers used to make a sad face and I don't like it

[Isis]

I like Jeremiah

[Isis]

I can't stop watching

[PlusJOYED]

VOTE: Ydrasse

VOTE: ydrasse

[PlusJOYED]

please pardon my lateness townqueen

[Hectic]

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Votecount 2.3

[2] Ydrasse:

Isis, PlusJOYED

[1] Isis:

Tayl0r Swift

[3] Not Voting:

Ydrasse, Not_Mafia, Lokie Dokie

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to execute. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to execute.
The deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-30 19:51:07).

Joint Mod ISO.

[Isis]

I watched it all in one sitting I'm not proud of what happened but what happened has happened

this miniseries gives me lots of thoughts

[drusilla]

drusilla, where do you stand? do you think eliminating the unconfirmed pair first is a good idea? should we save taylor?

i am happy with eliminating the unconfirmed pair first. i think i too prefer it. then tomorrow, if necessary, taylor can make the towncase/scumcase we have been promised and we can go from there. the votes are better for town if we eliminate the unconfirmeds first anyway. also, this:

Ydrasse, Not Mafia, and Tayl0r Swift rank below you.

Ydrasse - it's more likely to have trouble getting footing in a game as scum compared to town. It feels mean when you have to scumread someone who is struggling if they are actually town, but that's how it is.
N_M - I felt like he didn't meme in any phase of the game as much as he would if town.
Tayl0r - being irritating in condemn phase is very weakly town indicative, I'm underwhelmed now. People have pointed out some possible inconsistency in her condemn phase mind set

feels like it could be helpful in trying to reverse engineer the mafia choices.

namely, loki is still moving his chess pieces in a way that makes me uneasy

Loki doesn't seem as towny when he's being reactive rather than proactive but that's probably situational and I will probably stick with my early read

and if i start to squint...

[Tayl0r Swift]

it seems that people have already been convinced but im happy to produce more content and engage. also happy to vote ydrasse, but dont want to put it at L-1 before we're ready since NM is a factor here.

[Isis]

What are you driving at, drusilla?

[drusilla]

What are you driving at, drusilla?

that the pairings don't feel random... and that i can find scum explanations for what is making kanna uneasy about loki's play today, even though i still think it is most likely not mafia at this time. maybe simply i spent too much time looking through the thread and coming to the previous conclusion that now i'm just connecting things that aren't there.

[Isis]

You think a lot
you're one of my favorite people

[Ydrasse]

when i’m home it’s finally mafia time again for me

[Ydrasse]

i shall unleash a fantastic solve upon this thread

[Kanna]

I watched it all in one sitting I'm not proud of what happened but what happened has happened

this miniseries gives me lots of thoughts

!!!!!

any non-spoiler thoughts? did you like it?

[Kanna]

@taylor, did you like the post restricted phase? can you sort this out?

Spoiler:

her lack of commitment and detachment is very scum-indicative. Mafia usually do feel detached in these nomination scenarios when they do not have anything at stake.

Especially when in those towngames I referenced, she played 180 degrees differently. And think about this, we all choose our respective animals because we actually LIKE those animals and therefore try to find the images we like the most but what does Tayl0r post? diseased sickly dogs. Do you think when she signed up for this game, she was enthusiastic to post those types of grotesque pictures? But she would very likely be upset if she got a red role PM and that very possibly could have affected the images she selected. Kanna managed to find cute bat picks but Tayl0r couldn’t even find one cute doggie?

And her growling and barking at Isis and me for liking one of her posts was strange and then she topped it off by voting for her both days, so hiding behind the Isis is a cat thing, how isn’t that antitown? But had she then not claimed it was “random”, at least it would be consistent but then she claims it wasn’t random, it’s because Isis was a cat. Now, if she was actually doing some solving here, making reads etc., I’d ignore all of the above but we have an important decision to make and Tayl0r apparently has no opinion on it and isn’t even putting a good faith effort in actually trying and when I contrast that with those three games of hers - marathon or not - the difference is clearly striking.

THIS IS SO MANIPULATIVE. if you know me youll know that i very much enjoy pushing buttons and posting images like that. i was having a blast. and had i rolled scum i probably would have done the same thing, and had even more fun doing it. youll see beaucoup shitposting in all my games (marathon games excepted somewhat because marathon games dont really allow time for that)

This is another contradiction... you said you were in a rush to get to the phase where you could post unrestricted, and it's intuitive that collective tolerance for posting images would drop at that point. Now you say you were loving the post restricted phase

[Kanna]

isis likes the happy kannamoji so i will grace the thread with another (´• ᴗ •`✿)

i am also looking forward to ydrasse's solve

[Loki Dokie]

if drusilla agrees, then i must be right :> i also skimmed through the completed game and my opinion is unchanged

i think we win the game by saving taylor, so we kill everyone else. i would strongly recommend starting with the unconfirmed pair and then n_m if wrong

i've still got my suspicions about the unconfirmed pair - namely, loki is still moving his chess pieces in a way that makes me uneasy and ydrasse has been seeming disengaged for a long time. n_m could always be scum, but it's kind of a cop out and i don't wanna believe it i guess

Because I likely have the CORRECT chess pieces.

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: Ydrasse

VOTE: Ydrasse

VOTE: ydrasse

Why aren’t you listening to me? It’s NM. You’re the one who told me to listen to Dru. Everything points to NM. I’m tired of screaming into the void and I guess we’ll just have to drag this our an extra day because you and Kanna won’t connect the dots.

[Loki Dokie]

What are you driving at, drusilla?

that the pairings don't feel random... and that i can find scum explanations for what is making kanna uneasy about loki's play today, even though i still think it is most likely not mafia at this time. maybe simply i spent too much time looking through the thread and coming to the previous conclusion that now i'm just connecting things that aren't there.

Scum!me doesn’t align myself with unconfirmed Ydrasse ever. If I’m scum here I don’t push NM because I know my game is over with Tayl0r clear, so I really don’t know wtf you people are even smoking.

If I’m scum here, I self-vote and encourage everyone to jump on me to put an end to my misery but because I’m town and like 99.9999% correct on it being NM, I will continue to push this to the freaking rooftops and pull my hair our until the rest of you realize that NM!scum is literally the only thing that makes an iota of sense.

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: Not Mafia

This is right.

Oh also scum!me doesn’t bus Pooky and put him at E - 2 when he still was savable but lets not vote the only unconfirmed slot who voted Isis, had the only actually good reason to confirm plus. Cuz that’s not like the most logical thing ever.

[Loki Dokie]

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Votecount 1.18

[5] PookyTheMagicalBear:

drusilla, Isis, Loki Dokie, Kanna, Tayl0r Swift

HAMMER

[3] Isis:

PlusJOYED

,

Not_Mafia, PookyTheMagicalBear

[1] Not Voting:

Ydrasse

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to execute. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to execute.
The deadline is in (expired on 2020-09-20 19:59:58).

Joint Mod ISO.

Why are you people not reading this?

NM confirmed plus because he needs two misexecutes to win but after plus flipped green, guess who’s logically next? Did you guess NM? So obviously the smartest thing for him to do was to confirm plus and wifom you all to think that scum either bussed or was offwagon. It just beyond infuriates me when the obvious logical solve is right under people’s noses and they just totally ignore it. At least now that we have Tayl0r solved we at least won’t lose but why do we need to drag this out when we can get it right on the first take?

[Kanna]

i have my thinking bucket on

[Isis]

I watched it all in one sitting I'm not proud of what happened but what happened has happened

this miniseries gives me lots of thoughts

!!!!!

any non-spoiler thoughts? did you like it?

I liked it.

Spoiler:

A lot of scenes felt like a lot of suspension of disbelief on how succinct a conversation could be and how on-the-nose its key points would be. I couldn't put my finger on why I would get this impression versus any other drama but I noticed that feeling a lot. It didn't strain my suspension of disbelief past its individual breaking point but I felt cognizant of it.
There was similarly a lot of "too witty to be unscripted" dialogue, with characters using metaphors and similes and five dollar adjectives unexpectedly. I say similarly but this didn't bug me at all, it was more par for the course, although the last drama I watched was in Korean so I'm sure anything remotely clever was "uhm that phrase doesn't work in English so the subtitles will say she's disappointed in you", but what was different to other dramas was minor characters or evil characters having more equal mastery of it as they played around with terminology from the time period, "see you've got a gentleman admirer; no? is he not a gentleman or not an admirer?". That level playing field contributes to an impression that the other characters perhaps have a richer, right or wrong, view of reality than the protagonist with her nihilistic streak.. the protagonist is clever with language but some of it isn't truly much more clever than "I know you are but what am I?" or "I know you can, but may you?" shallower things.
The protagonist is definitely well balanced a sufficiently relatable vessel for empathy without.. imbalancing it in the wrong ways, I don't want to be more specific there for an unspoilered version. That part felt pretty well nailed to me.

[Isis]

don't worry loki I'm selfvoting immediately after you flip