Codenames (Game 65 in progress)

[Mizzytastic]

I'm not hot on the homophones either but 4 is a lot

[lilith2013]

serious question, weren't homophones banned?

[Farren]

I'd definitely object to homophone-based guesses. I agree STATE would be an excellent guess for FAIR, but as far as FARE goes ... well, I suppose if the government is running the transportation system, you could call the fee to ride a State Fare, but that is stretching things way too much for my liking,

Haven't heard of a Time Fare before. My first thought on that was possible confusion with timeshares, which Mizzytastic already mentioned as a possibility.

And yeah, hotel payments would be called something else besides a fare. Fares usually strongly imply transportation.

Although now that I think on that, a hotel is a possible destination for someone paying a fare, especially airfare or a train fare. Makes me like it a little better, although there are far too many possible destinations on the board for me to be entirely comfortable with that line of thinking.

PEdit > pretty sure they are banned, which is why I'd object to basing a guess off of one, unless there's a solid connection for the word as-is. BLACK is a perfectly good clue for either NIGHT or KNIGHT, for example, or vice versa.

[Mizzytastic]

Yes, but our clue giver's reputation is well known. I'm aiming for being aware of it but not acting on it until something goes bad. I guess I'm throwing out stuff I don't want to say today but may be necessary to consider if we just can't work out what the last one is

[Mizzytastic]

I also just struggle with homophones personally and part of that is making it hard to keep those ideas out of my head

[Farren]

Think we're just waiting for Menalque to check in and give us his thoughts before we start threshing out what to guess and in what order?

[Menalque]

Do ski lifts normally charge fares?

Kind of, yeah. Generally you buy a pass for the day though, so it's not quite the same, but if you end up in the wrong area you can pay for a single fare to get back.

[Menalque]

My thoughts were, in sequence, TRAIN, CHECK, AIR, STATE. I think you've mostly covered the reasons. I think fare goes well with check tbh -- you get your fare checked on lots of buses and also both have to do with paying for things. State because state fair, I don't remember the rules on homophones but I wanna say they're allowed as like a bonus. I think we should guess 2-3 and pass.

[Menalque]

I propose, after reading here: TRAIN -> AIR -> CHECK if we do go for three.

[Mizzytastic]

If I had to give a preference it'd be AIR -> TRAIN -> CHECK but I'm confident enough on the first two that either way works for me

[StrangerCoug]

Shall we lock in TRAIN and AIR then while we discuss whether we want to do CHECK?

[Farren]

Works for me.

[Mizzytastic]

Me too

[Farren]

Guess: Train

Guess: Air

[CreativeMod1]

TRIANGLE	PART	BEACH	THIEF	DWARF
LOCH NESS	STATE	HOTEL	MINT	LASER
AIR	GROUND	ALPS	POLE	BOMB
OCTOPUS	CAP	CHECK	TRAIN	AMERICA
COOK	PENGUIN	GERMANY	FIELD	TIME

Both are Blue

[Mizzytastic]

So, take a risk on CHECK or not? I kinda wanna go on it been as 3/4 thought it separately and the clue was a 4 so that way we aren't behind on our cluenumber+1 guesses next clue. But we are already ahead so maybe not?

[Farren]

My concern about CHECK is that CHECK is one of those words that can be matched to just about anything; anything can be checked in some fashion or another.

Normally with fares, it's not so much the fare itself that gets checked but the ticket that you get from paying the fare - at least with trains and planes. Could be phrased as "Check to see if you've paid the fare", but again - allow phrasing like that and I could connect CHECK to just about any clue imaginable.

Counterargument: a fare could be paid *with* a check, maybe? At least for trains and planes; taxis and buses, not so much - but train fares and airfares would be far more likely to be on the cluegiver's mind, given AIR and TRAIN were both hits. Of course, in the Age of the Internet, that's nowhere near as likely as it used to be.

My immediate inclination is to pass here. But I'm not 100% dead-set on it.

[Menalque]

I vote we play it risky and take a chance

[Mizzytastic]

.@ Farren, I feel like I've heard fare used interchangeably with ticket in some contexts which is I think why I'm a bit more confident than you on it. I think if we were first team I'd be more inclined to go with it but were second team and already ahead so long as we can match as many clues as they get so I'm more split

[StrangerCoug]

CHECK is less of a stretch than the other options proposed, so it might be worth the risk, but I'm more comfortable with passing over guessing it.

[Farren]

Hm.

2-2 split.

Anyone got a good way of resolving that?

[Mizzytastic]

I'm happy to side with pass here

[Farren]

3-1 for passing, and discussion seems to have ended.

Pass

[CreativeMod1]

Blue team has passed
Back to Jake for the Red team

[Jake The Wolfie]

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