Open 92 - Vengeful Mafia (Game Over!) before 656

[Caboose]

Yay! First post!

Vote: Caboose

Can't wait to use my vig kill!

[Caboose]

Also: Oh, Caboose, must you really claim town this early in the game? It's damned annoying and only makes me watch you more carefully.

Unvote

Sorry, I didn't mean to piss people off with that post.

[Caboose]

It was a joke.

I love how Mirth and somestangeflea are already ganging up on me for it, though.

[Caboose]

Course, thinking on it, scum would have to be moronic to

If someone hammers, he kills them.

So, you want me to use a vig kill on a likely townie?

Please explain.

[Caboose]

I'm here, sorry about that. My computer just went a little wonky.

Let me read up please.

[Caboose]

FL: all fine and dandy, but this is a 5 player game, we start off in LYLO, so excuse me if I think you need to amend your playstyle for this. Can't be sure of finding scum page 1, and I'd really like a lynch that isn't one part lack of enthusiasm and one part "I'm going to convince myself that this person is scum because I already voted for them."

And if I'm right it's a moot point anyway. Either way, I'll

Unvote

pending a replacement and

Vote:Mirth

based on my earlier concerns.

And you think that my getting replaced would make my replacement innocent?

Major FOS: forbiddenlight

For flipflopping.

No, I think Caboose is scum. Though you are certainly rising on my list given what I said earlier. Throw shit around and see what sticks.

If you think I'm scum, then why do you keep unvoting and revoting me?

[Caboose]

So why are you revoting Caboose exactly? Please explain your reasoning?

Because the only reason I unvoted was because L-1 seemed dangerous

. It doesn't anymore because the vig can be directed if Caboose is town, and if he's scum, nothing of value is lost.

Please tell me if any of the following is crap logic.

somestrangeflea seems townish to me and I'll tell you why. He saw me as scum and he's trying to get me lynched.

It looks to me like forbiddanlight is trying to dance around, get me lynched, and avoid a vig kill (from the bold). If forbiddanlight really thought I was scum, then why isn't she trying to get me lynched? Why is she afraid of me being at L-1?

Vote: forbiddanlight

I'm not afraid of roleclaiming. I'm a townie.

[Caboose]

EBWOP:

@somestangeflea: Do you think that my first two posts really warrant a lynch?

[Caboose]

Because you are a

fucking

moron

taking my words out of context. I thought L-1 was dangerous to the TOWN because of my misunderstandings of the rules. Yanno, this misrepresentation of me really has me flipflopping because I'm not sure who's scummier. You or Mirth. Now it's you though

Ouch.

I'll repeat to you my question to somestrangeflea. Do you think that my first two posts warrant a lynch?

[Caboose]

I apologize. My language and insults were uncalled for. When I got home I was in a horrid mood and I projected it onto several games. I'm sorry about that. Everything except you being a moron stands though .

It's OK. I've learned from experience that mafia and a bad mood don't mix.

[Caboose]

Caboose: is there any possible protown reason for calling a barely playing player (or any player at all for that matter) protown when we're on page 4, in LYLO, and neither you nor he have done much in the way of scumhunting?

I used the word "townish." I'm not 100% sure.

Making a case for everyone and seeing what people follow? If that was the case, I could have just hammered Caboose already (assuming he and I aren't partners). Or stayed on you and pushed your lynch harder, because, honestly, you're not doing yourself any favors with your play. If I wanted an easy lynch, it's there, sitting on the platter, in the form of you, and could have been pulled off already. I doubt anyone would have faulted me for keeping you at L-1. Yet I'd really rather just hear from everyone here and get a discussion going where everyone is participating.

That just put you down on my scumdar. If I'm lynched (which is a distinct possibility) then I intend to use my vig kill on forbiddanlight.

[Caboose]

I have nothing new to add, I just like using invisible ink.

[Caboose]

Am I mistaken or is killing someone you think is harder to get lynched a very scummy way to think?

Or maybe sighing at the towns ineptitude. Please, lynch me. I want to kill someone. I've declared my target.

Have fun being a dead godfather (or goon, but I'm hoping you are the GF just for awesomeness).

I'd PREFER us to actually lynch scum, but if I have to kill them with a gun it's fine.

As for your knee jerk accusations, no, actually, I really did want to see what a replacement had to say, and I'm really torn between voting Mirth and Caboose. Each post I see allows me to reevaluate the situation. I'm jumpy, but it's like having two targets and not being sure which one to shoot, really.

I would like to know who you directed the bold comment at.

[Caboose]

I would like to know who you directed the bold comment at.

Mirth. Recall? I'm shooting her when you all decide to lynch me unless she changes my mind about her alignment. I will give you all the courtesy of a reread before I shoot if you decide I'm the lynch, but so far, my moneys on Mirth scum.

You quoted SSF in that post, and that's what threw me off.

[Caboose]

FL, would you kindly remind of the reason that you're voting for me?

[Caboose]

FL, you still didn't address SSF's knee jerb point.

To quote you:

Well, that was the fastest random stage ever. To be honest, I am well agreed with an FoS: Caboose.

He's floundering and trying to conform.

I'd vote but that puts him L-1.

I think that it is fair to say that

you

are the one that's foundering and trying to conform.

Also the fact that Caboose hasn't said a word since the page one and there are still 2 votes leads me to scum on that wagon.

Either way, I'll Unvote pending a replacement

Knee-jerk? The moment farside claims that he thinks scum are on the Caboose wagon, you hop off it.

Why is she afraid of me being at L-1?

Unvote, vote Caboose

Knee-jerk? The moment Caboose accuses you of being scummy for being afraid to put him at -1, you put him at -1.

[Caboose]

FL, you still didn't address SSF's knee

jerb

point.

EBWOP:

That should be "jerk".

[Caboose]

I think that it is fair to say that you are the one that's foundering and trying to conform.

No, not really. I'm foundering trying to figure out which one of the two scum to vote

As for the knee jerk point I said something about it I think. Every post you two have made has caused me to rethink where my vote is better. I'm well convinced both of you are scum.

Yes, you did say something earlier, but it didn't address the point very well. Why did you get off the bandwagon

right after

Farside called you down on it and why did you revote me

right after

I called you down on it?

But I'll drop that for now.

Another question that I want answered: Do you think that my first two posts warrented a lynch?

[Caboose]

But, I was also banking on the regular cowardice seen at MS

As I haven't been a member of MS long, please explain. Do you mean that you were banking on the fact that no one would have the courage to hammer me?

Yes, you did say something earlier, but it didn't address the point very well. Why did you get off the bandwagon right after Farside called you down on it and why did you revote me right after I called you down on it?

But I'll drop that for now.

I take that back. Please address my point.

[Caboose]

As I haven't been a member of MS long, please explain. Do you mean that you were banking on the fact that no one would have the courage to hammer me?

Yep. More so in this game because of the repercussions of being wrong

Why did you get off the bandwagon right after Farside called you down on it and why did you revote me right after I called you down on it?

Bad timing probably. I was kinda feeling Mirth and you at the same time and was conflicted on where to go. Especially after your post which felt a lot like blatent misrepresentation and made me feel

more sure

of your scumminess.

So were you sure that I was scum before my return?

[Caboose]

*bump*

Come on ppl.

As I haven't been a member of MS long, please explain. Do you mean that you were banking on the fact that no one would have the courage to hammer me?

Yep. More so in this game because of the repercussions of being wrong

OK.

Why did you get off the bandwagon right after Farside called you down on it and why did you revote me right after I called you down on it?

Bad timing probably

. I was kinda feeling Mirth and you at the same time and was conflicted on where to go. Especially after your post which felt a lot like blatent misrepresentation and made me feel more sure of your scumminess.

Please

tell me if I'm misinterpreting this. Are you saying that it was a coincidence?

[Caboose]

Please tell me if I'm misinterpreting this. Are you saying that it was a coincidence?

That's exactly what I'm saying. I don't sit around all day waiting for new posts. I occasionally drop by, see a new post, am compelled to respond to it on it's own combined with vague memories of the previous occurances in the thread. So, it could entirely be coincidental because I was considering one or two of the freshest posts and not really thinking of my previous actions.

So were you sure that I was scum before my return?

Nyeh, already answered this, but that's how I play. If I think someone is scum, I present it as certainty and see how they react. So far I'm unimpressed.

I'm not trying to impress you.

I'm having some serious doubts about my vote. I know I might take some heat for this and I know that FL

might

be scum, but I'll

unvote FL.

I would like to hear more from SSF and Farside.

[Caboose]

*bumping so that it goes back to the top of the page*

[Caboose]

I don't see what Forbidden stated that has Caboose changing his mind.
Forbidden what I would like from you is an opinion on each player in the game.
For example you have said nothing about SSF (who I get scummy vibes from) So just a quick PBPA on everyone please.

I get a pro-town vibe from FL's answers. Feel free to criticize my scumdar, though. You won't be the first.

OK, SSF. You're on the spot now.

Vote: somestrangeflea

[Caboose]

Besides, active lurking is quite a strong (with a silent "st") accusation. I'm not shying away from discussion, I'm not dodging questions, and I'm providing content, all of which are counter-productive to the entire "active lurking" process.

It the fact that you aren't really posting much at all that troubles me with you. I have seen many people forget about those who fly under the radar

.

I agree. You also throw out accusations without voting. If you're making the argument against FL, why aren't you putting your vote on her?

My vote stands.

[Caboose]

I have seen many people forget about those who fly under the radar.

And this is likely in a five player game?

If you're making the argument against FL, why aren't you putting your vote on her?

Because Mirth was still gone and I didn't want to hammer?

Vote: forbiddanlight

Knee-jerk?

That's a knee-jerk if I ever saw one.

And this is likely in a five player game?

You did lurk with a pretty good degree of success in the first 5 pages, so yes.

Vote

still

stands.

[Caboose]

And this is likely in a five player game?

You did lurk with a pretty good degree of success in the first 5 pages, so yes.

Vote

still

stands.

Wow somone just grew a backbone. Where have you been this game Caboose?

You mean that window between August 24 and early in September when I disappeared from MafiaScum? My computer didn't like this site for some reason and I couldn't log on, which annoyed me.

I left it alone for about a week, and then I tried logging on again and it worked. Don't know how that happened.

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Well of course it is. You posted, I realised you had unvoted, so I voted. It's a fairly simple process.

Did you vote for FL because I called you down on it, or you just happened to see that I unvoted after you read my post?

And I think that "I already answered that question" is an invalid answer to

any question

.

[Caboose]

And I think that "I already answered that question" is an invalid answer to any question.

Nyeh, well, if people are going to ask someone to answer a question without restating the question, I see no need to restate my answer. Quit being lazy people. Demonstrate my failure to answer or stop asking. Because I honestly am lost on what Mirth is looking for.

Every question I ask, I ask for a reason. I'm not asking people questions just for the hell of it.

[Caboose]

Did you vote for FL because I called you down on it, or you just happened to see that I unvoted after you read my post?

I would like an answer sometime within the century.

[Caboose]

Well of course it is. You posted, I realised you had unvoted, so I voted. It's a fairly simple process.

Did you vote for FL because I called you down on it, or you just happened to see that I unvoted after you read my post?

The second one.

Is anyone else besides me not buying this excuse?

@SSF:

What do you think about this post?

What if you're wrong about 2 of us, FL? Have you completely stopped considering Farside?

This just comes off desperate. You haven't even shown suspcion on me and now you are asking FL to question me?
This looks more like a last minute ploy to save the godfather.

[Caboose]

For the game to move along, SSF needs to continue posting or FL needs to hammer.

Come on everybody!

[Caboose]

Well, I'll gladly hammer. But is there any particular amount of time you want me to wait? I'll hold it off for however long the consensus is.

If SSF doesn't post between now and later tonight, go ahead and hammer.

[Caboose]

I think FL is much scummier, and if you're all ready to settle for a lynch (I think we should talk more), since.

vote:FL

What do you want to talk about?

[Caboose]

If SSF ends up being town, I'm going to kick myself.

[Caboose]

Okay Mirth you better do some fast talking because I'm looking at you right now as the GF.

Yeah, especially with that last second tactic trying to divert attention from SSF to Farside. Also, your last second vote for FL looked like a desperate attempt to save SSF to me.

I will hold my vote until I hear my response from you.

[Caboose]

I see Mirth as the best lynch candidate for today. Her last few post at the end of D1 really pinged on my scumdar.

I think FL is much scummier, and if you're all ready to settle for a lynch

(I think we should talk more),

since.

vote:FL

I see this post as trying to buy time, trying to save SSF, and trying to get FL lynched instead.

What if you're wrong about 2 of us, FL? Have you completely stopped considering Farside?

I see this post as an attempt to divert attention to Farside and again, trying to save SSF.


I guess that (assuming FL was the GF) FL could have hammered her scumbuddy to save herself, and therefore the game for the scum. But I don't see that as likely.

[Caboose]

EPWOP:

forgot to vote

Vote: Mirth

[Caboose]

Nice play by the scumteam.

Good game.

[Caboose]

What the hell? You guys didn't even wait for me to respond to your questions? This bothers me a bit. I guess I'm never allowed to have any more days when I'm too busy to check stuff on the computer then.

As to this game, no I did not think meta would save me, FL. I thought your play was atrocious. While Farside had some sort of point about SSF (though if you guys really care to use meta, I do lay off when it feels like someone just doesn't seem interested in playing), your case against me was utter crap. Congratulations Farside, since you were the one that figured this out. Though if I were town, I would also not have lynched SSF because to the extent he was not participating was still not enough of a scumtell for me.

Don't be bitter, Mirth.

Thanks for modding this Surye, I had fun.