mystery box of silver 10. (done)

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Is it your goal to get nked n1 every game nero.

LMAO

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k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me man

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my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...

Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...

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but the site rule is that MODS can't use the L word. Players still can.

Guideline, whatever. It will probably become rule soon enough

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k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me man

it doesnt have game impact

but it is AI

Is it AI for me to tell someone not to sexually harass another user? Honestly can't believe I'm having this discussion outside newbie forums

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my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...

Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...

Do you feel like mocking me is a good use of your time?

Yes at least I can maintain my brain cells

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k just replace me if you're going to comment on whether a post is good or not as a moderator

Actually yeah. Are we going to fucking ignore this? The mod is actively interfering with this game.
What the fuck is this

What are yall on man?? THEY POSTED TELLING YOU TO FOLLOW A SITE RULE. Then the mod is like yes good thanks for telling them to follow the rules and you think this has game impact?? And some are claiming it's AI????? You gotta be kidding me man

it doesnt have game impact

but it is AI

Is it AI for me to tell someone not to sexually harass another user? Honestly can't believe I'm having this discussion outside newbie forums

gimme a fking break dude, i didnt sexually harass anybody.

Lol what? I didn't say you did. I'm saying we're taking a good-faith PSA and dragging it into this game, and if it was about something people view as more "important" like sexual harassment yall would be disgusted at this conversation.

pedit: The problem is that you all are discussing it as something game-relevant. If you someone says "don't post death threats" and you vote on that, does that make it now just another part of the game???

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its also not impossible, to me at least, that the post was designed to sorta ad hom me and the others voting him.

Stuff like this.... man idk anymore. If you really think you could have possibly triggered someone why would you even try to place it in the realm of game content?? Like there's some things that are bigger than this stupid game

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my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site. Not going to quote fetch but yeah...

Yeah so I'm hearing if you take a chevy and switch the plus with a horse, it's now a ferrari. Only works if you're consistent throughout your time on the site though so watch out...

Do you feel like mocking me is a good use of your time?

Yes at least I can maintain my brain cells

*desire to eliminate intensifies* They way you are treating me this game is a far cry from last game. Or you really just that sore?

I mean I don't treat everyone the same way every game, it makes meta very easy. Also why I'm not a big believer in meta

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I don't really think of racism or sexual harassment as being more important than each other. everything in the game is game-relevant and can be AI.

I'm saying that PSAs like this should not be viewed as part of gameplay. It's just really disgusting to either post something like that to try to gain an advantage or to call someone out presuming they did so. Some things are more important than the game.

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I feel like SB should know that I'm town here but him mocking me and being a meanie shouldn't be the way he treats a town and if he's not town reading me then its just fake.

I don't TR but it's not because of this. I'm treating you the same way so who would I be to get ruffled over it?

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First off, that fucking essay was shit. It was them condescending about a relatively recent change that people are occasionally relapsing past. 2 isolated incidents are not people being racist. But regardless, it doesn’t take a fucking essay to tell people “hey, don’t say that word, it’s racially charged”. Call a spade a spade, it was unnecessary, disrespectful, and condescending.

I understand and wholeheartedly agree that people should not use the word. But to talk down to people by writing a cringy ass essay is not fucking right.

I understand if you feel this way, and maybe there are better ways to get people to stop using hurtful language. But that's a discussion that's separate from ingame AI stuff, and we need to make that clear.

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Can we just elim gamma and end the day?? Like what are we waiting for here

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Not sure samatha's gonna be in the game much longer my friend

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echo, just vote sam with us

What has samantha done that's scummy

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^We've had our disagreements but you're spitting such facts here DS

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echo, just vote sam with us

What has samantha done that's scummy

she thought the mod had conftowned a player and got really upset about it, as it messed up her strategy.

How is that scum AI?? I would be pissed and want to replace as town if mod conftowned someone it's just not fun to play at that point

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I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left

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i mean, I do have it in my notes PT that Sam is a bit active lurkish and you could argue thats scum behavior. And you could also argue that her trying to out the 3rd mason was scummy but idk about running up an empty slot.

Scummy enough to derail the wagon we've talked about hammering for like 20 pages for??

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I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left

I'm still here dude dw

I'm sorry but you have been bad recently too

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I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left

I'm still here dude dw

I'm sorry but you have been bad recently too

You've been listening to April way too much

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superbowl being so eager on the gamma flip is scummy and looks worse if samantha flips red

Agreed if we could actually flip someone instead of derailing legit wagons for no reason

But I'm willing to take that hit to my townpoints because someone needs to advocate for it

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I literally feel like I'm the only one who has a functioning brain since BH left

I'm still here dude dw

I'm sorry but you have been bad recently too

you called me a sexual criminal

No I didn't I think you've been following April's "don't read the thread" advice as well

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speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is an

awful

strategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.

I disagree on it not being scum-indicative, when the reason for it was "mod interfering" and suggesting it "confirmed" a player (although it didn't in my PoV).

Put yourself in samantha's shoes: if mod confirmed norway as town next post would you just continue to play because the error was in your benefit?

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I mean, I guess I could buy into a scum Sam gets ticked off that she felt like the mod was influincing the game.

Replace scum with town and it's just as valid. NAI

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You can ask Almost50 what happens when I’m more trolly early game then come out late game.

Do you do anything besides self meta?

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also agree that we should just lynch @ this point.

VOTE: sam

Reminder to not say that pls

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If sam flips green can yall agree to listen to me for the rest of the game

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like if it REALLY upsets someone here then we shouldn't use it.


that's why I'm night killing him so I can use it again.

I mean I really don't care so much about it, I just know others do and won't be so vocal about telling people to stop. I don't really care what people think on the issue and I understand that it's not an official rule, I just think it was really slimy for people to bring it into the game. We can talk about it in post game.

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If sam flips green can yall agree to listen to me for the rest of the game

wait...are you for or against the sam elim?

Against

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Like we are still letting this stuff influence the game, we're wagoning someone because we think they scumtold because of that whole incident. I 100% understand what samantha was feeling ATP.

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Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situation

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I'm fine with April but I really don't think we should be leaving gamma it will come back to bite us unless he is a town pr

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If I were a lesser man I'd probably push the "wow gamma wagon seems to be getting a lot of resistance" narrative but we all know wagonomics is bs to an extent

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a50 and sb are not miller masons. They DUNCTION as miller masons if you believe thier claim that they can only win with town and share its wincon but they are still its own seperate faction. I can't believe ppl are struggling with this.

You are the only one struggling with this pretty sure. Everyone understands that but doesn't want to say "3p aligned functionally miller masons" to describe us, the only reason u really care is because you scumread all third parties for some strange reason

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Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situation

Nope, and I haven't seen it done by town before. I

have

though seen it done by scum in different ways, and they would also claim they would do it as either alignment (but -again- I've never seen TOWN replacing out over someone being confirmed by mistake, or over someone using a trust tell, or anything if the sort)

You are REALLY tempting me here

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norwee is out here waving a massive neon sign yelling "hi, i'm norwee, and i rolled scum!" this is the most ballsy opportunistic wagon hopping i've seen in a while.

And here is the Golden Paradox that I was townreading so hard that I considered locktowning him. <3

He's dead on the money about NorwegianboyEE's opportunism. It applies to Ban Hydras for sure, and regardless of Gamma's alignment is applicable to Gamma as well. (Gamma as scum? Norwegian's hop-on was an absolute bus. Gamma as town? Norwegian is literally one of the only scum on the wagon, with it being opportunistically hopping on a free mislynch.)

Mastina I like you but this is not it

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Has my life really come to outposting two hydrae

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@echo we've been over that like 5 times I'll quote it for you

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From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla

We've had three basically-masons claimed with extra power roles beyond that either claimed or hinted at.

This aint a heavily-vanilla game.

Thus, five scum.

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speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is an

awful

strategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.

+ fucking 1

So 2194 was /s? I genuinely do not know anymore because of this thread

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Nero and Vecna will both protest to this comparison

no I won't b/c I actully made this same comparison the other game.

my issue with Vecna is two fold. 27 is game advancing content. I could easily see a scum Vecna pooh-poohing my pooh-poohing of potential DS and BM wagons. Also its like, he's saying "page 2 is too early for content, lets stay in RVS!" and I think thats a scummy take.

he's lurking.

Also in our last game together I got onto him for town reading me b/c I have felt like he always scumread me. Is it really outside the realm of possibility that a scum him goes "Nero expects me to scum read him so let me do just that to fool him."

I'm...I know my track record against Vecna is poor but I don't think "nero and vecna will get into it so they are both town!" is a great take.

Isn't he past prod time?

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You can ask Almost50 what happens when I’m more trolly early game then come out late game.

Do you do anything besides self meta?

lynch
this
with
me
pls

Okay also reminder about that word

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Ban Hydras (5): PlusJOYED, DiamondSentinel, Christøpher, samantha97, Gamma Emerald

As much as I hate to let the replace influence anything this is a whole bunch of sus

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From personal experience 4 scum is possible, but it needs to be HEAVILY vanilla

We've had three basically-masons claimed with extra power roles beyond that either claimed or hinted at.

This aint a heavily-vanilla game.

Thus, five scum.

why are we ruling out multiball/3rd party
you're

technically

a third party, why are we ruling out a malicious third party?

I'm not advocating for this post, you asked about it so I quoted it for you

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Agreed, but I'm sure you can understand why someone would want to rep out as town in that situation

Nope, and I haven't seen it done by town before. I

have

though seen it done by scum in different ways, and they would also claim they would do it as either alignment (but -again- I've never seen TOWN replacing out over someone being confirmed by mistake, or over someone using a trust tell, or anything if the sort)

You are REALLY tempting me here

If interested, and you have the time, try having a look at this game. D1 Elements used a trust tell, and who made the most fuss about it? kuribo did. And what did he flip? He was Mafia. I do trust kuribo would be upset about it as either alignment, so I am not questioning his claim on that. What I am saying though is I've only seen it done by scum, and I have never witnessed it being done by town.

back in 2016 (I think) I was modding a game on another site and I made a mistake in the flavour that suggested a slot that has just been replaced might be the Cop, and not even the outed Cop got pissed, but who did? Exactly! The MAFIA RB (albeit having expressed their anger in their PT).

So, I do think people are more likely to get overly upset when mistakes (or what they deem as such) are made against them. Have you ever seen a footballer getting upset the referee awarded them a penalty they didn't deserve??

Not what I meant in that post
But also your very writing this is tilting me because I don't like to win when it's not fair, whether the odds are for or against me. I don't like when people let replace outs etc. influence the game because it just feels like a cheap win. What's the point of playing the game if you're just going to cheat? Like you might not care but you can't see why other people have an issue with that??

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speed-eliming someone because they're replacing out is an

awful

strategy unless it's clearly a scum aligned ragequit because they're getting pressured. I really don't think that anyone can genuinely say that sam's "replacement" smells of that.

+ fucking 1

So 2194 was /s? I genuinely do not know anymore because of this thread

yes sorry 2194 was sarcastic
it's not scummy
but everybody apparently thinks its scummy

Thank you im glad we have another thinking person in this thread

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[*]while using The L Word isn't Against Site rules, if it becomes clear you are not making any effort to use it less i will not let you play in my game, lest you potentially alienate other players

replace me out or modkill me then too; it's the way i play and the vernacular i use and i'm not going to make a conscious effort to change it, especially in a game where i have to post fast as fuck because we've had the thread open for like 96 hours and we're 90 pages deep

sorry for using a word

Well rip

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My thoughts are Samantha is probably scum who stopped caring and TMI knows the slot is town so they know it actually did get confirmed, even if people don’t see it like that.

I've the opposite thought--if samantha thought the game were compromised as scum, samantha would air those grievances with the mod in the scum PT...not in-thread.

That samantha aired that belief in-thread rather than privately is proof that samantha is town.

Can we just stop speculating on replaces and keep it to what they're doing in the actual game

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I think I might know what you’re getting at here mastina

Wouldn't surprise me, I've been incredibly unsubtle about it.

Oh thanks for pointing this out I wasn't aware that Mena was anti town too!

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I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

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I really just love how this town has 0 care for outing PRs i think that will raise our chances of winning, how about we all just massclaim right now

Ok. I claim town smartass. I know too much for my own good. I come fully equipped with a VCA no one understands on day 3 with a scum lynch that's not a guilty.

I really hate to be the L-word police but I'm just gonna keep putting reminders

And in that case I claim third-party aligned town, I'm town but my wincon is only satisfied when a 3rd party wins

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Superbowl, did a cat bite your tongue?

?

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Oops missed that, no sadly that means i can only win when scum wins because all third parties are scum

So like my role is green but im scum basically

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Agree mostly but i dont think norway is scum. His wagon is more justified than the other two tho

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But also don’t agree with the conclusion that it’s because of scum motivation necessarily, mostly because ik A50 is not scum and hopped to samantha

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You know i dont like VCA so ill leave that to you

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I think you have a better chance of survival if you just don’t post plus

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also
UNVOTE: ban hydras
VOTE: jjh

As much as i would love to elim there how is this a helpful action

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E-3, it was 6 then nero echo and mena hopped on. Mastina was already on it

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Nah you definitely miscounted bro... it’s E-10

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also question
i dont use l word but i like saying lylo, is that ok
elo sounds like matchmaking rank

I think people are trying to migrate away from all these terms in general, so if you remember to there’s no harm in replacing what you can

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Because the wagon went too fast and there were no counterwagons

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Because the wagon went too fast and there were no counterwagons

There ARE counterwagons.
Jesus.

Lol i dont agree with this sentiment just reporting back the bs reasons others have given

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shellyc replaces samantha97

jesus christ like we needed more heavy posters

True we need more people to lurk and contribute nothing

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facts matey he walks the plank today

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Guys this wagon is too easy. Gamma must be town. There was no resistance!

The funniest thing about this is he almost got away with it too. Keep your eyes on everyone who hopped off on that samantha train (except A50). I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

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@Gamma, Talk to us to get Menalque lynched. You have a limited amount of time. I gotta go but it would be real helpful if you cased him, even with insider info if you have it.

I 100% agree with him and if im alive tomorrow i’ll explain exactly why

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Because the wagon went too fast and there were no counterwagons

I'm assuming that's your reasoning and not Taylor's.

Have you been reading the thread....?

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(I am genuinely sorry if this was an unpleasant experience for you)

This ggs

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Guys this wagon is too easy. Gamma must be town. There was no resistance!

The funniest thing about this is he almost got away with it too. Keep your eyes on everyone who hopped off on that samantha train (except A50). I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

oi, I'll have you know I was the 2nd biggest advocate of the samantha wagon.

I also still think she could have been scum, and scum decided it would be better to sacrifice Gamma.

Nahhhhhhh that’s an awful long shot
I’m pretty sure I’m just spitting absolute facts this game

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Guys this wagon is too easy. Gamma must be town. There was no resistance!

The funniest thing about this is he almost got away with it too. Keep your eyes on everyone who hopped off on that samantha train (except A50). I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

Yeah, Gamma was counterwagoned

hard

. A lot of juicy VCA to examine.
Titus must be salivating.

~Buttercup

All I can say is Nero Nero Nero. He authored the book on gamma wagonomics and theres some stuff from early game to analyze from him. Put him under a microscope for me if I’m not back tomorrow norway.

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Guys this wagon is too easy. Gamma must be town. There was no resistance!

The funniest thing about this is he almost got away with it too. Keep your eyes on everyone who hopped off on that samantha train (except A50). I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

oi, I'll have you know I was the 2nd biggest advocate of the samantha wagon.

I also still think she could have been scum, and scum decided it would be better to sacrifice Gamma.

Nahhhhhhh that’s an awful long shot
I’m pretty sure I’m just spitting absolute facts this game

Mena would be the best/most interesting flip tomorrow but im gonna have to work hard to get it done

ah well i dont care, let's just celebrate this for now. Also, if you and Almost50 are scum, that means we might be 3/4 of the way to a town win if Gamma's claim was legit.

I think flipping Menalque tomorrow though unfortunately.

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Whoops lol on mobile

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Guys this wagon is too easy. Gamma must be town. There was no resistance!

The funniest thing about this is he almost got away with it too. Keep your eyes on everyone who hopped off on that samantha train (except A50). I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

oi, I'll have you know I was the 2nd biggest advocate of the samantha wagon.

I also still think she could have been scum, and scum decided it would be better to sacrifice Gamma.

Nahhhhhhh that’s an awful long shot
I’m pretty sure I’m just spitting absolute facts this game

ah well i dont care, let's just celebrate this for now. Also, if you and Almost50 are scum, that means we might be 3/4 of the way to a town win if Gamma's claim was legit.

I think flipping Menalque tomorrow though unfortunately.

Mena would be the best/most interesting flip tomorrow but im gonna have to work hard to get it done

^thats what it was supoosed to be

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Hear me out yall:

What if its a multiball with gamma, nero, etc as scum and those on BH as 3P, switching out mena for someone on BH??

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Lookin forward to it if we get the chance BM

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regardless of gammas flip norwegian is still scum

and im not even sure gamma will flip red is is he being cheeky

Welcome back!!! Forgot about this guy but he’s scum too

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otoh. Mena and to a lwesser extent suberbowl, trying to rush a Gamma lynch looks p bad to me.

Yes PLEASE continue Nero about how I’m scum for leading and maintaining a scum flip against YOUR counterwagon

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Everyone who popped into this thread once gamma flipped is sus (april and DDL)

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lol @ sb pretending like he LEAD the Gamma lynch

LMAO check the thread buddy! Who was the one pushing gamma and who was the one complaining about wagonomics?? Who was the one arguing against counterwagons and who was the one who dipped for one?

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sorry my not playing mafia for a day is scum indicative to you

It’s okay your red flip will justify me

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Im saving you for later buddy

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Nope you’re gonna NEED that town cred tomorrow, and I won’t let you steal any of mine. Also I like how everythings a joke as soon as you’re shown to be wrong

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*was elimmed

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The judges will wagon

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True and we wouldn’t even have to change the pfp, the owl you’ve got in there looks pretty superb

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lol sb is so sore that I noticed his tone was diffrent from last game.

Yep now that you have been pushed you are laughing & above it all. Don’t worry nero I will have the last laugh when I flip you. Just don’t nk me to try to run away

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I would have to agree besides the OOG stuff yall have been really fun

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^can someone shoot this guy tonight

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Also just noticed but it would make no sense to claim what we did if we were survivor lol

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If me and A50 make it to yelo we will be unstoppable

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Mena would be the best/most interesting flip tomorrow but im gonna have to work hard to get it done

It won’t be happening but I guess you can dream my dude

We'll see

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This is just another incorrect read for me on Gamma.

I seem to remember you claiming a high accuracy rate on gamma previously

No it's 100% because gamma always uses the word dog at least once when he's scum. Don't believe me just meta him

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Also I haven't seen this performance between you two in theatres yet, any indication when it'll hit broadway?

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Why am I scum superbowl

Pretty sure I made a post abt this

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I do theatre as town

I only use this pfp when I'm telling the truth

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Why am I scum superbowl

Pretty sure I made a post abt this

Thought you said you were gonna explain tomorrow but I could have missed it

Nah iso me its a spoiler with your name

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1214

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I dont wanna debate you about it now tho we'll have fun with it tomorrow

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So you guys intend to post another 100 pages in twilight? Let me know if anything worthy to note happens in the PT, sb.

Will do! Scum might nk me just to get rid of the only person willing to keep up with this thread

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I dont wanna debate you about it now tho we'll have fun with it tomorrow

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How do you believe a large theme works, superbowl?

Whoever can get the most posts wins right?

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Looking forward to when I have more posts than both hydras combined

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Superbowl9 I am worried your goal is to hyperpost to hide things.

Should I hold an AMA?

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Superbowl9 I am worried your goal is to hyperpost to hide things.

Should I hold an AMA?

Why would you fake claim with A50? I saw his crumbs and you aren't afraid of death? I am not thinking you're scum but I am curious.

There's no way in hell I would let A50 convince me to fakeclaim
But no I really am not afraid of death

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I will be bold and say almost all scum was on a counterwagon

I'll be bold and say that, while that might be true for some parts of the game, by the end of the day with the final Gamma wagon, most of the scumteam was bussing Gamma. Maybe not all four, but most--at least 2, possibly 3.

Agree

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Wait no take that back SOME not most, I put it at 2

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Without Menalque hard-pushing for Gamma's death, we might not have ousted Gamma D1.

Bruh? He left for a counterwagon....

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Superbowl9 you ok?

Thanks for checking in I took a shower

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Mastina I think we can lead a townbloc together as long as we're don't argue too much

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Superbowl9 I am worried your goal is to hyperpost to hide things.

Should I hold an AMA?

Why would you fake claim with A50? I saw his crumbs and you aren't afraid of death? I am not thinking you're scum but I am curious.

There's no way in hell I would let A50 convince me to fakeclaim
But no I really am not afraid of death

Why should I believe you're masons when A50 is crumbing roles? He's trying to bait a nightkill and your bragging is trying to do the same. Masons should try to live.

Does your wincon flip or do we just have to trust you?

Nope just trust me

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also im kinda worried everyone is forming townblocks and im gonna eat lunch alone like middle school all over again.
can someone block with me pls

You already have a PT to go to fam

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Mastina I think we can lead a townbloc together as long as we're don't argue too much

Sure, don't try to lynch any of my locktowns or strong townreads and we can work together to sort the rest.

I never get the exact solve, so you can probably get a better lockdown of things, so long as you're willing to accept that people like Nero and Menalque are locktown.

L word if you don't mind

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Menalque if scum would've never left the wagon, because leaving the wagon means Menalque loses all of the towncred from having pushed it at all.

This is HILARIOUS so he loses the towncred that you're giving him rn??

But we will discuss this tomorrow

pedit yep i don't fault you for it

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We already know you're scum

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What can you say about your flip? What is the name of your faction?

Already quoted what i would flip, our faction is just the role name with an s at the end

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I’m gonna claim.

I’m an investigative role.

I’m not gonna be able to confirm myself as town this game, and I’m sure I’m not the only investigative out there considering the usage.

Wow great claim! I love it!

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GOLIATH GOUTHWITS HEALTH INTERNS

Just for you my friend

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I’m gonna claim.

I’m an investigative role.

I’m not gonna be able to confirm myself as town this game, and I’m sure I’m not the only investigative out there considering the usage.

Wow great claim! I love it!

This guy seems to not be able to comprehend beyond a surface level, I would steer away from letting them lead late game.

They’re fine here.

Wow! Great analysis, I love it! Loved your gamma town take as well!

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I will say join date clout matters so much on how the gamestate gets perceived.

It’s different when people who are familiar with me, but people who aren’t just treat April Ludgate so poorly, and in a way where I could do the exact same thing on a different account with an earlier join date, and it’s just so different.

I’ve been studying this for years now.

Nope you were worse when you were overkill

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Like seriously, stfu dude.

Sorry didn't mean to piss you off this much but I really didn't like that claim or your play so far

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Lol but if you're trolling then can't you see why I would be mad if I'm trying to actually win?

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Lol can I troll you one more time I think it would be really funny

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But I can be serious if you're actually being frank with me

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April feels town. Superbowl9 feels threatened.

This is what I get for trying to be nice ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Fr tho April I only play with what i know in the moment, I don't really care about join date, track record, self meta, etc. I call out bad play when I see it. If I think you're playing bad I will call you out. I'm not saying you're a bad player, but in my experience you have made bad plays. If you want to explain to me postgame why your twilight investigative claim was actually 5head feel free but if I disagree I'll disagree. That doesn't mean I'm out to get you or think you're trash though.

Pedit: oh okay then prepare yourself for the pasta

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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little newbscum? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in TOS, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on EpicMafia, and I have over 300 confirmed wins. I am trained in self-meta and I have the top winrate in the entire newbie forum. You are nothing to me but just another sig quote. I will WIFOM the fuck out of you with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this forum, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me in a large? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of mods across the USA and your alignement is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your wincon. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be in any game, anytime, and I can elim you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just without my gambits. Not only am I extensively trained in directing NKs, but I have access to an entire arsenal of player meta and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of my game, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" overkill comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have tried to pedit. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shitpost all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

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^shouldve included something in there about not being able to make bad plays because I simply use my overwhelming charisma to win anyways

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april claimed investigative in twilight huh

Yes but it was a good play because scum can't kill someone with 500iq

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april claimed investigative in twilight huh

Yes but it was a good play because scum can't kill someone with 500iq

Unless I actually want them to kill me, which is possible here.

Ah yes I forgot, silly fallible me.
Well let's all use our town PRs to protect and investigate april, and once everyone realizes her genius we can just sheep into an easy victory. After all they're an endgame player

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I actually had decided to target Super Bowl when I asked them if I could coast until Day 4 in like my 2nd post in the game, so it’s hilarious all this is happening.

If you think that was a push I've got news for you

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You must have gotten the name wrong BM, that was an April post

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I actually had decided to target Super Bowl when I asked them if I could coast until Day 4 in like my 2nd post in the game, so it’s hilarious all this is happening.

If you think that was a push I've got news for you

When did I say I thought that was a push?

Here you go

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ngl guys im kinda lost.
how do you all feel about the samantha slot

Don't worry you'll make it to endgame so you won't need to think for a while

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my suslist is sam, norwee, diamond rn

Okay ty

Who's your favorite smasher btw

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Totus

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my suslist is sam, norwee, diamond rn

Okay ty

Who's your favorite smasher btw

melee: m2k / mango
ult: void / dabuz
i used to like nairo but

Good man

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I think if yall were put into a game where you were not allowed to use "X always does Y when they're Z alignment" you wouldn't be able to post anything

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Maybe he's just an M name hater/masochist? Be right back with a "Mitus" avatar

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Can we make it to a 40 page twilight??

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Can't we all just get along for one twilight? Let's just play a happy family game of monopoly

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Let me just tell you all - I rolled scum in Isis' "Pastry Party Pandemonium" Large and in that game I made all of the opposite tells that I made this game. I know some people here don't believe in self-meta, but I have a 100% accuracy rate on it

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I detected motion from Titus

Can we please stop outright claiming? I literally just said so above. Titus if scum is a master scum. You don’t need to give her any outs. We still hadn’t resolved the last one where someone claimed loyal/disloyal. I seriously told you how to do it.

You don’t understand April simply wifoms scum into losses so it doesnt really matter what any of us do

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The replaces came in and just led this discussion into a toilet bowl

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Off top MM her reads were consistent with this yestersay

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I can’t really thoroughly catch up and react to this for a few hours but Im sussing Tswift

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the reason it's difficult to comprehend is that it means if you are town, a50, then we have six masons.

I’ve been seeing a lot of people say this. FFS WE ARE NOT MASONS. We are A THIRD PARTY. We are NOT conftown to you. I assume titus’ group is the same to whatever extent. Saying 6 masons is too many is #1 wayyyyyyy too simplified and #2 just wrong, a town-aligned 3P just does not play out the same way masons would.

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There’s a lot of claims out there to be sorted but right now we have de facto yours as the only proven one.

How is April’s claim proven?

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There’s a lot of claims out there to be sorted but right now we have de facto yours as the only proven one.

How is April’s claim proven?

April claimed to motion detect Titus.
Titus confirmed by saying she neighborized A50.

That’s soft no?

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Is anyone else finding this brother/sister/april analysis to be unreadable

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Can we stop wagoning someone until all the muck is waded through?
Like shelly hasnt even confirmed the night action yet...

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And pi for the love of god can you use spoilers

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@Superbowl9, Sorry. I'll try to be more readable. Why is it unreadable?

The sheer amount of content, some relevant/solvey, some AI, is a lot especially with these multiquote walls, pretty sure yall just put up ~10 pages to tell us.... what exactly?
Also while I have your ear wanna remind you and bro to try to use alternatives to the L-word

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Not sure how you get no out of that.

Someone made a claim. Person confirmed it true.

No as in “that’s a soft confirm right”
I don’t think thats any more confirmed than the 6 “mason” roles

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@Superbowl9, Sorry. I'll try to be more readable. Why is it unreadable?

The sheer amount of content, some relevant/solvey, some AI, is a lot especially with these multiquote walls, pretty sure yall just put up ~10 pages to tell us.... what exactly?
Also while I have your ear wanna remind you and bro to try to use alternatives to the L-word

I have been trying to use execution. Is that not the standard word? If not what do you recommend?

No execution’s fine, but you both have used the L-word multiple times in the past few pages so just a friendly reminder about it

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@Superbowl9, Sorry. I'll try to be more readable. Why is it unreadable?

The sheer amount of content, some relevant/solvey, some AI, is a lot especially with these multiquote walls, pretty sure yall just put up ~10 pages to tell us.... what exactly?
Also while I have your ear wanna remind you and bro to try to use alternatives to the L-word

Sometimes solving, particularly in my happier moods, tends to be more voluminous. I'll try to watch that and using the word "lynch". To be fair to Math, he hasn't played since we're transitioning away from that word. I have no excuse.

It’s okay pretty sure I have slipped up this game as well. I understand just want to do my part reminding after the D1 shennanagins

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What makes you think 3P is not likely when we have a 3P scumteam???? None of us are masons. We use masons because it is an easy turn of phrase that has now because confusing. We are 3P with town’s wincon. Titus I can’t speak for but I highly doubt they are masons

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^sorry for no quote that was @math man

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Why can’t we know your 3p wincon if you’re with us?

Cant expect us to trust you if you can’t share the trust back.

Are you talking to me?

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What makes you think 3P is not likely when we have a 3P scumteam???? None of us are masons. We use masons because it is an easy turn of phrase that has now because confusing. We are 3P with town’s wincon. Titus I can’t speak for but I highly doubt they are masons

Confused.

3P with town wincon = town plus. You have town wincon plus something else.

Otherwise you’re just town not 3P.

The distinction exists for a reason.

What makes you say a 3P scum team exists? This could be an SK (not a team, jjh top theory if true) multiball or a vig

Like help me connect your dots here

I will give you an ELI5 because you do seem very confused. Me, A50, and someone else are goliath gouthwits health interns. This is NOT town, it is a 3P which flips and returns investigations as our 3P (GGHI). Our win condition is the same as town’s, we win when all threats to town are eliminated. Thus we are FUNCTIONALLY miller masons, which is why that’s what A50 claimed.

Gamma flipped as a NON town aligned 3P (which he claimed was scum, while also saying there may be multiball. You can look at this as WIFOM if you want). Cop investigation checked against this non-town 3P.

Titus is apparently 3P neighborizer with Nero and mastina who recruited A50. A50 now has access to both PTs and is trying to sort through this whole mess. Do you understand?

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So.... THERE ARE NO MASONS. Mason is only a functional term here. We don’t want to type goliath health interns or whatever titus’ party is called so we use masons all knowing that there are not actually any mason roles here. Get it?

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I'd like to work with them, but I need them to share their wincon
peddit: so Titus, when recruiting A50, you just gained A50. A50 has 2 partners and didn't neighborize?

To clarify we (GGHI) are not neighborizers, we are unpowered besides our PT. It’s titus’ group that neighborized 1 of our members

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I would like to revisit the mason thing later. Their story has changed a bit so im confused. Did Titus neighborize someone?
If they started with 3 and now have 6 I don't understand.

GGGI’s story has been consistent the whole time, we are figuring out the Titus thing give us time.

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Partially. In my experience I don’t recall just Miller masons. It’s always been Miller masons plus. Stevens Universe IIRC was town win plus one regular town alive.

You say Gamma flipped non town aligned 3P. What makes you say 3P and not scum? I don’t follow this. There was a public cop saying someone is not of Gamma’s alignment. Are you suggesting Gamma was 3P and not scum and therefore no scum are dead?

Then Titus is another 3P?

That’s an awful lot of 3P claims.

Again i hope you understand that we are not actually miller masons. Titus’ group I am fairly certain claimed 3P similar to us, not town. I might be wrong on that though (@Titus).

Literally look at the gamma flip. It’s not red but the third party yellow. I’m suggesting we are 100% multiballing to some extent, but that gamma’s faction was definitely “scum” much like we are “town”. Idk if there is a true red scumteam to eliminate, but that sounds like kind of a technicality. Gamma’s wincon was (presumably) not town-friendly

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so superbowl, your role is a third party yellow? alternatively, every faction that is not town could be yellow.

Yes and yes. This is what I’m saying idk if there are red groups or not or if gamma’s group is the only “scum” group but I do know (or think i know) that gammas group is “scum” to some extent

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But why are we wagoning someone in this situation??? We need to wait for more clarity here

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I have already claimed my wincon multiple times...

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Idk why you are acting like we have been keeping it a secret we claimed our full wincon like wayyyyyy back. Titus’s group idk about tho

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^plus care to tell us what this means for shelly?

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Also mena and BH are dead shelly...

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April i would wait on arguments because she might be confscum

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I mean tbf this is one case where revisionism/misunderstanding is understandable. She caught up on >3000 posts and apparently doesn’t even know who the NKs were

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Not the conclusion i reached april but ik you have some very... unorthodox conclusions

Pedit: ik math man this is why i am needed in this thread

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Why are we voting??? Plus still has to confirm this he could very well soft inno her

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Actually if we all claim then I'll be able to know the setup so I think we should all claim

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Don't worry about outing PRs we can just WIFOM scum

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is shelly an intern superbowl

Dont ask us this Tswift already narrowed POE

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Have a midterm so officially peacing until tomorrow afternoon. Don't do anything too crazy while I'm gone *queue my quickelim*

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Sorry i lied taking a quick break

Sorry for messing up your wifom A50

@something smart, we literally share your wincon. It’s not difficult.

LMAO at Nero’s “all 3Ps should be treated as scum”, you’re more scummy than us now fam

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Also I was mocking april when I said we should massclaim pls don’t do that...

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Yeah, but you were mocking a mock post, so it just made you come off like you weren’t mocking to them

Yes I thought we were having a good laugh back there maybe we can be buddies

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On another note can we elim DDL

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You guys are 3rd party claiming, we can go after you all we want.

but if you are town you shouldn't be. When we lynched the rest of the kings army and the game is still ongoing then we can talk about lynching between our groups but if a50 is telling the truth then it won't.

I like the COMPLETE about face from yesterday
Also L-word reminder

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im counting a50 and SB. Even if they do win with the town I feel like anything that's not TOWN is scum. There are those that say that a 3p that can win with town aren't scum but I don't really buy into that philosophy.

my thoughts on 3p always being scum despite being able to win with town are consistent throughout my time on site.

imagine thinking that a claimed 3p is town.

superbowl and a50 but they win with the town and ONLY the town, they promise.

Queue your claim:

I feel like you and april and whomever pushing us has a good chance of being scum b/c hunting 3p is a pro-scum move.

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The main question is why the 3Ps gathered on Gamma and why Mastina hopped on later and who moved and why.

Because we are town and Gamma was scummy

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Great minds think alike nero

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my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

WE DID ARE YOU READING THE GAME

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the majority of players will be town

. everyone is multitasking. private topics will generally always be open. there is no redirection. if you can think of something similar to redirection, it's probably not in this. this is also generally unlike a role madness game - plenty of people will be vanilla or almost vanilla.

roles will flip with their name and alignment, with clarifications added for certain unfamiliar things.

makes me think some (?) masons arent masons and there is no traditional scum

Oh. My. God. Can we just sticky an explanation post of what is going on in the game?

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my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.

This role and 6 masons, wtf, no.

Also, if Shelly is scum here who received the cop invention, they would know not to say it.

You and I should target the same player.

WE ARE 3RD PARTIES AND TITUS’ GROUP HAS A (VERY HARD) NON-TOWN WINCON ALONGSIDE THEIR WINCON. THIS IS NOT AT ALL IMPROBABLE SETUP WISE. DO NOT LOOK AT THIS AS 6 MASONS.

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What is your full wincon?

Respectfully, this is something that is only pro-scum to share.

If Almost50's group feels differently, if any of them feel it is pro-town to have it known publicly, then they have the ability to out it as we did disclose our full wincon to Almost50, but in my opinion it doesn't help the town to know publicly and does help the scum.

Agreed

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@shellyc if you iso me and A50’s recent posts you will not ask questions that have already been answered (hopefully)

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Again 6 masons different faction claim. But if you will never vote for her group and she will never vote yours that would be de facto masons for balancing the setup. I just want to stage a raid on all the private fucking PTs this game and raid them and make them all go public in this cluster fuck

This is NOT the case. Check titus at the end of D1. Check Nero’s rhetoric on us all of D1. We are not meant to be one happy coexisting big masonglob. It’s only due to the efforts of some of our members that we are cooperating. It would not be pro-town to reveal all of titus’ group’s info to you, but I can confirm they told us about the plus thing and it seems legit. What benefit does it do them to lie about having one full role title????

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VOTE: April

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I feel like if we were in the same PT we’d get along so well mastina

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I feel like if we were in the same PT we’d get along so well mastina

You can just have your buddy A50 relay it to you.

We need actual goddamn town in Titus’s hood.

So some of this shit can get cleared up.

WE ARE TOWN BRO FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES
We’re townier than you atm so idk why you are complaining as though you’re going to somehow put a confirmed town in their hood? And act like they will tell you anything different than what is already being said. But when someone else gets neighborized and says the EXACT SAME THING as us you will look back at this and say it was dumb

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Mathblade think for 2 seconds about this:
If you had setup info that could help catch scum, would you reveal it and lose all chance of catching scum because someone is butthurt they don’t have your info in main thread???

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You can’t know that any given neighborized person is town dude. You can either doubt our wincon or you can doubt someone else’s alignment AND wincon, which do you prefer? Unless you think we can get norway in the hood in which case I think you may have other issues

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Now think about this math: do you think COMBINED titus, mastina, and Nero have enough mafia experience to be able to recognize when it is good or bad to give out info?

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Plus read what mastina has said about april please