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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 1724, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1720, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1719, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1718, bob3141 wrote:targeted taylor and she has no gun
if youd just asked i would have told you that
im surprised Bob targetted you. from his POV, wouldn't you be most likely to be Mafia Doctor anyway? Just by virtue of being the only so-called "unconfirmed PR". I'm assuming mafia doc here has a slightly higher propensity to claim PR as a deterrent.
didnt really put much thought into it.


happy to start day 3 with me pointing that i was 100% rigth that bm and taylor are never partners :-P
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:27 am

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I feel like Pooky is the best shot to flip scum. I don't see their posts contributing much.
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:28 am

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I no longer have that much faith the game is locked either. Looks like a vig will only be a hindrance here.
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:29 am

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Maybe it won't change much if vig ends up killing tonight though assuming they follow the PoE. Say we mislynch in the PoE again, we'll have to lynch in the PoE anyway if the vig doesn't shoot.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:29 am

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Also there's a chance we may end up going back to odds again
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:45 am

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Taylor and BM are not partners confirmed. I like that, I was town reading Battle Mage anyways now, so that's good.

Taylor is a little townier now because I expected them to not be Maf Doctor if they are scum, but they still have that chance.

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I personally town read Battle Mage, and I want to town read Taylor.

I say fade Gamma. If Gamma flips town, then it's in the 4, one will be shot, then it'll be in the 3. and I just think BM is town here. so it'll be in the 2 left in the POE alive, meaning if we don't hit scum, then we still win if BM is town.

And honestly, I think Gamma flips scum.

If Gamma is scum doctor, then Battle Mage and Taylor are CONFIRMED town, meaning final scum is in Creature/Pooky.

If Gamma is scum not doctor, then damn scum is in the 4, but we have a pretty good scenario going,.

Okay, so here's what I think the plan should be.

If Gamma flips scum doctor, gunsmith Pooky, I'm shooting Creature. Ydrasse doctors Bob.
If Gamma flips scum not doctor, gunsmith becomes irrelevant, I'm shooting Taylor. Ydrasse doctors Flavor Leaf.
If Gamma is town, gunsmith Creature, I'm shooting Taylor. Ydrasse doctors 1 of me and Bob, they don't say it out loud.

In theory, if Battle Mage is town, this always wins us the game, but this is a big if.

I personally think the team is Creature and Gamma or Gamma and Taylor.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 am

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In post 1730, Flavor Leaf wrote:If Gamma flips scum not doctor,
I'm shooting Taylor
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:47 am

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Wouldn't it be better to let Taylor have a result?
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 1725, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1724, bob3141 wrote:
In post 1720, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1719, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1718, bob3141 wrote:targeted taylor and she has no gun
if youd just asked i would have told you that
im surprised Bob targetted you. from his POV, wouldn't you be most likely to be Mafia Doctor anyway? Just by virtue of being the only so-called "unconfirmed PR". I'm assuming mafia doc here has a slightly higher propensity to claim PR as a deterrent.
didnt really put much thought into it.


happy to start day 3 with me pointing that i was 100% rigth that bm and taylor are never partners :-P
ok can you vote for someone please?
whats the rush :-P


i know its bad habit but i do always tend to delay voting until mid day. like to have 2-3 days to think on my vote.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:53 am

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5 candidates for scum left

If we lynch scum today:

4 candidates left, one is shot, the other is tracked. Tomorrow should be a 1v1 between Taylor and someone else with 6 players alive and two lynches.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:53 am

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We need to lynch scum today to autowin.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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Day 1 VC's.

Spoiler:
1.1
Johnny
(3) : Battle Mage,
TheGoldenParadox
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bob3141
[E-4]
Battle Mage (2) : PookyTheMagicalBear, Tayl0r Swift
Ydrasse (1) :Johnny

shellyc (1) : osuka

PookyTheMagicalBear (1) :
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MiniMegabyte (1) : Ydrasse

Flavor Leaf
(1) : Creature

Not voting (3):
shellyc, Flavor Leaf,
Gamma Emerald


1.2
Johnny
(3) : Battle Mage,
TheGoldenParadox
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bob3141
[E-4]
Ydrasse (2) : Johnny, shellyc

shellyc (2) : osuka,
PookyTheMagicalBear
PookyTheMagicalBear (1) :
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MiniMegabyte (1) : Ydrasse

TheGoldenParadox
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Battle Mage (1) : Tayl0r Swift
Flavor Leaf
(1) : Creature

Not voting (1):
Flavor Leaf


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shellyc (4) : osuka,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
TheGoldenParadox,
MiniMegabyte
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Ydrasse (2) : Johnny, shellyc

MiniMegabyte (2) : Ydrasse,
Battle Mage
Johnny (1) : bob3141

TheGoldenParadox
(1) : Gamma Emerald
Battle Mage (1) : Tayl0r Swift

Not voting (2):
Flavor Leaf
, Creature



1.4
shellyc (7) : osuka,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
TheGoldenParadox,
MiniMegabyte,
Battle Mage, Gamma Emerald,
Ydrasse
[E-0]
Ydrasse (2) : Johnny, shellyc

Battle Mage (2) : Tayl0r Swift,
bob3141


Not voting (2):
Flavor Leaf,
Creature


gamma being on Golden for a bit, only to vote shelly in the end like that alongside golden probably locks them as scum. Then it's probably with Pooky. Creature/Taylor are the backups.

We can also get auto win if I shoot scum doctor tonight, so there are other options. I'll do Day 2 next.
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 pm

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Taylor is 1 shot tracker claim.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:02 pm

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If Gamma is scum, they made the kill last night 100% of the time.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:17 pm

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Day 2 VC's.

Spoiler:
2.1
Gamma Emerald (2): Battle Mage,
bob3141
[E-4]
Tayl0r Swift (2):
JohnnyFarrar, Flavor Leaf
[E-4]
Battle Mage (1): Tayl0r Swift

Not voting (6):
osuka, Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte,
Creature, Gamma Emerald


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Tayl0r Swift (4):
JohnnyFarrar, Flavor Leaf,
Gamma Emerald,
bob3141
[E-2]
Battle Mage (1): Tayl0r Swift
Flavor Leaf
(1): Battle Mage

Not voting (5):
osuka, Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte
, Creature


2.3
Battle Mage (2): Tayl0r Swift, Gamma Emerald [E-4]
Tayl0r Swift (2):
JohnnyFarrar, Flavor Leaf
[E-4]
Flavor Leaf (1): Battle Mage

Not voting (6):
osuka, Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte
, Creature,
bob3141


2.4
Battle Mage (2): Tayl0r Swift, Gamma Emerald [E-4]
Tayl0r Swift (2):
JohnnyFarrar
, Creature [E-4]
Flavor Leaf
(1): Battle Mage

Not voting (6):
osuka, Ydrasse
, PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte, bob3141, Flavor Leaf


2.5
bob3141 (4): Flavor Leaf,
Tayl0r Swift,
JohnnyFarrar, osuka
[E-2]
Tayl0r Swift (2): Creature, Battle Mage
osuka (1): bob3141

Battle Mage (1): Gamma Emerald

Not voting (3):
Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte



2.6
Battle Mage (2): Gamma Emerald, Tayl0r Swift [E-4]
bob3141 (2): Flavor Leaf, osuka
[E-4]
Tayl0r Swift (2): Creature, Battle Mage [E-4]
osuka (1): bob3141



Not voting (4):
Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte, JohnnyFarrar


2.7
Tayl0r Swift (2): Creature, Battle Mage [E-4]
osuka (1): bob3141

Battle Mage (1): Gamma Emerald
bob3141 (1): osuka

Gamma Emerald (1): Tayl0r Swift

Not voting (5):
Ydrasse,
PookyTheMagicalBear,
MiniMegabyte, JohnnyFarrar, Flavor Leaf


2.8
osuka (4): bob3141,
Creature,
Flavor Leaf,
PookyTheMagicalBear [E-2]
Battle Mage (2): Tayl0r Swift, Gamma Emerald
bob3141 (1): osuka

Gamma Emerald (1): Battle Mage

Not voting (3):
Ydrasse, MiniMegabyte, JohnnyFarrar


2.9
osuka (5): bob3141, Flavor Leaf,
Tayl0r Swift, PookyTheMagicalBear,
JohnnyFarrar
[E-1]
PookyTheMagicalBear (1):
osuka

Battle Mage (1): Gamma Emerald

Not voting (4):
Ydrasse, MiniMegabyte,
Creature, Battle Mage


2.10
osuka (6): bob3141, Flavor Leaf,
Tayl0r Swift, PookyTheMagicalBear,
JohnnyFarrar,
Battle Mage [E-0]
PookyTheMagicalBear (1):
osuka

Battle Mage (1): Gamma Emerald

Not voting (3):
Ydrasse, MiniMegabyte,
Creature


First off, Gamma on 2.2 on Taylor as only non confirmed town is something. Then they switch to Battle Mage alongside Taylor. That is a possible Gamma/Taylor.

2.5 does the opposite and only Taylor is not green so far on Bob, while Creature went on Taylor now that it's died down a bit.

Creature also jumps off of Osuka when it starts to pick up steam, Creature/Gamma are the only 2 off the wagon. Is Osuka a potential all town wagon? I think so, but Pooky jump there also makes sense as scum, but I feel this is likely a 1 off wagon, 1 on situation.

Idk. I think Gamma looks poor on VCA from both days.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:26 pm

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Creature/Gamma
Gamma/Taylor
Pooky/Taylor
Pooky/Gamma

I think it has to be one of these. I don't think Creature and Taylor slots would both be off of the Day 1 wagon, so at least 1 of Pooky and Gamma are scum, possibly both.

Gamma targeting Battle Mage who was in a 1v1 with Taylor also makes sense for a Gamma Chainsaw defending Taylor buddy.

Gamma/Creature if it was only 1 scum on the Shelly wagon, and Taylor is town.

I think we full send Gamma 100% of the time today, and go from there. If Gamma is scum doctor, Taylor and Battle Mage are confirmed town.

if gamma is scum, but not doctor, I'm shooting Taylor. Then Pooky/Creature we go after.
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:27 pm

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I'm okay having the game go to Creature/Battle Mage 50/50, i think, if need be. ScumCreature will put up a better fight than townBattle Mage, keep that in mind.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:28 pm

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as long as the team isnt exactly Creature/Battle Mage, then we likely auto win this game.
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:29 pm

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VC 2.5, 2.6, and 2.7, Creature and Battle Mage are voting together against Taylor, i think that might indicate that they aren't teammates considering other wagons were on town.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 1741, Flavor Leaf wrote:ScumCreature will put up a better fight than townBattle Mage, keep that in mind.
pfft yeah right :roll:
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 1730, Flavor Leaf wrote:Okay, so here's what I think the plan should be.

If Gamma flips scum doctor, gunsmith Pooky, I'm shooting Creature. Ydrasse doctors Bob.
If Gamma flips scum not doctor, gunsmith becomes irrelevant, I'm shooting Taylor. Ydrasse doctors Flavor Leaf.
If Gamma is town, gunsmith Creature, I'm shooting Taylor. Ydrasse doctors 1 of me and Bob, they don't say it out loud.
I say we go with this.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:31 pm

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could switch Pooky/Creature for the first scenario.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:32 pm

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In post 1737, Flavor Leaf wrote:Taylor is 1 shot tracker claim.
Oh?
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:32 pm

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im fine with going along with this. although if we do lose this game, im blaming it entirely on this whole massclaim, mechsolve plan.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:33 pm

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In post 1739, Flavor Leaf wrote:Creature also jumps off of Osuka when it starts to pick up steam
Pretty sure I jumped off of it when there was nightplan yet to be done.
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