Bad Idea Mafia III: Still Bad, Less Broken [GAME OVER]

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kill: shellyc

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Hi everyone

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I didn't hit a cop and shelly is an easy miselim and decent scum so I'm calling it a D1 win

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Hey murderkitty

Hey PP hope you're town with me

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I just want to also say that based on the limited thinking I've done about the setup we should all consider ourselves to be 1 shot day vigs at least until late endgame, so I won't be shooting again

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I'd much rather just hear your reasons and see if they make you scum

Did you just respond to yourself..?

I don't think so but this really confused me

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We should also be carefully considering who we are asking to take shots, that is basically extra cop shots

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dont wanna get into it too much but we dont know if the goons can daykill

@mod: do we know if goons can shoot?

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Better to ask and confirm we don't know

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I feel like if we knew the goons couldn't day kill you'd be dead MURDERCAT, so perhaps be happy we don't know

I was surprised I didn't die but it makes sense to cop hunt too right?

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I'm a little bummed tbh I thought I IC'd myself

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I think if we are gonna preclaim it should come later, right now it's just easy frames

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Scum can only kill 1 cop and odds of hitting are still low

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How do we start this game?

VOTE: the worst

For being weirdly absent

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ok, this is a good start so i'll bite

is it weird for the worst in particular to be absent? or are you just picking from the list of lurkers at random? because there's like 5 or 6 people who haven't posted

legit question; I don't know anyone's meta as I think I previously mentioned

The worst is fairly active in general so I would expect him to be around by now to try to get something in in case the day ends early but maybe he's busy

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I expect there might be a dead thread post to that effect

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Lol I was confused

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@pf we already are making it harder for cops with the hypo, I do think there is potential benefit but only at like D4

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MurderCat, you said you didn't want to shoot again. However, there might be benefit in you shooting at the 24 hour mark (or after that at least). Since you can't be the Cop, you firing again keeps them masked for longer.

If there is general consensus this is best I'm fine with it, but I think there is a lot of benefit in picking someone scummy and saying "hey you, daykill this other scummy person or you get shot"

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If people agree with me, I think we should vote with a format like

VOTE: MURDERCAT kills shelly

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Wouldn't scum be more likely to be aware of that?

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I'm thinking that town dayvig is more likely to give a lazy hypo compared to scum. Also a chance that if others had the thought about goons shooting they genuinely looked at me as that's valuable setup info

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Just thinking about this more, goons being able to shoot would just be broken for scum, yeah? I know someone said that already but I didn't think that deeply about it then. Can anyone better at setups think through that and confirm?

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Just as likely to out goons no? And isn't 1 for 1 cop for goon a good trade?

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Assuming the setup is just broken otherwise, if you don't think that's the case please share

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How so?

It's basically 3 extra factional kills

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Also I'm assuming that we can do better than randomly yeeting people during the day and just relying on cops at night.

Though I recognize the setup is explicitly designed for that and I've been accused of taking Shea's troll games too seriously in the past

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Yes, and?

If goons log in first the setup becomes 11:4 which does not feel balanced at all? (And that's not including the nks.)

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But obviously I'm open to anyone actually running numbers on it

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Maybe cops get to shoot too, but if not cop claims become "hope someone from town sees the claim before a goon does and shoots the cop"

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Well not 100% if gf shoots, same with cop innos

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ggwp, thanks Shea!

My goal was to tie the record for fastest day 1 and I succeeded, so calling that a win

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Holy shit - I was ready and MURDERCAT just destroyed it...wow.

Just got around to reading this