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Post Post #204 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:57 am

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Hello, all. I will be with you shortly.
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Post Post #216 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:35 am

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I’m townreading Noraa, Taylor, +joyed, datisi hydra, and leaning that way on murdercat. For scum, I’m thinking xofelf and maybe battle mage.

I’ve played my fair share of games, but I want to change some things stylistically and am giving them a test drive.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:41 am

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Last one can be the narwhal.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:47 am

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Reads are changeable, it’s not like the game is made or broken by my reads on page 9. Is there a read in particular you disagree with? Why?
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Post Post #222 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:53 am

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I’d be willing to consider the former. I think you are zooming too far in to a concrete box of “things town does”

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There’s not even a wagon on you at this point. Why the fatalism?
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Post Post #360 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 315, egotisi wrote:@cobra kai, do you mind getting an avatar? i'm gonna keep mixing up you and BM otherwise, and i don't think i can talk him into getting one
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In post 315, egotisi wrote:@cobra kai, do you mind getting an avatar? i'm gonna keep mixing up you and BM otherwise, and i don't think i can talk him into getting one
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In post 328, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: xofelf

The fact that so many people are throwing shade here when I am totally null on them makes me suspicious. Sorry tayl0r, come vote here now let's see what happens.
I'm not sure if we are having a connotative disagreement- who's throwing shade (are you talking about scumreading?)? Why does throwing shade make you want to vote the person receiving the shade?
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Post Post #364 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:18 am

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Oops, double pasted.

@Murdercat why did you feel the need to clarify on the kill flavor?
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Post Post #416 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

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I disagree. I’m actually more skeptical of them because of it- I think “discussions in thread” could very easily turn into scum faking doing things.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:10 pm

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Hydras are responsible for their own communication, whether it be by quick topic, Skype, discord, what have you. The mods have nothing to do with it. I’m saying their lack of using a third party (and declaring it) seems like a copout to give the illusion of staying busy.

I’ll see more as the game progresses.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #9) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:27 pm

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In post 512, MURDERCAT wrote:VOTE: Cobra Kai

This slot has done worse than nothing.
It’s not badass to spam the thread. It is the be a man of few words, because those words get listened to.

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Post Post #570 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:29 am

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You understand you could ask me questions if you want my thoughts instead of just voting in the hopes I feel even remotely pressured by you keep waving your finger at me for not playing how you want, correct?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:37 am

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Joyed and datisi hydra

Not sure on scumreads. Was planning to reread at some point. Nothing is standing out as overtly scummy- I don’t particularly understand why joyed or Noraa are the leading wagons presently. Feels TvT.

Battle mage and Taylor

Not sure at this point in time.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:03 am

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Why is it a bad answer? Why aren’t you voting me for it?
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Post Post #577 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:13 am

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Why do you think they are scum?
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Post Post #579 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:28 am

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I rescind my earlier thoughts, I no longer think this is TvT.

If you look at +joyed’s iso noraa is the only scumread he won’t explain and he’s said multiple times why he can’t. This hyberbolic explanation shows Noraa cares more about eliminating him than trying to understand and read him.

He had explained scumreads on multiple others.
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Post Post #583 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:35 am

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If you are town you are being unnecessarily stubborn and not looking between the lines. It is very obvious why he can’t.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:53 am

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I’m playing this game how I want to. If you want to eliminate me for it then that’s on you guys and I’m not taking blame for it.

I was asked off the cuff quick fire questions and answered off the cuff and quick fire.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:06 pm

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Your case on plus is he won’t (and literally can’t) explain his read on you.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:22 pm

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He’s put effort into every other read. I think you’re nitpicking.

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Post Post #638 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:42 pm

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I know you want to vote everyone, but are there any standouts in particular isis?
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Post Post #648 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:45 pm

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I’m really tempted to vote Noraa here but I’m not sure if it’s scum being intentionally obstinate or town.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #21) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:24 am

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@Datisi- I’m experienced. I’m townreading you because I’ve seen you play scum, frankly.

Reread will hopefully come tonight or tomorrow. Depends when I get off work.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #22) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:39 am

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In case that came off of rude, sorry, it was unintentional. You seem much... peppier? There’s a noticeable difference tonally.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #23) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:53 am

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I’m not playing guess the alt and am intentionally disguising my go to phrases.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #24) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:41 am

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Plus is on v/la. Isis was literally here yesterday. People have lives that aren’t this game. Besides there are three people with more time away than them.
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Post Post #683 (isolation #25) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:05 am

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VOTE: noraa
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Post Post #685 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:14 am

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I’m a little concerned the question has to be asked.

Have you not played with or in a hydra before?
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Post Post #690 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:28 am

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You don’t see my progression when most of my iso is not liking your posts?

Okay.

Everything I’ve said already, plus you seem yet again to be misrepping isos. I also hated your discord/PT comment and felt it read as awfully forced. I also think your hyper concern towards isis and joyed says you’re worried about their reads on you in particular and strongly suggests they are both town.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:37 am

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It’s not a matter of who is “pro town”

It is a matter of whose alignment is “town”

Regarding ISO’s- you said joyed did not explain scumreads and I pointed out it was incorrect. You said I had no trajectory regarding you but a solid half of my iso is a read developing on you. And now you’re trying to shift the point onto other matters entirely.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:49 am

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Your interactions with plus seem SvT and I am townreading plus pretty strongly. I think you are intentionally misconstruing pretty obvious things in a non-organic way. You did it with plus and are now doing it with me. I think you are way too hyper focused on how you are perceived than I expect you to be.

And when presented with points, you jump to the favored and time honored scum tactics- deflect and discredit.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:03 am

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Isn’t the fact I think you’re scum for your point about plusjoyed imply I think your read is not only wrong, but scum motivated? I refuse to believe you are actually this obtuse.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:04 am

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Doesn’t the fact*
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Post Post #730 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:18 am

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In post 715, Battle Mage wrote:Always makes me laugh when people create a brand-new alt account to play a game, and then want to claim they have loads of experience.
Pinky promise I do. You can judge it regardless of my play I just want to give the best odds of reading me

Re:Noraas- I’ve seen you argue as town and you are stubborn but not this over the top, as she is. I get you want to stick up for someone you think is LHF but I think you are underestimating Noraa.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:25 am

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I have played with you but I’m not going into it more than this-

I see some similarities to some things but I also, frankly think your play seems much more erratic this game than I remember. I plan to look over some of your other games if I get time. It’s lower priority than my reread.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:38 am

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My read isn’t a meta read, Nora. You asked if I had and I shared my thoughts on it.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #35) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:47 am

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It was in response to your questioning if I have experience with you. I said I saw similar pieces to your play as town but you’ve over all been more erratic this game. Are any of the points I’ve brought up about you been about your erratic play? No. I’m not really sure how people are just hand waving you like they are, frankly, because you’ve had some statements about the game that are easily fact checked that are getting ignored.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #36) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:50 am

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xof and BM have both just hand waved you as LHF when it’s pretty evident you aren’t giving a factual interpretation of the game.
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Post Post #751 (isolation #37) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:54 am

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And now you’re talking to me like you know I’m town. Aren’t you supposed to be scumreading me?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:00 pm

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I’m done engaging with you over this it’s only inflating the post count. Nothing you have done has changed my read on you- all you’ve done is try to force me to change my view instead of try to understand mine.

If anyone needs me give me a shout.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #39) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:22 pm

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I originally thought it was TvT because it was one of those endless wall post arguments that go on and on and this early in the game those typically come from town. I did glaze over it at first because it was a chore, but when I went back and reviewed it based off one of Noraas posts I reevaluated, like you saw.

And I turned the cringe down I just finished watching the series so I had to live it a bit, you know?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #40) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 758, Random Canadian wrote:
In post 747, Cobra Kai wrote:xof and BM have both just hand waved you as LHF when
it’s pretty evident you aren’t giving a factual interpretation of the game.
Do you have a specific instance/scenario this is referring to here?
Refer to my ISO.

She stated plusjoyed is avoiding explaining any scumreads, and if you look at his ISO there’s a readslist with explanation amongst others.

She said I had no trajectory before I voted her when a good chunk of my iso has been talking about her.

She stated my read is meta based because I answered her question of if I’m familiar with her, when my read has nothing to do with meta at all.

There’s more in my ISO if you’re curious. Feel free to double check these all.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #41) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:36 pm

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Join date before yours but after BM, gamma. A good chunk of games.
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Post Post #766 (isolation #42) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:38 pm

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In post 442, PlusJOYED wrote:haunted house gutreads / early reads

murdercat: weak-town. didnt like the rc vote, it came off as lamisty, but i've liked their other stuff. Like up until iso post 36 i was down on town!murdercat. I still am but slightly less, mainly when they started looking at wagonomics.

isis: town. Partial bias here cause menagerie, but I also think this is genuine town!isis I saw in menagerie. Her townreading exorcist also helps my confidence here.

exorcists: town. I think his posts show a town mindset. Like not a single one of his posts i have a problem with.

ego: town. I think his posts show a town mindset. Same reasons as exorcist. No posts I have a problem with.

bm: weak-town. dont like the desperate taylor push this early. Maybe its something he does as town idk. At least I don't think him vs taylor is SvS but I actually get TvT vibes there. Reason why is that their beef seems more based on past games and frustration rather than actual scumhunting but seems too genuine to be SvS this early. So he's less towny than taylor but nulltown because I think him vs Tayl0r is TvT.

side note, I can't believe BM doesn't have an avi and has been here since 2007.

noraa: sus. Can't elaborate much, but I think her push on me comes from a bad place due to meta reasons. Noraa also likes to push aggressively as scum on town.

rc: weak-sus. seems very flaily imo and i get an aura of anxiety from this narwhal and not a fan of the isis vote + entrance, though he could just be nervous town since I've only done 1 newbie game with him.

xoxelf: most sus for reasons i talked about earlier. I wanna pursue this for now.

dunnstral: neutral. He's thrown out a lot of reasons why someone could be scum and tried to shut down reads from my understanding upon iso look. Not a fan, but I don't strongly disagree with any of their points either, so I have to place him in neutral

Tswift: weak town read. I think the reaction to the bm push comes from frustrated town. Their play reminds me a bit of 2163.

jewels: weak town. Iso seems rather towny upon reread and mod response mildly implies they are town (think it was a mod slip).

cobra: very weak town. Liked his fast readlist, I believe that comes from a townie more likely. But with 8 posts and most of them NAI im still kinda unsure.
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Post Post #768 (isolation #43) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:39 pm

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Xof explanations are throughout his ISO.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #44) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:43 pm

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What is your read on me presently, MCat?

Ninja-
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Post Post #802 (isolation #45) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:16 pm

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@xof I was talking about plus joyeds scumread on you being justified throughout his ISO- sorry if it wasn’t clear!
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Post Post #806 (isolation #46) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:31 pm

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What are you referring to when you say thread presence, gamma?
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Post Post #814 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:40 pm

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I could very easily go back to lurking. I’m posting because I want to.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:48 am

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There’s a difference between keeping a thread alive and drowning out the game.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:52 pm

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The odds of my rereading and sift through pages of half ass meta explanation of why we should eliminate x person who is elim bait so we can’t elim them because they always get elimmed goes down and down with each new page

Why are we on Taylor now?
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #50) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:47 pm

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In post 1077, Infinity 324 wrote:Did you have thoughts on the me/BM/nora interactions on the last few games, or not? I thought there was quite a bit productive that came from it.
I think it looks like Noraas trying (and succeeding) to pocket BM. I will say, you hit the nail on the head that her scumreads are all people who question her.

Is there something I’m supposed to be seeing in these past few pages? I’m not even sure I understand what your post is getting at.
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #51) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:05 pm

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Frankly, it’s part of why I think Noraa is scum. I think she is intentionally inflating the thread to make it hard to make heads or tails of things. It’s a viable tactic but I think stuff like that makes the game less fun overall and it’s kinda cheap. I also think she’s way too concerned at her personal standing than what I’ve seen from her.

I digress, because people are townreading her because ????

I pray for PRs to sort her out so I don’t have to worry about it anymore.
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #52) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:13 pm

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I’m not pushing her with it because I know she’s a hyper poster regardless.

I’m not at all impressed with her scumread pool for the same reasoning infinity pointed out. Like I said, leave the slot to PRs to figure out. Her and xof. And Taylor. And bm. And dunnstral.
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #53) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:02 am

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Are we ready to eliminate Nora and end the day?
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Post Post #1342 (isolation #54) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:06 am

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Post Post #1491 (isolation #55) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:19 am

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Let’s please stop getting sidetracked and have Nora claim.
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #56) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:30 am

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Can someone paint me a picture their xof scumread? I haven’t minded her since early game at all.
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #57) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:00 am

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Why are we backing off Nora?
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #58) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:02 am

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Can you walk me through why Ego is scum? I have liked Datisi’s posting this game.

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Post Post #1556 (isolation #59) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:07 am

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Besides the whole townslip thing she tried to pull, and I’m pretty sure she’s playing up the “overeager newbie who didn’t know better” card.

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Well yes but you don’t want to trade for it d1

And you’re discounting the possibility she is the strongman lol. Even if not, iirc scum picked the blocker too?
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Post Post #1559 (isolation #60) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:07 am

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BM and Noras interactions don’t read as T/T at all.
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Post Post #1588 (isolation #61) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:21 am

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I think you’re butthurt I called out your sketch interactions with Noraa multiple times.
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Post Post #1591 (isolation #62) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:22 am

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Gamma talk me through why datisi hydra is scum

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Nora is a way better elim
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #63) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:28 pm

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There was a hammer?
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #64) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:30 pm

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Walk me through your scum letting town flail theory, MCat?
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #65) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:45 pm

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Well MCat if you want the chance to read me better feel free to ask whatever. I never did reread because certain people inflated the game too hard but I’m pretty well-immersed now.
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:48 pm

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I agree about ego not being scum and feel similarly regarding xof.
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Post Post #1651 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:03 pm

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BM has had awful interactions with her all game.
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Post Post #1679 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:06 pm

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In post 1662, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1559, Cobra Kai wrote:BM and Noras interactions don’t read as T/T at all.
agreed but im leaning S/S more than T/S
I could see it. Let’s get one flipped first.
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #69) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:38 am

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I staunchly believe Isis should be flipped today. I was thinking about it overnight and my gut is insisting she has to be scum.

VOTE: Isis

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Post Post #1735 (isolation #70) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:40 am

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Okay then

VOTE: ego
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #71) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:41 am

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You should probably hit Taylor tonight or BM will be annoying in the dead PT

I also feel bad my halfass meta read was wrong but that’s in the past.
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Post Post #1743 (isolation #72) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:55 am

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Keep scum in the dark, imo

We can chat tomorrow.
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #73) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:56 am

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Scum have a strongman and a blocker so the odds you actually get a shot off are slim to none, sadly.
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #74) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:05 am

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We don’t know for sure if they would use it without any claims out there.
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:33 am

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Why does ego flipping scum make you feel better about isis?
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #76) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:41 am

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I put Taylor in as a placeholder (I was debating gamma but I wanted to reread and be more sure) but deadline hit before I could

I basically wanted to try and singlehandedly win the game but botched it
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Post Post #2446 (isolation #77) » Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:37 am

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I didn’t realize we could have duplicate roles. So I thought I *had* to be the only joat.

All good though! I’m just disappointed I never got around to changing my shot like I wanted to.
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