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Post Post #2842 (isolation #400) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:19 am

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In post 2840, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2782, Noraa wrote:like 1) why the fuck would a scum come out and be like lel ik there's only been 1 kill every day but u gotta believe I was the vig that killed them
and 2) im "universally TRed" anyways. everyone just thinks im bad town but still town. I dont have to claim to survive the day and thats the only reason I could see scum doing this :/
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Post Post #2846 (isolation #401) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:23 am

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part of my sus on ico is bc town vig often times means scum doc
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Post Post #2847 (isolation #402) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:23 am

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no lets drag the day out a little longer. I need time to think
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Post Post #2856 (isolation #403) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:35 am

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why is bob town? someone answer
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Post Post #2857 (isolation #404) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:38 am

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In post 2851, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2846, Noraa wrote:part of my sus on ico is bc town vig often times means scum doc

Not always. A vig normaly means there is protective in the mix of some sort. Either thats a scum doc or a town protective.

When vigs are in they normaly weaken all other town roles that dont have gating. So a 3shot vig would be balanced based on reducing the number of days being reduced by one and one scum or vig kill being blocked. so ungated roles are 3/4 of the strength that they have in game without a vig.
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #405) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:39 am

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town has some pretty strong prs imo. this imo means that scum has two prs(one of which we killed already) and a goon
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Post Post #2862 (isolation #406) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:06 am

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in this case ... I doubt that's enough cuz I'm just straight up unpredictable
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Post Post #2865 (isolation #407) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:11 am

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I don't think we have any other prs that claimed vt
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Post Post #2866 (isolation #408) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:11 am

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maybe the scum team only has two goons left then?
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Post Post #2867 (isolation #409) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:12 am

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idk but I think there's one scum in the vt pile and one in the pr pile
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Post Post #2868 (isolation #410) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:12 am

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I honestly feel like there's too much town power
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Post Post #2869 (isolation #411) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:12 am

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Mena had a pretty strong role
BM did as well
Ico as doctor is really strong
Bob as follower is pretty strong too
and then me as vig

...idk I feel like there's too much town power honestly
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Post Post #2870 (isolation #412) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:14 am

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ok actually I take that back. I think scums have two prs and a goon and 5 town prs does somewhat make sense that way
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Post Post #2871 (isolation #413) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:15 am

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3 scum prs isnt likely and town would have to make me a full one vig or something to even that mess out.
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Post Post #2872 (isolation #414) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:15 am

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so the scum team really did just all claim vt?
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Post Post #2873 (isolation #415) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:15 am

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god that's messed tf up
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Post Post #2875 (isolation #416) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:18 am

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@_@
im confused now
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Post Post #2876 (isolation #417) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:18 am

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I never do the math
I just eyeball it and be like huh that sounds reasonable
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Post Post #2878 (isolation #418) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:21 am

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im confusion T^T
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #419) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:30 am

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u think my claim's fake?
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Post Post #2886 (isolation #420) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:31 am

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I literally crumbed it so hard yesterday that everyone's stupid if they didnt see it.
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #421) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:50 am

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I don't get it
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Post Post #2898 (isolation #422) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:02 am

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mena didnt SR me
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Post Post #2901 (isolation #423) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:10 am

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lmao
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Post Post #2902 (isolation #424) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:10 am

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I shall try
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Post Post #2905 (isolation #425) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:19 am

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In post 2904, TheGoldenParadox wrote:iaaun is probably scum, and likely the lim for today. that being said, i'm reconsidering my confirmed town on bob.

right now {me, ico, noraa} are mechanically confirmed. let me figure out bob.
how am I mechanically confirmed?
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #426) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:54 am

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that true
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Post Post #2916 (isolation #427) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:47 am

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In post 2910, Alonzo wrote:Why isn't this scum! Noraa in plain sight?
you think I'm scum?
In post 2912, Datisi wrote:y'all post too much

i'll do proper reading and sPeCc when i get some sleep. tho i did see talk of ico being a scum doctor and i just wanna say i am disappointed in whoever is town and pushing that idea. ico is town and i will keep screaming about it however long necessary
I didnt push this but its absolutely possible imo.
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Post Post #2918 (isolation #428) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:52 am

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except that a lot of people think ur scum so if ur scum, it doesn't really matter if u say someone is towny, u'd be saying it just to pocket
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Post Post #2920 (isolation #429) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 am

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well no one was down to lim ico today anyways so :/
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Post Post #2924 (isolation #430) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:33 am

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What bob said ^ actually makes a lot of sense ngl. I'll have to assume all the prs r town. That makes it much easier actually.
We just have all the vanilla claims.
4 vanilla claims
3 eliminations left
and 1 vig kill to top it off
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Post Post #2926 (isolation #431) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:38 am

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wait do we have 3 eliminations?
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Post Post #2928 (isolation #432) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:45 am

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ok so gypyx's last post said it was 7 people left
so if we lim one, we have 6
during the night, scum kill one,
we have 5,
we lim one,
4,
scum kill one,
3

nvm so town has two elims and one vig shot.
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Post Post #2929 (isolation #433) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:45 am

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4 vanilla town claims and 2 scum inside those 4.
3 chances to win.
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Post Post #2933 (isolation #434) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:48 am

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No be quiet. I want to hear everyone talk more.
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Post Post #2935 (isolation #435) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:49 am

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Ico and Datisi haven't even caught up yet. why are you in such a rush to kill someone?
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Post Post #2937 (isolation #436) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:50 am

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remove your vote golden. town needs people to catch up. Rn its just us three messing around. I need to hear more from the others.
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Post Post #2939 (isolation #437) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:50 am

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I also personally do not believe alonzo is scum so....
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Post Post #2944 (isolation #438) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 2941, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2919, Datisi wrote:except i am not scum and i know how to read ico and i'm trying to stop y'all from throwing

One thing i have found in my many games with you is that you have never misread ico. Was one the biggest factors in your last town game that let me solve it day 2. Even if scum did get me lynched :-(


So you agree with me that ico is town. Whihc of teh two of teh possible reason for menal nk based on the fact that ico protected him do you think is more liekly. That he was blocked and nora is scum or that scum and nora double teamed menal?
You were the one that said bc of the lack of town power, we must assume all prs r conftown. what happened to that?
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Post Post #2946 (isolation #439) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:55 am

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In post 2942, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 2938, Alonzo wrote:
In post 2934, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if mafia block the vig shot either through a roleblocker or doctor (which it doesn't seem they have, due to setup) then we simply exe alonzo tomorrow.
Define simply?
we exe alonzo tomorrow. it should be simple.


look guys, it's 5v2 with 4 confirmeds. there is no point in having subjective opinion here.
holy fuck that's actually true I just realized.
we have 4 confirmed and 3 people left.
those 3 r 2 scum and 1 vanilla townie.
We have two lims and one vig shot. perfect!
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Post Post #2947 (isolation #440) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:56 am

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waitttt..... then don't we have not enough vanilla townies?
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Post Post #2948 (isolation #441) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:56 am

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wait I'm getting really confused. Hold tf up.
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Post Post #2951 (isolation #442) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:59 am

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golden is cleared town
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #443) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:02 am

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Ok game state looks like this:

Alive:
Noraa: gated vig
Bob: follower
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Golden: confirmed vanilla townie bc of ico
Datisi: vt or SCUM
User: vt or SCUM
Alonzo: vt or SCUM

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Post Post #2956 (isolation #444) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:03 am

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In post 2951, Noraa wrote:golden is cleared town
cuz day 2, scums tried to kill him
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Post Post #2957 (isolation #445) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:03 am

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not neighborhood
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #446) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 2949, bob3141 wrote:want to know more about what datisi thinks so i can sort him. Last game i read his day one and town binned him but what to make sure that that read wasnt flawed even if it was right. as the poe strongly points to datisi

As based on my reads its most likely username/datisi. As i think alonzo is town and town leaning gtp
I 100% agree with this. Username/datisi sounds the most reasonable
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Post Post #2960 (isolation #447) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:05 am

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Town lim User today and then I vig Datisi and then its GAME OVER
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Post Post #2962 (isolation #448) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:06 am

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OML please tell me this is how this game is gonna go. imma feel so proud if that's what happens :D
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Post Post #2963 (isolation #449) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 2961, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2951, Noraa wrote:golden is cleared town
The slot inst clear but is likely town. as we dont know what happened n2 as we have the nk you claimed. But we dont know if scum shot BM for some reason aswell. Or if it was blocked which would confirm gtp if they shot him. Or even if they no killed for some reason.


Also ico do you know what results menal got n1 and n2
no scum would be stupid to shoot BM that's impossible. getting roleblocked is impossible. town has no roleblocker.
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Post Post #2964 (isolation #450) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:07 am

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no kill on day 2 is stupid.
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Post Post #2965 (isolation #451) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:08 am

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Yeah ico tell us mena's results and then town lim user and I vig datisi and its hopefully game over.
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Post Post #2967 (isolation #452) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:08 am

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if not, we kill alonzo tomorrow tho I don't think alonzo is scum
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Post Post #2970 (isolation #453) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:20 am

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BTW EVERYONE GO SAY HAPPY BDAY TO MOD
ASAP OTHERWISE I VIG U(this was a joke in case some people didnt get it somehow :/)
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Post Post #2972 (isolation #454) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:20 am

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I remember why I was sus of bob now
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Post Post #2973 (isolation #455) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:21 am

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it was bc both ur night results gave us zero new info
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Post Post #2977 (isolation #456) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 2974, bob3141 wrote:
In post 2970, Noraa wrote:BTW EVERYONE GO SAY HAPPY BDAY TO MOD
ASAP OTHERWISE I VIG U(this was a joke in case some people didnt get it somehow :/)

is it actualy gypx birthday :-P
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its a follower for for you. only slighly better than a voyeur.
voyeur isnt bad tho. better than voyeur = good :P
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Post Post #2978 (isolation #457) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:29 am

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*idea
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Post Post #2980 (isolation #458) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:04 pm

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voyeur is very useful if used right imo
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Post Post #2983 (isolation #459) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:11 pm

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User the scum team ur telling me is in our prs then?
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Post Post #2984 (isolation #460) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:12 pm

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user is trying to tell us scums are golden and datisi?
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Post Post #2985 (isolation #461) » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:12 pm

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im not shooting alonzo. I'm shooting datisi
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Post Post #2988 (isolation #462) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:44 am

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there there

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psst mod I have an idea. mod kill all them ungrateful pumpkins :evil face:
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Post Post #2991 (isolation #463) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:07 am

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Where tf are ico and datisi when we need reads from them?
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Post Post #2992 (isolation #464) » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:54 pm

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Sorry peoples for changing my avatar. be bamboozled for a bit.
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Post Post #2998 (isolation #465) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:54 am

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I think alonzo is town.
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Post Post #2999 (isolation #466) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:55 am

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there problem is that if I holster, I'm definitely the nk right?
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Post Post #3000 (isolation #467) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:56 am

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I suppose the other prs can be just as deadly but losing a scum buddy overnight isnt gonna sit well with the scum team....
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Post Post #3001 (isolation #468) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:56 am

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especially rn when they r really close to losing
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Post Post #3004 (isolation #469) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:13 am

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In post 3002, Datisi wrote:scum had role for (among other things) finding a neighbourhood
why would scum have a role for finding a neighbourhood if a scum is already in a hood (and therefore knows about it)
hence ico and menal town

both role watcher and vanilla cop are very weak investigative roles, role watcher can maaaaybe confirm an existence of a different PR while a vanilla cop can just confirm if someone is a PR or not (and also send letters which is not really +EV for town)
follower/role watcher/vigilante/doc actually give a pretty interesting dynamic
and we also don't know what the other two scum are
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Post Post #3005 (isolation #470) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:13 am

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In post 3003, TheGoldenParadox wrote:^^ everything in that post is correct and it makes me lean town much harder on datisi

@noraa you definitely need to holster in the very unlikely event of iaaun!town
and if user is town shoot alonzo because alonzo has been trying this entire day to bring confirmed and pseudoconfirmed innocents into the pool
you managed to directly clash urself in one post
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Post Post #3009 (isolation #471) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:16 am

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Ok scum is in user, datisi and alonzo. If user is green, scum is datisi/alonzo
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Post Post #3010 (isolation #472) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:18 am

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In post 3007, TheGoldenParadox wrote:sorry *if user is scum shoot alonzo
iauun and user are the same person. u are still directing clashing.
In post 3008, TheGoldenParadox wrote:yeah dats seems quite town here
no. I just won a scum game yesterday by being protown
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Post Post #3011 (isolation #473) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:18 am

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Oh nvm I didn't read that
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Post Post #3012 (isolation #474) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:20 am

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In post 3006, TheGoldenParadox wrote:tbh noraa won't be the nightkill in any case; she's proved helpful for scum. it'll almost definitely be ico because he can't self-target
no "I have proven helpful for scum" is a bullshit reason considering I am currently not the one making the decision.
it'll likely be ico unless the scums want ico to stay alive for town to start suspecting which I suppose is possible.
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ico protect me.
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btw why should I holster if user is town? that means scum team is datisi/alonzo
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In post 3015, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 3010, Noraa wrote:no. I just won a scum game yesterday by being protown
uh
well believe it or not I was the only person solving
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why would it be bob?
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if its not in that little pool, its honestly you not bob
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hm
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is the consensus that I holster if user is town?
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Post Post #3025 (isolation #482) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:31 am

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I think all the prs r town bc as people have pointed out, there's a hole in town power if not.
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Post Post #3027 (isolation #483) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:02 am

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what if user flips red?
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Post Post #3029 (isolation #484) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:06 am

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why alonzo? I want to shoot datisi
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Post Post #3032 (isolation #485) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:09 am

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I don't think so. being + town rn is a great way to win the game
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Post Post #3035 (isolation #486) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:11 am

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username/datisi doesn't make sense?
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #487) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:12 am

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if user flips red, I kill datisi. I don't think alonzo is scum.
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Post Post #3038 (isolation #488) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:14 am

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does bussing just like not exist?
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Post Post #3039 (isolation #489) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:15 am

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I think its a datisi/user solve
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Post Post #3040 (isolation #490) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:17 am

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Datisi literally agrees with me that everyone is cleared except himself, user, and alonzo yet he tells me to holster if user flips green. From his perspective if he is green, he will say no fucking no the solve is user/alonzo all the way.
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Post Post #3043 (isolation #491) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:21 am

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But u agreed with all the TRs so u shouldnt expect user to even flip green to begin with :/
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #492) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:22 am

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I don't think this game is extremely hard mode
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Post Post #3046 (isolation #493) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:25 am

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Alonzo why you keep saying I have you in my pocket?
1) I have done nothing to pocket anyone
2) low-key shade bruh
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Post Post #3047 (isolation #494) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am

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In post 3045, Datisi wrote:
In post 3043, Noraa wrote:But u agreed with all the TRs so u shouldnt expect user to even flip green to begin with :/
"i don't think username is flipping green" =/= "i am one million percent sure username is not flipping green"

like i also don't think this game is insanely hard mode either
but i *have seen* games turn to shit before
and *if* that happens i'd rather have a shot in lylo to solve it than just instalose because the vig was thirsty for my blood
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Post Post #3048 (isolation #495) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am

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Ico needs to protect me if user is green.
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Post Post #3049 (isolation #496) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 am

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if user isnt green, ico do whatever the fuck you want. scum won't kill me anyways since I used my last shot.
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Post Post #3051 (isolation #497) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:32 am

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Post Post #3054 (isolation #498) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:30 am

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If datisi is town then the team is alonzo/user
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Post Post #3058 (isolation #499) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:39 am

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In post 3055, Alonzo wrote:
In post 3046, Noraa wrote:Alonzo why you keep saying I have you in my pocket?
1) I have done nothing to pocket anyone
2) low-key shade bruh
What's the expression for ' I believe you, and have total faith in you' if not ' pocketed'?
pocketed suggests scum whereas just about any synonym does not.
In post 3057, iamausername wrote: a futile gesture. if i'm not dead yet, and i can find the motivation, i will do some isoreads tomorrow.
AtE. Also explain why Golden is not scum. Why Bob?
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #500) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:41 am

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Lel I'm finally understanding how it feels to be able to be scummy af without anyone being able to say anything cuz ur conftown :P :P :P

I swear to god tho mods never give me fn >:(

Why do I feel like the consensus of user lim is falling apart?
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Post Post #3062 (isolation #501) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:42 am

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alonzo lim is going up?
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Post Post #3065 (isolation #502) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:52 am

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Golden, Iconeum, iamausername, bob3141, Noraa, Datisi, Alonzo are the people we have left.

I am 100% convinced in Ico town cuz without two strong prs, idk how tf this game would function.
Bc I am 100% convinced in Ico town, Golden is 100% conftown as well. I don't think scums no-kill day 2 in this game. I don't see it AT ALL
I am town. no fucking shit.
Bob is likely town since the town is low on town power but if one of the pr claims is a lie, its this one. semi lock town here.
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Post Post #3066 (isolation #503) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:53 am

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TOWN BLOCK: Noraa, Ico, Golden, Bob(kinda)
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Post Post #3067 (isolation #504) » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:53 am

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We have three kills to work with(2 lims and one vig shot)

I think we can do it!
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #505) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:40 am

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^not a great way to judge people but going that in depth does make me feel like you could be town.
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Post Post #3086 (isolation #506) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:09 am

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VOTE: User

I'm willing to lim here
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Post Post #3088 (isolation #507) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 am

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UNVOTE: User

I don't think bon is scum but I'd like to take a look at this point. if its really consistent .... I might be a bit worried
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Post Post #3089 (isolation #508) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:14 am

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*bob
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Post Post #3090 (isolation #509) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:19 am

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I did not check all of them but it does seem none of his town games has the word "fellow"
but I did find one scum game that didnt have any of the word fellow either
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Post Post #3091 (isolation #510) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:21 am

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In one of bob's scum games he said that no typos in his posts is a scumtell of his
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Post Post #3093 (isolation #511) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 2505, bob3141 wrote:Wrote every post in google docs this game. Its prob actualy a scum tell that i had no quick fire posts with typos
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Post Post #3095 (isolation #512) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:30 am

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right after I post that u typo the word "the"
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Post Post #3096 (isolation #513) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:31 am

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*sigh* that is not making me feel better
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Post Post #3099 (isolation #514) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:39 am

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*sigh* imma have to take a look at this game in a bit
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Post Post #3107 (isolation #515) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 3105, Alonzo wrote:
In post 3099, Noraa wrote:*sigh* imma have to take a look at this game in a bit

I know IV reread your reads posts, I be interested to hear where your heads at now.
I don't even know rn
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Post Post #3109 (isolation #516) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 3106, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i looked at 20 games. 16 town, 4 mafia. Here are the results:

bob has used the word "fellow" at least once in every one of his mafia games, and in exactly three of his town games. in one of his mafia games, he used it twice, and in another game, he used it 11 times.

this is... interesting, to say the least. he's used it four times this game.

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hm this doesn't look that AI imo
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Post Post #3110 (isolation #517) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:41 am

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doesn't look like it shows up that much. looks really inconsistent. sample size too small
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Post Post #3118 (isolation #518) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:07 am

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Ok so its scumsided asf basically
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Post Post #3119 (isolation #519) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:08 am

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I don't think bob is scum tho.
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Post Post #3169 (isolation #520) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:15 pm

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*sigh* I'll catch up someday
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Post Post #3183 (isolation #521) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 3123, Alonzo wrote:Plus you've had a wierd Bob town tunnel forever in this one. @noraa
I used to SR bob.
In post 3140, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if you're town, attacking me is not the way to go when i'm pseudoconfirmed.

let's go with alonzo today, noraa can holster tonight while bob tracks one of {user/dats}
why should I holster? I think if we hit scum today, I take a risk and go with who I think is scum. y'all can suggest. I guarantee I won't kill a conftown but everyone else has no guarantees. Even if I hit wrong, I narrow down the setup by so much for tomorrow.
In post 3170, Alonzo wrote:Get your vig head on and get in the game @noraa
all this setup speculation is boring af. I think we just accept bob is town and if he is scum, we all blame mod post game(jkjk gypyx don't hurt me). It's pretty simple.
In post 3173, TheGoldenParadox wrote:a town cop
whose guilty flipped green
, remember?

there is no way scum would kill bm n2. none. zero.
I second. Scums would actually have to be the stupidest people ever to kill BM.
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Post Post #3184 (isolation #522) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:24 pm

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Some of Alonzo's recent posts have been a bit .... scummy
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Post Post #3186 (isolation #523) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:45 pm

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why would losing a mislim be bad?
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Post Post #3188 (isolation #524) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:02 pm

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I said if we hit scum today I am taking a shot. why is that a problem?
if we hit town today, I'll holster
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #525) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:25 pm

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but the 3v1 would be like Golden, Noraa, Bob, and one of {Datisi, User, Alonzo}

I don't see what's bad about that. the remaining in {Datisi, User, Alonzo} has to be scum. we lim them, we win and game over.
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Post Post #3248 (isolation #526) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:29 am

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God Ico why are you so scummy? Multitasking is the norm for scums. If we get a red flip, I definitely don't holster. scum is in {datisi, alonzo, user}
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #527) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:30 am

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If I holster, scums kill me bc Ico's protect should and will be on Bob.
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Post Post #3251 (isolation #528) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:18 am

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I holster if its a green flip 100% but I don't think I holster if its red flip. I read ur reasoning. so?
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Post Post #3252 (isolation #529) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:18 am

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both scum in{datisi, user, alonzo}
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Post Post #3255 (isolation #530) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:35 am

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what if scum no kills?
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #531) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:45 am

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hmmm ok then ico protect bob
I die tonight.
you guys find scum. kill them. win the game

that sound like a plan?
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Post Post #3264 (isolation #532) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:09 am

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well bc I'm easily swayed eh? *sigh*
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Post Post #3265 (isolation #533) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:10 am

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ig that's true but I'd prefer I die tonight and hopefully I do. Either way my role is good so scums'll likely go there no matter what.
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #534) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:10 am

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In post 3262, Datisi wrote:sounds like a plan to me.

do y'all wanna wait for ico to come back and clarify his own role PM or are we good with me putting username on E-1?
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #535) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:11 am

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protect is on Bob, I'm the best kill.
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #536) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:34 am

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who in the fuck ever said I was going to shoot ico
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #537) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:35 am

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Tho I am very unpredictable and dangerous to keep around even if I'm a god at killing town. Scums should kill me. It will provide zero new info for town since I specifically said scums should kill me.
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Post Post #3282 (isolation #538) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:37 am

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no if we want this to work, ico must protect bob
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #539) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:38 am

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no ICO PROTECT BOB
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Post Post #3288 (isolation #540) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:38 am

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oh that's true ig
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Post Post #3289 (isolation #541) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 6:38 am

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lets hope scum shoot whoever gets protected
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #542) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:52 am

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*sigh* user was town
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Post Post #3303 (isolation #543) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:14 am

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its alonzo/datisi confirmed
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Post Post #3304 (isolation #544) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:15 am

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Yes I would allowed golden to hammer you
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Post Post #3309 (isolation #545) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:19 am

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Bob ur not scum right?
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #546) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:19 am

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yeah I'm not voting no worries
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Post Post #3320 (isolation #547) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:33 am

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*sigh*
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Post Post #3321 (isolation #548) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:34 am

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I say we lim alonzo and I vig datisi tonight. if we lose, we lose. I don't think anyone can successfully convince me that bob is scum atm
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Post Post #3322 (isolation #549) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:34 am

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lim alonzo vig datisi is fine too
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Post Post #3328 (isolation #550) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:17 am

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Its literally datisi and alonzo. I see no other explanation.
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Post Post #3329 (isolation #551) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:18 am

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Bob is not scum I don't think and if he is, so be it.
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Post Post #3334 (isolation #552) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:39 am

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nice scum theatre
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Post Post #3342 (isolation #553) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:09 am

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We kill alonzo. I vig datisi. If we lose the game, u can blame me later.
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #554) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:10 am

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btw what's a traitor?
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #555) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:33 am

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GG guys!!!
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Post Post #3370 (isolation #556) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:33 am

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How dare you kill me Datisi ;(
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Post Post #3371 (isolation #557) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:34 am

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Alonzo that was the best fucking save I've ever fucking seen
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Post Post #3373 (isolation #558) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 3372, Gypyx wrote:don't read, it's trash
1) im def reading it cuz u said not to
2) it says I'm not authorized ;(

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Post Post #3374 (isolation #559) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:36 am

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also sorry for spamming ur inbox 24/7 gypyx
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Post Post #3376 (isolation #560) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:38 am

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and uh .... sorry for killing all the hybrid prs :/
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #561) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:38 am

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twas all 10/10 gypyx
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Post Post #3380 (isolation #562) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:40 am

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the frequent vc's was awesome.
D3f does poke for night action pms and I find those adorable. no idea why.
there was flavor?
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Post Post #3382 (isolation #563) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:42 am

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shoulda made sure the vig role landed on someone that has good reads :/
else the setup gonna be real unbalanced after the vig kills all the prs...
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I was scum in a game D3f modded and he would title the night action pms "poke for night action" and I associate that with gifs like this:

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yup this game
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Post Post #3391 (isolation #566) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:48 am

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:( cuteness is good
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Post Post #3399 (isolation #567) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:28 am

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In post 3392, Gypyx wrote:i think this game was the first normal where "doc only protects from one kill" actually mattered lol
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Post Post #3445 (isolation #568) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 3403, TheGoldenParadox wrote:alonzo i was SO angry at you when i saw your flip but then i realized that your play actually was perfectly +town because if you had claimed you'd just have gotten the lim anyway
it was risky because you could have gotten vigged but whatever

great job everyone!! very well played game on all sides.
Funny thing is that Alonzo was always on my TRs and I only flipped cuz Bob fooled me hard.
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In post 3414, Menalque wrote:it was far too town sided. I meant when I said we should all just agree that scum won this, because they by all intents and purposes did, and literally only lost because of a glaring setup imbalance that fucked them in lylo

I've already said this to gypyx in the dead PT, so he knows that this isn't an issue I have with his design, but I do not think this setup should ever have passed the NRG as it stands
Gypyx fixed the setup by making me vig. Two prs got taken out just like that.
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Gypyx now you know the way the world works. Make Noraa a vig and you can give town three role blockers and two doctors and it'll still even out in the end to be the match for three goons :/
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:facepalm: probably
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Post Post #3459 (isolation #572) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:23 am

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*siiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*
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Post Post #3460 (isolation #573) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:25 am

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If we count marathon games, it looks like this:
was town RGB cop, died day 2 for claiming 3rd party scum :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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was vig, kill two prs and one scum
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Post Post #3463 (isolation #574) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:31 am

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Gypyx lemme tell u a secret. replacing into newbie games almost always get you scum or pr roles. dunno why but I replaced into like three and I got JKer and goon
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Post Post #3464 (isolation #575) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:31 am

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Aw thanks golden :D
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Post Post #3466 (isolation #576) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:35 am

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no idea what they are lmao.
LEL we can be crappy prs together :lol:
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Post Post #3467 (isolation #577) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:36 am

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shelly welly was hammered day 1 :(

that made me very upsetti spaghetti >:(
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Post Post #3468 (isolation #578) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:36 am

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Also Taylor too :(
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Post Post #3474 (isolation #579) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 3472, the worst wrote:scum won my heart.
I say I won it too bc I was scum's best friend. I cleared two prs for them after all :mrgreen:
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Post Post #3495 (isolation #580) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:20 am

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In post 2158, Noraa wrote:
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This post was written Friday night. I didn't check the thread until after shelly was hammered and didn't read up until my full reread on the game that night.

Rereading the entire thread here are my thoughts:

Datisi putting pressure on me over me saying he needed to justify his vote if it wasn't a rvs vote is strange. It's very strange bc in general votes need to be justified and putting pressure on a newb and making them feel like they weren't supposed to ask is just not rubbing the right way. Questioning my use of the terms antitown and scummy was definitely strange as well. Datisi's whole "let Bm look like the one tunneling while adding some pressure on Noraa "was a really really strange approach that doesn't strike me as towny ngl.


Bm being condescending and provocative doesn't seem to be AI. I meta dived or technically I literally read like the tiniest bit of his first game on site back in 2007 and people called him condescending and provocative. I think this may just be personality/playstyle so as much as I'm still a bit salty, I will try to be open minded about this when rereading.

Bob came in and joined in putting pressure on me. So alright I admit after the first few days of day one, I in a way, kinda stopped trying. I felt greatly discouraged and honestly just wanted to replace out. However rereading I personally do not think I was being antitown or scummy at the time as I had not given up on the game that early. So anyone that joined in putting pressure on me is definitely in my slight scum lean list.

Bm's whole thing about not liking to lie and not caring about anyone's opinion except his own is a strange post to make day 1. It's just very .... strange and I dont understand why scum or town would say something like this tbh.

So Bob continues to be active but not inputting much useful info. It seems he is siding with bm in the bmvnoraa thing but is mostly dealing in fluff anyways. he is not trying to get too involved and is trying to extend rvs in a way.

Mena popping in and saying BmvNoraa, something that happened in the first 5 pages, is TvS is VERY scummy. I absolutely hate that. It almost feels like scum TMIing and trying to set up two mislims bc they know both bm and I are town. If bm is Mena's scum partner, he wouldn't say that. this is why Mena and BM aren't scum together imo. Mena's flipflopping between me and bm is concerning as well.

Post #166 was when I started giving up. Everything before post 166 was when I believe I was giving this game my normal which is a ton a ton of attention and thought. After this I was considering just lurking or replacing out because I was pretty upset about how things were playing out and felt low-key bullied over nothing cuz as I said, I gave it my normal and the responses I got weren't nice especially from bm. Btw dont tell me wanting to lurk or replace out is scummy bc I seriously was upset about it. I have zero games, finished or ongoing where I actively lurk. My post counts are generally the highest and I'm spammy as hell normally. This game truly upset me and there's nothing more to that.

Taylor comes in and immediately takes my side which I can definitely see as trying to pocket. Taylor has been in games with me and I think anyone thats been in a game with me before can 100% tell that I was actually quite upset. And since I'm a pretty emotionally driven person, when I'm upset is the perfect time for scum to come pocket.

Back to Mena. Mena's Fos on BM just looks OMGUSy to me. The change to me isn't well justified either. I think the flip floppiness is actually a town tell as the entire thing was quite confusing if I do say so myself. towns reaction should be confusion imo. I was in it myself so I got a different view on things but I think a normal townies reaction should be to be confused. Mena is in my town book for townie confusion.

Post 199 feels town. Taylor was JKer in one of the games I finished with her. I'm getting the same vibes from there here so Taylor is in my early town book as well for meta reasons. Another thing is that Taylor seems quite a bit emotionally driven this game and that is 100% a town tell for her.

Piis entrance strikes me as town here. The post covers a little bit of everything, had some good reasons, didn't tunnel or focus on anything specifically yet, and had a nice summary. Pii in my early town book as well for this very towny sounding first post.

TGP's entrance is a terrible look. It reeks of scumminess. TGP thinks tunneling is scummy whereas I actually am fairly certain that tunneling is actually something town unintentionally does. TGP also calls me confident when all of my reads are very uncertain and very not confident. I feel like this is scum just twisting everything up to make some scumtells out of nothing.

Shelly I honestly felt was pretty scummy this round but I will not state anything on her since we already got a flip and she was town.

Alonzo is one of the people that caught my attention even in my ~salty~ phase and still is in my town book. The reasoning is that most his perspectives I think are much more likely to come from town than scum. The mena SR coming in wasn't scummy bc scums easiest thing to do is choose one out of {Bm, Noraa} and yeet them to hell. Alonzo's unvote soon after makes me really like thinking of that slot as town bc I also started off SRing mena but then TRing.

Teacher's entrance is a load of fluff which is an interesting take considering we moved out of rvs pretty fast and he was a bit late entering. The more you see of teacher, the more towny he seems. He moves into good questions really fast and almost all of his questions prompt or try to prompt good discussion that move the game forward. Town book. Strong TR.

Ico's entrance was ... interesting and gave me a null read on them but then their switch from mena to me and then off of me was very scummy. I felt like Ico came in and tried to pocket me(defends me all over the place despite saying they didn't want to take a defensive stance on me) but then realized I was great limbait and decided to start setting me up to be the day 1 lim. Ico pushes that NoraavBM is TvT but then flips and calls me scum. Idk I dont like the flip flopping.

Datisi focuses on me too much. His ISO reflects it and I find it scummy. It looks like very low-key tunneling that hidden really well.

iamausername is a null read. Idk not much to say there. Their reads r interesting takes and I generally agree with them but I'm not feeling immense towniness here so I think they belong in null.

Bob lurks a lil. cherry picks interesting things to reply to.

Datisi tunnels quite a bit imo. I think he'll go to my town lean for that.

TGP's switch from Noraa to BM is terrible. I hatehatehatehate. Switch to shelly over one post is scummy as well. Sheeps some newbtown reads on me. Strong SR now. Backtracks and says the TR on me is weak and I basically shouldn't question it otherwise it'll disappear. The post was a bit of a "threat" TGP is also very fence sitty as shown in post 650.

Bob clings to BMvNoraa. Reasserts my slight scum lean. He never tries to solve anything else.

see posts like 630 are why I dislike BM.

I admit I got a bit tired rereading so I ended up skimming a lot of the in between pages. 84 pages is a lot and it took me ~3 hours to read it all even when more than half was skimmed.

Scum:

Ico, Bob, Datisi, BM, TGP (in no particular order)

Null:

Iamausername

Town:
Mena, Taylor, Pii/Bunno, Alonzo, Teacher (in no particular order)


Most scum: TGP(even tho their posts got better later)

Most town: Alonzo/Teacher

Added on Sunday:
Holy fuck that flash wagon on Taylor... y'all literally hammered before I took one look at the thread. I logged onto ms and saw mod's pm that day 2 had started, checked the thread and it was locked. I thought mod hadn't opened thread yet until I saw the thread was night phase and Taylor was limmed in a literal 3 pages or something. Bm is confscum so that's our lim today but even tho its decided, we have to talk things thru bc we already mislimmed twice and wasted away day 2's time. We can't let scum!BM self hammer and waste our discussion time.
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Post Post #3496 (isolation #581) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:21 am

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Ah shit wrong thread :facepalm:
btw I wanna see de mafi pt *-*
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Post Post #3500 (isolation #582) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:12 am

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the mafia members butchered my name up >:(
But also
"Noraa vt?" - Datisi
"Prob" - Bob

that's going into my wiki cuz it got a chuckle
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Post Post #3503 (isolation #583) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:02 am

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>the Noraa: awesome I'll kill mena tonight :D
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