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Sup fam, it's ya boi. I've gotta jet for work now but I'll post later.
Obligatory since shelly is there and they're always wolf
VOTE: BigElephant
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This is a stretchIn post 21, JohnnyFarrar wrote:"*Casts vote*
Oops that might get pushback
*here's a dumb reason*"
Thought process of a page 1 scum
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In post 21, JohnnyFarrar wrote:"*Casts vote*
Oops that might get pushback
*here's a dumb reason*"
Thought process of a page 1 scum
It’s not funny, it’s hilariousIn post 24, Big Elephant wrote:hey I have a question: is scumreading the mod funny? personally, I do not think so.
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They’re in the Mafia PT so they’re mafia, trust me on this because I’m in thereIn post 25, derp wrote:i have an even better question: who scumread the mod?Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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In post 31, MiniVirgo wrote:
They’re in the Mafia PT so they’re mafia, trust me on this because I’m in thereIn post 25, derp wrote:i have an even better question: who scumread the mod?
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And you’ve read me correctly both times owo , one I claimed an impossible role but that game doesn’t exist to me anymore lolIn post 33, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: MiniVirgo
I played JV twice, and they were scum both times. This hydra is obviously an attempt to channel the funding for their terrorist organization without being detected by the IRS.
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Who posted thisIn post 44, Big Elephant wrote:har har har
VOTE: derp
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Should we be hypo claiming in this setup considering there’s a cop a silent bus driverHydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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Also a Cop is only 50% reliable due to the scum bus drive
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We should never tell the Cop who to check, as scum have a bus drive and it has higher priority than the Town one.In post 52, Big Elephant wrote:
gamblers = confirmed badIn post 28, MiniVirgo wrote:Obligatory since shelly is there and they're always wolf
OMGUS! VOTE: MiniVirgo
imo, im not good at mech but I think town bus driver should *avoid* driving nulls (cop invest nulls) and drive townreads with scumreads to outWIFOM the nightkillIn post 48, MiniVirgo wrote:Should we be hypo claiming in this setup considering there’s a cop a silent bus driver
I think hypoclaiming is a good idea
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We should really just hypo who we "bus drive" and who we "copped", although still iffy on the latter as it might give away the cop via some non-cops being wrong etc.
pedit: Hypo'ing cop is not as important as the bus drive, as the latter can mess with the former if unaware.
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Also like ass that was an accident, you did that to egopost on your main didn't ya
And yeah scum can self bus drive
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1. OofersIn post 55, yessiree wrote:A couple things for this setup
One, I don't think it was ever played before. (correct me if im wrong) So we're in uncharted territory
Two, mafia will try to mess with cop results with their factional bus. Will most likely happen they think cop will check one of them. This means reduced cop effectiveness, that said, town should still aim to maximize cop's effectiveness
Three, town BD *should* try to protect the most pro-town voice
2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn'tevertell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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This was from JVIn post 65, MiniVirgo wrote:
1. OofersIn post 55, yessiree wrote:A couple things for this setup
One, I don't think it was ever played before. (correct me if im wrong) So we're in uncharted territory
Two, mafia will try to mess with cop results with their factional bus. Will most likely happen they think cop will check one of them. This means reduced cop effectiveness, that said, town should still aim to maximize cop's effectiveness
Three, town BD *should* try to protect the most pro-town voice
2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn'tevertell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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Is my theory trueIn post 63, Big Elephant wrote:UNVOTE:
Light early TR on yessiree for thinking about setup and solving, and same for JV (though JV is very good scum)
pedit: thats a spicy theory :eyes
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I think we should just do something likeIn post 64, Big Elephant wrote:just dont give results for the "copped" and let the real cop soft somehow? or just have very good reads and be a great scumhunter
or just claim innos as hypo
btw where is mini
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That way we have a 50% clear on any town that the real cop hypoclaimed, more or less chance depending on who and when it was.
Also mini is busy, but they'll post soon.
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That's gonna get really annoying until I get into a habit lol
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I'll send a few links soon, but in general when hypoclaiming NEVER fake a guilty and if a Cop does get a guilty, they should claim and out it most likely
Also scum will almost likely just yeet their scummiest or towniest member to not get caught by the Cop.
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*cries in shouldn't say who the cop should check but you do it anyway*
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I think Yessiree, Elephant is town.
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P1 -> P5 for the scum transport meaning the kill goes to 5In post 87, yessiree wrote:
im trying to think if this is really a disadvantage for the SBD to resolve before TBD but just to make sureIn post 73, Big Elephant wrote:
not really imo, but i need to think about this more but at first glance i think scum would try to use SBD to make sure their kill doesn't get interfered with TBD(?)In post 65, MiniVirgo wrote:2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn't ever tell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.
@MOD if both bus drives choose the same 2 targets {P1,P5} and the kill is sent to P1, is the kill directed to P5, or re-directed to P1?
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@Not_Mafia, do you not see how it would benefit us? If you can't can you explain?Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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I think shelly and I are both super paranoid of the other, shelly's really good at pocketing people so beware lol
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I thought hypo-claiming was saying it the day afterIn post 157, Almost50 wrote:But seriously, hypo claiming is a bad idea IMHO, because Scum also have a factional BD.
N1 - Bussing X and Y
D2 - Hypo: Bussed X and Y
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Yeah I see the issue with beforehand but afterwards would be benefical, if the town!BD dies. We put heavy salt on a claimed Cops result.In post 181, Almost50 wrote:IF that's what you meant, then I guess it's fine. The problem was with people suggesting we hypo claim BD beforehand and then the Cop decides where to check. I don't see a major problem with the hypo claiming after the fact.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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That’s nai for them, they attract heat as either alignment.In post 193, JohnnyFarrar wrote:She draws some undeserved scumreads. I recently replaced into a game that lost it's whole first day to Shelly vs. The world shenanigans and then she flipped town
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Does that mean I haveIn post 187, Almost50 wrote:I am not even "scum" hunting at this time. I am more "town" hunting and will ry to solve via PoE. Neither Elephant nor Prof made it to my TRs list, so I guess you're entitled to SR them both.
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I think both Johnny and MWNN are easy town. Elephant is a light TR since they haven't full aggro'd yet but that's a bias read.
Redados, do you follow the same reads as shelly. Either answer could you explain it.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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In post 205, MiniVirgo wrote:I think both Johnny and MWNN are easy town. Elephant is a light TR since they haven't full aggro'd yet but that's a bias read.
Redados, do you follow the same reads as shelly. Either answer could you explain it.
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Why did you copy my exact questionIn post 211, Big Elephant wrote:btw, MiniMegabyte, do you follow the same reads as JacksonVirgo. Either answer could you explain it.
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As a matter of fact I believe I follow the majority as JV is my better half haha.In post 211, Big Elephant wrote:btw, MiniMegabyte, do you follow the same reads as JacksonVirgo. Either answer could you explain it.
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The only thing I would say is I’m not as quick to put a slight TR on your slot not just yet I’m too paranoid for that
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It's the start of the game, shitposting is nai. Their general tone is townie to me, but when they post content that may change.In post 207, Big Elephant wrote:
why is johnny townIn post 205, MiniVirgo wrote:I think both Johnny and MWNN are easy town. Elephant is a light TR since they haven't full aggro'd yet but that's a bias read.
tell me how shitpushing, fluffing and providing meta without analysing the current game is town-aligned
also redados been gone
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Incorrect, I'm not really good at faking tone (at least from my perspective) and I find it much easier to do mechanical things like claiming and/or trying to mech-clear myself as scum, ignoring claiming PGO in a normal lelIn post 219, Big Elephant wrote:
fwiw tone is not the most accurate way to read people and the easiest thing to fake as scumIn post 215, MiniVirgo wrote:It's the start of the game, shitposting is nai. Their general tone is townie to me, but when they post content that may change.
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Tone reading early game is where my most accurate d1 reads come from, I can show you a newbie game that I scum-read both scum D1 because of it if you really wanna see.
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So in other words, yes you do. Could you link me to a game/post from another game in which you were doing so?In post 218, Big Elephant wrote:In post 217, shellyc wrote:i wouldn't use the word pocket but im liberal with TRs (and SRs) as town, so it can be perceived as pocketing.
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That is a terrible motto to live by holy shit lolIn post 220, Big Elephant wrote:good artists imitate, great artists steal
mini being paranoid is slightly town!AI (I think) same thing happened in newbie 2032
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Spoiler:
Voted initially and changed immediately, then started shading a joke. I think Johnny called that vote switch out as well, which is town-points from me I guess.
Ima be a shelly and go
+ 5 town points to RM.. I mean Johnny.
I like their posts which say that mech-talk is easy to do as scum, which it 100% is as it's called iioa. Which I completely doubt shelly overlooked considering they've been a wiki-book worm.
In post 165, derp wrote:aw come on take back ur sr on derp as well
Derp's posts about reading them as town feels extremely gross to me, as it makes me think they're being super self conscience but we'll see.In post 179, derp wrote:u should just tr me its free town cred
i promise u that u can trust me i am a decent guy
VOTE: Derp
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Professor Mafia hasn't got much atm but what they do have I agree with so that can be a TR.In post 97, Professor Mafia wrote:Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.
I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw
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I think you're trying to pocket me, but I also think you do that as Town. As why I am asking those questionsIn post 228, Big Elephant wrote:
no JV you are at opposite ends of my solveIn post 225, MiniVirgo wrote:
Professor Mafia hasn't got much atm but what they do have I agree with so that can be a TR.In post 97, Professor Mafia wrote:Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.
I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw
VOTE: Big Elephant
do you think im scum, if you do, why arent you voting me.
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It amazes me how much Shelly hates pocketing but yet does seem to do it a lot...
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I don't remember that post at all uwuIn post 232, Big Elephant wrote:In post 224, MiniVirgo wrote:I like their posts which say that mech-talk is easy to do as scum, which it 100% is as it's called iioa. Which I completely doubt shelly overlooked considering they've been a wiki-book worm.In post 100, Big Elephant wrote:I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone
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I might have to just look through your town games to see if you pocket or not, which may change my reads.
I'm super tired so I might try and sleep, probably won't but I'll give it a shot.
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I just need your d1 as we're in d1In post 238, Big Elephant wrote:
I think I only have two completed ones and bth I got almost insta-elimmed.In post 237, MiniVirgo wrote:I might have to just look through your town games to see if you pocket or not, which may change my reads.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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From JVIn post 239, MiniVirgo wrote:
I just need your d1 as we're in d1In post 238, Big Elephant wrote:
I think I only have two completed ones and bth I got almost insta-elimmed.In post 237, MiniVirgo wrote:I might have to just look through your town games to see if you pocket or not, which may change my reads.Hydra account for JacksonVirgo and MiniMegabyte- MiniVirgo
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Cause it seems as tho she can’t think for herself
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Yes, it is now against forum site rules uwu
pedit: Oh no we're dead :c
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Why do you think A50 is wolf?In post 250, Big Elephant wrote:congrats on overtaking mith
MiniVirgo has died and must stop posting immediately.
serious talk: kinda actually think A50 might be red here
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