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Post Post #3475 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:37 pm

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In post 3471, Tayl0r Swift wrote:it seems like if all townies die then 3p aligned with town lose right? this seems off.
Town is town by any other name. If I am alive then not "all townies" are dead. As I told Math, this works similar to a 2016 game called Gitsou where we had FOUR different TOWN factions, and they all won together or lost together. It was much more complicated than this one with an additional 3P faction that also won with Town (unless Town picked wrong and then they'd have been enemies AFTER all Scum were eliminated). The five factions wer up against 2 scum factions AND a Cultist. It was CRAZY (and one of the most enjoyable games EVER)

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Post Post #3476 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm

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Remember that. Nero? You and I were rival town leaders (by role) too. We were both Vigs iirc

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Post Post #3477 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:42 pm

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sure
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #3478 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:46 pm

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In post 3038, MathBlade wrote:Assuming you’re town rule of three implies one of Mastina/Nero/you is scum.
jesus christ this is dumb

maybe math is town afterall
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Post Post #3479 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 3475, Almost50 wrote:Town is town by any other name.
Not for the purposes of wincons...?

I would doubt that the town wincon is "all anti-town factions are dead and at least one non-anti-town player is alive."
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Post Post #3480 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 3076, Tayl0r Swift wrote:what are the odds A50 is a cult leader?
what are the odds that you are scum?
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Post Post #3481 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:52 pm

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In post 3479, Something_Smart wrote:I would doubt that the town wincon is "all anti-town factions are dead and at least one non-anti-town player is alive."
if you had a town wincon you'd know this isn't true.
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Post Post #3482 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 3077, April Ludgate wrote:Titus turning onto me when she has definitive proof of my role seeing her, and me having no reason to claim there is off too
A md isn't necessarily town so proof of your role isn't the AI thing you are claiming it is.
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Post Post #3483 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 3479, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3475, Almost50 wrote:Town is town by any other name.
Not for the purposes of wincons...?

I would doubt that the town wincon is "all anti-town factions are dead and at least one non-anti-town player is alive."
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Post Post #3484 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:55 pm

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I mean I have the same access to the town wincon regardless of my alignment. You're right that I should have just checked it.

Weirdly it is true that town can win despite all townies being dead, so I stand corrected even though my statement was technically right.
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Post Post #3485 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 3483, Pickaxe Pete wrote:VOTE: something_smart
are you voting me for being lazy? or did you not realize the town wincon is in the OP?
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Post Post #3486 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pm

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There's a town pm in the rules.
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Post Post #3487 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm

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I know. So what is that post indicative of besides laziness?
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Post Post #3488 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm

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Post Post #3489 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:00 pm

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The perspective from which you stated "I would doubt that the town wincon is..." sounds off.
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Post Post #3490 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:02 pm

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If you're not town, it'll come out.
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Post Post #3491 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:04 pm

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Sorry i lied taking a quick break

Sorry for messing up your wifom A50

@something smart, we literally share your wincon. It’s not difficult.

LMAO at Nero’s “all 3Ps should be treated as scum”, you’re more scummy than us now fam :lol:
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Post Post #3492 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:05 pm

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Also I was mocking april when I said we should massclaim pls don’t do that...
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Post Post #3493 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 3491, superbowl9 wrote:@something smart, we literally share your wincon. It’s not difficult.
I mean, that wasn't the part I was concerned with, but since my wincon doesn't care about town vs benign non-town either, I don't think it matters.
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Post Post #3494 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:08 pm

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Yeah, but you were mocking a mock post, so it just made you come off like you weren’t mocking to them
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Post Post #3495 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pm

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In post 3482, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3077, April Ludgate wrote:Titus turning onto me when she has definitive proof of my role seeing her, and me having no reason to claim there is off too
A md isn't necessarily town so proof of your role isn't the AI thing you are claiming it is.
Irrelevant. I already stated this. All that’s proven, or at least more likely to be true, for me to be scum, i took the deep guess on that. It’s not that deep, but it’s certifiably enough for Titus to be considered overreacting.

You guys are 3rd party claiming, we can go after you all we want. That’s on you guys to get us to trust you.
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Post Post #3496 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 pm

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In post 3479, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3475, Almost50 wrote:Town is town by any other name.
Not for the purposes of wincons...?

I would doubt that the town wincon is "all anti-town factions are dead and at least one non-anti-town player is alive."
I have no idea what you're talking about. I said explicitly that for all practical purposes we count as TOWN for the win cons of both Town and Scum.. so assuming you're town and your win con is to eliminate all threats to town my win is your win and vice versa, unless YOUR win con also states there has to be at least one "explicitly town" player alive.

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Post Post #3497 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:11 pm

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In post 3425, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3283, April Ludgate wrote:I trust Something’s analysis on this.
it's not even analysis lol, it's reading the mod posts
My dry humor goes right over everyone’s head through text.
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Post Post #3498 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 3494, April Ludgate wrote:Yeah, but you were mocking a mock post, so it just made you come off like you weren’t mocking to them
Yes I thought we were having a good laugh back there maybe we can be buddies
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Post Post #3499 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 3496, Almost50 wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about. I said explicitly that for all practical purposes we count as TOWN for the win cons of both Town and Scum.. so assuming you're town and your win con is to eliminate all threats to town my win is your win and vice versa, unless YOUR win con also states there has to be at least one "explicitly town" player alive.
I didn't check the town wincon before posting that because I am a lazy-ass. We are on the same page now.
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