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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:37 pm

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In post 3621, Titus wrote:
In post 3619, shellyc wrote:
In post 3445, PlusJOYED wrote:I think my action on shelly didn't go through but only she knows for sure. I need a harf confirmation or deconfirmation
ok so guessing loyal FN / loud visitor

you were blocked, or I was stopped
im not ascetic at all
He claimed disloyal or loyal something.
If he's disloyal, then the action on you fails if you're town.
If he's loyal, the action fails if you're scum.

We likely have limited roleblockers, given gamma's alien flip. So whatever PlusJOYED got as a result is likely accurate.
This assumes Plus is town.

Don’t get me wrong, I townread Plus.

But why are you only considering the Plus = town option?
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:37 pm

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In post 3621, Titus wrote:He claimed disloyal or loyal something.
If he's disloyal, then the action on you fails if you're town.
If he's loyal, the action fails if you're scum.
i don't get notified whether plus checked me though unless plus is loud or an FN.

I buy plus claim though, checking me is sensible given I've creamed them as scum multiple times
can you give me a list of who claimed what and who is 3p
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:40 pm

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ok shelly is conf town
i checked shelly cuz paranoia but mainly vca from her predecessor
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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 3626, shellyc wrote:
In post 3621, Titus wrote:He claimed disloyal or loyal something.
If he's disloyal, then the action on you fails if you're town.
If he's loyal, the action fails if you're scum.
i don't get notified whether plus checked me though unless plus is loud or an FN.

I buy plus claim though, checking me is sensible given I've creamed them as scum multiple times
can you give me a list of who claimed what and who is 3p
Plusjoy said his role would give you a notice. So loud, fruit vendor, or friendly neighbor with a disloyal or loyal mod work. I am sure there are others too.

What's important is that Plusjoy claims you would know if his act passed or failed.
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 3627, PlusJOYED wrote:ok shelly is conf town
i checked shelly cuz paranoia but mainly vca from her predecessor
Alright. I'll add that to my things to look at.
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:41 pm

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In post 3627, PlusJOYED wrote:ok shelly is conf town
i checked shelly cuz paranoia but mainly vca from her predecessor
So to be clear you’re claiming town and not 3P as well?
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:41 pm

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math gives off townvibes

ok solve is in {Bell, MM, DDL, Chemist, Pickaxe, April(?), TGP}
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:42 pm

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didnt read the pedits
but i hate being conftown

you just get 0 interactions at all and that sucks
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:42 pm

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In post 3607, MathBlade wrote:There’s always the theory I have been kicking around that army is also 3P but op 3P and there is no group scum.
How is that different from groupscum lol
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:43 pm

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In post 3631, shellyc wrote:math gives off townvibes

ok solve is in {Bell, MM, DDL, Chemist, Pickaxe, April(?), TGP}
Aside from missing SS, I like this suspect pool. It likely has a town or two but we can sort that out.

Why no SS?
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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:43 pm

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In post 3627, PlusJOYED wrote:ok shelly is conf town
i checked shelly cuz paranoia but mainly vca from her predecessor
This isn’t conf town.

This is assuming you are town, Shelley is town or made the 50/50 guess correctly with her teammates. It’s also a lot easier to lie and say she got nothing than something.
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:44 pm

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now where was the latest vc

I wanna look at the votes on me

im pretty sure {April MM} contains >1 scum

pedit: ehhhh convince me on SS, why is that scum
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:44 pm

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SS ISO isn't spicy at all

but tbh, GTH that's more scum!AI
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:45 pm

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plus but why would you claim like that? now on future night scum simply know to say that they didnt get a visit even if they did, right? you turned yourself from sorta a cop to a 1-shot cop.
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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:45 pm

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my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:45 pm

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In post 3636, shellyc wrote:im pretty sure {April MM} contains >1 scum
so you think it contains 2 scum? or do you think maybe theres 3 scum in that pair?
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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3635, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3627, PlusJOYED wrote:ok shelly is conf town
i checked shelly cuz paranoia but mainly vca from her predecessor
This isn’t conf town.

This is assuming you are town, Shelley is town or made the 50/50 guess correctly with her teammates. It’s also a lot easier to lie and say she got nothing than something.
so you are implying that someone online is scum

or that im smart but just treat me as newb tbh
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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.
Almost50 did. :facepalm: At least we got a clear from it.
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 3635, MathBlade wrote:This is assuming you are town, Shelley is town or made the 50/50 guess correctly with her teammates.
It's not even 50/50. If she's scum and got something and she knows you're either loyal or disloyal, then obviously she knows you're disloyal and should claim she didn't get anything.
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In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.
they did reveal it day 1 didnt they? at least one of the groups did
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:47 pm

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the "you" being +J of course
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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:my full role is odd night disloyal alignment cop inventor.
on odd nights i can target someone. if they aren't town they become a cop
best off giving the masons cop abilities

its not fully useless there's gotta be a protective
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:47 pm

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so i think the plan if i survive would be to target a50 or superbowl n3
but ill probably be dead
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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 3633, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3607, MathBlade wrote:There’s always the theory I have been kicking around that army is also 3P but op 3P and there is no group scum.
How is that different from groupscum lol
Think Titus’s mass effect game

There was a main town of humans but then there was a circular alignment grid of who you could win with.

It could be something like group 3P #1 wins with town and 3
Group 3P #3 wins with town and 1
Group 2 wins with parity of town and ignores 3P

Town wins when all of group 2 is gone

But there would be a very narrow set of town forcing the 3Ps to hunt each other or group 2 (in this case Army) wins because all the 3P are outed.

None of those are traditional scum per se but
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:48 pm

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In post 3643, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3635, MathBlade wrote:This is assuming you are town, Shelley is town or made the 50/50 guess correctly with her teammates.
It's not even 50/50. If she's scum and got something and she knows you're either loyal or disloyal, then obviously she knows you're disloyal and should claim she didn't get anything.
SS there's a flaw in this

im town
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