TheGoldenParadox's Mini Normal Review, October 2020


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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:53 pm

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ooh yay i got some awesome reviewers :))

so what i'm going for in this setup is to try to give as many players as possible agency (hence the low number of vts) and emphasize dayplay
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Post Post #4 (isolation #1) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:16 am

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okay, let's do that!

Town Indecisive Jailkeeper

Town Even-Night Neapolitan
Town Odd-Night Doctor

Town Fruit Vendor

Town Mason
Town Mason

Town 2-Shot Neighborizer

Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Traffic Analyst
Mafia 2-Shot Rolestopper
Mafia Goon


is there a good way to keep that balance while spreading out roles more (for example, making both the neapolitan and doctor 1-shot roles, and/or split the jailkeeper into an even/odd night pair?)
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Post Post #6 (isolation #2) » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:44 am

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alright. keep it indecisive, or change the gating in a different way?
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Post Post #7 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:58 pm

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i'm also good completely removing the neapolitan, or switching it to a vanilla cop, if that makes for fewer clears.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:08 pm

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Town 2-Shot Roleblocker

Town Even-Night Neapolitan
Town Odd-Night Doctor

Town Fruit Vendor

Town Mason
Town Mason

Town 2-Shot Neighborizer

Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Traffic Analyst
Mafia 2-Shot Rolestopper
Mafia Goon

alright, i think i put everything you said? let's see what mastina thinks.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:10 pm

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Spoiler: Vanilla Townie
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Vanilla Townie
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ None!
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: 2-Shot Roleblocker
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
2-Shot Roleblocker
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ Twice during the game, at Night, you may roleblock a player in the game by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, that player's active abilities will be blocked that Night.
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Even-Night Neapolitan
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are an
Even-Night Neapolitan
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ Each even-numbered Night, you may investigate a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, you will learn whether or not that player is a Vanilla Townie.
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Odd-Night Doctor
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are an
Odd-Night Doctor
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ Each odd-numbered Night, you may protect a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, that player will be protected from one kill that Night.
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Fruit Vendor
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Fruit Vendor
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ Each Night, you may give fruit to a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, your target will be informed that they received fruit (but not who sent it).
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Mason
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Mason
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ None!
Attributes
:
~ You know that [player] is Town-aligned, and may speak to them in this private topic at all times.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: 2-Shot Neighborizer
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
2-Shot Neighborizer
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ Twice during the game, at Night, you may neighborize a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, regardless of whether you live or die, that player will be added to your Neighborhood at the start of the next Day.
Attributes
:
~ You have a Neighborhood here, where you may post at any time.
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Traffic Analyst
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Traffic Analyst
, and aligned with the
Mafia
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ You or any of your teammates may perform the factional kill once per Night phase.
~ Each Night, you may investigate a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, you will learn whether or not that player is able to privately communicate with another living player (you cannot distinguish between a player who is alone in a private topic, and a player who does not have private topic access at all).
Attributes
:
~ The other Mafia members are [player] and [player]. You share a factional thread located here.
~ You may not investigate a player and kill a player in the same Night phase.
You win if at least one
Mafia
member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: 2-Shot Rolestopper
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
2-Shot Rolestopper
, and aligned with the
Mafia
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ You or any of your teammates may perform the factional kill once per Night phase.
~ Twice during the game, at Night, you may rolestop a player by sending a PM to the moderator. If your action succeeds, other Night actions will be unable to affect that player in any way.
Attributes
:
~ The other Mafia members are [player] and [player]. You share a factional thread located here.
~ You may not rolestop a player and kill a player in the same Night phase.
You win if at least one
Mafia
member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


Spoiler: Mafia Goon
PlayerNameWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Goon
, and aligned with the
Mafia
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ You or any of your teammates may perform the factional kill once per Night phase.
Attributes
:
~ The other Mafia members are [player] and [player]. You share a factional thread located here.
You win if at least one
Mafia
member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.


i'll post the results pms and ruleset in a bit, just gotta get everything together
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Post Post #12 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:32 pm

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Neopolitan:


Your action was successful. Your target is a Vanilla Townie.

Your action was successful. Your target is not a Vanilla Townie.

Your action failed, and you received no result.


Fruit Vendor Target:


You received a piece of fruit last Night.


Neighborizer Target:


You were neighborized last night, and were added to a Neighborhood with [player] (and [player]). Your role name has not been changed, and you may post in the neighborhood at all times.


Traffic Analyst:


Your action was successful. Your target is capable of private communication with another living player.

Your action was successful. Your target is not capable of private communication with another living player.

Your action failed, and you received no result.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:56 pm

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Spoiler: Rules
Rules
  1. If you’re tempted to skim the rules, here are the ones more unique to my ruleset:

  2. This game will use Reasonable Action Resolution, NOT Natural Action Resolution. They will resolve similarly in almost all cases, but keep this in mind.
  3. This
    is my color. Don’t use it or otherwise attempt to impersonate the mod.
  4. Once you are dead, do not post in the main thread. No exceptions.
  5. PM me all Night Actions, unless you are a member of the Mafia, in which case you can just bold the action in your PT.
  6. All Private Topics are open at all times during the Night and Day.
  7. I do not have a high tolerance for toxicity. This is a game, so treat it as such. Personal attacks are not tolerated and will earn you consequences.
  1. Obviously, all site-wide rules apply.
  2. If any rule is modified or added by me, I will inform the players in-thread.
  3. Please regard these rules. Have fun. Please don’t make me replace you.
  4. PM me or post
    @mod
    in thread to get my attention.
  5. Please use vote tags to vote, and avoid abbreviation. You can vote using

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    [vote]TheGoldenParadox[/vote]
    I will be using Thesp’s autormated votecounter, so spell names out fully whenever possible. Vote gambits are at your own risk: if I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote.
  6. Follow your win condition. Gambits are fine, while deliberate gamethrowing isn’t. Make the game fun and fair.
  7. Be respectful to me and your fellow players. It’s a game. Don’t take stuff personally.
  8. If you’re V/LA, tell me in thread or via PM. I may extend the day if a V/LA player cannot post.
  9. If you’re going to be V/LA for more than 5 days with no posting at all or minimal posting, just ask for replacement via PM. Otherwise, try not to replace out. It makes the game more tedious and less fun for everyone. If you do replace out, notify me via PM, not in the thread.
  10. Don’t quote my PMs, either real or fabricated. Paraphrasing is allowed.
  11. Don’t talk about other ongoing games here!
    Also, don’t talk about this game outside of here and/or your PTs. This rule is important!
  12. Do not post a video or image that contains any game-related information.
  13. Don’t use cryptography or hidden/encrypted text. Breadcrumbing is okay, but don’t try to get past this rule. Try not to use text smaller than the text I’m using right now.
  14. No provable randomness of any kind.
  15. Depending on the severity of the offence, I may take disciplinary action including warning, force-replacement, or modkill.
  16. Have fun!
Deadlines
  1. Day phases will last 10 days.
  2. Night phases will last 48 hours.
  3. if for any reason the deadline is extended this will be announced in thread.
  4. Players will be prodded after 48 hours of inactivity during the day. If players are on V/LA, their prod timer runs at half speed. Prod timers run at half speed during weekends.
  5. If a player, after prodded, doesn’t post for 24 hours, or receives 3 prods over the course of the game, they will be replaced. If a player posts while I am searching for a replacement, they will be allowed to continue in the game.
  6. Posts that do not contain game content (“prodges”) will not count for purposes of prod timers.
  7. Prod-dodging twice will count the same as one prod. Prod-dodging the third time will incur a force-replacement. Be active!


Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Townie Role PM
Vanilla TownieWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Vanilla Townie
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ None!
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:53 am

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i personally prefer RAR - it's an easier to use action resolution system for me as a mod and a player, and i think that generally it's better at resolving ambiguity. that being said, especially in this game i don't really think it matters, so i'm good with switching to NAR if it creates less hassle.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:15 pm

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Sounds good, I'll edit my ruleset.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:17 pm

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Spoiler: Rules
Rules
  1. If you’re tempted to skim the rules, here are the ones more unique to my ruleset:

  2. This
    is my color. Don’t use it or otherwise attempt to impersonate the mod.
  3. Once you are dead, do not post in the main thread. No exceptions.
  4. PM me all Night Actions, unless you are a member of the Mafia, in which case you can just bold the action in your PT.
  5. All Private Topics are open at all times during the Night and Day.
  6. I do not have a high tolerance for toxicity. This is a game, so treat it as such. Personal attacks are not tolerated and will earn you consequences.
  1. Obviously, all site-wide rules apply.
  2. If any rule is modified or added by me, I will inform the players in-thread.
  3. Please regard these rules. Have fun. Please don’t make me replace you.
  4. PM me or post
    @mod
    in thread to get my attention.
  5. Please use vote tags to vote, and avoid abbreviation. You can vote using

    Code: Select all

    [vote]TheGoldenParadox[/vote]
    I will be using Thesp’s autormated votecounter, so spell names out fully whenever possible. Vote gambits are at your own risk: if I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote.
  6. Follow your win condition. Gambits are fine, while deliberate gamethrowing isn’t. Make the game fun and fair.
  7. Be respectful to me and your fellow players. It’s a game. Don’t take stuff personally.
  8. If you’re V/LA, tell me in thread or via PM. I may extend the day if a V/LA player cannot post.
  9. If you’re going to be V/LA for more than 5 days with no posting at all or minimal posting, just ask for replacement via PM. Otherwise, try not to replace out. It makes the game more tedious and less fun for everyone. If you do replace out, notify me via PM, not in the thread.
  10. Don’t quote my PMs, either real or fabricated. Paraphrasing is allowed.
  11. Don’t talk about other ongoing games here!
    Also, don’t talk about this game outside of here and/or your PTs. This rule is important!
  12. Do not post a video or image that contains any game-related information.
  13. Don’t use cryptography or hidden/encrypted text. Breadcrumbing is okay, but don’t try to get past this rule. Try not to use text smaller than the text I’m using right now.
  14. This game will use Natural Action Resolution. If you need me to clarify potential role interactions, PM me or bold in-thread.
  15. No provable randomness of any kind.
  16. Depending on the severity of the offence, I may take disciplinary action including warning, force-replacement, or modkill.
  17. Have fun!
Deadlines
  1. Day phases will last 10 days.
  2. Night phases will last 48 hours.
  3. if for any reason the deadline is extended this will be announced in thread.
  4. Players will be prodded after 48 hours of inactivity during the day. If players are on V/LA, their prod timer runs at half speed. Prod timers run at half speed during weekends.
  5. If a player, after prodded, doesn’t post for 24 hours, or receives 3 prods over the course of the game, they will be replaced. If a player posts while I am searching for a replacement, they will be allowed to continue in the game.
  6. Posts that do not contain game content (“prodges”) will not count for purposes of prod timers.
  7. Prod-dodging twice will count the same as one prod. Prod-dodging the third time will incur a force-replacement. Be active!


Spoiler: Sample Vanilla Townie Role PM
Vanilla TownieWelcome to

GAMENAME!


You are a
Vanilla Townie
, and aligned with the
Town
. You may post in the thread and vote as you see fit.
Abilities
:
~ None!
Attributes
:
~ None!
You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.


The game thread is here.

Please confirm by responding with your role and alignment.

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