Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

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I think it’s interesting Bork is on the joyed wagon but back on the 420 wagon despite joyed being one of the primary pusher of said wagon. When 420 was a big wagon there was one point when joyed and Bork were both on it and then another when joyed and bear were on it while Bork had swapped over to joyed, to only go back to 420 on d3 and sit there while we all clowned the bear (I think it’s a fair assumption that scum wouldn’t want to bus there?)

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This game is a chore to catch up and he’s prob busy irl so I get it

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My question is if it isn’t us or Bork, why alien maid? It makes 0 sense, I severely doubt that scum is banking on town Bork or town us surviving late unless it’s someone hoping to take advantage of paranoia down the line? But even then isn’t the smarter play to kill us before we catch on?

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I’m not pushing you with it I’m thinking Bork, relax

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Final Bear wagon was us, bell, April, morph, bear.

I don’t think morphs interactions with bear say s/s

I know I’m town and April is town

Do you think bell is scum?

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But why does a Bell Bear Joyed team alien maid n1?

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Dunno I think he’s asleep

He’s kinda overwhelmed by all the new roles I told him most of them were similar to normals because I remembered them being similar to it but now I look like an ass lol

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I think that’s the bottom line. Someone in our bloc is it. They either were self preserving or needed the whole bloc in one piece for more places to hide.

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I don’t think bell or Iv are mechanic heavy players

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Us Bork you muffin (bulge who is clear)

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It’s that but I candidly know I am more liable to die after Bork should Bork flip green regardless of my sheer obvtownity so I don’t think it’ll be my call. I’m still concerned about muffin but I think this normal me concerned about muffin so meh

I don’t think it’s you guys? I like your interactions with bear as t/s

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I think April seems like an obvious choice

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They’re saying with alien as such an easy counter to bomb why wouldn’t they believe it

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Bell is calling the alien the vortex. They say your avatar is a vortex around the cat and you are obvscum on purpose

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Bell you remember when you didn’t believe I was good at obvtowning in my element

Just took a bit

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I mean, the alternative wagon to plusjoyed that I was trying to get was midwaybear... so I can see why scum might’ve been reluctant to hop of plusjoyed

I don’t remember exactly what I was responding to but that’s something to keep in mind I think.

-innocentvillager

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Basically I feel like scum would’ve rather had plusjoyed go than midwaybear so they probably planned the whole fake hammer thing from bear to distance further because bear was an alternative target. I think scum 3 was on board with plus wagon and fake hammer

-innocentvillager

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Basically I feel like scum would’ve rather had plusjoyed go than midwaybear so they probably planned the whole fake hammer thing from bear to distance further because bear was an alternative target. I think scum 3 was on board with plus wagon and fake hammer

-innocentvillager

Do you think that 3rd scum were on or off PlusJoyed's wagon?

I think third scum is zmuffinman or remilia

I don’t really scumread either of them but that’s where I’m at by PoE, I don’t really think anyone else is scum

Feels kind of dumb if April is scum neighborizer that we like can’t vote out scum today

Think it’s *possible that scum!muffin wanted to do the whole fake hammer thing with bear, the timing fits the most (muffin vote then bear hammers soon after). If muffin isn’t scum that means scum came up with the plan in 25 min lurking in the thread and bear came in and just did it, on balance from that alone seems more likely from scum!muffin and the vote was planned.

Then again idk about the mechgame stuff, this is mostly based on day play.

-innocentvillager

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I don’t think it makes sense for scum not to bus there

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I have to reread end of d2 hold on

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wait, that happened?

that's my newbie-scum tell!

I checked your ISO and you didn't comment about this at all when it went down as far as my skim could tell?


It was a major point made of in multiple player's posts...

Wow, his super sick newbie scumtell that he conveniently forgot to talk about when lots of people talked about it

Lol it’s stuff like this that give me some pause on muffin, like does he really bring this up as scum -_-

-innocentvillager

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dont really think notnoddy is a good enough actor to do start of D2 as scum who removalised mariaboy

tbh i dont actually care about that stuff unless im scum lol

(also wasnt referring to anything he said about me d2, just the idea that he-as-scum goes CYA MARIABOY then comes up with an "OH NOES WE GETTING ASPLODED I GOTTA GET LAST THOUGHTS OUT" plan that doesnt reallllly achieve anything)

I don’t really get how somehow me-Maria are confirmed not partners makes this more likely?

Like, how I am not a good enough actor to pull this off but I was a good enough actor to fake this if Maria IS scum with me...?

Feels like you 180’d here for a reason I don’t understand

Also, I’m not a bad actor but never been good at scum

-innocentvillager

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Looking back he did kinda blame you guys for his vote and it does seem a touch ironic the day ended so rapidly after he had been abstaining his vote all game (and has been since)

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Sorry, is that a "I don't think muffin scum does this" thing or a "Muffin scum does this thing and this is another brick in my wallpost of a case" thing?

It’s just me SOC posting lol. Like does scum!muffin who presumably knows if they haven’t mentioned the Newbie scum tell really bring it up like, “hey, this was my tell all along” when anyone can go skim his iso and see he hadn’t said anything about it before. It’s like a thoughtless zero towncred objective tank of his thread image that I think scum!muffin thinks twice before doing

Kind of a light read, but like, posts like these make me have a twinge of doubt about muffin in the PoE.

-innocentvillager

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Maybe I’m just wrong in that I’d expect scum!muffin to be more careful in his mentionings of midwaybear/plusjoyed to not make associations look worse. That post didn’t seem like muffin cautiously talking about their scum buddies. If this premise is wrong then there’s no read here.

-innocentvillager

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I bet April isn't going to be around tomorrow. Pretty obvious that you were just trying to set me up with Plus EoD. Was pretty sure that "suspicion" was just a bunch of garbo anyways.
Whatever, you can try to misclown me tomorrow but I really doubt you’ll get any traction.

Uhhh this is a post alright

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This is when the publicized target was muffin ftr

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Yes

I just was looking at flavorclaims and was seeing if there was any correlation between fake and real claims I could reanalyze the massclaim with and saw that

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It’s also just weird to think Bork would leave his vote on the same wagon as his buddy for so long, then bus, then go back to that same wagon again afterwards.

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IV was wondering if there’s potential that the alien n1 was to line us and Bork up for chain clowns but idk how I feel about it because I still think it doesn’t make sense if you want to line us up to elim you’d have to target our bloc to weaken the monopoly on town

But borks claim is the only claim that adds merit to the day power the alien has so meh

@BULGE you didn’t answer I don’t think- still no April?

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I see you bulge

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But borks claim is the only claim that adds merit to the day power the alien has so meh

do you mean this like it would make sense for both roles to be in the setup, or like that bork would know to claim something that sounds complimentary to the scum alienthing?

A little of a and b

Borks role is the only town claimed role that makes sense for the alien to remove dayplay too, but it could be an explicit red herring to make his fakeclaim more believable

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Yeah neither one of us is super hard shoving the other it’s just kinda how the game state makes sense

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I’m also surprised how low I am on your list bulge but I’m assuming it’s a byproduct of the situation re claims than anything else

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Mhm

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that’s still too low for me

I just don’t understand that S_S kill. It’s still bugging me now. Especially if they planned to yeet maid who was all but a free day 2 clown.

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Is it weird to say I miss April at this point

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If you want I can say I miss wisdom and metal sonic

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I mean candidly Bork if you flip green I auto die tomorrow then flip green and we can sit in the dead PT thanking our lucky stars we aren’t in cylo lol

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You can vote me first idc

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I mean bulge there’s a very real chance you’ll be either aliened or dead by that point so I don’t think it matters

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Why does morph scum not let Maid sui bomb us n1? Who do you think would be the n2 alien of theirs if they were scum?

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I can agree with that

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Because I’m obvtown snd it has to be someone in our bloc, obv(town)

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Bork I just realized you asked me why I didn’t hate morph bear interactions

Why didn’t you follow up with me on it?

The only one I get weird about was that convo around the hammer but it felt too openwolfy to be wolf

I liked the meta discussion snd calling him out on not correcting their inadequate meta tell

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Bulge am I pocketed

I feel like I’m pocketed by someone

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All good I just was curious

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It was morph iirc

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Rolecop, silencer, goon?

They also were the first to come close to the setup too

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i could see midwaybear busing maybe but i sincerely doubt he actually realised that was a hammer lol

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Well what Secret Tunnels said about being in the same PT with April is true. I just don't expect any conclusive results to occur tonight, but we'll see.

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I’ve had the muffinoia since d1

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Maybe scum also has

A PT SPY

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I’m just memeing relax

I went back and saw the postgame of everyone being pissed about it and thought it was hilarious

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I agree with both of you

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My gut says similar things

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Side note in joyeds readslist he has muffin snd maid as not same alignment

Idk if it means anything but I noticed it

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What does she think about muffin

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Bulge I only wanted April to target me so I could deliberately misconstrue the hood and fuck with you tbh

ARWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I think April should target between us or muffin candidly

Are you kidding me
no, not you in 1000 years

not saying I want to point april anywhere
but what's wrong w/ these choices in particular?

@morph

Look at the convo between them starting here. It’s right after plus claimed scum idk if I feel this is S/S

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Idk bell I honestly could be grasping for any hopes that Bork can be town

I have a nasty habit of it

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I’ve done a lot for the mechanic solve too

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So where are you guys looking then

Muffin?

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I mean yeah

But you knew SOMEONE had to ask

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I mean if you read flip on muffin we can just quickwagon him before he comes online

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If you told me when I signed up for this game all of us would be alive d4 I would have called you a liar

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Just hear him out bell relax

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IV is basically a more eccentric me

I also candidly was kinda faking it til I made it. I did genuinely hope the power of friendship would show you guys the light but I was kinda stressing mid d1. My thing I’m most nervous of this game was you lot bc since I’ve been back my friends have been my Achilles heel and I’ve been trying to be very careful not to get pocketed this game bc I *really* wanted this game to be a breakout game for me regardless of alignment.

My first step was making sure I’m super townread so I can work with whichever of youse was town snd if I couldn’t knock that out it makes my life harder bc similar to what bulge is saying it’s harder to get reads in a weird position in town

But I also expected us to start dropping n1 so it’s honestly making it worse? Even with us hitting two scum I got cold feet on one bc it felt way too easy and I did power through the other one but now it feels like one of us has to be it and I’m really kinda all jumbled up

I also forgot why I started typing this but yeah

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Sorry think has probably been answered but why can’t we just wait until ELO to flip Bork? I’m confused

-innocentvillager

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If anyone wants to meta a recent scumgame of mine you can look to Mini Normal 2160. Idk how helpful it will be because every game is different and I take a very different style. But it can give you a sense of how much anxiety I get as scum.

-innocentvillager

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VOTE: muffin

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I think the best course of action if we are wrong is let Bork get to cylo and he calls who hammers him? Like basically he votes himself and whoever he picks has to vote him or dies?

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And muffins staunchly pushing no clown the day we clowned mwb

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His approach to me at the start was the approach I’d expect scum to take there too- he was the first of all of youse to call me town

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It’s just a throwaway thought

His only vote of the game was on plus too fwiw

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I’m not in the mental state to be here tonight, I’m sorry. I’ll see if I am tomorrow. Really bad day.

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i realised this game's a chore to post in and i don't really care about it all that much since it's basically autopilot here with a single town read here

so just bet the game on bell and go like me -> noddy derp hydra -> fferycabd hammers bork to end the game

it's prob still bork though

stop wasting so many pages talking about nothing and just get it over with

sure I’m fine with this I think

-innocentvillager

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bork’s accusations of bell definitely makes a lot of sense coming from scum!bork. He needs another elimable slot other than us and muffin. He’s been townreading us and muffin for a while so it makes the most sense to try and cast doubt on someone else to make it to the end. If it’s not him we’ll find out in lylo anyway and he can decide the final 3

-innocentvillager

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hi guys

what did we need from me

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@ST in particular since I feel you've on on record w/ a similar stance that Bell is taking toward himself: I want to know what you think Bell is talking about here

are you talking about how hes trying to steal my shtick? I do agree its weird hes as pathetic as he is but i still feel like if he was scum he owuld have been sussed out by now

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apathetic not pathetic

im sry bell :<

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Are you asking why I think bell is town? Bottom line is he feels so similar to how he was in that game I played with him I forgot the number. I also think his read progression re me is genuine much to the same degree you liked mine re muffin- he’s always had me on the border of his pool but has deferred me to those who are more used to me read wise.

I think now hes felt weird today but this whole game has felt weird today. We’re on page 303 lol.

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I frankly think IV is in a similar boat? He’s just latching on to his familiar faces (much like we all are) and bell happens to be one of them

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Uhhhh

Cat people

SOS

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I’d say we could bet the game on me but I feel like that’s a bit dramatic

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I don’t get why scum bell would go aggro here this is not a good idea on how to play this as scum at all

We’re in a game of survivor at this point, you don’t go around poking at the alliances

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Or we let Bork decide who he wants in cylo and to hammer him

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I either want to be the bet the game on read or not in cylo pls

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What does that mean Bork

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Just have everyone request an order and average the locations or something

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Meh

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I sure as fuck don’t want to be in cylo with morph snd Bork should this all head south

No thank you

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I’d really rather not but if I have to be I have to

I just hate cylo

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Can we stop focusing on this and just focus on clowning the scum before cylo please

This is stressing me out

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I’m fine with surviving until cylo and not having to vote.

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I’m not okay with being in cylo if I have to hammer nor am I okay with muffin being the hammer.

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Did we kill muffin yet?

-innocentvillager

Guess not

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Dumb question

Do you think muffin asked this explicitly to throw us all into this “I wanna die first” circlejerk expecting Bork to prefer he hammers

Or am I aprilling rn

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I think it has to be in Bork or muffin

But idk

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I mean if scum aren’t killing the confirmed I don’t see any route to victory for them.

So idk.

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Just assuming there’s “but idk” at the bottom of every post of mine from now until the end of the game

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Clown me before then, that read is about as strong as the reads on the two flipped scum.

Don’t let muffin get to cylo is all I care about.

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I get the feeling you’re telling me I have to vote you out.



I’m fine with quick night obv

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I think I’m reaching that point of sync with them that I just get it

It’s part of why I’m okay with sticking around because I know they want no part of it either and I get their read flip on Bork because it feels so off to me too.

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Far out man

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Ok VOTE: Muffin

-innocentvillager

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Then clown us first, like I said. We’re just going to keep going in circles.

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The bottom line is all of us are just going to keep saying “I’m okay with x person” then giving in to paranoia and it’s going to be continuing until the game ends because we’re all too antsy to draw lines in the sand

Bulge you probably do need to chime in and do things to break this cycle

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IV said it could just be scum muffin who didn’t want to drag the game out.

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Morph I think scum is muffin or Bork

That’s my bottom line. I think I could see scum muffin not wanting to drag it out until a you him bell cylo where bell is liable to vote him and you guys are a coin flip. I could also seen this be a galaxy brain call from muffin.

And I’m aware I am somehow simultaneously under and over estimating him and no I don’t understand how I’m doing it

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Hypothetically if they were to remove Bork in cylo wouldn’t that just confirm he’s town under the “can’t selftarget” premise

So we just treat him as clear and just clown whoever’s left between the two not confirmed?

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Or if they yeet one of the non confirmed then there’s a confirmed and a not confirmed and the not confirmed has to hammer him

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I think this setup was designed around the assumption that role interaction will cause a universal rolestop one night so I’m pretty sure it was expected to miss a kill

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Morph say cylo is

Me
Bell
Maid
Bork

Now, scum can yeet maid as expected in which case we proceed as planned.

Scum can yeet Bork to prevent him from confirming but therefore confirming he is town bc this role likely can’t selftsrget

Scum can yeet me or bell in which case whoever is left in the pool with maid and Bork has to hammer Bork

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Snd if it’s the one in the middle it comes down to maid which I don’t really think is ideal but it is what it is

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See muffins post. We’re on the same page.

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Did we not establish that it’s strictly better to vote for someone other than Bork until lylo? Muffin like might be town but this seems like the right move. Nothing he’s done makes me go “omg townspew”

-innocentvillager

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And I remember deadline being kind of close so let’s not no elim (I assume that’s bad with the whole removalizer thing, cuz we’ll be in 2 way with a removed player and who knows what happens there)

Low effort last ditch scum!gambit by muffin still isnt impossible

-innocentvillager

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Did we not establish that it’s strictly better to vote for someone other than Bork until lylo?

-innocentvillager

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like if this flips green we suddenly need to bet the game on two townies instead of one. If it flips red we would’ve gotten them anyway at LYLO. I don’t think anyone has explained logically why this is a good vote. Tbf I’m a bit behind but even muffin said last page it’s theoretically good to vote someone else.

-innocentvillager

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I don’t really know at this point but that’s not the point? All I know is Scum is like almost certainly in muffin morph bell remi. All I’m saying is (which I thought we established) if we go 2 townies then Remi then remi hammers we only have to bet on one person being town. Whereas if we get remi we have to bet on two people being town

-innocentvillager

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and if remi is scum we can get him anyway at xylo so it doesn’t matter, it’s a freeroll to vote someone else.

-innocentvillager

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If I’m being dumb and not caught up I apologize. I thought we discussed this and established it and I just didn’t see a reasonable argument against “get Bork at xylo because it’s a freeroll”

-innocentvillager

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I don’t know what xlem is

If that’s f3 you’re referring to, we would just vote Bork, he gets confirmed, and then he can hammer between us and bell. Sure. Is that what you mean?

-innocentvillager

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If I’m not the bet the game read I want to be nowhere near cylo

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I agree it’s pretty frustrating talking in the same circles.

We can just clown us today if we really want to?

Idk. I don’t understand why clown Bork now instead of when his role would actually be confirmed.

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I miss muffin cat

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Bulge please let us know what Insights April has

But try to keep it to like 9 theories any more than that gets excessive

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If you’re saying I’m scum slipping Im flying under the assumption he’s flipping town given your interaction with him

And again, as I’ve said, please clown me tomorrow I will even self vote for you guys I don’t want anything to do with cylo this game

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I’d wager it’s only active for the day phase given the mod message at the start of the day phase

I thought we’d covered that in thread but it might have just been in discord with IV

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April Ludgate has been temporarily removed from the game. They cannot post, vote, nor be voted today.

Emphasis on “Today”

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sorry if you’re town muffin

But I still think this was the right move

-innocentvillager

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First

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April don’t target anyone tonight just in case you aren’t blocked

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VOTE: secret tunnel

I don’t want any part of this cylo y’all have fun

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uh

yeah I’m personally ok hammering morph at some point I think pending whatever approval

seems like no compelling reason to deviate from the plan

morph probs flipping town but whatevs should be a win

-innocentvillager

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Hi friends

I will be here after work. Sorry I didn’t stop by yesterday I was refreshing the election every 10 seconds

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Yeah sorry I haven’t really slept well so I passed out

And still slept like shit but I’m here now

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I can see remi partner with that post. Like I said before the weirdest thing about interactions with the flipped scum was mirroring votes with joyed to voting joyed to going back to that mirror vote after joyed flipped red. I would expect some hesitance , ya kno?

I don’t think bell abd bear come out of the gate bussing

I don’t think you guys would be read flipping off an invalid meta tell of bear like you did

Maid is clear by night action

I’m clear by my role pm

Is kinda where I’m at but it still makes the most sense to follow muffins plan

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And I know everyone’s thinking it but I don’t get why scum didn’t concede.

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I’m going to test drive cars I should be back about mid afternoon

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hi guys

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In all honesty it sounds like everyone going into cylo is fine with me not hammering

So while not pretty, town wins regardless. But I think the best way to quash your misgivings is to focus on me (yes I know I’ve been away but car shopping is a bitch and life had been really hectic). I think IV has done a great job but he’s in over his head in such a meta heavy game that it’s hard to get a bearing.

(In all honesty I really want the accolade on my belt of winning a game through sheer obvtownity)

Idk we can talk in circles all we want but bottom line is I think it’s really likely town wins so yeah even if it’s annoying as fuck we have to play it out.

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Rem does this count as lylo for you? I forget sorry

April dying to hear from you and who you tried to neighborize I guess... if it doesn’t get blocked

-innocentvillager

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Hey Bork your links are borked

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I also want April to weigh in on things too.

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I don’t think the reflexive nature makes sense with the other claims April

Also was I right and you had access to PT over night? Just want to see if my spec was on

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Maid stopped being yeeted the day after bear died

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Bork you know damn well if I was scum killing bell is a game throw

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With borks claim that he hadn’t recanted we essentially get two clowns if he is town

So I mean, you could just have your secondary person vote Bork and be done with it

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Yes but I literally had both of you say I didn’t have to vote. I could have won off that. I play weird but not stupid

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Im vt

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Yes but I literally had both of you say I didn’t have to vote. I could have won off that. I play weird but not stupid

What in specific are you talking about here

i mean you're in the best possible position. as scum or town here, no reason to rock the boat as either alignment

What? I’m making the point that a kill like that does *exactly* that- rock a boat that doesn’t need rocking. I don’t get the point this is trying to make

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Fuck ass no When I saw bell died and you were here my goal was to make you townread me so hard you agreed to have maid vote

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I want to win a game through sheer obvtownity

That’s why I agreed to come as far as I did you know I hate cylo with a burning passion

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I’ll do it if I have to but I’d still rather not

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The fuck it is

I have zero reason to kill bell last night and zero reason to off SS N1 the fuck are you on

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Why the fuck are we on this again it took so long to get past it last time. I’m playing this game in the way I think best to give town the win. I know I’m town and you were yeetedafter there was 1 scum left so it doesn’t make sense to be you let alone you’re confirmed to be a neighborizer who acted the same night as the yeeter

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I would INSIST we kill morph n1.

Them or bulge. But morph was scumreading me until d2 (or at least not townreading me hard enough)

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Because I know I’m town and it’s a lot of pressure and I’d rather maid do it so I know town wins no matter what

But life sucks and here we are

Pedit- you remember when I said d1 April was going to come back and do this

April’s doing this

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I would 100% have hijacked that kill n1.

Also I’m the one who figured out the yeeter is alien and have been one of the central people behind the spec into it. I suppose you could argue I’m just telling you my role info but doesn’t it suit me best to keep y’all in the dark

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The alien?

It’s not but it’s the only role that fits what’s been described this game

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I literally put it together via pieces of the claims we got from maid and April. You can see it in thread where I am.

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I guess it doesn’t work in cylo situations?

I doubt a 5 shot alien makes sense lol. Unless scum got to split shots between the two roles?

Or they actually wanted April back in thread for some reason but that’s still bugging me too. I’m surprised they didn’t do anything to neutralize that hood?

I don’t even get why bell died

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April I’m saying you need to figure out who is more likely scum between me and maid and commit to a final decision on who hammers

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As long as whoever you think between me and maid is town actually IS town than we auto-win.

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I am very evidently not playing to my scum meta (and I’m aware circumventing meta is a thing) and would have been forced to die or hammer earlier had I not been lol.

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My iso from you being yeeted is basically spec on this role and discussing the plan muffin put forth to ensure a town victory

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Fucking hell April

VOTE: remi

I’m following the conftown if we lose this I’m sorry

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I’m town

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I’m sorry I made everyone play it out I was just trying to ensure town won

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I really hate cylo you guys don’t understand I always fuck it up

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Was it not survivalism

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Why didn’t you just concede

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But after bulge died you could have killed April and then it’s wifom

My understanding is whoever they targeted still got neighborized

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Idk I probably would have killed April there and anyone who claimed the hood wifom it

But idk

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But I’m saying even if neighvorizer targets scum the action still goes through right? So it’s basically wifom

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Are you saying the loud part telegraphed your actions basically?

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April General consensus was remi scum but we played it out to give town the best shot at winning

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Oh boy time to read the pts

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Bork why did you claim a role that had to be hammered at cylo

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The fuck lol

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Was I right on the role name? Is it like alien silencer?