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Post Post #4525 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:57 pm

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In post 4520, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4518, Morning Mage wrote:As an unwilling passenger in this 7 player power-bloc, I'll just throw this out there:

What if the Titus-faction is a cult?
This game doesn't have converting abilities. My allignment hasn't changed since being neighborized.
hmm... ok VOTE: Norweg

How are you so sure that group was not scum though?
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Post Post #4526 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:57 pm

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4518 is shady in a weird way

im gonna be deathtunnelling MM next after I've been more settled on bell
MM/Chemist/DDL/pete/{S_S, TGP} is my current solve
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Post Post #4527 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:00 pm

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In post 4526, shellyc wrote:4518 is shady in a weird way

im gonna be deathtunnelling MM next after I've been more settled on bell
MM/Chemist/DDL/pete/{S_S, TGP} is my current solve
I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so.

So good luck with that! :wink:
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Post Post #4528 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:00 pm

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In post 4527, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 4526, shellyc wrote:4518 is shady in a weird way

im gonna be deathtunnelling MM next after I've been more settled on bell
MM/Chemist/DDL/pete/{S_S, TGP} is my current solve
I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so.

So good luck with that! :wink:
why is mm mech conftown i did not read some of this thread
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Post Post #4529 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:01 pm

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i think for that alone, I'm more comfortable with a shelly-elim today though.
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Post Post #4530 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:02 pm

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In post 4529, Morning Mage wrote:i think for that alone, I'm more comfortable with a shelly-elim today though.
me: scumreads supposedly conftown because someone's been spamming the heck of of the thread
MM: shelly is scum

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Post Post #4531 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:09 pm

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In post 4530, shellyc wrote:
In post 4529, Morning Mage wrote:i think for that alone, I'm more comfortable with a shelly-elim today though.
me: scumreads supposedly conftown because someone's been spamming the heck of of the thread
MM: shelly is scum

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well i thought your predecessor was scum too, so it's nothing personal! :lol:
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Post Post #4532 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:10 pm

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In post 4523, Nero Cain wrote:i think Math could totally be scum and I hate you guys for arguing that Math isn't
he could be scum, but my gut says he's town. feels similar to April, and I can definitely understand the paranoia!
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Post Post #4533 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:11 pm

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BM when did you start liking the use of exclamation marks.

can you just tell me why you're conftown for once. thanks.
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Post Post #4534 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:13 pm

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In post 4528, shellyc wrote:
In post 4527, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 4526, shellyc wrote:4518 is shady in a weird way

im gonna be deathtunnelling MM next after I've been more settled on bell
MM/Chemist/DDL/pete/{S_S, TGP} is my current solve
I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so.

So good luck with that! :wink:
why is mm mech conftown i did not read some of this thread
im not sure if we'd been outted yet (so my bad if not, i got over-excited :facepalm: ) but it doesn't matter in the context of the game now. We're part of the mason group, so A50 knows we are town.
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Post Post #4535 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:15 pm

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haha i'm torn between thinking my other head is gonna rage at me for spewing, and thinking it really doesn't matter given the gamestate.
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Post Post #4536 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:16 pm

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on the plus side, last hydra standing! woop woop

(sorry Morning!)
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Post Post #4537 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:19 pm

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In post 4525, Morning Mage wrote: How are you so sure that group was not scum though?
There's a lot of genuine solving from Mastina/Nero/Titus in the hood and i would be really impressed if that was scum theatre. They are genuinely attempting to fullfill town's wincon so i trust them based on that.
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Post Post #4538 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:19 pm

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In post 4532, Morning Mage wrote:and I can definitely understand the paranoia!
for me, it's not just that math is paranoid of us but Math actively tried to argue that kings army wasn't scum and that a 3 person group was scum in a 23 player.

Also, Math isn't even trying to hunt for them.
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Post Post #4539 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:21 pm

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In post 4534, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 4528, shellyc wrote:
In post 4527, Morning Mage wrote:
In post 4526, shellyc wrote:4518 is shady in a weird way

im gonna be deathtunnelling MM next after I've been more settled on bell
MM/Chemist/DDL/pete/{S_S, TGP} is my current solve
I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so.

So good luck with that! :wink:
why is mm mech conftown i did not read some of this thread
im not sure if we'd been outted yet (so my bad if not, i got over-excited :facepalm: ) but it doesn't matter in the context of the game now. We're part of the mason group, so A50 knows we are town.
Apologies.

DS/math bumped up officially
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Post Post #4540 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:22 pm

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DDL, Chemist, Pete, S_S, TGP, Math, DS

in terms of scumminess ^
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Post Post #4541 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:22 pm

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like if Math is town it's almost comical how bad the play. While possible, I just think this bad play is scum motivated and not just bad town.
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Post Post #4542 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:23 pm

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Also, A50 hood is trustworthy too.
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Post Post #4543 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:24 pm

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i will note how bad Pete's pop in was tonight but I want to see more from him.
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Post Post #4544 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:25 pm

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In post 4542, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also, A50 hood is trustworthy too.
I am town

A50 Superbowl MM Mastina Titus Nero Norway conftown

JJH is mastina TR

rereading the DS ISO, it's eh. not scummy, but not spweing town either. because atm the pool is so small they're gonna be floating in it, but at the top.
math > DS in terms of scumminess 100000%
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Post Post #4545 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:27 pm

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In post 4417, Titus wrote:I feel like today is a blessing to helping sort MathBlade. There's going to be no 3p execution and he'll have to give reads on the pool. If he doesn't, off with his head.

I disagree with Nero on the reads. I would lynch Pere first, then jjh927 then DDL.

mastina was wrong. It happens.

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Dear Mathblade,

The six of us have been talking remotely about you and what to do about you. The general consensus is that we don't know if you're scum, but we have no problem executing you. The only exceptions are the one or two people who flat out scumread you.

That being said, as of now, you are not the main priority for an execution. We really need to hit scum today. Another lynch fueled partially by personal biases hitting town helps no one.

Therefore, we decided to write you a note to tell you what you can do to improve the general health of the game, increase your chance of survival and ultimately increase your influence in future games. This boils down to three things: limiting your post volume, listening more to others, and actually hunting army instead of just strictly opposing us.

The first two items go hand in hand. Responding to everything makes it much harder to respond to what needed to be responded to. For instance, shelly posted a content wall that completely missed her need to respond to the question about if she was visited. This means town shelly can't keep up with the developments or scum shelly needed cover to get her response together. There's no way to know if the response is scummy. Running most gambits is impossible at the rate the game goes. To that end, I suggest you limit yourself to thirty posts a real life day.

This limitation also hopefully helps you listen more. Even if you think we're a massive scum cabal, direct, spammy opposition doesn't help. It demotivates people from changing their minds on a lynch. Maybe someone stands up to mastina if we all weren't so exhausted from dealing/reading your posts repeating the same thing. Instead, documenting our allegedly evil ways in a post per day might get more interaction.

The last thing you need to do is show you're hunting army outside of us. We've tried to engage you on this. You have said you can't discuss your reads based on "reasons". This feels more spiteful than actually scummy. We're giving you a chance to prove that right and that you have reads. Titus found it icky that you defended chemist without a townread there. We look forward to actually discussing reads with you, in a less spammy manner. That hopefully will let us sort each other.

When you take the time to listen rather than talk, objectives and then alignment get revealed.

Good luck,

The group of 6

Spoiler: Response to the hood
So let me get this straight. You think when you have demonstratable proof that you’re wrong you decide

“Hey let’s not do a reset let’s antagonize the dude who tried to help fix that.”

Yesterday was weird. I admit that.

I was telling you to LIE or fix the setup yesterday if you’re townsiding.
None of the wincons have flipped likely for a reason. My hunch is scum know (blah).

April and myself were talking about high level plays. There was an entire discussion about it. We were trying to figure out a way to save your damn bacon.

I specifically said “Hey Mastina sucks at lying” (paraphrase)

I kept trying to nudge you in a way that was beneficial but still honest
Because if you’re truthtelling we are fucked. If one of the most mechanically smart players is acting like a fuckin idiot why? I was trying to communicate a way to get what you wanted to say without screwing your over. I brought up old style wincons. Go back and look at them. I am begging you.

So go back and tell me your mistake. Yes there is one. There HAS to be. All six of you go fucking find it if you have to. If you say there is no mistake then by gods, I am in a rock and a hard place. If I post a readwall I help scum. If I don’t then I have the people who clearly “know better than me” and who I doubt is townsiding with their silliness are going to tunnel me to no end.

April and I were trying to set up a cop check chain to help too with Plusjoy. Why do you think MY closest thing to a townblock is getting ripped to shreds here? I am getting left alive as fodder for the six of you to decide “Math isn’t working with you.”


If I do a readwall then I admitted whether I think you’re telling the truth about the setup. But working backwards you HAVE to be wrong about something or this game is literally going though the motions.

Therefore I cannot do a readwall unless you guys are mechanically wrong about something.

2 times four is greater than or equal to 8.

Work backwards. Not forwards.

If I do a readwall and say certain players are X we lose if everything you have said is correct.

Secondly where is the double kill?

You said you had info that made April scum.

From what this looks like the six of you decided you’re still kings and queens.

Despite the true royalty being (redacted).

Now I have been giving reads all game and will do so when I get to a thematic point.

With the information you were presented where is the second double kill?

Just fuckin great.

I have a doctor’s appointment today.

For fucks sake do something.

I could rip into you more than this for the April “conf” lynch but it’s 3 am I didn’t sleep well so this is what you get.

I don’t believe in kicking people when they’re down and I hope this didn’t reveal too much but fuck. Your play has been back AF the six of you.


Of the three posted I think DDL is the most likely scum here. Will catch up later.
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Post Post #4546 (ISO) » Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:30 pm

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In post 4545, MathBlade wrote:Your play has been back AF the six of you
naw. my play has been good. titus and mastina is debatable
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Post Post #4547 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:00 am

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In post 4546, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4545, MathBlade wrote:Your play has been back AF the six of you
naw. my play has been good. titus and mastina is debatable
Please tell Titus and Mastina to check the wiki my “King”. Tell them to search the wiki and get back to basics.

I literally do not know any other ways to communicate things. If the next post from the hood demands I do a read wall I will but by gods I will not be responsible for the consequences post game.
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Post Post #4548 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:11 am

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Oh I forgot

VOTE: Norewiegian for bp
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Post Post #4549 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:22 am

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In post 4422, Titus wrote:We neighborized NorwegianboyEE.

We're also responsible for the A50 being king today. I only mention it because our ability blocks all kills on the target and we're missing a kill.
Yes please...continue to tell scum how protectives work.
When we absolutely do not have the numbers to spare to scum double kills.

Titus you are either brain dead,scum siding, or just not planning ahead.

Wtf is going on in that hood?

I swear y’all are attempting to remove more pants unprompted because “we have 6 masons nothing can go wrong”

It doesn’t matter how many people are townfirm to you if the tanks on E, credit cards maxed, and no damn money in the bank.

Please fucking stop.
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