mystery box of silver 10. (done)

[Morning Mage]

in other news, if we dont end this day soon, our mason PT is gonna be longer than the main thread.

[Morning Mage]

Well assume the other hood is toe siding blah

i think their toes are fine

have you enjoyed being in a hood with titus and mastina?

[Morning Mage]

hmm, let me rephrase Nero...

have you been pleased to get the new recruits?

[Morning Mage]

you dont love A50 as much?

[Morning Mage]

No let's keep this in PTs for now @Math & @Everyone in a PT

i imagine this makes the game less fun for everyone not in a PT though?

[Morning Mage]

You want me to execute myself???? WHOEVER I VOTE TODAY GETS ELIMINATED.

lol dont you get a BP vote?

I can't vote. I am the ONLY PLAYER who CANNOT cast a vote on whom to BP. Everyone else using the vote tag counts towards the BP. Mine counts as a "dayvig" so to speak.

well, it's a day-elim isnt it? because then we go to night?

[Morning Mage]

if it was a dayvig we could still lunch

[Morning Mage]

It would be funny if A50 placed a vote on themselves there.

i know!

[Morning Mage]

You want me to execute myself???? WHOEVER I VOTE TODAY GETS ELIMINATED.

lol dont you get a BP vote?

I can't vote. I am the ONLY PLAYER who CANNOT cast a vote on whom to BP. Everyone else using the vote tag counts towards the BP. Mine counts as a "dayvig" so to speak.

who would you vote for if you could?

[Morning Mage]

^legit answer

[Morning Mage]

oops, wrong thread...

[Morning Mage]

in other news, if we dont end this day soon, our mason PT is gonna be longer than the main thread.

I know. Right?

haha its worse for you dude, must be like playing 3 bastard games at once!

[Morning Mage]

??????

a bp protects from a kill. taking that out of a confirmed town slot is stupid

yep thats what im saying! thank you Nero!

[Morning Mage]

i slightly misread that but still the idea of giving you a symbolic BP is insane to me

nobody is suggesting that

[Morning Mage]

who would you vote for if you could?

You.

that's not a bad shout, i might get NKed just for being a hydra with exceptional reads.

[Morning Mage]

although it's gotta be unusual for a hydra to make it so late in the game...nearly 200 pages deep!

[Morning Mage]

yo mathblade, i got a challenge for you!

out of players still alive in the game, what proportion of posts have been made by people in the council of super 7s?

[Morning Mage]

VOTE: Morning Mage

ok let's go large!

[Morning Mage]

Would be funny if my other head came back and thought I'd had a meltdown

[Morning Mage]

yo mathblade, i got a challenge for you!

out of players still alive in the game, what proportion of posts have been made by people in the council of super 7s?

If we’re talking game thread probably north of 50-75%
If we’re talking PTs too probably under 30% since you said your mason PT was large

??? why would our percentage go down, if we include extra posts only made by us?

[Morning Mage]

either im tired, or thats not good maths!

[Morning Mage]

yo mathblade, i got a challenge for you!

out of players still alive in the game, what proportion of posts have been made by people in the council of super 7s?

If we’re talking game thread probably north of 50-75%
If we’re talking PTs too probably under 30% since you said your mason PT was large

??? why would our percentage go down, if we include extra posts only made by us?

Council = Titus/Mastina/Nero yeah?
They’re the head of the 7 people?

ah no, sorry the council is everyone. so all 7.

Spoiler:

Strictly speaking, superbowl is actually in charge of the whole thing, but it's a touchy subject.

[Morning Mage]

Then my guess is north of 75-80% but without totals can’t say for certain.

there's an activity tracker thing at the bottom you can use.

[Morning Mage]

also

[Morning Mage]

Page 200!!!!

[Morning Mage]

fuck!!

[Morning Mage]

I just read the DDL ISO. Looking at the buddying from Gamma to DDL, and now the buddying back from DDL to Gamma, it's pretty gross.

I'm super happy picking that slot for a flip, even ahead of Pickaxe Pete.

Man playing with FL scum is terrible

anyhow,This is very characteristic of town gamma and I can't believe there's a wagon on that slot at the end of page 40

there's scum on that mini wagon imo

Chistoper is a blob

if gamma is scum I think he coasts at this point

any sort of effort is decent effort at this stage of the game

(for gamma emerald)

[Morning Mage]

So main thread is 65% without typos. My roommate’s cat interrupted me thrice so not sure if no typos.

You said your mason PT would be longer than the game thread soon so my estimate was pretty good?

excellent work, thanks.

technically the best move to increase that would be to flip you today, but then where would we get the stats from!?

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Though also, titus’s defense of DDL does not read like town either and i’ve Been told multiple times they’re confirmed third party and for all purposes town and I just cannot shut up about this.

My scumdar is broken.

i know, i can't believe it either!

[Morning Mage]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

its a good theory. unfortunately, everyone in our group is mod-confirmed non-scum. the other group are claiming the same is the case for them. so it has to be all or nothing i think.

[Morning Mage]

I am baffled by why DDl is getting SRed when he's being the most protown I've ever seen him be

I re-read Gamma ISO. Like a TGP flip.

Down for either one. Tgp would be good. But Gamma defending DDL like that is usually a bad look unless this is twilight. Lemme go look. If this is post twilight consider me wanting to lunch Pete.

he defended DDL throughout though. TGP he flip-flopped on. Initially defending, then distancing when it looked like his goose was cooked.

This doesn't change my position.

he didnt comment on you at all, but you made that too easy

[Morning Mage]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

its a good theory. unfortunately, everyone in our group is mod-confirmed non-scum. the other group are claiming the same is the case for them. so it has to be all or nothing i think.

Now I am going to ask this very very dumb question:

Mod confirmed not army?
Or mod confirmed not scum.

Don’t answer aloud I am just the idiot.

Just leaving this here.

mod-confirmed 3p with town win-con

[Morning Mage]

You're still town. Probably. Depressing town.

Why am I'm supposed to set the two mason groups plus norway to the side as confTown again? I think Nero, Mastina, Superbowl, A50 and Norway are all probably town, but I'm supposed to confTown Titus only because she's in this mason group even though she either refuses to read me or can't read me correctly?

y am I depressing?

I mean, it ultimately boils down to trust. There's one 5 person scum group (4 now) and we and a50's group are 2 short of that. And this was a 23 player, ofc I was spoiled but 5/18 is like a normal setup and to get 18 town the 6 3p

HAVE

to be town.

oh you don't believe me?

you think this is a 3/20 setup? if this was a 3/20 setup I'll be the first to yell @ someone to remove schadds modding privileges.

DAY 1: Gamma Emerald was a 1-shot alien from King Doris Donatello's Army.
NIGHT 1: NorwegianboyEE is not part of King Doris Donatello's Army.
NIGHT 2: at least one of DrDolittle, jjh927 and Pickaxe Pete is part of King Doris Donatello's Army.

Do those really sound like the kinda things that don't imply that the kings army isn't scum? Why hasn't the kings army faction come forward?

B/C THEY ARE FUCKING SCUM AND THEY KNOW IT.

you can ignore the absolute fuck out of Titus, Mastina, a50, MM and SB. Lord knows I am but you need to trust me.

Is there any specific reason that you don't trust me?

Now ofc if you are scum I just look silly but eh...

this is not a town-like post, and i dont understand why nero made it.

[Morning Mage]

I have some terrible set-up spec in my mind, but it gets us nowhere.

But basically it boils down to today's result being connected to yesterday's result. I think they're the same ability.

Anyways, can we please stop talking about the two 3p groups as masons? They absolutely aren't. While they may act pro-town currently, I genuinely don't think that it's something we can count on, especially since they refuse to be open about exactly how it works.

no you're wrong dude, we're just plain old masons basically, but we show up 3p/guilty to cops or something.

[Morning Mage]

I just don't understand why members of your "town" 3P are acting scummy.

fair

am I acting scummy?

yes

it's clearly someone's ability

I'm going to be the idiot here and say that it doesn't seem clear to me.

agree

[Morning Mage]

Mostly that was a comment on the names of the factions or at least added to it. ESP. In regards to flavor.

It also didn’t click with me that there were 2 extra factions with two different win conditions and that the two factions might have competing alternative win conditions where one is more achievable than the other and may result in less interest in town siding.

Is morning mage another faction? Or just Mason’s?

yes we are another faction entirely muahahahahaha

[Morning Mage]

go away BM

stop being so defensive then

[Morning Mage]

titus, myself and Mastina are a faction that have an alt wincon and we leave the game once we achieve it.

do you have to leave the game automatically?

[Morning Mage]

you think that the public cop ability is hunting a protown faction?

no, I think it's something that the scumteam is forced to do.

????

the scumteam is being forced to be cop checked?

yeah that could be right.

[Morning Mage]

both Math and S_S have been trying to argue that the third faction, king didi's army isn't scum but that's exactly why they are scum. :/

I certainly haven't been arguing that. I don't think Math has either.

if the army was 3p, they should have claimed already. safe to assume they are scum i think.

[Morning Mage]

I gave him the ability so if he hits scum it counts for us.

our wincon is concurrent with the town wincon. Town has to achieve its wincon for our wincon to be possible. Since there's no pint in holding it back, one of the things we must acomplish is to be on EVERY scum lynch.

[Morning Mage]

there is a50 and confirmed town norway saying that we are town do you not believe them? if you are town you should leave it alone and stop fishing.

man please stop this, it doesnt help

[Morning Mage]

how can you think didi's army is scum and be so curious about our wincon?

I think you’re just fanning the flames the more you bring up this topic.
This achieves nothing.

yes

S_S isn't scumhunting and focusing on mech is a good way to get townpoints

girl knows whats up

Girl knows how to suck up to Nero.

He literally said that like a page or two or something close.

Girl needs to show me original thought

sassy

[Morning Mage]

technically yes but why lie about it?

Your wincon could be any number of things. Look at MBOS 5 for the utterly ridiculous third party team it contained. I would put pretty much nothing past schadd here.

In the infinite space of wincons you could have, most of them include things that you wouldn't want town to know about-- for instance, maybe you need the game to last a certain number of days. Or you need a certain number of town-aligned players to be executed. Or you need to give out power roles and have them used in a certain way. Or you need to outlive the other third party group. Or you need to neighborize half of the living players.

I don't know. But all of these are things you would be motivated to lie about, because otherwise town would realize that you are not acting in their best interests and stop listening to you.

am i allowed to put this in our PT? haha very interesting, it does seem there is a range of possibilities here.

[Morning Mage]

Did you all realize that Nero’s faction might have a different wincon??? I don’t know I never considered this angle!! I guess we will have to run all information through SS now, since he is good at setup spec. Im glad I realized this and saved the game!!!

is this sarcastic? actually seems like a good idea. maybe neighbourise SS.

[Morning Mage]

Did you all realize that Nero’s faction might have a different wincon??? I don’t know I never considered this angle!! I guess we will have to run all information through SS now, since he is good at setup spec. Im glad I realized this and saved the game!!!

Have you been discussing what you think their wincon might be in your PT? It might be better to have that discussion in here, if it doesn't hinge on secret info.

we dont have a fking scooby!

You know, the mason faction could theoretically just have said they have no second wincon. And people might buy it, it doesn’t even appear with their flip that they have another wincon.
So are we going to be suspicious because of honesty now?

counterpoint: it's an MBOS game, which according to SS always has weird mech 3ps. so claiming a bog standard 3p, especially as the game already has one wouldn't have looked great.

[Morning Mage]

You know, the mason faction could theoretically just have said they have no second wincon. And people might buy it, it doesn’t even appear with their flip that they have another wincon.
So are we going to be suspicious because of honesty now?

Woah there Norway, I know you may THINK you know what you’re doing, but maybe we should let the people with less information than you decide? After all we CAN discuss non-secret things outside of PT now, in case you didn’t get the memo!

are you having a breakdown?

There isn’t a scum in the hoods either, Gamma seemed too unaware about which players was 3P. Meaning there likely isn’t any scum in any of the hoods. Hence why we should focus on not town players outside the hoods.

I'm fine with that, on the condition that the next time mastina says someone is confirmed scum, we ignore her.

DEAL!

Please for the love of fuck stop calling any of the 3P town or masons. They are not remotely. They’ve even admitted as much.

As soon as they greentext, they leave the game.

We cannot count on them to have our interests in mind.

please read the game dude. we are just masons.

[Morning Mage]

I choose to believe the block of town-aligned third parties have our best interests at heart because there are lots of them
There is no more that needs to be argued there

sound logic

[Morning Mage]

DS probs in the scumpool as well due to Poe + I dislike the shading and discrediting

i mean you were literally doing the same until you got called out though...

[Morning Mage]

I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

[Morning Mage]

I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum
DrDoLittle - too much buddying with Gamma-scum throughout, and within mod's scumpool.
Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.
Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).
Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.
jjh927 - this guy has been lurky as hell, so i can't really say scummy. but he was here since the start and has an award for "best replacement". lurkerscum?
MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
DiamondSentinel - blindly attacking the masons, which would be very dumb as scum, as explained above.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

[Morning Mage]

I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum
DrDoLittle - too much buddying with Gamma-scum throughout, and within mod's scumpool.
Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.
Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).
Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.
jjh927 - this guy has been lurky as hell, so i can't really say scummy. but he was here since the start and has an award for "best replacement". lurkerscum?
MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
DiamondSentinel - blindly attacking the masons, which would be very dumb as scum, as explained above.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

TS is bleeding green and idk why nobody else sees it
they're spiritually interested in solving while being town taylor who is less of a tryhard.

MM, what we have to do in that trio is outWIFOM the scum. I doubt its 1 scum 2 town if scum picked it tbh. if the one scum gets flipped, town will just ignore the others thus losing out on chainlynching

i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

[Morning Mage]

If scum picked it it’s probably all 3 scum

[Morning Mage]

I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

why is blindly shading the masons ever protown
do you think that's tstbs

i didnt say it was protown. i said i thought it made him more likely town. and i literally explained why in the post you quoted, so i dont know why you're asking me to repeat it??

[Morning Mage]

However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

No stop obvscumming

i mean, he was right though

[Morning Mage]

i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

MM i believe you're protown aligned and due to not wanting to spam the thread I'm gonna agree to disagree

i'm obviously protown aligned, but i think you're wrong and am not going to argue it further. my assumption is my assumption.

[Morning Mage]

Bell towntold btw if he’s scum he’s not helping his team so you can townblock him

what?

[Morning Mage]

However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

No stop obvscumming

i mean, he was right though

When this goes red I’ll repost this
(If it goes green you can rub it in my face too :lol:)

im not saying he's town, i'm saying he was right about voting A50 being the correct call. why is Bell town to you?

[Morning Mage]

i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

MM i believe you're protown aligned and due to not wanting to spam the thread I'm gonna agree to disagree

also where is MT can you guys sign posts

MY signs all her posts she just hasnt been here in a while

in a sense we dont need to sign, as we always agree on everything

[Morning Mage]

I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

why is blindly shading the masons ever protown
do you think that's tstbs

i didnt say it was protown. i said i thought it made him more likely town. and i literally explained why in the post you quoted, so i dont know why you're asking me to repeat it??

yeah. that actively opposing them is town because its too bold of a scum play. but I can def see DS going with that approach to farm towncred and this is like. half a poe read.

i explained above why i think that's unlikely. I'll assume DS is a good player, and that would be pisspoor play if he was scum.

[Morning Mage]

However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

No stop obvscumming

i mean, he was right though

When this goes red I’ll repost this
(If it goes green you can rub it in my face too :lol:)

im not saying he's town, i'm saying he was right about voting A50 being the correct call. why is Bell town to you?

Yes, i’m saying if he’s red and agrees with the call its a bad call

dude you know in this game sometimes scum recommend the protown approach right? it's called blending in. like nobody besides you has said it's a bad idea yet btw

[Morning Mage]

Bell towntold btw if he’s scum he’s not helping his team so you can townblock him

can you elaborate a bit further than this

assuming we're not nuking the masons I would go
DrDoLittle
Pickaxe Pete
Chemist1422
TGP
Something_Smart/DiamondSentinel
jjh927
MathBlade
Tayl0r Swift/Bell

Do you townread jjh or something??
He towntold by not even knowing there were 2 mason factions. Assuming he didn’t just pretend to not know that while actually keeping up with the game, paying that little attention to mechanical info is a towntell

let me get this right. Because Bell missed something in a 200 page game, he is town? what the hell man

[Morning Mage]

also i find it impossible to believe Bell doesnt realise there are 2 claimed mason factions at this point, so that is presumably faked/a joke.

[Morning Mage]

Alright. I have a request to slow the rate of posting so I can data dive.

@Pete, Do you prefer a DDL or jjh lynch today? Outside of the pool, who is your lynch?

It was ddl until this latest stunt by jjh. I dunno what motivates him to lie about that.

TGP probably.

I'm gone for the next 12 hours.

see TGP is a great choice. outside the three-baddy-pool, I'm going TGP or Bell now since Superbowl called the latter out for lying.

[Morning Mage]

i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

MM i believe you're protown aligned and due to not wanting to spam the thread I'm gonna agree to disagree

also where is MT can you guys sign posts

MY signs all her posts she just hasnt been here in a while

MY = Morning Yeet?

[Morning Mage]

exactly dude. that aint a town or scum tell.

[Morning Mage]

and it's probably fake anyway as you suggested

[Morning Mage]

please ISO Bell and tell me my observations in my readslist were correct.

[Morning Mage]

That’s a town tell because i dont believe scum would not be able to know about that from PT discussions. You can believe it’s lying scum but if you read his posts i think you will find that’s likely not the case

you think town not reading the actual game is significantly more likely than scum not reading the PT? bad take imo

[Morning Mage]

I don't have any reason to trust you or not to trust you other than the claims and as you point out, the numbers (where did the exact number of 5 come from though). I don't have any reason to believe that the army isn't scum either. I just don't understand why members of your "town" 3P are acting scummy.

Misread this post

how so?

[Morning Mage]

ok im now 40 pages behind and dont see myself spending all day reading those pages. can someone give me the highlights? have we caught scum yet?

Have we caught scum? Hmmm.
Let’s see... Can you vote yourself?

that wont work today though lol

[Morning Mage]

ok im now 40 pages behind and dont see myself spending all day reading those pages. can someone give me the highlights? have we caught scum yet?

just check out my readslist!

[Morning Mage]

ok im now 40 pages behind and dont see myself spending all day reading those pages. can someone give me the highlights? have we caught scum yet?

Have we caught scum? Hmmm.
Let’s see... Can you vote yourself?

that wont work today though lol

Shhh.

[Morning Mage]

I swear you three are denser than Diamond Sentinel sometimes.

Just move on please.

Fatal Shot

[Morning Mage]

ah sweet pagetop, now to catch up

[Morning Mage]

That’s a town tell because i dont believe scum would not be able to know about that from PT discussions. You can believe it’s lying scum but if you read his posts i think you will find that’s likely not the case

you think town not reading the actual game is significantly more likely than scum not reading the PT? bad take imo

...yes? Lol?? When have you played with scum that hasn’t read main OR pt vs when have you played with town who doesn’t read?

let's just say your experience differs from mine.

[Morning Mage]

also thats a crappy reason to townblock someone anyway. I need more from ya buddy

[Morning Mage]

I'm starting to see where Taylor gets there's scum in my nulls, it's just not DDL.

I feel A50 should nuke SS imo.

Why elim outside the confscum group??

because Titus wants to flip SS because SS has the highest propensity to challenge her. It's painfully obvious

[Morning Mage]

Because I feel DDL is a misexecute and if we're taking a shot, I'd rather hit scum. So Pickaxe Pete or SS.

I'd rather hit scum so let's shoot outside confscum?? If DDL is town then we have a guaranteed 1/2 scum!

Don't argue with titus dude...

I stand corrected. I think I have said my piece.

Pickaxe Chemist SS Bell.

Unless anyone has something specific to discuss with me, I am willing to wait on A50.

Let's discuss why

we both agree

Bell is scum, and should flip him/her today.

[Morning Mage]

I'm starting to see where Taylor gets there's scum in my nulls, it's just not DDL.

I feel A50 should nuke SS imo.

Why elim outside the confscum group??

because Titus wants to flip SS because SS has the highest propensity to challenge her. It's painfully obvious

That would be Math.

nah math has backed down a lot. you gonna tell A50 to do Bell?

[Morning Mage]

@SS What decision do you not understand? It looks like you’re just kissing up to Math.

@Math - Norway confirms us as not Army. A50 confirms us as not Army. What more "outside" perspective do you need to confirm us as not Army?

Our team has mod confirmed information Army has 5 members and they are the only scum. New data won't change mod confirmation. That is unless you're referring to something else.

The only town objecting are you and DS. You're buddyable and DS was buddied by scum D1. It's in the VCA too.

We can't break a rebellion that's in your DNA because you can't accept some people knowing more than you.

That’s the thing.

Unless Norway has checked you somehow (ffs don’t say this) it isn’t. Norway has confirmed that they are in your PT and heard claims from you. You’re focused on confirming goodness and using the rod of “my highway” vs being town and hoping people follow.

That is part of the problem. You “know” there were 5 army at the start of the game. You “know” your teammates are not scum. You “know” x. We hear “Claim X”.

I can literally type “hey it’s mod confirmed the masons are all town and there is one serial killer.” (This is imho false) it has no evidence/confirmation. You’re trying to fling your weight around as if you’re the greatest gift on earth instead of cooperating.

Because of that people don’t trust your claims.

I wish you were in my PT... i needed some of this sanity long ago

[Morning Mage]

like Math has this "oh I'm hardheaded, none of this scummy just me being hardheaded"

scum HAVE to break the hood up. They know they can't hunt outside of the hood b/c any lynches outside of the hood just result in them being POEd.

i disagree. it makes little sense for them to try (and that's evidenced by the fact like 2 people are actually doing it, which wouldnt be enough for your 4 person team). and mathematically, it doesn't stack up either.

[Morning Mage]

I'm starting to see where Taylor gets there's scum in my nulls, it's just not DDL.

I feel A50 should nuke SS imo.

Why elim outside the confscum group??

because Titus wants to flip SS because SS has the highest propensity to challenge her. It's painfully obvious

That would be Math.

nah math has backed down a lot. you gonna tell A50 to do Bell?

No. I don't feel as confident on Bell but I got shown the error of lynching outside the three anyway.

Math has also backed down because I reached out to him.

that's nice.

[Morning Mage]

Battle Mage, can we not do this thing where you oppose everything because it comes out of my mouth? It gets old. Can we rationally discuss reads?

i literally just agreed with your read on Bell, to try and get some consensus from you, and you immediately shot it down.

[Morning Mage]

but you're right it's boring as fuck. i'd rather be destined-for-failure-scum than an impotent conftown who can't do anything.

[Morning Mage]

like Math has this "oh I'm hardheaded, none of this scummy just me being hardheaded"

scum HAVE to break the hood up. They know they can't hunt outside of the hood b/c any lynches outside of the hood just result in them being POEd.

i disagree. it makes little sense for them to try (and that's evidenced by the fact like 2 people are actually doing it, which wouldnt be enough for your 4 person team). and mathematically, it doesn't stack up either.

Pickaxe Pete and Chemist are lurkers. They can't try to do anything.

Pete has been here enough to dissent if he wanted to. you could engage with my readslist if you like

[Morning Mage]

scum HAVE to break the hood up. They know they can't hunt outside of the hood b/c any lynches outside of the hood just result in them being POEd.

how can this be true? wouldn't the game be absurdly townsided if this were the case?

when I asked you who were scum and you told me that it was the kings army did you believe that kings army was

INSIDE

our hood?

not this again!!??

[Morning Mage]

Battle Mage, can we not do this thing where you oppose everything because it comes out of my mouth? It gets old. Can we rationally discuss reads?

i literally just agreed with your read on Bell, to try and get some consensus from you, and you immediately shot it down.

I got shot down, and rightfully so on the lynch outside the three pairing today. Glad we agree on Bell scum though. If my hood doesn't agree on SS after we find scum in the three, we can go for Bell.

or TGP my topscumread

[Morning Mage]

I am pissed at the council’s play too

Why? Or rather what exactly would have me do differently?

who you flippin dudio?

[Morning Mage]

also Titus, if you are town, I'm gonna be disappointed you were a jerk to me early in this game i guess if you're scum, i'll let it slide

[Morning Mage]

nothing wrong with scumreading, but constantly saying im a shit player is uncool

[Morning Mage]

and you didnt even know i was a mason....

[Morning Mage]

ok hi what's going on

i'm pretty much lurking out this day phase until i get a handle on what's going on because A Lot has been happening

Vote Norway using vote tags for BP
A 50 decides the execution.

Scum must be in DDL Pickaxe and jjh. So give reads there.

i saw the mech stuff

is there any other discussion going on that i should weigh in on?

you can tell me why you think TGP is almost certainly scum based on the interaction between him and Gamma?

[Morning Mage]

nothing wrong with scumreading, but constantly saying im a shit player is uncool

Sorry you took what I said that way. You, Math and DS all have a history of early tunnels that tend to be wrong. Most early tunnels are. That leaves you prone to scum buddying. That doesn't mean you suck as a player. It's a weakness to overcome.

Titus, come on. You ragged on me for tunnelling town, when you were doing the exact same thing. A bit of self-awareness and humility wouldn't go amiss...

[Morning Mage]

ok hi what's going on

i'm pretty much lurking out this day phase until i get a handle on what's going on because A Lot has been happening

Vote Norway using vote tags for BP
A 50 decides the execution.

Scum must be in DDL Pickaxe and jjh. So give reads there.

i saw the mech stuff

is there any other discussion going on that i should weigh in on?

you can tell me why you think TGP is almost certainly scum based on the interaction between him and Gamma?

or you could tell me why you very clearly think that

you'll have to read the game for that. i'm trying to help you though.

[Morning Mage]

ok hi what's going on

i'm pretty much lurking out this day phase until i get a handle on what's going on because A Lot has been happening

Vote Norway using vote tags for BP
A 50 decides the execution.

Scum must be in DDL Pickaxe and jjh. So give reads there.

i saw the mech stuff

is there any other discussion going on that i should weigh in on?

Start with the group of three. Then come back.

Pedit: Well I didn't scumread you once I knew you were a mason.

Masons usually end up in my scumreads prereveal

.

it's funny you say that...

[Morning Mage]

@Norwee: Can you at least vote yourself for the BP?? Thanks in advance

VOTE: norweg

[Morning Mage]

i dont think day ends with a majority

[Morning Mage]

I am now hard skimming because it's the same set of players who are arguing between them. LET THE LURKERS BE EXPOSED. Direct questions at the low posters and pressure them to talk more.

what do you think of the interaction between TGP and Gamma?

What do you think of my assessment of Bell as being an informed minority?

[Morning Mage]

nothing wrong with scumreading, but constantly saying im a shit player is uncool

Sorry you took what I said that way. You, Math and DS all have a history of early tunnels that tend to be wrong. Most early tunnels are. That leaves you prone to scum buddying. That doesn't mean you suck as a player. It's a weakness to overcome.

Titus, come on. You ragged on me for tunnelling town, when you were doing the exact same thing. A bit of self-awareness and humility wouldn't go amiss...

It's not true this game.

unbelievable

[Morning Mage]

i'm halfway there at least....

[Morning Mage]

big daddy pagetop

[Morning Mage]

nothing wrong with scumreading, but constantly saying im a shit player is uncool

Sorry you took what I said that way. You, Math and DS all have a history of early tunnels that tend to be wrong. Most early tunnels are. That leaves you prone to scum buddying. That doesn't mean you suck as a player. It's a weakness to overcome.

Titus, come on. You ragged on me for tunnelling town, when you were doing the exact same thing. A bit of self-awareness and humility wouldn't go amiss...

It's not true this game.

unbelievable

So Gamma was town?

Titus quit trolling me. you know you tunnelled me hard for no reason, and i am town. exactly the same as you accused me of with you. So we are the same, and you pretending you are better than me on that front is just dumb.

[Morning Mage]

i honestly dont care about this discussion - it's beyond obvious you're wrong, and the fact you don't see it is laughable. as i say, a bit of self-awareness was all you needed.

[Morning Mage]

also thats a crappy reason to townblock someone anyway. I need more from ya buddy

I’ve been giving you plenty, you just don’t like what you’re getting

yeah would be nice if you backed me up a bit more...

[Morning Mage]

A50 can you shoot one of the louder scummy players. There's so much crazy arguing here i can't even think.

unfortunately all the loud players are either conftown or A50 won't shoot em haha

[Morning Mage]

DDL at least is quiet lurky scum. He's got that going for him.

he's maybe the loudest of the 3 on the chopping block today ironically

[Morning Mage]

...im not THAT invested in a DDL flip, Titus

[Morning Mage]

A50, please respond to my questions! gdi

[Morning Mage]

also where is my other head? it's lonely in here...

[Morning Mage]

VOTE: Norwee

Done

i think the only way to top your accidental "dense as Diamond" putdown, is to accuse someone of "having an IQ of Almost 50"

[Morning Mage]

VOTE: Norwee

Done

i think the only way to top your accidental "dense as Diamond" putdown, is to accuse someone of "having an IQ of Almost 50"

I swear it was an accident sorry.

I have no intention of putting Diamond down and I hope he understands that

it's just jokes bud, it's obvious you didn't mean harm!

[Morning Mage]

ah A50, you little legend

[Morning Mage]

i dont think day ends with a majority

No, it doesn't. But it does end when I decide to execute someone (between Taylor & Chemist.. maybe shelly too), so I would like to ensure the BP is assigned before I do.

Now. here's a request:

@Tayl0r Swift
@Chemist
@shelly

You should all claim in your next post. It'd be better if you also provided a read list and any other final thoughts. Treat this as your final post of the game. Thank you.

[Morning Mage]

he's gone mad with power, i love it

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also thats a crappy reason to townblock someone anyway. I need more from ya buddy

I’ve been giving you plenty, you just don’t like what you’re getting

yeah would be nice if you backed me up a bit more...

I’m not arguing with you just to argue, I am quite open to crazy plays, non-conventional stuff, etc. But if what you’re proposing doesn’t benefit town i’m not gonna agree for the sake of agreeing. I feel as if you have been the one more unwilling to consider the other side than me here

nah u wrong brother

[Morning Mage]

I am now hard skimming because it's the same set of players who are arguing between them. LET THE LURKERS BE EXPOSED. Direct questions at the low posters and pressure them to talk more.

what do you think of the interaction between TGP and Gamma?

What do you think of my assessment of Bell as being an informed minority?

The interaction between TGP & Gamma was interesting.

Your assessment of Bell as being an informed minority is intriguing.

I hope that answers both of your questions.

well from your list of 3 it's fairly obvious you didn't really engage with this, but what the heck...

[Morning Mage]

A50 can you shoot one of the louder scummy players. There's so much crazy arguing here i can't even think.

thought about it, but decided to go for the QUIET ones. Scum are likely to hide in such a loud environment and let the town implode.

or more likely they cant help but hide, as townies like superbowl spam the thread

[Morning Mage]

If it flips town u suck tho.
No pressure.

he flipped april-town yesterday. i can confirm he was unphased.

[Morning Mage]

A50 can you shoot one of the louder scummy players. There's so much crazy arguing here i can't even think.

thought about it, but decided to go for the QUIET ones. Scum are likely to hide in such a loud environment and let the town implode.

or more likely they cant help but hide, as townies like superbowl spam the thread

You’ve got more posts than me mate!

wow, looks like you need to wake up then! achieve your wincon!

[Morning Mage]

also V/LA for 3 days from tomorrow

[Morning Mage]

i admire your ambition

[Morning Mage]

the correct play is for the day to go on and we keep talking and hunting

There comes a point where the day just ends organically and more talking hurts town. So we should keep our talks to a minimum (which is why I didn't discuss my Chemist claim thoughts in public).

Uhoh I agree with the Titus hood.

Quick someone scumread me please? *puppy dog eyes*

Nero is in the Titus hood remember - when they don't agree, you can only pick one

[Morning Mage]

If I have a vote this day I would vote mastina

I frankly don't think donatellos army is as big of a threat as the "conf town 3p crew"

nice work claiming scum dude

[Morning Mage]

I frankly don't think donatellos army is as big of a threat as the "conf town 3p crew"

Look we already know ur sxum, can u go back to lurking ok?

What do you make of shelly not claiming?

she refused to claim??

[Morning Mage]

Lurker is pretty much autoscum for me. Especially with how many 3Ps exist

haven't we established as a site that activity level is a horrible way to judge alignment?

Not really imo. It can be quite evident when someone is actively avoiding an thread.

testify

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I frankly don't think donatellos army is as big of a threat as the "conf town 3p crew"

Look we already know ur sxum, can u go back to lurking ok?

What do you make of shelly not claiming?

she refused to claim??

No outright refusal but she didn’t do it after being brought up a few times.

ah that's even worse, off with her head

[Morning Mage]

what did the others claim?

[Morning Mage]

what does the chemist gossipee thing mean sorry?

[Morning Mage]

and thanks math, very helpful

[Morning Mage]

No, I mean you cut me out entirely from a list by MM. Where he said he suspected me for pretty vanilla reasons. While responding to the rest.

You weren't the only one cut from the list; I cut only the names I didn't feel like contesting on and while I feel that you're probably more likely town, due to not being able to pin you down better, I didn't really feel so strongly about your townness as to

contest MM on fingering you

.

eh, now that's a lewd accusation

[Morning Mage]

If I have a vote this day I would vote mastina

I frankly don't think donatellos army is as big of a threat as the "conf town 3p crew"

nice work claiming scum dude

Honestly, all i could read from his posts there was: "Hi guys, just popping back in to remind you all that i’m mafia"

[Morning Mage]

some kudos to DS - he didn't hit scum, but he did targets who would've been distracting during the day, good vigging I think.

[Morning Mage]

it feels like we're close to POE territory, assuming masons are good. *shrug* too easy?

[Morning Mage]

The second vig

The what now?

I'm inferring we have an even night vig.

why?

[Morning Mage]

some kudos to DS - he didn't hit scum, but he did targets who would've been distracting during the day, good vigging I think.

Yes. DS may have not had the best reads, but his shots were still useful, which is why scum likely killed him.

i guess, although why didnt scum shoot in the mason-pool?

[Morning Mage]

SuperBowl is now also linked to the hood PT btw.

ah that's a relief!

btw if this does turn out to be some cult shit, after the Mod specifically said that wasn't possible, I'm not counting this game on my record

[Morning Mage]

some kudos to DS - he didn't hit scum, but he did targets who would've been distracting during the day, good vigging I think.

Yes. DS may have not had the best reads, but his shots were still useful, which is why scum likely killed him.

i guess, although why didnt scum shoot in the mason-pool?

My guess is wifom or they wanted to get rid of the vigilante.
Anyway we're doing PP today so we'll see where they'll shoot tommorow.

had DS claimed sorry? i skipped the last part of yesterday...

[Morning Mage]

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

[Morning Mage]

some kudos to DS - he didn't hit scum, but he did targets who would've been distracting during the day, good vigging I think.

Yes. DS may have not had the best reads, but his shots were still useful, which is why scum likely killed him.

i guess, although why didnt scum shoot in the mason-pool?

Because of questions like this.
Posts like Maths "pretend".
Paranoia from DS.
The masons disagree on who scum is now.
Shooting the vigilante.

Hey if scum don’t shoot in confTown that’s a win for us right? More conf townies?

yeah exactly math. I know what you're saying Titus, but my point is that, if scum are really taking that line, it's really stupid. Even yesterday, at most it was only me and Math really pushing the questions, and I'm within the 7! As I say, *shrug*, we're going with it, as that's the consensus.

[Morning Mage]

Why does DS's flip imply an even-night vig

Town needs more killing roles in a large.

in a game with 7 conftown by day 2?

[Morning Mage]

I mean you went from "these 3p masons will be the death of our society, we are all doomed" to: "Hey, these masons are pretty alright."

I actually switched yesterday if you take a look.

They weren’t being tyrants so I just figured Titus and Mastina were overeager.

mastina hasn't been particularly scummy in this game - she's been exactly like her town-self, aside from being a lot less active.

[Morning Mage]

some kudos to DS - he didn't hit scum, but he did targets who would've been distracting during the day, good vigging I think.

Yes. DS may have not had the best reads, but his shots were still useful, which is why scum likely killed him.

i guess, although why didnt scum shoot in the mason-pool?

My guess is wifom or they wanted to get rid of the vigilante.
Anyway we're doing PP today so we'll see where they'll shoot tommorow.

had DS claimed sorry? i skipped the last part of yesterday...

He might not have had to. Scum have roles too.

why you being so coy? he either did or he didn't lol. and how do you know what roles scum have?

[Morning Mage]

had DS claimed sorry? i skipped the last part of yesterday...

I don't think so. But scum could have rolecop.

erm, yeah i guess...

[Morning Mage]

i mean masons will have a majority tomorrow, so it might already be too late.

[Morning Mage]

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

I'm in favor of Tayl0r but I could just be jilted from last game. I need to run the data.

hey come on, TGP was my top pick yesterday, Let me have a go!!

[Morning Mage]

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

Now that we know there was 1/3 in the last batch, i think it’s likely that A50’s theory about scum choosing these cop pools is correct. Based on that we may not even want to shoot within the 3, since our poe has been narrowed outside it. Ofc we could be getting wifomed

erm, i think you'll find that was MY theory

[Morning Mage]

i mean masons will have a majority tomorrow, so it might already be too late.

That’s why I am worried.

Something has to be off mathematically.

Maybe scum shot DS because he was still pushing the mason claim?

unlikely, they'd have shot Something Smart in that case.

[Morning Mage]

you might be right but for the wrong reason lol

[Morning Mage]

anyway im gonna try and read Pete's ISO before we go to night if time permits

[Morning Mage]

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

Now that we know there was 1/3 in the last batch, i think it’s likely that A50’s theory about scum choosing these cop pools is correct. Based on that we may not even want to shoot within the 3, since our poe has been narrowed outside it. Ofc we could be getting wifomed

erm, i think you'll find that was MY theory

Don’t worry I tend to like yalls theories better than the Titus’s hoods.

Y’all s makes sense.

and also i forgot to say Superbowl, I don't think we should shoot outside the pool on the basis that we are confident scum would do the same trick again of only 1 in.

[Morning Mage]

you might be right but for the wrong reason lol

Elaborate?

i dont think the DiamondSentinel kill is indicative of a corrupt hood. but that doesnt mean a hood couldnt be corrupt.

[Morning Mage]

also if scum has any compassion theyll kill me tonight before i get recruited to the other hood

[Morning Mage]

erm, i think you'll find that was MY theory

Wasn't it originally MY theory?

At the very least, I developed it independently from you.

maybe, ive already given you loads of credit dude

[Morning Mage]

also if scum has any compassion theyll kill me tonight before i get recruited to the other hood

Scum by definition are compassion less and pretty sure they don’t take orders from confTown. That’s be crazy. Lol

nah scum can be compassionate, and it wasn't an order, it was a humble request!

[Morning Mage]

I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum

Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.

Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).

Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.

MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

which leaves 4 players outside the pool, assuming masons are town. meaning 2 scum in: Bell, Mathblade, Chemist and Something Smart. Bell + 1.

[Morning Mage]

also if scum has any compassion theyll kill me tonight before i get recruited to the other hood

Scum by definition are compassion less and pretty sure they don’t take orders from confTown. That’s be crazy. Lol

nah scum can be compassionate, and it wasn't an order, it was a humble request!

Seems odd you want to die?

*puzzled*

Hey even night vig theres a player who wants to die if you exist?

are you really asking a town vig to shoot me, rather than within the potential scumpool?

[Morning Mage]

also if scum has any compassion theyll kill me tonight before i get recruited to the other hood

Scum by definition are compassion less and pretty sure they don’t take orders from confTown. That’s be crazy. Lol

nah scum can be compassionate, and it wasn't an order, it was a humble request!

Seems odd you want to die?

*puzzled*

Hey even night vig theres a player who wants to die if you exist?

are you really asking a town vig to shoot me, rather than within the potential scumpool?

I am confused I thought you were claiming you needed to die?

If not then the Vig needs to shoot in the scum pool.

erm, i was more volunteering myself to eat the scum NK, as opposed to actively playing against my wincon.

[Morning Mage]

before we go to night we should get Norweg reads and get some words from Pete.

[Morning Mage]

i feel like the potential benefit from a mastina scumflip today is massively outweighed by the drawbacks of flipping town!mastina, and in any case she seems to be making a concentrated effort to gamesolve, but i'm not sure if that's nai for her. VOTE: plusjoyed their entire push on mastina feels manufactured and 575 and 674 ping me as calling out something for which there is no reason to call out.

Town!mastina will be dead by day 3 or day 4. You should know that. No reason to wagon her. Bad post.

This kinda feels like it might be bussing.

must be given they are both scum!

[Morning Mage]

I can't argue with pickaxepete town atm.
Because why would I.
I'm town.

If you could not embarrass me by being actually scum Pete I would appreciate it.

These two posts don't track.

Prepare to be embarrassed because I'm town. Why do you want me to be scum?

Bell probably town based on this.

really?? i drew the opposite conclusion when I ISO'd Bell...

[Morning Mage]

erm, i was more volunteering myself to eat the scum NK, as opposed to actively playing against my wincon.

Yeah good job, now scum will never shoot you. Ever.

Pretty much this yeah

excellent...

[Morning Mage]

ok hero solve time:

Bell - TGP - Pickaxe Pete - Mathblade

[Morning Mage]

I can't argue with pickaxepete town atm.
Because why would I.
I'm town.

If you could not embarrass me by being actually scum Pete I would appreciate it.

These two posts don't track.

Prepare to be embarrassed because I'm town. Why do you want me to be scum?

Bell probably town based on this.

really?? i drew the opposite conclusion when I ISO'd Bell...

Yeah but you also think someone saying "honestly" is a scum tell.

[Morning Mage]

ok hero solve time:

Bell - TGP - Pickaxe Pete - Mathblade

Clearly such a hero solve.

was i right??

[Morning Mage]

ah well, if Norweg is just gonna be a jerk, who cares about his opinion!

VOTE: pickaxe pete

[Morning Mage]

ah well, if Norweg is just gonna be a jerk, who cares about his opinion!

VOTE: pickaxe pete

This guy cares about conf not Army’s opinion.

nah he's not being serious

[Morning Mage]

also, even if he was being serious, them some bad reads lol

impressive to get it that wrong in a setup where we know most people's deal

[Morning Mage]

Okay in seriousness pretty sure we need to try to salvage what we can today.

salvage? aint it a good day? confscum on a plate

[Morning Mage]

oh i cracked it. Norweg's trying to get his reads wrong on purpose to avoid getting NKed?

[Morning Mage]

also, even if he was being serious, them some bad reads lol

impressive to get it that wrong in a setup where we know most people's deal

Why are you so cocky when there haven't been flips yet?

clearly i have more info about the setup than you do

[Morning Mage]

Scum, please kill Battle Mage.

lol i guarantee whether those were legit reads or not, you'll have a different story in the post-game depending on how it lands. If you're right about any, you'll say you were being real. If you're wrong, you'll say you were trying to trick scum into thinking you had terrible reads.

I'll happily eat the NK though, even to save your bad-attitude ass. conftown is conftown.

[Morning Mage]

Okay in seriousness pretty sure we need to try to salvage what we can today.

salvage? aint it a good day? confscum on a plate

We haven’t had a good day of town lead hunting all game.

Pedit I mean town town before Titus throws her complaint “But I’m town”

it doesnt feel like it was ever going to be that sort of game dude!

[Morning Mage]

Since BM clearly SOLVED the game it's in scums interest to kill him. Those excellent reads are too dangerous he can't be allowed to live.

excellent, you finally figured it out!

[Morning Mage]

If you're right about any, you'll say you were being real. If you're wrong, you'll say you were trying to trick scum into thinking you had terrible reads.

Um no. I'm actually an quite honest person, and if my reads are bad i will admit they are bad. But as of right now we're still playing the game and nothing is for sure so unless you explain why you are correct and i'm wrong it's not going to make me budge.

last time i tried to tell you something, you just made some shitty quip. sorry dude, that's your lot for this game!

[Morning Mage]

I swear to god Battle Mage, you have some kind of innate ability to make me real annoyed.

*shrug* like i said dude, don't be a jerk to me and then expect me to spend my time and energy helping you figure stuff out. i'm not trying to annoy you, i'm just telling you how it is.

[Morning Mage]

lots of sweet distancing between Bell and Pete here - a big day for scum this!

[Morning Mage]

Mail-in ballots. Did you get yours?

I sent mine in ages ago. I was real worried Biden would lose in California so I had to vote.

Cmon voting serial killer (third party is all the rage).

<--- voted for Biden

don't most people in America claim to vote Democrat and actually vote Republican though?

[Morning Mage]

Lies.VOTE: Bell

See?
Town totally self vote.

But what if u are scum.

wut if.

@Morningmage: no. Republicans haven't won the popular vote in quite awhile. There are more people that claim to vote D than there actually are or at least, people will lie because they don't want people to get on their case (like I would) if they're honest.

i dont know what you mean, I don't really follow US politics. The story over here is that the republicans are claiming that the democrats started the coronavirus as a plot to oust Trump. which would be slightly counter-intuitive in some respects, as i'd have thought coronavirus would probably end up being a boost for Trump's chances.

[Morning Mage]

Ok this is starting to turn into another rant of my dislike of BM's playstyle, so i'll stop before the mood get's sour.

...dude i had stopped responding to you several posts ago. to be clear, i'm completely 100% not interested in your opinion of me, or anything else right now unless you calm down. if you must keep ranting and arguing with yourself, that's all on you!

[Morning Mage]

i feel like i say this too often, but the bottom line is - this is just a game, and if you're getting very angry and emotional about somebody else's reads, that's not good for your mental health.

[Morning Mage]

If PP is scum then that spews Bell and Mathblade as more likely town for reasons i won't divulge yet.

I think PP being scum increases the likelihood of Bell-scum. Mathblade is a borderline case.

[Morning Mage]

i feel like i say this too often, but the bottom line is - this is just a game, and if you're getting very angry and emotional about somebody else's reads, that's not good for your mental health.

Not your reads, you.

lol dude, please don't get emotional about me. I'm just words on a screen. <3

[Morning Mage]

I can't argue with pickaxepete town atm.
Because why would I.
I'm town.

If you could not embarrass me by being actually scum Pete I would appreciate it.

These two posts don't track.

Prepare to be embarrassed because I'm town. Why do you want me to be scum?

Bell probably town based on this.

really?? i drew the opposite conclusion when I ISO'd Bell...

Yeah but you also think someone saying "honestly" is a scum tell.

honestly...

Taylor is scum!

Spoiler:

again!

[Morning Mage]

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

I'm in favor of Tayl0r but I could just be jilted from last game. I need to run the data.

Oh, no. You beat me to that too. So, what should I do now

to keep the hoods sporadic

?

Oh, YES! FoS someone OUTSIDE those 3. Chemist is Scum. GOOD IDEA me.

what's your take on Norweg's read of you and Superbowl being more scummy than Titus and co?

[Morning Mage]

If PP is scum then that spews Bell and Mathblade as more likely town for reasons i won't divulge yet.

I think PP being scum increases the likelihood of Bell-scum. Mathblade is a borderline case.

How so, better fuck? Does Morning agree with you?

eh...

Morning and I always agree on everything

[Morning Mage]

what's your take on Norweg's read of you and Superbowl being more scummy than Titus and co?

I never said that. I coloured them slighly more blue-ish to show they are from a different group, but not scum.

i interpretted your readslist as being ordered from most town to most scum. perhaps it wasn't set out as clearly as intended.

[Morning Mage]

Woah, I thought I wrote buttercup.
I apologize.

apology accepted...

Spoiler:

ya weirdo

[Morning Mage]

i feel like i say this too often, but the bottom line is - this is just a game, and if you're getting very angry and emotional about somebody else's reads, that's not good for your mental health.

Not your reads, you.

lol dude, please don't get emotional about me. I'm just words on a screen. <3

Words on a screen can be more meaningful than you realize.

i dont know what you want me to suggest dude, i feel like i'm being very gentle with you. if you are really getting emotional about me declining to get into an argument with you about my reads, it might be worth taking a break for a few hours.

[Morning Mage]

Is it bad I can’t tell the MM heads apart and just think of them as one person?

I'm taking that as a big compliment!

[Morning Mage]

i mean masons will have a majority tomorrow, so it might already be too late.

wait youre saying we should kill in the masons? arent you a mason?

Are you outright claiming Scum?

she might just be trolling lol

[Morning Mage]

Thinking at least Shelly is likely scum.

I mean of those 3, it's clearly TGP first.

OK, so I guess I'm left with Taylor to FoS. (At least I'll be listening to

good

music. See that Nero??)

im excited for this A50. hit me with your best shot

you might regret that. he's a real tough cookie, with a long history...

[Morning Mage]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

This explains why scum don't shoot in mason groups. They really wanna sell us on this: "one scum in each of the groups" narrative.

if true, that suggests scum collectively are really not paying attention to the claims.

[Morning Mage]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

This explains why scum don't shoot in mason groups. They really wanna sell us on this: "one scum in each of the groups" narrative.

To my knowledge,
A50, SB, and MM are confirmed town to one another.
While nerocain, Titus, and Mastina are not.

I believe Nero, Titus and Mastina subsequently claimed they are confirmed to each other.

[Morning Mage]

This slipped right by me. I'm not necessarily town reading MM either but for the mason group.

Actually, one in each group makes sense.

This explains why scum don't shoot in mason groups. They really wanna sell us on this: "one scum in each of the groups" narrative.

if true, that suggests scum collectively are really not paying attention to the claims.

Would match the inactive/ineffective scum d1 theory I had.

Maybe we’re just assuming scum are good? When we shouldn’t be?

it doesnt necessarily mean they are no good, just they arent actively following everything that is said. which doesnt shock me - outside yourself and the masons, how many players are actually keeping up with the game? even I struggle and I'm one of the most active ones.

[Morning Mage]

You can kind of tell that the interns are more aligned with the town than the other group too just from the lack of distance they have to the other town in the game in regards to their communication.

@MM Where?

there is no way you're actually expecting me to go and find it?

[Morning Mage]

Taylor is always scum even when she isn't.

Every post looks like sarcasm, irony or like there's some insular or self-aware joke involved. Even her questions read like this to me.

Also, no, not really I think it's extremely weird that scum aren;t killing in the society.
I mean A50 NK wifom given his statements I can buy and maybe they investigated diamond. But I don't know how the scum team expects to survive when the elimination pool is this narrow.

well this post proves that you get me, but it doesnt prove anything about your ability to sort me.

bell can't read you, she wish she knew what's going through your mind...

[Morning Mage]

Mechanically, the Masons (Myself, sb & MM) should now be confirmed to EVERYONE.

To the other hood, we've had a scum flip, we have one outed scum, and we have a pool of three than contains at least one scum, which leaves only 3 scum at max to be found according to their mod-provided info.

To everyone else, they either believe the Society (and their mod-provided info) = same as above, or they still doubt them, and if they assume they're still lying then we can't be scum either because that would be too many scums in the game.

I know I could've phrased it a hell lot better, but I'm out of focus right now, so that's all you'll get from me at this time.

that's actually helpful - i guess we are proper mech conftown now thanks to the other hood.

[Morning Mage]

Taylor is always scum even when she isn't.

Every post looks like sarcasm, irony or like there's some insular or self-aware joke involved. Even her questions read like this to me.

Also, no, not really I think it's extremely weird that scum aren;t killing in the society.
I mean A50 NK wifom given his statements I can buy and maybe they investigated diamond. But I don't know how the scum team expects to survive when the elimination pool is this narrow.

well this post proves that you get me, but it doesnt prove anything about your ability to sort me.

bell can't read you, she wish she knew what's going through your mind...

I do too.

I keep thinking she scum claims when I read her posts.

Then I have to remember she’s sarcastic.

I know Taylor does literally claim scum and openly play towards scum wincon as both scum and town, so it's not easy to tell.

[Morning Mage]

Mechanically, the Masons (Myself, sb & MM) should now be confirmed to EVERYONE.

To the other hood, we've had a scum flip, we have one outed scum, and we have a pool of three than contains at least one scum, which leaves only 3 scum at max to be found according to their mod-provided info.

To everyone else, they either believe the Society (and their mod-provided info) = same as above, or they still doubt them, and if they assume they're still lying then we can't be scum either because that would be too many scums in the game.

I know I could've phrased it a hell lot better, but I'm out of focus right now, so that's all you'll get from me at this time.

i believe you, but why are you mechanically confirmed?

he literally said it in the post above