Micro 971 Matrix Decipher Game OVer

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Why is everyone double or triple posting? Is this a new trend that I'm late on?

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Alright, massclaim bad idea if what Infinity is saying about 2 masons + doc still being scumsided.

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(is true)

Site may be fine for me, but my brain isn't.

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Ja, I'm surprised at the masons too. Doc was referring to hypothetically mass claiming to confirm masons/out scum, and deny scum from framing them later.

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1294

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You've townlocked Isis/Flopz/Pooky?

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Why do you townread Isis?

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I don't think Bell/Lend would fake-claim masons on D1 as scum even independent of MC tho so it makes sense to me as a claim.

we r pretty lucky that the mason slots fell on the LHF :3

Wow, rude.

You gonna take that, lend?

[Hectic]

The early (post RVS but relatively early) posting she had in the memey stage of the game read genuine in a good way. I liked her interactions for Pookie after that. I could look for specifics, but I don't remember which posts I specifically liked, so I'd be looking kind of retrospectively.

How do you feel on Taylor/Infinity atm? I feel like you have solid scum equity with either of them.

I've been looking through your ISO, and you've been proactive with voicing reads and blocs, but you're actually scarce on reasoning for reads, as in specifics that go deeper. Little paranoid lul, would love more reasoning overall on all your reads.

Tayl0r and Infinity are both on the same tier as you. You'll have to wait if you want me to go deeper, am on mobile.

Actually, if I'm being honest, I find Isis townier than Tayl0r or you, I'm probably being a little unfair and BoPing her somewhat.

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Oh yeah, newbie setups dictate that 2 masons - 5 VT - 2 goons would be balanced. We should massclaim.

I'm okay with popcorning.

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Sounds good wrt massclaim

Why'd you change your mind?

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Mmm

Not sure when happy!Isis will be back.

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HmmmMMM

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Classic Pooky claim tbh

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*role

I 100% buy it

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Alright, guess it's my turn to claim.

I am a

Town Hungry Neighbour

. I'm in a neighbourhood but am alone. Also, I've started to run out of food.

If you visit me in the night in any way, you will enter my neighbourhood, and I will be saved from starvation.

If no one visits me by the end of night 3, I will die from starvation.

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Am I your biggest scumread, Pooky?

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I want to popcorn you or Hop but I'm not sure.

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Am I your biggest scumread, Pooky?

ofc not why would you say that?

You popcorned me

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I assume they would've brought enough food to last me for the rest of the game, so I reckon I'll be okay.

Pedit: woah woah, just because Flopz does that every time we play d&d doesn't mean I'm gonna take after him

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He's a very harsh DM. He once made us play a format where if you lost a limb in the game, you'd have to replicate it in real life for immersion. Hopkirk insists he never needed his left leg anyway, but I can tell it's changed him...

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Because Hopkirk is stuck inside it, ask him.

Also, VOTE: Hopkirk

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I'm VT btw

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I'm still reeling in shock

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Isis, why do the mason claims make me more likely to be scum?

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Isissssssssssss, why do you scumread me all the time nowadays

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Hope this new avatar helps

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I really don't want to launch either Pooky or Flopz today.

Hang on, checking something.

Pedit: huh

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I like that a lot actually lol

Would compromise here: VOTE: Infinity

I think everyone claimed VT? Or are we still waiting on Tayl0r?

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I recommend dropping the full stops, Hopkirk. It's the easiest way to pocket me.

t r i n i t y ' s been on fire with then, only has one in each VC (consider going 0 at some point)

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Anyway it is just a few hours before the deadline so unless everyone suddenly starts participating it looks like this will probably be the end of the line for me

You're fineeeeee. Isis will come on before deadline and vote Infinity over you probably.

I'm pretty confident on Flopz. His thoughts are a lot more natural and open than the game we played a couple of weeks ago where he was scum. I also think the encryptor thing is a likely townslip.

[Hectic]

What are you claiming?

It's Infinity or Flopz today. Highly recommend Infinity over Flopz/

pedit: wait, what am I saying. *Pooky or Infinity, recommend Infinity

pedit pedit: nice claim

[Hectic]

Good thing I'm the backup encryptor enabler

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i just yeeted infinity. does that count?

its something, sorta. we will see whether its something good tho.

VOTE: Tayl0r

I agree with Infinity about this post. Faking uncertainty about a flip after the person says they're town and continues to post reads is something I've seen scum do way too often.

2 of Tayl0r, Hopkirk, Isis for me.

Pedit: Sorry, Infinity. You will be vengeancesecedned

Oh, actually, Pooky

can

still be scum, but it'd have to be exactly with Isis. My townread on him is dependent entirely on his interactions with her, and if they were both scum, it negates that reasoning.

[Hectic]

Wait...Bell actually being an encryptor enabler makes Flopz's townslip a possible scumslip...hmmm. Gonna have to reread that stuff a lot more closely.

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I can't be scum with Isis Hectic.

Why not? A lot of your interactions were fluff/buddying which I don't think is terribly hard to fake. That said, I still think you're town and it's very unlikely fwiw

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it is a lot easier to town-read you when you have that avatar hectic :3

But my hat is cut off :[

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Thank you, I worked hard on growing the nose especially

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Pooky
Flopz < pending serious review
Isis
Hopkirk
Tayl0r

Alright, back to sleep for me. Watch my back, Pooky.

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That isn't really the reaction I expected from Tayl0r. I'm not really sure what to make of it lol. Tayl0r, why do you townread me so strongly, other than me being paranoid of you?

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Flopz taking my encryptor question so seriously very well could be a scumslip. He responded to my question around 90 minutes after I asked it, so my theory about him talking to his partner before addressing it holds less water. Actually though, if Isis/Hop are scum with Flopz and one of Flopz/them is an encryptor, they probably mention they're meming in the scum PT, idk, it's hard to imagine this scenario.

I kinda just want to flip the potential scumslip too. Flopz!scum is gonna be a lot more hyperaware about Encryptors and Enablers if one of the scum is an Encryptor (which they probably are).

UNVOTE: Tayl0r

Will think about it.

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Pooky, what was the reasoning for wanting to push Isis close to EoD 2, and why didn't you follow through on it?

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Can you explain what you mean here in regards to Pooky, I haven't really thought about pairings yet so can you explain how you worked that out.

His pocketing play, and the way he's been talking to Isis feels a lot more genuine than his recent scumgame (Menagerie). 90% of the read is based on thinking scum!Pooky would feel guilty and wouldn't emotionally manipulate this hard as scum.

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IC lol. I didn't realise it was a meme.

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Clearly not seriously enough to bypass Isis's loveliness

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Could also close your eyes, but understandable if plucking your eyes out is easier

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I'm like the worst source on Isis reads. I have a tendency to townread her tone, and her consistently non-surface-level reads. They're essentially random so I ignore myself when I have a read on her most of the time. The only time I've successfully scumread her is when her scum partners had really dodgy interactions with her, so I figured it was probably SvS.

If Flopz is town, it's probably Isis + Tayl0r.

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They're essentially random

"They're" being my reads on her

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Woah, I just saw it now. It definitely wasn't like this 20 minutes ago

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Snow!Isis is best!Isis

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Interesting, I actually like that a lot as an extended reaction test.

Pedit: uh, can you not

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(Isis is obviously just joking around. I would've changed my avatar by now if we were scum together. Obviously)

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Bell dying over lend points a little to Flopz!scum too. Could've just left Bell around to continue pushing Flopz if it's not him.

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I think every scum shoots Bell because lend isn't going to do anything..

It's arguable better to leave Bell around if he is gonna do stuff which helps your wincon.

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*arguably

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Thinking about all the possible teams, I'm still landing on one of these as most likely:

Flopz/Tayl0r
Isis/Tayl0r

This is based on interactions and the way people have entered today. But Tayl0r doesn't actually feel like scum...

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Could also be Hop/Flopz. That would be funny.

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If you posted all of Hectic's avatars in one PT the site would crash

I only have 10... give or take a few 0s

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Should I scumread you because you're actually able to consider me as scum this game Hectic?

You mean because town!me defaults to townreading you? I thought scum!me did that too.

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Yeah......... mistakes were made there. I thought you were obvtown based on pushing hoopla, but I should've read the room better regarding Bella/Gera.

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Also I could just never push you in bad faith <3

If I'm gonna push you, I need good reasons. Like if you have a broken quote somewhere

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why does no one want pooky? i dont understand why pooky is townread and i feel like pooky should be in everyones PoE

Still 1177. Do you not see that?

I looked back through Isis/Pooky interactions and I'd be really impressed if some of it was S-S.

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Do you not see that?

As in, do you not see what I'm seeing there

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Flopz, come defend yourself pls

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Why are you voting for Flopz then, Tayl0r

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Sorry, I keep accidentally getting pagetops and feeling out of place. Someone give me some cover, I feel vulnerable.

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he scumslipped!

is the supposed scumslip the main reason you think flopz is scum?

Yes

ok but like... how often do scumslips come from scum? im starting to think that townslips are scum-indicative and scumslips are town-indicative on average, and particular instances should just be viewed as NAI.

It depends on the instance. "slip" is a very broad term. Semantics slips are almost always irrelevant and NAI. This is a very specific mechanics based slip, which suggests Flopz is informed about a mechanic which he shouldn't be if he was VT. Context is important here.

[Hectic]

It's maybe not a scumslip and Hectic is bamboozling me by giving me two greenflip options today when he's just scum with Hopsies or something lol

Worrying that you frame it this way given you were the first to properly push it today.

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It feels bad to have no confident scumreads. I'm kind of still at an eh Flopz is probably the best launch state of mind right now.

Pedit: maybe, I'll reread

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You put him as second from towniest in a readslist with an asterisk

what does that even

mean

Hectic?!?!?

what does that

meeeean

?

and then you changed your interpretation based just on whether I was supporting it.

Which is like
you know I'm town
:0

:0 :0

:0 :0 :0 :0

I reread the Flopz stuff after which is what changed my mind

I know you're town deep down, yes. Your role PM might be trying to deceive you though.

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VOTE: HOCTAC

VOTE: tea leaves

VOTE: Kim Mask

VOTE: Hectic

Always comes to this, doesn't it lol

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your

*you're

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Tbh the only reason I like Tayl0r is because I think the extended reaction test where she locktowns me and then waits to see how I react is really towny, and her describing her getting more and more paranoid until I scumread her felt legit.

Flopz is still my preffered launch.

I did reread it, yeah, Isis. I'm pretty sure I summarised it somewhere too.

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I just remembered you emphasizing camarederie and cooperation with me with it, which is SCUMMY

Fair enough, this is very scummy, I should be deathtunneling you. I do respect your opinion though!

How do I show you my soul? I showed it to you in full and unfiltered in Forest Fire and it appeared tainted to you €_€
I don't think I've ever been more loose/wearing my SOUL on my sleeve than that game.

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Flopz taking my encryptor question so seriously very well could be a scumslip. He responded to my question around 90 minutes after I asked it, so my theory about him talking to his partner before addressing it holds less water. Actually though, if Isis/Hop are scum with Flopz and one of Flopz/them is an encryptor, they probably mention they're meming in the scum PT, idk, it's hard to imagine this scenario.

I kinda just want to flip the potential scumslip too. Flopz!scum is gonna be a lot more hyperaware about Encryptors and Enablers if one of the scum is an Encryptor (which they probably are).

UNVOTE: Tayl0r

Will think about it.

I literally and figuratively summarised it in my next post after Isis stated the read

I'm on a train so my connection is very wonky. Guess I've got some time before I'll be able to post this. Could just fill the post with useful fluff but you'll all skip over it then, and I'll ruin my reputation for being clinically efficient and to the point, like Looker. I like Looker, I used to
nope still can't post
Yeah, Looker is great because of how anti-concensus he is. He's like the odd person who doesn't walk around the weird circle on the pavement, even when everyone else is doing so for no good reason.

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I ended on townreading you in Forest Fire! Review the films after you finish watching them!

Really? I thought you always harboured some paranoia in your heart.

you like never give me any credit for hard TRing you offconsensus in Fusion you know I should bring that up more bang that drum

This is true...I voided that game from my memory because it was one of my worst games.
You can have a free incorrect scumread on me for that one.

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It felt really bad because I only joined for the lover part of the game, so dying before then really sucked, but you're right.

Your play in masons and mafia was great. That was great, Cheeky came so close to shooting the last mason before she changed her mind last minute.

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Wait, so you're scumreading me for changing my mind on Flopz after you stated you wanted to flip the scumslip?

If I'm scum, why state a readlist in the first place rather than waiting for reads and where the game state was, if my plane as to just follow the tide? I could've just pointed the potential Flopz scumslip out like I did, but not reaffirm where Flopz was in my reads at that moment of time.

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Doubt

My Tayl0r/Isis paranoia is higher than ever right now

Nope, cool name though

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I reread Hop and I think this is just like his regular town game, I'd expect some kind of difference if this was his first scumgame in 3 years or whatever.

Hop, can you look through Isis/Pooky interactions and reassure me those are never SvS?

Flopz>Isis>Tayl0r are my new ordering of scumreads

I've decided to lose the filter. It might get me scumread but it's easier to play this way.

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I can't remember anything townie pooky has done productive, I more distantly remember a sort of style or approach to the pocketing he would do either way that made me lean town on it, mostly

Do you think Pooky would pocket you like this if he was scum?

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Oh wait, I brought my laptop on this train journey. I should be watching What we do in the Shadows

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I think she's played more a reactive role in this whole process lol
I haven't sorted the way she's reacted as towny or scummy, I think she'd react similarly as both alignments

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hectic you scumread me now? what changed? and didnt you just say flopz is probtown because meta?

Pooky/Hop
Tayl0r
Isis
Flopz

are my reads

Flopz does feel townier in comparison to his last game. But the scumslip is better evidence than any other scumpings I've found anywhere else, this is the problem

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i'm town and if you're town too we're probably sharing an L here

the d1 yeet didn't do much to solve the game and our only town power effect is gonna be the masons getting NKed back to back

I'm not sure who the scumteam is

maybe Hectic Taylor is safest because it's a packagey theory

or maybe i should find one really scummy person then we get 2 guess after

I don't know anyone really scummy though

This pessimistic outlook of the game pings me. I'm in a completely different mindset right now, I have s couple of good townreads and I think the game is very winnable. I'm not sure how much of a scumtell it is for another player to be so varying in their overall outlook of the game, but eh.

Isis, what do you mean by the second last line? We get 2 guesses after

if

we flip scum today, in which case we'd be in a great position.

What's the theory on Hectic/Tayl0r?

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I think she's played more a reactive role in this whole process lol
I haven't sorted the way she's reacted as towny or scummy, I think she'd react similarly as both alignments

yea but do you think town!Isis would be more accepting of my love?

You mean she'd feel some guilt as scum so she's holding herself back here a little? Maybe, I'm not sure.

Tayl0r, Hop is more meta and playing just like he has in his previous 6 or 7 games. He hasn't rolled scum in years.

Isis's push on me feels like she's more obligated to make it because she has a habit if scumreading me when she's town, but the reasons here are very iffy.

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No, I haven't earned that perk yet. How does one do it?

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Maybe I'm dumb for slotting Pooky as town for the reasons I have.

I really want Hop to come back.

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Isis, you're saying Tayl0r is town while thinking Tayl0r/Hectic makes the most sense. What do you

meeeeaaan

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Okay, going underground now.

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Tayl0r voting for Flopz tells us very little, Pooky. Especially since her heart didn't seem in it (she was talking about alternate wagons and why Flopz's slip was scum-indicative while voting him), and she's switched off now. That team is still the most likely in my mind, it just feels too easy/convenient.

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He was busy with something tonight. I expect he'll be on tomorrow.

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It's just Flopz + Tayl0r. What gives me doubt is that they're the least experienced in the lobby so it seems convenient, but this sudden realisation from Isis is pretty towny.

If I'm wrong about one, it's these teams:
Tayl0r + Isis
Flopz + Hop

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Yeah, I know lol, it's pretty towny.

Can you vote for Flopz?

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VOTE: Flopz

Lend

, please neighbourise Hopkirk tonight. Isis has explained why this is essential above.

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danica told me to do it. She speaks to me.

I feel really good about Flopz flipping scum, we'll be fineeeee. Hop and I joke around all the time, I think him taking our claims seriously is a legitimate slip.

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Not convincingly! You'd see my nose twitching if I was lying to you, Pooky

[Hectic]

You need to binge it in time for the Sonic themed game I'll be modding, you'll have no immersion otherwise. Pooky's starring as the protagonist and everything.

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lendustinus, you need to target Hopkirk tonight

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VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

Pretty sure it's this. I hammered Flopz because I'd rather he get launched before Tayl0r, because you guys might've paired me with her if we flipped her first, which would be pretty bad.

Tayl0r half-heartedly joined Flopz's wagon while arguing that the slip was town-indicative, not scum-indicative, and then tried to heavily redirect onto Pooky.

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danica told me be wary about the possibility of 3 scum. I don't if she's using some classic WIFOM on me, but it's got me kinda paranoid that we could be in lalo. Hence why I'm trying to vote for the scum before the other scum get any sneaky opportunities to quickhammer.

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*I don't know

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I like the setup bugspray designed where I'm a scum backup encryptor enabler and Hectic is an encryptor enabler and Hectic is an encrypter

This is correct. I've stolen Hop's role and am very essential to us having daytalk. Don't let me die.

Flopz, what do you think of the encryptor and enabler claims so far?
Hop claimed Encryptor.
I claimed Encryptor Enabler.
Isis claimed Backup Encryptor Enabler.
Check the wiki if you don't understand what these mean (encryptor in town's hands allows us to speak during the day in the thread).

From my view of the set-up, and the wiki, and how people have been talking, it seems like this game is gonna have multiple pts, either through neighbour/mason shenanigans. Encryptor makes perfect sense in this set-up and looks to be pretty potent in the hands of good town, will also put a massive target on your back as why would scum want to allow town to speak to each other during the day in pts. So Hopkirk's claim is either a massive gambit or legit, my plan was to see what happens during the night before making a decision on his claim :cop:

Backup makes sense as otherwise the gimick for the Micro could end pretty quickly :nerd:

Yours and Isis' claim is interesting too as killing the enabler will make the encryptor pointless. A Backup isn't implausible but I don't know how much I'm supposed to trust what Isis has been claiming. Your claim might be spookier than Hops as if your role gets shut down its all over, well unless there's a backup. You could be bluffing or you could be the back-up with Isis being the main one or you could be legit but why would you two switch that makes no sense I'm rambling. I feel Isis' claim is the most doubtful in terms of likelihood of the role but it wouldn't be surprising for that role to be here in this type of set-up :cool:

The fact that you all posted claims in like a 5 minute span is a bit spoopy too but not sure what I can do with that information :?

Spoiler:

I'm obviously not aligned with Flopz btw. I'm the one who got him to make the encryptor TMI slip in the first place lol

[Hectic]

that could be true..

what if its Hectic/Hopkirk/Flopz - our london boys together? :3

Wtf, he's onto us, Hop. How do I deflect? Can you chainsaw him while I flamethrower Tayl0r?

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oops

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well you and hopkirk both did it together.

and then you denied it was a slip when Isis brought it up :3

Flopz assumed we were telling the truth though rather than joking. For me to be scum, you'd have to believe I intentionally misled my scum partner into slipping, while not saying anything in the scum PT about how he shouldn't slip any information, or how I'm only joking. Oh wait, he would know my role in this scenario anyway. It's why Hop/Isis/I are not aligned with him, because for him to take it seriously, none of them are his partners.

[Hectic]

You'll just have to see

[Hectic]

Sorry about that day 1 launch, Infinity :[

Your spirit powered us up for the remainder of the game.

Flopz, can you stop rolling scum please? How're you gonna enjoy mafia if you only stick with one alignment?

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danica, explain what happened!! Thank you for transforming into t r i n i t y and feeding me conspiracy theories every once in a while btw