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[Staarling]

Hi!! Dragons have a mixed reputation in evilness so I have my eye on you

I think we just do random stuff until we get some information? I dunno

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@Iconeum: What's the story with Georgebailey?

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What does townspew mean? I couldn't find that one on the wiki :<

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I just noticed that you said innocent villager reeked of innocence, which I don't even understand how from his dadisi vote, but then you voted for him anyway. You have a strange way of showing your trust!!!

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@Iconeum: Gotcha!

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Should the masons claim so the investigative doesn't waste time on them?

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@Datisi: I've played a bit on Hogwarts Extreme. It's not a mafia site like this one but has mafia games. Everyone on this site seems to be way more into it so that's exciting :>

Also I used to play town of salem if that counts

[Staarling]

I think Gypyx and Ydrasse are townies!

Datisi less so, but I also have good feelings from him

I really liked Cyber Stockholm Syndrome, Ydrasse :>

[Staarling]

why does that reaction make you scumlean ico?

ohhh

i think we are t/t this game?

Does t/t mean Iconeum is saying both are town? i don't trust it for some reason, like Iconeum is trying to get people on his side eagerly if you know what I mean

[Staarling]

I think he was really angry and where I played, mafia were less likely to get angry or really emotional, sometimes they fake it but this time it looked real to me. And the other reason was that I think the quote at the bottom of his posts is quite townie, like he doesn't want to show off about people calling him good at being a townie to make us want to keep him around, instead he's showing off him being a very solid mod.

[Staarling]

Oh you're right, you're showing off being good at mafia which means you're not scared of others getting paranoid of your skill. unless you're reaaaally confident and are playing with us :<

[Staarling]

but i think that it'll become more overt as we go on if his frustrated reaction was actually scum caught out and struggling to like, counter reasons that aren't ~good~ ones (caught for wrong reasons, blah blah)

I don't like mind Gypyx giving breathing room but uh... what exactly makes you think this reaction on page 6 (which will eventually become some random thing people forgot) will become more AI over time if he's scum?

I think interesting things can happen when we keep the heat on someone who has accumulated heat due to the specifics of the gamestate. Simply giving him breathing room because the very initial reasoning was meh seems like a wasted opportunity. But at the same time, I know it's not fun as either alignment to be under fire like this (and people forget this is a game) so if there's nothing really scummy yet I'm fine with backing down for now

it also seems like a dumb take to think someone decided on page 2 they were going to townread a specific player like that. it seemed very chalant in the way it was posted which... meh. if gypyx really had an agenda i think they'd try a bit harder with it.

there's not always an agenda behind every scumpost other than free content/looking town/doing town things. It could kind of just be a TMI slip. When I'm scum everyone just kind of... looks town because I know they're town. So I start fitting reasons to the read instead of the other way around. Gypyx kind of just doubled down on the whole post structure thing when I pressed him which felt like it *could* be explained by that

it's not the reaction itself, but more so his behavior as a whole which i feel will become like... easier to discern? at least for me, personally. like, at this point gypyx has been sort of isolated as the Main Person Pushed and that puts a spotlight on him which is hard to escape at this point, unless he does some Really Good Posting in which... well, uh, right now i don't think a scum!gypyx would be able to pull that off given the heat thus far which would indicate he's town.

but by being isolated/pointed out i feel that a) it's less likely that he will be able to get things by us as scum if he goes down bad roads, b) it gives him a unique position to try and point out (if he's town) who/where/etc he thinks the pushes are shitty/scum-oriented, and c) it's probably not going to be forgotten. to me, gypyx's push/reaction is the first big ~moment~ of the game and that's more likely to stick in people's minds than not.

i wasn't thinking of it as him just... slipping up though, admittedly. i tend to think that that sort of thing happens less likely than people want it to (bc it would make shit so much easier) so my brain goes straight to "scum are Doing Everything With Purpose."

idk! i just wanna give him some room to recollect, see what happens. worst case i am an idiot and everyone was right and you may point and laugh at me.

Why is Main Person Pushed and Really Good Posting capitalized?

You asked me about Datisi after this post so I'll answer that here. I think the way he entered and especially tried to get the top post of the page was quite fearless, like he isn't scared to stand out. But maybe that's just a Staarling projecting her own confidence and what it means onto other players ^^

[Staarling]

@Datisi: Got it! It only really matters if they're in just 1 game then

@Ydrasse: Oke! I was wodnering if they had some special meaning

[Staarling]

CAN I GET THIS POST IN PLEASE THANKS

OK

@Datisi: I think 85 and 88 was off from Iconeum because it was calling you town in one and then mafia in the other. I think mafia usually have more crazy or not consistent thoughts like that. The post here because I don't think it's that angry about not getting a post in, I think the anger maaaay be fake

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Everyone's posting now!!!

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What's that?

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@Datisi: the first thing I thought was that you could be mafia together because you're defending it and it was trying to call both of you town >:) but if you know how it plays and is always like this and someone else can also say the same, theeen I'd trust what you're saying.. and back to a square one on Iconeum

@everyone: has anyone else played with Iconeum?

[Staarling]

@Datisi: Got it! It only really matters if they're in just 1 game then

also i just realized like, unfortunate implications of this and i need to correct it

signatures don't matter even if the person is only in one game, because changing a signature (which is sitewide) because of a single game counts at talking about ongoing games, and someone got modkilled for doing something similar last year

so like don't do that

:o
sorry, I didn't know! i definitely won't

[Staarling]

Speak of the dragon!!

[Staarling]

I think Gypyx and Ydrasse are townies!

Datisi less so, but I also have good feelings from him

I really liked Cyber Stockholm Syndrome, Ydrasse :>

VOTE: staarling

so sorry you rolled scum, my daarling

I didn't :c

[Staarling]

@Iconeum: I'm not eager to but his fearlessness looked townie to me earlier. he did it again on the top of this page

[Staarling]

When I wrote that out we were still on the last page :>

[Staarling]

What did you speedrun, Datisi?

[Staarling]

I don't really get it but nice!! I like the sports car in the emblem

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@GeorgeBailey: Why would your haircut make someone think you're a townie?

i also noticed that innocent villager called you a townie before you'd even posted yet! could you say why, villager

[Staarling]

VOTE: vote: Iconeum

[Staarling]

I have bad feelings

@Iconeum: Where do you think you've done "towntelling"?

[Staarling]

why does that reaction make you scumlean ico?

ohhh

i think we are t/t this game?

l m a owhy am i town ico, i thought i was scumy with gypyx? :3

because there's 2 scenarios

1) ur actually town, and u are in your town meta of bad reads
2) ur scum, and i need to you think i'm townreading you so you don't kill me

I think Gypyx and Ydrasse are townies!

Datisi less so, but I also have good feelings from him

I really liked Cyber Stockholm Syndrome, Ydrasse :>

VOTE: staarling

so sorry you rolled scum, my daarling

UNVOTE:

don't think staarling is that bad after my catchup

reeks more of eager town then actual scum pushing

if u'll excuse me

i have to go and find an ice pack to put on my ego

i felt invincible prior to this game

pls mini

while i still have some dignity left

and now ur gonna go 'oh my gosh ico, you don't sr him but he's in your solve? thats so scummy'

right?

[Staarling]

I have bad feelings from Iconeum, innocentvillager, and GeorgeBailey so far

Everyone else I like :>

Usually when I play I have people I'm not sure on either way so this is new for me!

[Staarling]

I just noticed that we have 5 days for the deadline. That's a looooot of time

[Staarling]

no, I have bad feeling because of those posts

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm not that confident!! but it's enough for me to want to vote for Iconeum

[Staarling]

why are you defending Iconeum so much? is it both of you together?

earlier when Datisi was trying to vote for you and asked Iconeum for help, he also just said he was watching and said nothing about you

>:c

[Staarling]

I think Iconeum voted for me but quoted a post where I said some reads but he actually voted for me because I said he was suspicious, but he didn't want it to look like that so just gave a gif to that post. and then when he saw I changed my mind on him because of what Datisi said he said he changed his mind on me as well. also the posts before that were quite mean like he really wanted to take me down and I think it's because he thought I was onto him

[Staarling]

@Iconeum: do you mean you could be the type who likes to take down his partners?

for the other thing, I'm saying you decided to change your mind if you were mafia. if you were town, you changed your mind

[Staarling]

@Iconeum: 165 and 215

[Staarling]

I don't know for all of them!!! they're just feelings so if I tried to explain I feel like I'd be making some reasons up.. maybe I shouldn't be voting if I can't explain everything fully

[Staarling]

now you're making me feel bad for voting you :<

[Staarling]

@Iconeum: 165 and 215

so what is scum!me thinking here, Staarling? I vote you because i'm afraid you caught me, only to change my mind after you 'uncaught' me?

that was my theory.. but Datisi and Shelly are both saying it's bad so unless all 3 of you are mafia which I think would be too obvious I'm probably just wrong

VOTE: un vote

UNVOTE: By Sirius9121

[Staarling]

@shelly: definitely as townie. playing as the mafia stresses me out and I feel unconfident when saying things. I'm really glad to be a townie in this game :>
but jester is actually my favorite role, acting as bad as you want and winning for it is amazing!!

[Staarling]

I'm not a jester this time though, or am I.....

[Staarling]

What does the daddy thing mean?

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1 scum in (shellyc/Ydrasse) and 1 scum in (GB/gypyx)

wait george baily is in this game?

whats your SR on ydrasse from?

@Ydrasse: When I saw this my first thought was that it was both shelly and GeorgeBailey, but I also thought Staarling was probably being paranoid..

[Staarling]

VOTE: innocentvillager I have bad feelings from the way he's arguing with Datisi :<
like he's getting annoyed for the sake of it

[Staarling]

:o how does the triangle work, Datisi? how do you decide if someone is blue instead of green or red? i want to try this, it looks like fun!

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also also what if you made it a square and added a jester corner?

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i like the idea of that i think, some times i'm not sure about someone too or have uneasy feelings so i get why the blue can help. i'll try making one now and report back :>

[Staarling]

this is harder than it looks

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i finished mine and then looked at Datisi's again and realized i'm not using enough of the canvas :<

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innocent villager seemed excited to play with Datisi at the start of this so i don't get why he looks unhappy to play with him now

@Datisi: i like Mini because she was asking a lot of questions and trying to figure everything out

[Staarling]

it seems mean to pretend to vote and push someone like that, shelly :<

[Staarling]

why did georgebailey leave the game? does anyone know if he likes playing as mafia or townie?

[Staarling]

i think Gypyx is a townie cuz he's fine with dying and doesn't care, i think mafia would care more. if you're a townie, you should care more than this though!!

i have some bad feelings from you, battle mage :c

[Staarling]

if you were town here Gypyx, I don't understand why you didn't put up more of a fight

doesn't this make more sense from Gypyx if he's just a vanilla townie? i think he'd put up more of a fight if he was a powerful role or mafia..

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@Ydrasse: your triangle is almost like mine! we both have almost straight line graphs :>

@Battle Mage: hmmm i dunno. i was confused by post 928 as well because it seems like an innocent mistake Gypyx made even if he is mafia so why would it make you more confident

[Staarling]

i really don't like Battle Mage now

[Staarling]

VOTE: Battle Mage

seems to me that he changed his mind on me as soon as he saw i had some suspicion on him

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@battle mage: i'm suspicious of you because you're one of the people voting for Gypyx who i think is a townie but i think i dislike your reasons the most. i think you're making them up

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@Battle Mage: i'm not suspicious of everyone voting for gypyx!! just you cuz the reasons you were giving when talking about him seemed maybe like you were lying. even if you're not confident and think he's a townie, you still gave reasons for why he's mafia while voting him like you were trying to justify your vote, and those didn't seem real to me

@shelly: i think you should do a gunsmith check on battle mage :>

[Staarling]

i'm back!!!

so my early read today is that shelly is town because of the way Sirius was explaining how all flips are the same and the don't think too much part. if shelly were mafia, she would already know that Ydrasse was the mafia kill

[Staarling]

Sorry guys got prodded i'll catchup soon, very busy in the grave rn

with permission from

Sirius9121

@Gypyx: why are you still allowed to post?

[Staarling]

@Batlle Mage: what kind of case on Mini?

[Staarling]

Nothing has happened.

Was something else here before it was edited?

[Staarling]

i think she's a townie :<
i'd rather vote you than her, sorry. did you say why you think she's suspicious?

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@Mini: I don't get what he's saying haha
did he say why he's suspicious of you?

alsooo i just realized that shelly was roleblocked instead of being killed even though she said she's a gunsmith.. is that normal for mafia to do?

[Staarling]

wait Ydrasse was really sure on shelly being mafia and she died in the night, what if shelly killed her to keep her quiet?
maybe i'm onto something here!!!
VOTE: shelly

[Staarling]

hmm she has innocentvillager lowest in her 736 big reads post. i think him or shelly probably had a good reason to kill her? so it might be at least 1 of them? at least that's what a paranoid Staarling thinks

[Staarling]

i'm still not sure on shelly but innocentvillager was the other person who i thought could be the killer. should i vote for him?

[Staarling]

hey!

[Staarling]

okie dokie, kinda nervous because i've never hammered before :>

but here goes, sorry if you're townie!!
VOTE: innocentvillager

[Staarling]

i thought iconeum was the third vote on him?

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why does it feel like i messed up :<
everyone was saying they were fine with him being the vote today!!

[Staarling]

well played, Datisi!!!
and villager too :>

your theatering was really a smart move

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:>

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i apologise, shellyCult

[Staarling]

Gypyx is quickly amassing a fanbase

i want to be the organiser