The Trials - ENDGAME

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok im going to be honest i hopped on the wagon before actually reading pickaxe. and if pickaxe is scum then ive been looking at this game completely wrong. but looking over the iso, theres lots of sheep/weakly reasoned votes and not much substance. i think this is more than just a compromise wagon and actually has a solid chance of hitting scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think thats L-2

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think thats L-2

Is it? I think that's only the three votes right here on this page, no?

yes... dont we need 5 votes?

[Tayl0r Swift]

ok i think its L-3

[Tayl0r Swift]

well we're L-1 -2

how about that

[Tayl0r Swift]

how do u see im on?

theres a list of online people if you go to the board index. at the bottom. when you log in you can tick the box to hide your online status and you wont show up in that list if you care.

[Tayl0r Swift]

how do u see im on?

I can see your name come up as the last poster on various threads.

Why do you not like this wagon? Because Pickaxe is a lurker?

oh or that

[Tayl0r Swift]

if noraa flips town im gonna have a big "i told you so" for everyone.

[Tayl0r Swift]

you dont have anything to say about the case on you other than you think its lame?

[Tayl0r Swift]

@mod

can we get prods on marashu and vecna?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Do we really want to be prodding scum when they can just ensure town get lynched?

i want them active or replaced. i have vecna as town anyway. i need some content from marashu to sort that slot. im sure vecna is just busy or something, but marashu could easily be scum just lurking the game out.

[Tayl0r Swift]

theres also no reason to believe any of the trials were passed. we know at least two were failures.

[Tayl0r Swift]

if three fail its still true that two failed. it doesnt make sense that if town performs even worse we get a reward.
the different results can be simply explained by the trials being different.
and how would we figure out that theyre all town for sure without flipping them?

{titus and dgb}
{gypyx and glitch}
{marashu}
{nos}

marashu slides further down the readlist the longer the slot lurks
gypyx was decently solid town but im not convinced by the posts today... at all.
titus i have as town right now, but im kind of paranoid. but also, titus is probably just town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

dgb i initally had a townread on glitch too, but im more confident in titus!scum atm, and they cant both be town. work with us here. glitch has some sketchy posts. the game doesnt make sense with glitch!town

[Tayl0r Swift]

yep. does it make sense with titus!town swapped in?

[Tayl0r Swift]

My list is zero too in theory.

In practice, I'll townread for today anyone willing to vote Mara with me.

i dont like this post. i dont think town ever manipulates people into joining wagon as opposed to just presenting a case.

why is no one talking about nos today?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Nos is the only one willing to vote obvscum Mara. No one's talking about Mara but me. Why should I ever consider voting the only lifeline I have to eliminating Mara?

i think i can turn this around and it remains true:
mara is the only one willing to vote obvscum nos. No one's talking about nos but me. Why should I ever consider voting the only lifeline I have to eliminating nos?

I've wanted to eliminate nos for days

[Tayl0r Swift]

titus can you towncase nos?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Oh and this is definitely drunk Titus who feels really alone.

im here drunk titus! lets figure this out.

[Tayl0r Swift]

My bac is probably a .2. I can't keep secrets.

who do you think has the most scum equity with each of marashu an nos?

[Tayl0r Swift]

So right now I'm in a position where I have too much town, so I'm wrong somewhere, and my gut's still telling me Glitch, but it's late, and I'm tired of looking at the screen, and I don't know if I'm still just tunneling this slot.

@Gypyx - do you think Titus and Glitch would be SvS at this stage in the game?

I'm pretty sure that titus engaged in theater somewhere yes, the question is if it's you or Glitch fmpov

this implies that you think titus is scum. talk to me about your titus scumread?

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah i was very sad that drunk titus appeared in the thread and was already gone by the time i showed up

[Tayl0r Swift]

[Tayl0r Swift]

Hear me out DGB, scum!titus and town!nosferatu doesn't make sense, that's not a slip

Basically, the reason is : why would scum!titus push the angle that the gladiate was town/town/town?

she would if it had either one or two scum in it, right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so far i havent seen a single post from maxwell that i thought could ever come from town

[Tayl0r Swift]

oh boy. this is a vanilla game. odds that that came from town who didnt read the setup vs scum being told to dumbtell?

[Tayl0r Swift]

we are probably in lylo, there was a vote on you, and scum didnt quickhammer so... you are also the most scumread slot. titus has been defending you and pushing marashu. dgb is probtown. gypyx is probtown. glitch could easily be scum here.

[Tayl0r Swift]

Well, vote was on overnight while no one posted so I wouldn't say it counts for much. Understood this slot's scumread, mind explaining why? Or why dgb and gypyx are town?

it lurked a lot and didnt do much to solve while still posting. it didnt feel like town!nosferatu. dgb myself and titus have been doing most of the solving i feel. gypyx is a more gut-level read for me personally. but i dont think that my reads are gonna help you sort people.

[Tayl0r Swift]

maxwell what are your reads now?

[Tayl0r Swift]

have you finished reading the whole thread?

[Tayl0r Swift]

and why do you excuse titus for making excuses for idle and obvscum!nos?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i mostly just wanted titus to give them equal treatment.

[Tayl0r Swift]

it creeps me out that titus and maxwell are so buddy buddy, even though i think titus is probably town. very strange for a slot to replace in and immediately reciprocate the defense. they strongly townread each other and each has marashu as top scum.

[Tayl0r Swift]

it creeps me out that titus and maxwell are so buddy buddy, even though i think titus is probably town. very strange for a slot to replace in and immediately reciprocate the defense. they strongly townread each other and each has marashu as top scum.

I mean, sure, if you ignore everything I've actually said in my stream of consciousness, it's strange.

well it seems like you didnt read everything, since marashu has made some very good posts today.

[Tayl0r Swift]

well yeah thats why i asked you if youd read everything

[Tayl0r Swift]

Feels very wrong that I might end up casting a game deciding vote here when I've been in the game less than a day but my impression on a readthrough is not a lot of people seemed to care anyway.

this post implied you had finished the readthrough. thats why i asked. why are you being so aggressive about it?

[Tayl0r Swift]

initially it was a misunderstanding but your reaction does seem a bit overblown

[Tayl0r Swift]

someone come tell me im confbiasing or tunneling pls

[Tayl0r Swift]

someone come tell me im confbiasing or tunneling pls

Why would scum!maxwell pick a fight with you?

why would town!maxwell?

im leaning towards it being scum with raised fur telling people to back off

[Tayl0r Swift]

I said I didnt like her play earlier. Rn my mind is kinda occupied with these two and I don't think titus fits into the last slot.

i mean i dont know if i see a DBG and titus pairing, but i definitely see titus and glitch. why do you think dgb is scum?

Why are you drawing a connection between Titus and Glitch, exactly?

eh perhaps i overstated it. my point was to contrast having relatively stronger reasons why it isnt DGB and titus, while there was no reason it couldnt be titus and glitch.

[Tayl0r Swift]

You had stated a little while earlier that {nos, titus, glitch} was your solve so I don't know how you could have been "overstating" it

mhmm, but i dont have them as my solve because of associations. you and titus have lots of associations though.

[Tayl0r Swift]

You had stated a little while earlier that {nos, titus, glitch} was your solve so I don't know how you could have been "overstating" it

mhmm, but i dont have them as my solve because of associations. you and titus have lots of associations though.

Okay. Won't deny the latter point based on my read, but I'm town. Not impossible for Titus to have been white knighting a town slot as scum but in general she strikes me as the one person who was attempting to scumhunt in some meaningful way.

you dont think i was attempting to scumhunt?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i want to say that ill vote for glitch here. but i dont think many others will.

[Tayl0r Swift]

im gonna be brave and VOTE: glitch

[Tayl0r Swift]

so gypyx tries to get me to move my vote and then votes maxwell. hmmm

[Tayl0r Swift]

hmmm ok let me ponder. i have to go for a while but ill hammer marashu unless something crazy happens in the next few hours. UNVOTE:

[Tayl0r Swift]

VOTE: maxwell im gonna trust my gut on gypyx!town

[Tayl0r Swift]

oof that hammer was quick... does that imply dgb is scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

what is everyone's solve in case you die tonight?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so titus you stand by your scumteam of glitch gypyx and marashu? or does that mean you're TMIing that you know maxwell will flip town and youre scum?

[Tayl0r Swift]

Btw why did I even die? O_o

You were too cutesy, we needed elimination bait and you weren't it.

I mean ..... I was a leading counter to Pete so I do not understand that :/

i thought we should have killed titus instead. on the last day most of our solves didnt quite add up, since we were listing two townies as town plus all three scum, leaving a solve of two people. noraa you died because youre too unpredictable in the end. thats partly why we killed the replaced slot. replacements change the gamestate, and town replacements into inactive slots can only help town, really.

gg everyone, thanks not known!

[Tayl0r Swift]

oh and sorry for twilight trolling yesterday. we knew it was lylo but we were still concerned that the game wouldnt end.

[Tayl0r Swift]

even with maximum failure town got 3 mislunches. had another trial been passed it would have been 5. thats a lot.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah but you guys got 6 kills, that's largly enough to kill any threatening player

3 nightkills, 2 punishment kills. i think the setup is scumsided in the event of maximum failure. but without maximum failure it might not be.