The Trials - ENDGAME

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yo gypyx, DGB, get on board!

Why me and DGB exactly? DGB didn't even post

But yeah, choo chooVOTE: pob

Battle Mage and go back a long time! Also he's town.

VOTE: pob long

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VOTE: Vecna

Sonething isn't right in the game without Vecna spamming it.

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I feel like half the game is speaking a foreign language that I do not understand.

Fidget, what's your Leia read?

Confused.

I think there's the potential for her being town but I don't really agree with anything I'm hearing from her. It's sometimes hard for me distinguish where she is joking and where she isn't. Like, if she gives 1 real reason to suspect tayl0r among 4 joke ones, it's like :/

Also, her running away when I proposed my real-time question test is scum-indicative. Town are more likely to see it as opportunity to show their worth, while scum will think of it as a "ugh, I can't be bothered with this" and disappear instead.

Tempted to vote because she really is just making up stuff on tayl0r at this point which I could potentially see as a "Don't vote me, vote them!" dishonest kind of reaction from scum.

This is spot on. Fidget is town.

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Princess Leia is being replaced.

WUT

Oh and Red Panda is town.

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i for one need further explanation, although i can kinda see how shelly and leia could be scum maybe?

I am puzzled.

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I also somewhat thought shelly looked town for outing so many scumreads.

It's called casting a wide net of possible votes.

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Did you make this account just for this game? Does the c stand for Consigliere? That's just the type of bold move I'd expect scum to make.

yesterday someone told me that the c stood for Cult Leader...

time to make an alt I guess

SO MUCK AWKWARD

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Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

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yeah, iunno titus. i dont see fidget as scum here. and i think you're reaching. i dont know that you get to scumread people for sheeping you. especially since the reaction test was so obvious that it seemed like it wasnt a reaction test - it almost seemed like you wanted it to be obvious or something. im far more inclined to agree with vecna's take here. VOTE: titus

Very true but does that make Titus scum?

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By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.

There was no "scumslip" at all.

I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely.

Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.

I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.

Vecna is well Vecna.

VOTE: Fidget

Bolded part does seem like complete BS.

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By the way, Fidget is lockscum. Taylor is town.

There was no "scumslip" at all. I was testing the fluidity of the wagons entirely. Fidget was sheeping scum based on wagon momentum before but this seals it.

I have no read on shelley but I know Fidget is scared.

Vecna is well Vecna.

VOTE: Fidget

Why does your VCA always implicate me? It's astounding to me that you've suspected me in every game we've ever played together, except for the one I was scum in.

so does that mean you think titus is town because as town titus always falsely suspects you?

I've never played with Titus where she was scum, I don't think. You do make a good point that she's following the pattern I guess.

It mostly means I'm getting irritated for no reason though.

I know I said you're town earlier, but this stinks of bus'ing.

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That said, when I saw it, it was meant to gauge the towniness/scuminess of the person being targeted, so it strikes me as weird to do this to someone who is V/LA, or at least not waiting that it was fabricated until the person got back to see if she got nervous.

An actual good point being made.

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so titus and fidget were just distancing? this reconciliation reads really strange to me. but maybe thats just because its past bedtime.

Something is VERY OFF

I can't put my finger on what, exactly.

On one hand I am reading Fidget as town, but am puzzled by the extreme deference and attention paid to mollifying Titus, as if it was more important to convince Titus than the rest of the town.

On the other hand, Titus' phony gambit was just that, a phony gambit. But is it alignment-indicative? If so, which alignment?

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Hmmmm i think figet's reaction to titus's reaction test feels like paranoia, i'd say scum!paranoia but not sure about this one

What does that mean? Wouldn't scum paranoia be fake paranoia? So, does it feel like paranoia or does it feel fake?

Basically, paranoia generated by a scum mindset like, an "oh shit he's onto me" moment you see?

aka "caught for the wrong reasons?"

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Why meta is rubbish:

No. I don't argue what I did as VCA. As scum, I don't argue VCA early. I keep hidden the magical time where it becomes effective then more and more effective.

My townplay does involve more natural progression and is less cohesive than my scum play. My scum play has less holes but still frquently advises town of the best answer (unless forced into otherwise).

My personality is changing since my divorce though, which naturally carries over to how I play mafia. So meta circa 2017 should not be used to read me.

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I'm nursing a game crush on Battle Mage.

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Fidget, find your 'nads and help us find scum.

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OH WAIT

Pickaxe is replacing Leia? Mmmm

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Pickaxe Pete's iso is pretty bizarre with the shellyc obsession... but at the same time his points against shellyc are on point.

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Townleaning fidget and Titus. Titus reaction test is pretty indica to ice of a solving mindset and fidgets posting gives me a good vibe (this is more gut)

"Girls you're both pretty" or "it's town vs. town" is more likely to come from scum than from town.

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Pickaxe Pete's iso is pretty bizarre with the shellyc obsession... but at the same time his points against shellyc are on point.

So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.

This has been my point.

He's a weak player???

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So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.

Related,

who are you voting for, right now?

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So a weak player with a right read gets wagoned based on faulty reasoning from a town slot.

Related,

who are you voting for, right now?

Fidget. I'll probably move when I see the VC unless all major options are horrible.

If Pickaxe Pete is right about Shellyc, why aren't you voting shellyc? I was assuming that you were.

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i dont see what about titus' reaction test seems solvy

It's a big boisterous show of appearing solvy but in reality solves nothing. But it's just enough for a scum to poke their head out with a classic "above the fray" stance of calling them both town.

So indirectly, Titus stirring the pot in every direction might have netted us scum in an unexpected way.

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Do you want me to make an unofficial VC for you Titus

Titus, who do you feel about having a pet in the game? Is this grovelling from scum or town?

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That is VERY GOOD.

I can get behind this.

VOTE: shellyc

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Princess Leia's ISO also looks worse than it felt in real time. Deliberately obtuse/disingenuous style decidedly anti-town. I hope we can eliminate that slot today, so I dont have to actually go through it again and explain why it is so scummy.

I could get on board with that.

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shelly, that's -1, if you have a town PR, time to claim!

I WON'T FALL FOR IT LMFAO

I have a curse that I get to E-1 in all d1's I've completed

Stalling scum right here, ladies and germs.

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Eddie, since when is DGB a troll slot?

It's just another perfect example of meta trash.

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That is VERY GOOD.

I can get behind this.

VOTE: shellyc

This post bothered me at the time because 1) I wasn't feeling Titus's VCA and 2) it seemed a little too complimentary from DGB.

Like you, I was hell bent sure Shelly was lockscum so maybe there was confirmation bias.

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This post didn't make sense either. TvT is more likely to come from scum? She can't believe that.

TvT comments are often made by scum. Yes I believe that. Join date: 2005. I have seen it many, many times.

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I had to check who Nosferatu replaced because his iso is hot garbage. Turns out, it ain't no replacement.

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Other than a vote for Leia and whiteknighting Talylor Swift, Nosferatu's posts are mostly idle socializing, and even pretty weak sauce at that.

I'm town.

PlusJOY is acting very townie today.
VOTE: Nosferatu

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If I die, force Taylor to do it.

You don't trust me to do it?

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acting very towny today? WUT?

"The posts I read on this game day are very townie"

Clearer?

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is anyone else seeing scum everywhere? i prefer to townhunt and its really difficult here.

so far town are vecna, pickaxe?, dgb?, and fidget??

I'm town, just to make things easier for you.

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Ok wtf, is everyone in this gladiate scum or what

Scum would say that. But you're not being gladiated, so there's that.

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Vecna, earlier you said we were looking at scum!Titus. Was that past-game paranoia or was that legit from this game?

At that moment it was based on the gimmicky reaction test. I dont really have any strong paranoia for titus, but thats probably also because I think ive only encountered her as scum when she replaces in (and she's usually pretty obvious in those cases, but id imagine she puts in more effort if she rolls scum in a fresh game).

I keep going back and forth on Titus. She's def not lock-town yet as ive seen her be on a bunch of occasions. Her voting record and thought process is incomprehensible to me, but thats par for the course

I think Nos is probably town. I can almost taste his happy stoner face flapping about as he ridicules' people their reasoning.

Judging by your performance in our last game together, that probably means that Titus is town and Nos is scum.

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So you just decide to ignore his incredibly scummy Day 1?

The iso is kinda skimpy but the tone reads honest to me - more honest than Nosferatu. Have you compared them? Maybe I'm wrong. Let's analyze.

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Oh hey Nosferatu, since you're here, whose iso is scummier? Yours or PlusJOYED?

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Vecna is town.

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Why is Vecna town to you when he outright accused you of doing nothing?

You pay attention to the actual meaning of Vecna's content?

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I've been prodded and threatened with replacement!!!!!!!!!

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Plusjoy makes it hard to chose the right answer here...

It's a tragedy that this guy didn't make the gladiate list.

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isn't it crazy that 3 ppl on my wagon have been scumreading me since d1 but can't provide even an iota of a case

Dunno about you but i find it hard to scumcase

an iso empty of readable content

That's what I call a scumcase.

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Mmmmm I still prefer DGB

grumble grumble

You're not supposed to vote for the player you like the most

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borderline openwolfing

Openwolfing?

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Plusjoyed hasn't posted in more than 3 days. That should say something.

no im just lurking
i've decided on noseferatu but since we're all sus as hell im not gonna tryhard to manipulate the peoples choice

You sound defeated.

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just keep doing what u do best, the absolute bare minimum while acting like uve got a prolific body of content urself

at the very least ive never actively lurked and proceeded to throw potshots at slots with half my post count

I just iso'd Gypyx, and your accusation is gratuitous and perhaps vindictive.

Gypyx is an active participant, provides actual content, and is town.

It's bizarre that this is the player you are choosing to pick on.

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plusjoy has an outrageous iso that im insulted to believe comes from scum, and i honestly don't have that much of a scum read on dgb but i townread her less

I was just looking for

your

content with regards to our present GLADIATE situation.

"plusjoy has an outrageous iso that im insulted to believe comes from scum"

What the pickle does that even mean? Let's parse. PlusJOY has an outrageous iso (that sounds like PJ is scum) but it's insulting to you, so how can it be from scum? What kind of word salad vomit is that? What a fancy way to say nothing and escape responsibility and scrutiny.

And for me... I'm not scum, just a lesser townread. A lesser townread than

"plusjoy has an outrageous iso that im insulted to believe comes from scum"

. What the what?????????????????????

I'm drowning in mental pretzels and that's just one post.

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im willing to compromise on plus here if no one wants nos.

I'm not a fan of the nos wagon. Come join us on Plus.

PlusJOYED is voting scum, I think that's a solid point in his favor.

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Scummy on purpose? Come on.

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Mmmmm I still prefer DGB

grumble grumble

You're not supposed to vote for the player you like the most

<3!

borderline openwolfing

Openwolfing?

He acknowledged that he was going to be scumread for hammering shelly, and has said he doesn't mind if we send him to trial.

He doesn't care at all if he's perceived as scummy and also made no attempt to solve with his vote yesterday.

Why would he say we would scumread him for voting shelly? Clearly he didn't think shelly was scummy then. So why'd he hammer her? Don't know. I guess he felt like it, and he later justifies it as "Well, I don't care how scummy I look cause going to trial sounds cool. But then I realized that's throwing so maybe I shouldn't do that"

So he doesn't realize he's throwing until after the hammer. >.>

You do make valid points.

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It's frustrating to me because I am not really confident in any of you being scum. It could be Nos sure. I don't see a good reason why but there isn't a lot for "why not?" either.

Plus gives us all that stuff which I just don't WANT to believe is scum. He could be town thinking that. Or he could be scum hiding behind "Ha I'm scummy on purpose".

And then there's you, which you haven't done anything seriously scummy either but out of the three you at least give off a sense of trying to help more than they do. Which ironically made me suspect you more. But I sort of buy that you were confirm biased by Titus' VCA. So.

You've got both "too scummy to be scum" and "too townie to be town" in there.

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isn't it crazy that 3 ppl on my wagon have been scumreading me since d1 but can't provide even an iota of a case

Dunno about you but i find it hard to scumcase

an iso empty of readable content

That's what I call a scumcase.

just keep doing what u do best, the absolute bare minimum while acting like uve got a prolific body of content urself

at the very least ive never actively lurked and proceeded to throw potshots at slots with half my post count

I just iso'd Gypyx, and your accusation is gratuitous and perhaps vindictive.

Gypyx is an active participant, provides actual content, and is town.

It's bizarre that this is the player you are choosing to pick on.

Damn dgb, am I scum or town?

In the first quote I agree with you saying that Nos' iso by itself is a scum case, maybe that's what you misinterpreted?

First one I agree with you, second one I call you town.

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No explanation again. I can see that as scum uninterested in solving but maybe its just playstyle since its quite consistent according to the ISO

Yeah, I make these naked declarations a lot, like it's my personal notepad - not to convince others. When I feel it's a good time in the game to do so, I put everything together. Players are free to ask about my reasoning - there is always a reason.

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@the three biggest wagons today

I don't know if you realize or not - but the three of us are the only allowable wagons today, we are being gladiated. We do not know how we were chosen for this.

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Nosferatu, pob long

and and go back and forth on

Fidget

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id normally be compromising to plus at this point, but since we only need a plurality vote i get to be stubborn.

The game is stalling bad, that is a cowardly move. We're going nowhere in circles excruciatingly slowly.

VOTE: plusJOYED

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You mean scum whiteknighting, right?

Hmph, maybe.

Either way I can't choose DGB so if Plus is indeed town I'd have to vote for Nos for some chance of hitting scum

I'd quite like to just eliminate Plus but I'm not feeling terribly optimistic he flips scum

VOTE: PlusJoyed

I dno. You seem to be insinuating something without actually saying it fidget.

Not that I can think of. Just caught in a dilemma. Plus probably doesn't have the highest chance of flipping scum, if I had to guess one player in the gladiate to win the game, I'd probably pick one of the other two.

But eliminating one of the other two and seeing them flip town would just be annoying, cause then Plus is still in the game, and he will be eliminated another day almost for sure. And there'd still be no guarantee he's scum.

You're not even voting, come on. That's just ridiculously non-committal.

"if Plus is indeed town I'd have to vote for Nos for some chance of hitting scum"

That's a spectacular bit of fence-sitting. Grab your 'nads and make a move.

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@Eddie what are you trying to accomplish?

I have a plan that I wish to not reveal yet. However, if you had a shot, who would you shoot?

EddieFenix is another non-voter trying really hard to stay under the radar doing nuthin'

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It's a waiting game.

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Don't argue with obvious night result.

VOTE: Titus

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VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I was wrong day 1 on shelley.

@DGB,

You and I both know that reading the rules a night result is impossible. Why the fake?

That's the joke.

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I am working on the assumption that the gladiate was some kind of shenanigan outside of our roles.

Given that mindset, a night result is not completely impossible, but I would give it a very low probability.

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Here's another joke, hardy har har, ladies and germs:


VOTE: EddieFenix

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Titus has been on both of the town lynches that have happened.

So what? What a cheap way to reward lurkers, non-voters, the uncommitted and the wishy-washy scumbaggos.

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EddieFenix's scum pals are lurksacks, mark my words.

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After sheeping Titus day 1 and coming back to a green flip after the weekend, I'm holding my vote to use it wisely.

Hey

Did you guys decide to keep her alive because you thought you could frame her?

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Spoiler:

I propose that if we hit scum, regardless of who we lynch, that we keep lynching in these 3 until we hit town or win lol.

What if we hit town right off?

If we hit town right off, we do VCA.

If I die, force Taylor to do it.

Not my favorite way to do it. Wouldn't you want to take care of the VCA yourself?

yes if titus is dead titus will definitely want to do the VCA

That's assuming Titus dies.

HA LOOK AT THAT

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Thank you Titus and Fidget.

Taylor and Gypyx, who would you shoot if you had a free bullet?

To the Gladiator's: Who would you shoot with a free bullet?

PJ, could you answer my free bullet shot question, please. I'd appreciate it . Same for you, DGB when you get the time.

@Eddie what are you trying to accomplish?

I have a plan that I wish to not reveal yet. However, if you had a shot, who would you shoot?

Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
Who would you shoot?
I HAVE PLANZZZZ

That was a whole lot of scummy nothing, wasting the town's time.

You're not looking for scum, your whole strategy is to cause unforced errors in as many players as possible so that you can fabricate scum cases later.

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ive been scumreading gypyx ever since 97

Do you still scumreak gypyx?

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i call BS on that post anyway - nos joined the site in 15, gypyx this year, yet nos claims to have had a scumread for over 20 years?

You can win the game.

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I'm extremely curious to hear the results of Eddie's who-would-you-shoot survey.

I hope you're being facetious for the lulz

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Maybe Fidget knows something we don't.

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EddieFenix needs MOAR VOATS

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EddieFenix needs MOAR VOATS

Would you be interested in dropping Fenix for a wagon on Vecna?

(Cross the right answer)

□ yes □ no □ funny option

We really need to hit scum today so I really want EddieFenix.

However, Vecna gave me hard town vibes in other games, and I am not getting these town vibes here... but then again there hasn't been a convincing case. Give it a shot.

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I'mma be honest

, I haven't been fully invested into the game as I should be due to IRL stuff. DGB, you funny and probably scum too. I don't have a 3rd pick at th moment. But, I gotta dip because I gotta reset my sleep schedule for a midnight job. GL to my fellow townies, y'all got this.

@Mod: Can you find my replacement?

This is weak.

When you have to start by declaring your honesty

"I'mma be honest"

usually what follows isn't.

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But you and PlusJOYED? You both were probably already good candidates for the D2 elimination, gladiate or no gladiate. You had already received some suspicion d1, and Plus just came off the terrible hammer.

You can't speculate on this stuff... look who was nightkilled. Who? Exactly.

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And I just cannot help shake the feeling that DGB is really struggling to find content this game. No opinions of her own. Nothing she feels strongly about. No passion to be seen.

Are you kidding me? Are you reading the game??? Are you reading my posts??????? Nothing I feel strongly about?????????????????????? WHAT DE WHAT

I'm on fricking fire, I've nailed EddieFenix scum so firmly he jello'd out of the game.

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These are the first 4 votes of the Day. None were for Nosferatu or DGB, but one was by DGB. All three were made within 5 hours of Day start, which was 3:13 AM my time.

I am unfamiliar with this newfangled scumtell LOL but do know it doesn't pan out.

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Vecna seems rather intent on breaking up me and DGB. I don't like that.

If the gladiate is fully town, I really don't like Eddie's opening. Doubly so if Pickaxe Pete is town.

@Gypyx, w/e means whatever.

VOTE: Marashu

Anyone townreading this guy? He's done jackshit that I remember.

We really need to hit scum today, can't you just taste EddieFenix's red flavor?

He's so. Transparently. Scum.

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Also known as a replacement stalling the elimination, giving people doubts as they now judge a player just walking in with a fresh slate without any game baggage.

You know we won't eliminate this slot if there's a replacement, and that slot is scum.

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We can only lynch one. Tomorrow we'll VCA and figure out who was bus'ing Eddie.

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I'd rather eliminate the player that is objectively scummy on his own merit, rather than associative tells. Associative tells can swing either way, you could have a townie convinced that another player is town or not scummy enough to be worth a vote, or you coulid have scum bus'ing.

It's hard enough finding scum, when one starts looking at evidence that is twice removed from the actual point-of-scumtell, one loses the plot.

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I don't see where Eddie is scummy though. I do see where Mara is scummy.

Read my case.

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Consistency is a scumtell.

Inconsistency is not.

How many scum PTs have you read where scum neurotically wring their hands about how ,they fear looking inconsistent?

Townies have no such fears. They can't worry about looking inconsistent because it's in service of yeeting scum.

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T^T Taylor hold my hand and walk me thru what I'm supposed to do. I'm lost ;(

Trying to decide if this is scummy groveling or satisfying an urge to self-debase

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The fact that no ones really tried to solve me, sus me, or pocket me is honestly a weird feeling.
real weird :/
not sure what to think about everything considering only one slot has really interacted with me at all so far

Is this COVID madness?

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Noraa, I just read your iso, there is a massive amount of interest being spent trying to earn Vecna and Taylor's affection and approval.

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I meant "energy," not interest.

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Consistency is a scumtell.

Inconsistency is not.

How many scum PTs have you read where scum neurotically wring their hands about how ,they fear looking inconsistent?

Townies have no such fears. They can't worry about looking inconsistent because it's in service of yeeting scum.

Show me a PT where scum fear looking inconsistent. Inconsistencies are how scum and their partners are caught.

You just explained why scum worries about being inconsistent, thanks.

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Taylors town bc of not trying to pocket me and I trust in her judgement for the most part so I'll be sticking with her for the remaining days.

Huh? What kind of reasoning is that?

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Consistency is a scumtell.

Inconsistency is not.

How many scum PTs have you read where scum neurotically wring their hands about how ,they fear looking inconsistent?

Townies have no such fears. They can't worry about looking inconsistent because it's in service of yeeting scum.

What keeps skilled scum from being intentionally but balanced inconsistent to maintain the appearance of town?

They wouldn't bother because I am one of the rare summers that views excessive caution and consistency as scummy.

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Also Glitch, you have any idea why Eddie (the slot you replaced in) has asked the entire playerlist who would they shoot if they had a gun? (I'm wondering if there is trial stuff basically)

...asked everyone who they'd shoot... and never followed through on the question.

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Titus defended EddieFenix, who had ever fewer posts, and would have been an even lower hanging fruit because that I was going after this slot.

Your thoughts?

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i pushed nos for two days with no traction. time to do something else. where were you when i was pushing the lurker slot?

Nos has not been a lurker slot but town. He's been obvtown since eod1

in what world is nos obvtown?

This thread. He's been obvtown since Suasade (another lurker) pushed on him. After that failed, Sausade peaced out.

I hope you're not implying Saudade replacing out confirms Nos as town

That's how I understand it and it makes no sense.

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I just want one game where I never think that Titus is scum, just one.

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Noraa: I'm just gonna do what Taylor says, I'm not actually going to read anyone myself
Also Noraa: Omg Glitch is scum because he isn't reading me

Might policy lynch this tbh

I would get behind that before I would get on a Titus wagon.

Not as policy. But as scum. Noraa comes off as scum trying to mimic and seduce at once someone she knows is town.

VOTE: Noraa

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Tayl0r is blinded by Noraa's sucking up and will never be able to peg Noraa as scum.

That's the whole point of Noraa's strategy, and human nature being what it is, it's going to work.

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Noraa made herself into a cute little kitten, it's difficult to yeet, I mean even i feel cruel voting her.

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Noraa is meta'ing herself and no one cares.

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Would scumNoraa treat TS this way?

Take away all the unctuous grovelling, what you have left is a player that declares renouncing all responsibility for her reads, her play, and her votes, and putting it all in the hands of another player that she swears is town.

Only scum is ever this certain another player is town.

A player whose scumread she might fear.

Furthermore, how can one find Noraa's votes scummy without finding Tayl0r's votes scummy, since Noraa's votes are completely dependent on Tayl0r's?

If Tayl0r makes a bad vote, a bad move, who do you punish? Certainly not Noraa, she's just copying.

You'd have to punish Tayl0r, who would be the townie, and spare Noraa, who would be the scum.

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My working hypotheses are as follows:

[1] shellyc chose the 3 players that gladiated, and she chose players from her wagon, naturally.
[2] the gladiators were selected from fixed positions on the wagon, first (Nos), middle (me), and last (PlusJOYED).

Look at the final wagon:
shellyc (8)

Nosferatu

; EddieFenix; Pickaxe Pete;Titus;

DrippingGoofball

; Battle Mage; Fidget;

PlusJOYED

;

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Actually I can't count, so forget hypothesis [2]

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Or scums chose it and decided to do it this way so that they could blame it on shelly

Tell me more about what scums were thinking.

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@Titus You keep saying I'm not making content. I feel like I have been. Help convince me you aren't scum looking for low-hanging fruit to send to trial. What do you want to know?

that's not how it works

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I'm with fidget on this maybe. I keep bouncing back and forth between whether we should be focused on the 2 who were in the gladiate and the full roster. If we're to be focused on the two, I'm back to where I was earlier in the phase, reluctantly voting dgb. But the longer we go and closer we approach deadline, I would vote nosferatu.

VERY UNSETTLING how attention to Nos is now pretty much vanished.

I don't have time this minute, can someone else check out Nos' is today?

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Iso, not "is."

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Marashu is typical airhead posting, she's asking for the case on gypyx? Urgh, find it yourself, and are we even talking about gypyx right now?

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Unofficial:

Titus

(4)

Vecna;Tayl0r Swift;Pickaxe Pete;Noraa;

Nosferatu

(2)

Fidget;Gypyx;

Noraa

RedPanda Saudade

(2)

DrippingGoofball ; GLitch

Marashu

(1)

Titus;

Glitch

EddieFenix

(1)

Marashu;

Tayl0r Swift

(1) Nosferatu;

Gypyx

(0)

DrippingGoofball

(0)

Vecna

(0)

Pickaxe Pete

Princess Leia (0)

Fidget

(0)
Not Voting (0)

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Unofficial:

Titus (3)

Vecna;Tayl0r Swift;Pickaxe Pete;

Glitch

EddieFenix

(2)

Marashu; Noraa

Nosferatu (2)

Fidget;Gypyx;

Noraa

RedPanda Saudade

(2)

DrippingGoofball ; GLitch

Marashu (1)

Titus;

Tayl0r Swift (1)

Nosferatu;
Gypyx (0)
DrippingGoofball (0)
Vecna (0)
Pickaxe Pete Princess Leia (0)
Fidget (0)
Not Voting (0)

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My solve right now is Mara, Pickaxe Pete and one of Gypex and Vecna.

The problem is all of those are vanity wagons. Scum don't give a damn who goes today because no one will vote scum with me.

I could compromise on Pickaxe Pete.

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VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

Let's not forget this was Princess Leia's scummy slot to begin with.

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Pickaxe Pete's iso is grunts, moans, drool and onomatopeias.

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i think thats L-2

Is it? I think that's only the three votes right here on this page, no?

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I don't really like this flash wagon so I have not joined in

How come you're eager to sheep Tayl0r on everything, but you balk at Pickaxe Pete?

We have only 3 days left to eliminate. We're cooperating to consolidate our reads.

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I just looked at Noraa's interactions with Pickaxe, it's all neutral busywork banter.

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Gypyx, tell me more about your Vecna scum read.

I have trouble reading that slot.

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@Noraa, why don't you try and solve the Pickaxe Pete slot? He was a major wagon d1, so I can't fathom how you just haven't got around to it.

Because Noraa is scum

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@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

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@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

Remember Polandball? That's what this feels like.

Which part of Polandball?

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Vecna is suspiciously quiet.

Marashu needs a prod or replacement.

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Vecna has a super stale vote on Titus. Why? Voting off wagon is great to avoid accountability especially when the elimination doesn't require a majority.

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Noraa and Marashu still stuck on Glitch, which isn't happening.

COMMIT.

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It's crunch time and both of these haven't been seen in approx 3 days.

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Vecna and Marashu, that is.

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Her sussing of me felt really opportunistic. Glitch brought it up and dgb just clung to it like she was gonna die if she let go.

I was gonna die if I didn't let go?

Am I voting you now?

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Feels off considering she cant actually provide a case on me.

But I did provide a case that several players agreed with.

Are we reading the same game?

You seem inordinately nervous about an extraordinarily remote chance of being eliminated.

I bet you're not worried about being NK 'd

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When this game is over... I am afraid we'll regret letting the Noraa wagon disintegrate.

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Would scumNoraa treat TS this way?

Take away all the unctuous grovelling, what you have left is a player that declares renouncing all responsibility for her reads, her play, and her votes, and putting it all in the hands of another player that she swears is town.

Only scum is ever this certain another player is town.

A player whose scumread she might fear.

Furthermore, how can one find Noraa's votes scummy without finding Tayl0r's votes scummy, since Noraa's votes are completely dependent on Tayl0r's?

If Tayl0r makes a bad vote, a bad move, who do you punish? Certainly not Noraa, she's just copying.

You'd have to punish Tayl0r, who would be the townie, and spare Noraa, who would be the scum.

Right?

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This is what we got so far, 7 hours left on the clock:

Pickaxe Pete Princess Leia (4)Titus;Tayl0r Swift;DrippingGoofball;Nosferatu;Marashu
Nosferatu (4)Fidget;Gypyx;Pickaxe Pete;Glitch
GlitchEddieFenix(1)Noraa;
Titus (1)Vecna;
Noraa RedPanda Saudade (0);

Who is online? Can we make Noraa happen?

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Pickaxe Pete Princess Leia (5)Titus;Tayl0r Swift;DrippingGoofball;Nosferatu;Marashu
Nosferatu (2)Fidget;Gypyx;
GlitchEddieFenix(2)Noraa; Glitch
Titus (1)Vecna;
Noraa RedPanda Saudade (0); Pickaxe Pete

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VOTE: Noraa

Pickaxe Pete Princess Leia (4)Titus;Tayl0r Swift;Nosferatu;Marashu
Noraa RedPanda Saudade (3); Pickaxe Pete; Glitch; DrippingGoofball
Nosferatu (2)Fidget;Gypyx;
GlitchEddieFenix(2)Noraa;
Titus (1)Vecna;

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I have a case on you. You're not even paying attention.

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Nah I did start it.

This is what we got so far, 7 hours left on the clock:

Pickaxe Pete Princess Leia (4)Titus;Tayl0r Swift;DrippingGoofball;Nosferatu;Marashu
Nosferatu (4)Fidget;Gypyx;Pickaxe Pete;Glitch
GlitchEddieFenix(1)Noraa;
Titus (1)Vecna;
Noraa RedPanda Saudade (0);

Who is online? Can we make Noraa happen?

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My town block is still {Fidget, Noraa}
everyone else idk

wut

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I think Pete is more scummy than nos. fidget why are you on nos I never quite understood :/

You're vanityvoting Glitch LOL

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DGB just clung to the case glitch made

FALSE

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titus i have as town right now,

Ostensibly Titus spend all day yesterday pushing a Marashu wagon that never materialized, but in a sneakier way was pushing Pete over Nosferatu. Why did she work so hard to ensure the success of the town!wagon over the ?????Nosferatu wagon?

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Wtf is even happening in this game? That thread lock was freaking long and we don't get Vecna and Noraa's flip???

I am so confused. Gypyx how do you know we are in elo? We don't know wtf is happening and going on. This is kinda bullshit. It's been so long since I've played this game I forgot who I'm reading which way!

I don't even know where to start. Maybe with Titus for pushing that Pete wagon so hard. Idek

Ok. This is fake as fuck.

1) Mod setup is confirmed as three scum.
2) Maximum failure does not suggests either was town. We treat this as exlo but be pleasantly surprised if wrong.
3) The punctuation is melodramatic.
4) Night wasn't that long to forget your reads.
5) This game is not mechanically complicated.
6) Both Pete and Noraa were likely town. The wagon I pushed was Marashu yesterday.

And now she's trying to bulldoze Glitch, who has grown to be one of my strongest town reads.

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Maybe with Titus for pushing that Pete wagon so hard.

I think she didn't care so much about eliminating Pete as saving Nosferatu.

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gypyx was decently solid town but im not convinced by the posts today... at all.

Uh? His posts are perfectly fine.

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I see you're already planning cases against most of my town reads even before "doing VCA."

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Tayl0r I don't think Titus is town.

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@DGB if scum!Titus and scum!Nos, would Titus be working so hard (and so blatantly) to defend Nos?

The payoff of three night kills was worth it.

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More likely, all three trials failed, that would be my definition of MAXIMUM failure.

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I agree Glitch is not fake.

Titus points 1 to 6 are trash.

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What Titus is saying is that your overlooking of 1 and 2 makes you scum.

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In my only game with scum Titus her strategy is less to defend her partner our right but more to persuade the town to SR elsewhere more.

That's exactly what she did with Nosferatu.

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Nos is the buddy.

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You're borderline frantic again for us to save Nos and eliminate Mara.

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You have been working overtime to keep the attention OFF Nos, and I believe he's your buddy. Having said that, I would support you 100% if you fancy throwing him under the bus, we really need a red flip. But don't bank on getting town cred for it tomorrow.

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Let's count those willing to vote Nos

DGB
Taylor
Glitch
Mara
Gypyx

There's scum in that.

There are 4 townies left, of course there's one scum in that lot, at least.

If you're town... IF... your comment that

Nos hasn't been lurky. He's the only one engaging with my content at all. He followed my reaction test on shelly to try and save Pete day 1

comes from an egocentric perspective, and you may be blinded by your own personal "feelgoods" about the slot. Think of it from another players' perspective, no one will say,

oh wow, Nos is engaging with Titus' content, he must be town!

. Another player might more likely think (1) the two of you are in cahoots or (2) YOUR CONTENT WAS CONVENIENT FOR HIM and the scum team.

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got my eye on u fidget

VOTE: pete

I already explained those two, but i think they have a pretty good partner equity

hmm very interesting tell me more

i doubt its plusjoyed at this point either.

huh

VOTE: taylor swift

i didnt mean to quote u @ fidget i was talking to titus

not all lurkers are created equal

i...agree!

content could do more but i am always obvtown

vrnn vrnn vrnn

VOTE: ts1989

He's the only one prod dodging.

prod dodge!

who tf is wiyvern

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That's what I meant when I said his iso was a bunch of onomatopeias.

And naked votes. He's a lurking, grunting machine that tosses votes out of nowhere.

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Psychologically, he's scumtrolling all of us, and lurking because he got bored with it while the rest of us are intellectually stimulated with the task of solving the game.

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Oh and I'm going downstairs to grab a beer and start the quest towards Drunk!Titus. She hasn't come out in awhile. So have fun with me please.

oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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Marashu smells of townie in over his head, it's not comparable to Nos at all.

Put them side by side.

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Nos is not active nor influential, he's just a noise cricket.

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All of these are evidence of game solving.

cause it seemed fun and I was null on shelly, and mildy wanted to mess with shelly
but then i realized it"s kind of throwing to do so

yikes, this does not mesh at all with the town mindset of hammering to get scumread

I agree. And right now the biggest defense I've seen is that plus is "too scummy to be scum".

VOTE: PlusJOYED

Nosferatu I'm particularly wary of since he just survived the last gladiate, I sort of hope there was 1 scum inside the gladiate, and I lean him over DGB.

Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.

Ok, I have a bit of a hot take here. I'm starting to wonder if shelly PASSED the first trial, and the REWARD was being able to set up the gladiate. And now that there were no obvious shenanigans, I'm thinking that PlusJOY FAILED the second trial. Passing a trial helps town, but failing only has a chance of hurting town. (Alternately, PlusJOY PASSED the second trial, and managed to redirect the NK to viywern). The one thing that doesn't make sense in this scenario is if the gladiate is a reward, why those three?

Actually, Nos continually insisting that all 3 of them were town is

interesting

. Like, if either Plus or DGB flipped town (as we know Plus did), then he still distanced himself, whereas if he's scum, that would only be revealed by a flip so he wouldn't be caught in the lie. So it's almost like hedging bets. I still feel like the Eddie slot is scum. But I'm starting to doubt my read on Nos.

I'm still suspicious of the Glitch/Eddie slot, though I actually agree with his read on you. Noraa's recent posts have given me pause, so I think I want to ISO that slot soon. I don't really remember anything townie from Pete or Vecna.
Tayl0r and Fidget feel like town to me, and you're probably town as well. I have a hard time reading DGB. I keep going back and forth on Nos.

Could someone explain to me the case on gypyx? It seems like a lot of people are shading this slot and I don't know why.

Nos was the one who originally said that it was an all-town gladiate. Now Titus is starting to say the same thing. I'm not sure how the mechanic works but I'm feeling like scum is trying to hide behind it. Gypyx was the one who proposed that the number of town/scum was dependent on the result of the trial in 636 and people agreed on it, but if it's wrong and the gladiate itself was the reward, and nothing would have happened on a fail (which is what I'm currently thinking), then it becomes very appealing to scum to use that. I don't see how Nos saying that it's an all-town gladiate benefits town but it could be beneficial to scum.

Titus might be saying it was all-town now to keep us from looking too deeply at D2, or too closely at Nos. Or it could be her digging in her heels - I think it would make more sense for scum!Titus to be agreeing with Nos' stance on D2 rather than picking it up on D4.

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Hugs. Go to sleep.

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Wiyvern's read must have hit home

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It's especially unfair to the scum team but they got 3 night kills and I have no tears LOL.

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You were defending your failbuddy when he was pissing around the game, so...

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Town literally cannot get to four votes to lynch scum, so...

Wait

Wut?????

Scumslip????????????

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Yeah you slipped... this sounds like knowledge, not a read LOL.

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Hear me out DGB, scum!titus and town!nosferatu doesn't make sense, that's not a slip

Basically, the reason is : why would scum!titus push the angle that the gladiate was town/town/town?

Yeah you're right, my brain is running in circles from the boredom LOL.

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Thanks for subbing, maxwell.

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Yeah he's scumtelling on himself pretty hard LOL

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oh boy. this is a vanilla game. odds that that came from town who didnt read the setup vs scum being told to dumbtell?

VT is the easiest claim for a goon, I wouldn't read anything into it.

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Good news is, I got the apartment.

Bad news... it's unfurnished.

So less anxiety but less time.

Decoration potential UNLOCKED

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It's almost the perfect list a scum would make after not reading the whole game.

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He's not even looking at the wagons, it's like he took a foregone conclusion and justified it.

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I am more interested in gypyx and Glitch, I would like more contributions from them.

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Glitch??? Really???????

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I'm not voting that.

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Okay we have to start a vote here... I could vote either glitch or Mara currently

What is your third choice?

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Agreed.

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VOTE: maxwell

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I think this gives us another day.

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If we don't lose, my solve is glitch / titus

We'll take care of them tomorrow.

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I knew it

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On scum tho

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oh

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maxwell if we're ever town together I'll sheep you as long as I'm alive, you had us dead to rights!

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Also, why the wivyern NK?

Saving the mod some work... and avoid a maxwell replacement!

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Btw why did I even die? O_o

You were too cutesy, we needed elimination bait and you weren't it.

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Also yeah, 12 v 3 mountainous is scumsided i think, trials didn't hemp

Scum could have lost big on their trials too, perhaps?

The OP specified that the game could be swingy, and failures would be punished, so it was a bad strategy for us to bus. We had to be all in as a team and protect one another.

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Only DGB would have been smart enough to kill me night 1.

It wasn't my choice! I like to keep my favorites around.