The Trials - ENDGAME

[Pickaxe Pete]

UNVOTE:

[Pickaxe Pete]

I semi-forgot about this game.

I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages

also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways

initial impressions

plusjoy is probably scum here like tbh this is a serious read, for 1) reasons I cant talk about and 2) town!plus does solve despite the solves might not being correct, plus is very agreeable here or am I just paranoid about you

don't like taylor's posting feels very forced

pob long is nullish scum to me, weird flexes and their posting confuses me

Do you have a town read?

[Pickaxe Pete]

277 comes from an informed perspective

[Pickaxe Pete]

initial impressions

plusjoy is probably scum here like tbh this is a serious read, for 1) reasons I cant talk about and 2) town!plus does solve despite the solves might not being correct, plus is very agreeable here or am I just paranoid about you

don't like taylor's posting feels very forced

pob long is nullish scum to me, weird flexes and their posting confuses me

This is fake and pointless. What is forced about Taylor's posting? What do you mean by weird flexes? What about pob long's posting confuses you?

Re plusjoy: "I know something but can't talk about it, so trust me"

[Pickaxe Pete]

I've seen enough to do this for now.

VOTE: shellyc

[Pickaxe Pete]

277 comes from an informed perspective

You mean informed about your slot? I don't even understand why you'd say this.

Put me on trial.

[Pickaxe Pete]

i'm struggling somewhat with Pickaxe Pete just coming in and with his opening posts appearing to tunnel Shelly, the momentum-wagon. it seems like the default play for scum in that slot and situation. I think it's a less likely play for town.

Put me on trial.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

could be

pob long, if that is your real name, I think you're probably town even if you're a HTV.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Why are you pointing me to your signature? Is there a town or scum game you want me to examine there to compare to this game?

To prove that I have played games on this account, and therefore have not created this specifically for this game

PL very aggressive towards shellyc here, it looks like

Day 1

bus'ing.

could be

pob long, if that is your real name, I think you're probably town even if you're a HTV.

what is that

Because you posted your driver's license photo I'm assuming you were recently reinstated. My first guess was you were a habitual traffic violator, but that might be unfair. Could just be a DWS.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I hate the opening. Shading me opportunistically is super scummy. I don’t care if you call this OMGUS because I think shading me isn’t pro town at all at this point

I don’t think my listing of reads is fake and pointless. They are initial impressions and I’m still gutreading people atm

I call OMGUS.

[Pickaxe Pete]

if Petes your name too.

They call me Pickaxe, but that's not what my birth certificate says.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I hate the opening. Shading me opportunistically is super scummy. I don’t care if you call this OMGUS because I think shading me isn’t pro town at all at this point

I don’t think my listing of reads is fake and pointless. They are initial impressions and I’m still gutreading people atm

Why you are still developing initial impressions after 15 pages? Could it be because you're making them up as you go along?

I had an initial impression (note the past tense). It was that you were scummy.

I have a current impression (note the present tense). It is that you are scum.

[Pickaxe Pete]

@Mod V/LA until Sunday EST

so yeah hoping there won't be too much to catch up on

Yesterday I read pages 12 & 13 and today I read pages 10 & 11. You didn't post on 10 or 11. Were you v/la?

[Pickaxe Pete]

I semi-forgot about this game.

I need to stop forgetting about stuff, can someone give me a tl;dr with the 6 new pages

also replacements don't just happen for inactivity, force-replacement is a way to solve a compromised slot but you're not supposed to discuss replacements anyways

How do you semi-forget? I can understand "kinda forgot" or something like that because that's a figure of speech, but "semi-forgot?" You need to up your scum game.

[Pickaxe Pete]

.....What in the..... this game keeps on getting weirder. im afraid to ask whats a DWS

driving while stripping. cops hate sex workers.

Driving while suspended. Those are easy to beat. Like when a speeding ticket gets knocked down to a NLP.

Why are you voting for TaylorSwift, pob long? You both should be voting for shellyc.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Spoiler: VCs

Send to the Trial 1.4

Tayl0r Swift (5) pob long; Fidget; Princess Leia; RedPanda; PlusJOYED;

Not Voting (3) Marashu; Vecna; shellyc;

shellyc (3)Titus; Nosferatu; EddieFenix;

Princess Leia (2) Tayl0r Swift; Battle Mage;

Vecna (1) DrippingGoofball;

Nosferatu (1) Gypyx;

Fidget (0)

pob long (0)

Battle Mage (0)

RedPanda (0)

EddieFenix (0)

Marashu (0)

Gypyx (0)

PlusJOYED (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Titus (0)

With 15 alive, you need 8 to send someone to the trials with absolute majority vote, and 2 to send someone to the trials with relative majority vote at the end of the day. No Elimination is disabled.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-09-25 11:00:00) or when someone has been sent to the trials by absolute majority.

Princess Leia is being replaced.

Send to the Trial 1.5

Tayl0r Swift (4) pob long; Pickaxe Pete; RedPanda; PlusJOYED;

Titus (3)Vecna;Fidget;Tayl0r Swift;

Not Voting (2) Marashu; shellyc;

shellyc (2) Nosferatu; EddieFenix;

Pickaxe Pete

Princess Leia

(1) Battle Mage;

Vecna (1) DrippingGoofball;

Nosferatu (1) Gypyx;

Fidget (1) Titus;

pob long (0)

Battle Mage (0)

RedPanda (0)

EddieFenix (0)

Marashu (0)

Gypyx (0)

PlusJOYED (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

With 15 alive, you need 8 to send someone to the trials with absolute majority vote, and 2 to send someone to the trials with relative majority vote at the end of the day. No Elimination is disabled.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-09-25 11:00:00) or when someone has been sent to the trials by absolute majority.

Pickaxe Pete replaces Princess Leia.

Send to the Trial 1.6

Pickaxe Pete

Princess Leia

(5) Battle Mage; Marashu; Fidget; Tayl0r Swift; shellyc;

Tayl0r Swift (3) pob long; RedPanda; PlusJOYED;

shellyc (3) Nosferatu; EddieFenix; Pickaxe Pete;

Not Voting (2) Gypyx; Vecna;

Vecna (1) DrippingGoofball;

Fidget (1) Titus;

Titus (0)

Nosferatu (0)


pob long (0)

Battle Mage (0)

RedPanda (0)

EddieFenix (0)

Marashu (0)

Gypyx (0)

PlusJOYED (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

With 15 alive, you need 8 to send someone to the trials with absolute majority vote, and 2 to send someone to the trials with relative majority vote at the end of the day. No Elimination is disabled.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-09-25 11:00:00) or when someone has been sent to the trials by absolute majority.

We had a static wagon of five on Taylor when I performed my reaction test on Shelley. Most of the people on the wagon are consensus town. So the question becomes where are the scum or why has this wagon stalled?

The only person to initally jump off the Taylor wagon to me was Fidget, who I suspected before. None of the people voting for me discussed shelley in any meaningful way. They jumped from VLA to no scumslip without any meaningful search at her behavior. The wagon started from Vecna being the likely town shepherd into a bad wagon. Scum rarely start bad wagons day 1, especially when buddies are being FoSed.

So right now, I am left with two possibilities. One, Taylor is scum and her wagon stalled due to lack of bussing or two, scum are jumping on anything with a pulse to look like they are providing content.

Then, we get to Pickaxe Pete. It's another wagon that gained steam based on town with faulty reasoning.

This point, I strongly suspect at least one of Taylor and Fidget is scum, but not both. ShellyC and Taylor being partners would explain why those two wagons have slow burns stalled out while others are more rapidly exploding.

VOTE: shellyC

Perfectly ok with a Taylor vote as well for the reasons above. I can't find scum on either wagon as they currently sit.

Pickaxe PetePrincess Leia (5) Battle Mage; Marashu; Fidget; Tayl0r Swift; shellyc;

Wagon positioning suggests to me that if two of {Fidget, Taylor, ShellyC} are scum, it would be Fidget & ShellyC. I don't have a strong read on Fidget or Taylor at this point.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Read pages 8 & 9. I think Battle Mage, pob long and DGB are on my no yeet list.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Read pages 8 & 9. I think Battle Mage, pob long and DGB are on my no yeet list.

In context with 10 - current (kind of current). 8 & 9 were a bit ridiculous, so I don't know if I'll go back further than that.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Read pages 8 & 9. I think Battle Mage, pob long and DGB are on my no yeet list.

In context with 10 - current (kind of current). 8 & 9 were a bit ridiculous, so I don't know if I'll go back further than that.

pob long is tentative (bit of a back track) but I think I'd put red panda/saudade in there too or at least close to it.

[Pickaxe Pete]

It's weird that shelly isn't engaging with me.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Eddie looks null town. Not a lot of content, one vote. Has bad feeling about pob long.

@eddie What about pob long is giving you bad vibes?

[Pickaxe Pete]

That is VERY GOOD.

I can get behind this.

VOTE: shellyc

This post bothered me at the time because 1) I wasn't feeling Titus's VCA and 2) it seemed a little too complimentary from DGB.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Also, I was hell bent sure Shelly was lockscum so I really didn't care at the time.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I don't think there's any way Shelly picked the gladiate without me in it.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: nosferatu
wow am i the first vote on this guy

Yeah i agree that he's scum, but now's not really the time to start new wagons, especially considered that we're like 2 days until deadline

2 days is plenty of time

VOTE: Nosferatu

Guess i'll hop in

And there's this.

[Pickaxe Pete]

yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos

Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.

What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.

This. No one, actually, has provided a good reason for scum reading nosferatu other than saying it's so.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Townleaning fidget and Titus. Titus reaction test is pretty indica to ice of a solving mindset and fidgets posting gives me a good vibe (this is more gut)

"Girls you're both pretty" or "it's town vs. town" is more likely to come from scum than from town.

This post didn't make sense either. TvT is more likely to come from scum? She can't believe that.

[Pickaxe Pete]

yesssssss

im glad to see people coming around on my nos read

VOTE: nos

Regardless of Nos alignment, you're still scummy to me. I don't know whether this is mislynch bravado or bussing but you have provided no articulable reason for a NOS fos.

What is your read on Plus joy? He was the major turning point against the PickAxe wagon. Your ignorance of him makes no sense.

This. No one, actually, has provided a good reason for scum reading nosferatu other than saying it's so.

how are you so aware of all the reasoning provided for reads on that slot? I have read the game but have no clue, other than that BM added nos to his townblock

??? No one has provided good reasons for a strong TR or a strong SR on nosferatu, or even weak for that matter, barring my catch up this morning.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Vecna, earlier you said we were looking at scum!Titus. Was that past-game paranoia or was that legit from this game?

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'm too lazy to look right now.

[Pickaxe Pete]

You decide to send shellyc to Trial 1. Shellyc is forced to open the door and walks through. The door closes behind them, locks itself, and briefly shows the symbol of a house. Which means... that they were an ordinary townie. Two more trials await you. But not before tomorrow. You go to sleep.

As you awaken, you notice that Nosferatu, PlusJOYED and Dripping Goofballs are trapped in a small space before the door to the next trials, surrounded by walls with small open windows and a locked door. The windows are too small for escape but you can reach through... it seems like you have to send one of these three to the trials. Then you notice that Battle Mage is missing, and you see the symbol with the house you saw yesterday etched into the ground where they were before.

Am I crazy or does the symbol with the house etched into the ground where the 3 were mean that they're all ordinary townies like Shelly?

[Pickaxe Pete]

And if we're sending one to the trials, we would want to send the towniest one, one we thought would have the best shot at winning?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Or does the "etched into the ground where they were before" refer to Battle Mage. They is probably Battle Mage. Okay. NM. Pronoun screw up.

[Pickaxe Pete]

That is a false dichotomy, Vecna.

[Pickaxe Pete]

your face is a false dichotomy

I will admit to laughing at this.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Plus isn't obvscum, but nos and dgb are townier.


VOTE: plusjoy

[Pickaxe Pete]

@Taylor - Gypyx and Plusjoy...what do you think of the odds of them being teamed? Possibly with Pete?

Or was that the purpose of this post? To get me to vote plusjoy?

[Pickaxe Pete]

I am bored. With Shelly I thought I had scum to sell, and I was wrong. With these three I'm only voting because it's compulsory. I can't sell Plus as scum. Just vote and let's move on. We'll deal with the fallout. We don't even know how this mechanic exactly works yet.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'm not so stubborn that I won't switch to nos, but I think whatever case there is on him, which I still haven't got a grasp of -- is it just a no-content case? -- is weaker than any case on plusjoy. Plus is at least trying to be scummy.

[Pickaxe Pete]

So I guess what I'm saying is if there's a better case for nos, I'll switch. Right now, why other than my own impatience?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Pob long really let me down.

[Pickaxe Pete]

What do you mean sending her in for the maf slot Plus? And why is it a bad idea?

[Pickaxe Pete]

And if we're sending one to the trials, we would want to send the towniest one, one we thought would have the best shot at winning?

Going back to this, if you are town, plusjoy, I hope you start acting like it during the next phase.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Even if the non-voters vote now, they're still in my sights.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Even if the non-voters vote now, they're still in my sights.

EddieFenix; viywern;Fidget; FTR

[Pickaxe Pete]

I think noraa being pretty confused about what are trials is town indicative

NAI

[Pickaxe Pete]

Don't argue with obvious night result.

VOTE: Titus

I don't understand. The night kill?

[Pickaxe Pete]

To be fair, night results aren't impossible, i'd like an answer from eddie though

If they exist they're not obvious.

[Pickaxe Pete]

then lay out why I asked this sort of question.

May as well do this, Eddie.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I can do Eddie. I could do Titus as well after 1082. Vecna hasn't pinged me.

VOTE: EddieFenix

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'mma be honest, I haven't been fully invested into the game as I should be due to IRL stuff. DGB, you funny and probably scum too. I don't have a 3rd pick at th moment. But, I gotta dip because I gotta reset my sleep schedule for a midnight job. GL to my fellow townies, y'all got this.

@Mod: Can you find my replacement?

This is weak.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.

[Pickaxe Pete]

It's within the interest of scum to come out quickly at the beginning of the Day to divert from yeeting within the survivors of the Gladiate.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Hmmmm... weird kill tbh, and no gladiate

VOTE: Vecna

The ISO looks pretty bad upon re-reading it, anyone else in for this wagon?

No. Titus is scum

VOTE: Titus

Don't argue with obvious night result.

VOTE: Titus

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

I was wrong day 1 on shelley.

@DGB,

You and I both know that reading the rules a night result is impossible. Why the fake?

These are the first 4 votes of the Day. None were for Nosferatu or DGB, but one was by DGB. All three were made within 5 hours of Day start, which was 3:13 AM my time.

VOTE: DGB

I think you may be scum, DGB.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

You think I'm wagon voting right now?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

You want to vote within {Nosferatu, DGB} because you believe there needs to be 1 scum there.

Shelly sent to Trial 1, Battle Mage vanishes, First Gladiate
We vote within the First Gladiate, and Plusjoy is set to Trial 2, viwyrn vanishes
I guess now we're voting to see who gets sent to Trial 3, and there will be a Second Gladiate?
Who chooses which players go into the Gladiate? Was there any scum in the First Gladiate?

It seems to me that there would be scum in the First Gladiate, and the we would be smart to look at Nosferatu and DGB.

Kind of like this?

And I'm voting within your stated parameters for the same reason you are, and I'm scum? Is that right?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Do we have reason to believe that the 3 people we were forced to choose from for yesterday's elimination were all 3 town? I would be surprised if this setup forces our hand like that meaning, I expect there to be 1 scum in Nosferatu vs Goofball. I get town vibes off Goofball but haven't read anything of Nos yet.

Based on VCA FOS is on Pickaxe Pete for a constantly underwhelming vote always placed on an easy high vote wagon including prior to replacement.

You think I'm wagon voting right now?

No but could I interest you in helping me form one? Your vote is within our 2 suspected scum players based on the 3 player gladiator pool. Would you consider switching your vote to Nosferatu?

What's the case? In the gladiate, the case on him was there was no content. I still don't see any content, although I don't really remember anything he's posted today. So why Nos, who doesn't have any content, as opposed to DGB, who has substance, some of which has made me do a double-take?

[Pickaxe Pete]

And what seminar did I miss anyway where T^T became a thing? What is it?

[Pickaxe Pete]

That came out stronger than intended. Can someone clue me in?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Hrmph

[Pickaxe Pete]

Eh... I think I agree with Nosferatu there. I'm not sure what Mara is on about. I'll see if I can go through dgb's iso. I think I did that on an earlier post to a certain extent.

[Pickaxe Pete]

So... i basically skimmed through the thread, not much of importance happened? Anyways pretty sure glitch is town for the nos vote

Huh?

[Pickaxe Pete]

UNVOTE:


I need to re-evaluate. Things aren't making sense. Looking at it without the gladiate mechanic, I get pings from titus, marashu and EddieFenix. Glitch, though, appears to be redeeming that slot. Titus bringing up beetlejuice, eh maybe I can see it with marashu, marashu beetlejuicing, eh maybe I can see it.

I don't understand the Nosferatu wagon. It's the same damn thing as last time. A lack of content. There's not anything there to scum read him for or to town read him for.

Gypyx reminds me of the Silence. I always seem to forget about him.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I won't lie. I don't like Vecna's look this game. My scum radar pinged a lot reading that iso

Have you ISO'd anyone other than DGB, Nos, Plusjoy and Vecna?

You shared some thoughts on the other three when you entered, but you've been scum reading Vecna since you entered and haven't really said why other than an occasional "that's a bad look" or something. What is it about Vecna that you scum read?

[Pickaxe Pete]

So... i basically skimmed through the thread, not much of importance happened? Anyways pretty sure glitch is town for the nos vote

Huh?

Specifically asking about the glitch is town for the nos vote statement.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: Glitch

cuz ur the Eddie replacement and Taylor thinks ur scum and I'll have a case on u soon after I ISO dive u

So you're suspecting him first, and coming up with the reasons to suspect him later. Yeah.. that usually isn't a good way to make a case. If you start with the conclusion and are looking for evidence to match it, you will find what you are searching for.

Taylor is my lock town rn and imma sheep her reads for now

VOTE: Glitch

cuz ur the Eddie replacement and Taylor thinks ur scum and I'll have a case on u soon after I ISO dive u

I'm not a fan of this, both because it's making it so that you don't need to defend your case, and because it feels like, for all your talk of not getting pocketed by TS, like you are trying to pocket TS.

Both of these posts are good.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Not so much shading as pointing out suspicious activity that I hadn't caught myself. I especially like the concept of projection pocketing. Both of these posts make me want to examine you more closely.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I won't lie. I don't like Vecna's look this game. My scum radar pinged a lot reading that iso

Have you ISO'd anyone other than DGB, Nos, Plusjoy and Vecna?

You shared some thoughts on the other three when you entered, but you've been scum reading Vecna since you entered and haven't really said why other than an occasional "that's a bad look" or something. What is it about Vecna that you scum read?

no I have not. Vecna's very inconsistent and fence sitty. Reminds me of my first scum game where I was both of those. Inconsistency can often come from a buddy whispering to you in the pt.

What do you think about what DGB said about inconsistent play being townie?

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'll join.

VOTE: Titus

[Pickaxe Pete]

Why is the counter wagon Marashu over Nosferatu? Has Marashu been independently scummy enough to override choosing Nosferatu, who was in the gladiate and also doesn't really have much in the way of content?

VOTE: Nos

you don't want to vote taylor?

No why

i think continuing to push scum in the gladiate is low effort

really? 3 nulls in one gladiate and nothings up?

There's no good reason to believe all 3 in the gladiate must be town. I can only see it as a possibility.

If all 3 in the gladiate are town, I'd kind of expect more people (scum) to be going "Well there has to be 1 scum in there, right?" It's odd to me that it just isn't happening and instead we're not talking about the gladiate hardly at all.

Yes there are 3 nulls in there although arguably you could say DGB wasn't null and you could say Eddie/Marashu were also null slots.

This is nitpicky, but I don't understand the reference to Marashu since only DGB and Eddie were in the gladiate.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Also titus, marashu isn't the only quiet player, why push him and not the others?

He's the only one prod dodging. He's the one with resistance. He's the one who hasn't subbed out or obvtowned. He's showing up when mentioned then ducking out (bettlejuicing).

He'll never provide content to be sorted with.

Taylor is trying to state now I have to meta him in order to validate my own experience.

That's fair, but at some point, we kinda have to try going for scum instead of going for lurkers
Plus in what world is nos obvtown, like, i've seen your reasons, they just don't work imo

You're voting for Nosferatu and arguing that we shouldn't be going after lurkers.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Yes, a no content poster is a lurker.

[Pickaxe Pete]

3 days to deadline and you go off on a vanity wagon Nos? That may be the first actual scummy thing I've seen you do.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Look content!

Meanwhile Marashu's not posted for 50 hours. Maybe a flake there. Maybe Titus is onto something I guess.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I don't know how shelly didn't pick me if she selected the gladiate participants. That's my hangup on that. Regardless, DGB, what would be the significance of shelly selecting them? To me that means she must have won her trial and therefore got to choose her biggest scumspects. Which brings me back to why wouldn't she have chosen me.

I'm with fidget on this maybe. I keep bouncing back and forth between whether we should be focused on the 2 who were in the gladiate and the full roster. If we're to be focused on the two, I'm back to where I was earlier in the phase, reluctantly voting dgb. But the longer we go and closer we approach deadline, I would vote nosferatu.

[Pickaxe Pete]

That's a true beetlejuice.

[Pickaxe Pete]

That's a true beetlejuice.

By Marashu.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Pickaxe Pete's iso is grunts, moans, drool and onomatopeias.

I laughed. Esp at grunts and moans. Well and onomatopeias.

[Pickaxe Pete]

The solve is never just three lurkers. that'd have to be one hell of a coincidence

Pick Axe Pete, Gypex, and Vecna aren't lurkers. They're just void of most content.

See Activity Overview.

If you're talking content as in numbers, I was a replacement right. Not really a good metric anyway.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Here's the read list, a bit rushed but i hope it'll help you seeing where i'm thinking rn

Gypyx :

Gypix
Bottom text

here be the townguys :

Fidget - I could locktown that guy honestly, this slot didn't take much place in my thoughts but while re-reading i like him a lot

Tayl0r Swift - good effort and good posting, i don't think anyone thinks the contrary?

Ehhhh, probably town :

Glitch - I was kinda null on Eddie, but as I said i like how Glitch has been playing the game so far, a strong candidate to become more than just leantown

DrippingGoofball - i wasn't feeling great about that slot early day 1, but it's slowly changing

Marashu - i'm just not seeing scumminess from this slot, and i think peoples are exagerrating the lurk

No fucking clue

Titus - i just can't really get a read on titus, i had that problem in a previous game with her

Noraa - on the one hand, i REALLY liked the previous players of noraa's slot, on the other hand, Noraa herself do be acting scummy

Pickaxe - played okayyyy-ish so far, but he also defended nosferatu in a pretty bad way imo "yeah he didn't bring content but because that's all i'm seeing i'm not voting there"

Received a red PM

Vecna
Nosferatu

I already explained those two, but i think they have a pretty good partner equity

And also, quick note but i'm basing a lot my reads off of gut this game, mostly because i have a small lack of time to play, and pretty sure that my gut is better than my logic

You can do better, Gypyx. These reads have no substance at all.

Fidget: "I like him a lot"
Taylor: "Everyone agrees she's a good poster"
Glitch: "has been playing the game"
DGB: "slowly changing"
Marashu: "not seeing scumminess" - people exaggerating the lurk is substance at least
titus: "can't read her"
Noraa: "acting scummy"
Pete: "defended nos in a bad way" - substance but bad read, no one was making a case for scum!nos and how was my saying no one was making a case for scum!nos worse than any one else saying it; the "in a bad way" is hyperbole, looks like filler or agenda driven
Vecna & Nos: "already explained"

At least point to where you've explained Vecna and Nos.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'd have to go back and look and marshu, but what caught my eye with gypyx was the horrendously bad take on me.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Hmm? He posted that after I knocked off yesterday and today I saw the wagon on me and picked everything up from there. I"m not sure what your question is.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Hmm? He posted that after I knocked off yesterday and today I saw the wagon on me and picked everything up from there. I"m not sure what your question is.

Posted that silly reads list that is.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I was going to say that I'm willing to vote marashu but I'm not going to vanity wagon it, but since we need just a plurality I think I will. If Marashu is part of your solve, Titus, you should join me. DGB and Taylor too -- the reasons for voting me are pretty lame.

VOTE: Marashu

[Pickaxe Pete]

I already explained those two, but i think they have a pretty good partner equity

hmm very interesting tell me more

every scum read this dude has is predicated on me having a red pm when i just dont

if ur town i pray for u

VOTE: pete

Are you voting me because you think I'm scum? Because you think I'm scum with Gypyx? Why aren't you voting Gypyx?

[Pickaxe Pete]

@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

I am too.

VOTE: Nosferatu

[Pickaxe Pete]

Titus vs Noraa makes me SR Noraa more because as much as her argument was bad she presented it calmly and collected. Why is she suddenly chill when the pressure is on even though she has been wild and eccentric the rest of that game?

More votes on Noraa.

Noraa isn't happening today. You should move to Nosferatu.

[Pickaxe Pete]

@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

This push on me is bad. Tell me why other than a definitive "you're scum."

[Pickaxe Pete]

You can do better, Gypyx. These reads have no substance at all.

Fidget: "I like him a lot"
Taylor: "Everyone agrees she's a good poster"
Glitch: "has been playing the game"
DGB: "slowly changing"
Marashu: "not seeing scumminess" - people exaggerating the lurk is substance at least
titus: "can't read her"
Noraa: "acting scummy"
Pete: "defended nos in a bad way" - substance but bad read, no one was making a case for scum!nos and how was my saying no one was making a case for scum!nos worse than any one else saying it; the "in a bad way" is hyperbole, looks like filler or agenda driven
Vecna & Nos: "already explained"

At least point to where you've explained Vecna and Nos.

I don't really know how to give substance, plus a read list shouldn't be a mini-case on the whole playerlist, and if it is then i don't have the motivation to do that

Well at least address Vecna and Nosferatu.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Glitch, join us on Pete. We can look at Noraa and Mara tmo.

If you're town, you're gonna get your competing wagons. If you're scum, I'm going to do everything I can to stop you mislynching me.

[Pickaxe Pete]

this progression of urs, while I haven't been paying that much attention to, is definitely not explained well and rather sudden.

Noraa, this wagon on me is bad. You need to switch to Nosferatu.

[Pickaxe Pete]

@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

Remember Polandball? That's what this feels like.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I was going to say that I'm willing to vote marashu but I'm not going to vanity wagon it, but since we need just a plurality I think I will. If Marashu is part of your solve, Titus, you should join me. DGB and Taylor too -- the reasons for voting me are pretty lame.

VOTE: Marashu

If Mara is part of my solve?

The only person likely to go to Mara is me. Now I have a wagon on someone actually in my scum pool.

Now, you're willing to vote Mara after I highlight your disparate treatment of Mara and Gypyx and with this little time to deadline.

I REALLY want Mara but I don't think it's got legs and this is an attempt to peel votes away from you.

Of course I want to peel votes away from me onto someone whose alignment I don't know. It's too late for that though. For Mara anyway.

[Pickaxe Pete]

@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

Remember Polandball? That's what this feels like.

Which part of Polandball?

Where whatshisface pulled the fake guilty on me and I told you that you needed to not disregard me not flipping green and how were you going to handle the next day and you told me no you didn't have to consider it and I told you yeah you kinda do have to consider it. You closed your mind to the possibility, and that possibility was the truth. fwesnid was whatshisface. Anyway, I flipped green and we lost the game. I think you were the NK that night. Here, there's no case on me that I've been scummy. It's all based on what exactly? That's why I asked you -- why are you voting me? Did you see Titus's answer? It was "because I disregarded the Marashu contentless reads list." Well, that happened after titus and you and taylor started the wagon on me. What's the real reason this wagon is on me?

[Pickaxe Pete]

@ Vecna

Your Titus vanity wagon isn't going to get to the station in time today.

I propose you switch to Nosferatu or Glitch, even if temporarily. I'm interested in seeing how other would move their votes if there was a viable contest.

This push on me is bad. Tell me why other than a definitive "you're scum."

Your selective forgetting about Marashu while pushing on Gypyx for the same thing.

That's great ex post facto, now tell me why you and Taylor and DGB voted me.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I'd be ready to hop on pete tbh, there is almost no point in keeping this day going

You're really just going to blow off 1639:

Spoiler:

You can do better, Gypyx. These reads have no substance at all.

Fidget: "I like him a lot"
Taylor: "Everyone agrees she's a good poster"
Glitch: "has been playing the game"
DGB: "slowly changing"
Marashu: "not seeing scumminess" - people exaggerating the lurk is substance at least
titus: "can't read her"
Noraa: "acting scummy"
Pete: "defended nos in a bad way" - substance but bad read, no one was making a case for scum!nos and how was my saying no one was making a case for scum!nos worse than any one else saying it; the "in a bad way" is hyperbole, looks like filler or agenda driven
Vecna & Nos: "already explained"

At least point to where you've explained Vecna and Nos.

I don't really know how to give substance, plus a read list shouldn't be a mini-case on the whole playerlist, and if it is then i don't have the motivation to do that

Well at least address Vecna and Nosferatu.

No muss no fuss no reading no analysis, just hop on a wagon for no reason other than this day has gone on too long.

[Pickaxe Pete]

this progression of urs, while I haven't been paying that much attention to, is definitely not explained well and rather sudden.

Noraa, this wagon on me is bad. You need to switch to Nosferatu.

wrong person to pocket. I'm not even on ur damn wagon

GYPYX HAPPY BDAY!!!!!

But you can swing it to a different counter-wagon, which saves me. Why Glitch over Nosferatu?

[Pickaxe Pete]

ok im going to be honest i hopped on the wagon before actually reading pickaxe. and if pickaxe is scum then ive been looking at this game completely wrong. but looking over the iso, theres lots of sheep/weakly reasoned votes and not much substance. i think this is more than just a compromise wagon and actually has a solid chance of hitting scum.

What do you mean that you've been looking at the game wrong if I flip red? Do you really distrust yourself that much?

[Pickaxe Pete]

Lunch break post, so this will be a quick one (I can explain myself in about 4h) but I don't want it to come to random. If Glitch isn't happening, my compromise is Pete.

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

This makes no sense.

[Pickaxe Pete]

got my eye on u fidget

blush

I found this absolutely hilarious so I had to quote it and say that.

The post right after this by Fidget was 10/10. I really really liked it. Fidget is in my townblock. I had doubts about her earlier in the game but I dont really think this slot has much possibility of being scum anymore.
The case on Pete is really good. Theres a lot of fishy stuff from him and from what I gather, he kinda laid low after for a bit and watched town tear itself apart before coming back hoping that most people would've forgot the case on him-which they did. I had this slot as null but am willing to lim them today.

What case and what is 1688 all about? Those two posts don't jibe.

[Pickaxe Pete]

277 comes from an informed perspective

You mean informed about your slot? I don't even understand why you'd say this.

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

that makes no fucking sense for someone trying to solve honestly

He's sheeping that weird argument on shelly earlier but the argument is related to his shelly knowing stuff about HIS slot.

Surely he is just looking for reasons to attack on shelly so he can be justified in voting her, this makes no sense as an honest case

Sorry to bring up ancient history at this point, but WHY did you never respond to this, Pete? I only asked about it like 500 times.

I only ask because I'm teetering between both wagons

When I repped in I picked a page to begin a review from and started in. I knew Leia had been replaced (it's right there on page 12 where I started, in fact the post above Shelly's), and I suppose I should have known that I was the replacement, but for whatever reason I didn't put that together. It doesn't really matter though. The post Shelly made sounded like she was informed somehow. It makes me look scummy the way I approached it, but I was looking for scum and that struck me right off. I should have read on a bit for context I suppose. I didn't respond because it's a convoluted response and it sounds like I'm lying. And I think I had pressure on me at the time and didn't want the extra and just hoped it would go away.

[Pickaxe Pete]

277 comes from an informed perspective

You mean informed about your slot? I don't even understand why you'd say this.

VOTE: Pickaxe Pete

that makes no fucking sense for someone trying to solve honestly

He's sheeping that weird argument on shelly earlier but the argument is related to his shelly knowing stuff about HIS slot.

Surely he is just looking for reasons to attack on shelly so he can be justified in voting her, this makes no sense as an honest case

Sorry to bring up ancient history at this point, but WHY did you never respond to this, Pete? I only asked about it like 500 times.

I only ask because I'm teetering between both wagons

When I repped in I picked a page to begin a review from and started in. I knew Leia had been replaced (it's right there on page 12 where I started, in fact the post above Shelly's), and I suppose I should have known that I was the replacement, but for whatever reason I didn't put that together. It doesn't really matter though. The post Shelly made sounded like she was informed somehow. It makes me look scummy the way I approached it, but I was looking for scum and that struck me right off. I should have read on a bit for context I suppose. I didn't respond because it's a convoluted response and it sounds like I'm lying. And I think I had pressure on me at the time and didn't want the extra and just hoped it would go away.

FWIW in my head at the time I was thinking someone else had been replaced. I didn't realize my slot had been the only replaced slot.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Pickaxe means 1687 and 1688, I believe.

I interpreted them as meaning you were suspecting DGB, but you are thinking about suspecting her less cause she's suspicious of Pete.

This is correct. I wasn't clear.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Feels off considering she cant actually provide a case on me.

I feel like if I put my mind to it, I could make a case on you. That is probably true for most people here. You play very inconsistent and use a lot of far out logic which is easy to spin as scummy.

Regarding the opportunism point, maybe I guess? Why do you think scum!DPG feels the need to try and get you eliminated right now over everyone else?

DPG seems to pretty consistently find "sucking up" scummy. Even if it's me jokingly at Titus. You outright buddying tayl0r was not going to go well.

its definitely easy to make a case on me, I agree.

I'm easy LHF. whether or not I'm the biggest wagon, everyone knows getting me limmed is easy .... especially scum. I also saw that but the thing is that DGP's case on me has basically nothing to do with "sucking up"/buddying if I remember right.

You not moving to Nosferatu makes you a member of the informed minority.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I have 5, yes.

[Pickaxe Pete]

I would vote Noraa.

[Pickaxe Pete]

how many does it take to yeet? I think I'm leaning Pete tho one of my solid TRs(fidget) is on nos so thats making me think twice

Take a stand.

[Pickaxe Pete]

VOTE: Noraa

[Pickaxe Pete]

DGB conf Town now. No reason for scum!DGB to leave my wagon.

[Pickaxe Pete]

Also, that N2 trial was especially hard! Yikes! I mean, kudos for not getting any mafia in the guess list, but wow.

nahhh I nailed DGB and was thinking taylor for a bit

My trial was to determine whether the first two trials were successful. That's why I won my trial -- it was obvious they wouldn't/couldn't have been.

[Pickaxe Pete]

The Trials Mod PT<- all potential trials here.

Can you release the others?