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VOTE: Jackson Virgo for that time tse claimed mason with you as scum when you were vt and then you went along with it

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3) Incredibly aggressive. I normally have 10 to 15 rage fulled 1v1s per game, anything less than that and I haven't done my job.

VOTE: odd day jesterplaying with someone like this sounds like hell so this is an unironic polocy lynch

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First game here in a while. Im interested to see how site meta has changed, what the players are like now, how I hold up as a player, etc

Please do me a favor and outline your typical playstyle with these questions:

Intuitive, or analytical?
Independent, or Collaborative?
Aggressive, or Passive?

I will respond to my own questions once I get some responses to the survey. As this is my first post I would also like to say good luck to you all! Hopefully this will be a good game!

hey ppl tend to hate qus but i am aggressively nonsensical and insane i hope that answers your questions

pedit fuck
pedit not reading that fucking hell

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wait actually is that supposed to be TSTBS?
ur intro is either too bold to be scum or smart smart scum.

LAMIST via TSTBS

pedit not reading that
god dammit i have like two posts getting pedited rn mafia sucks
I JUST PEDITED MYSELF FUCKING HELL

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beep beep

hmmmmmm
I like my vote where it was :3
VOTE: Morning Tweet
^^

this post pings me as super scummy and i think it's incredibly obvious why

pedit not reading that

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bugspray unironically always looks like obvscum to me.

How do I read you, bugspray?

idk ask datisi hes got a fucking doorway to my fucking soul

didnt read that because i wasnt caught up

rn my list of ppl i want dead:

dayvig tier: i would dayvig them instantly
odd night jester for obvious reasons
noraa because they just constantly seem scummy and insincere. town!newbies never have this kind of tone. kinda reminds me of gardenia in my first newb game where i knew something was off about her and she was scum

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voting mod and just lots of really fucking weird interactions means that noraa is my biggest scumread but i'd still rather vote out jester even if it does not directly work towrads my wincon thats how strongly i feel about this

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my typical playstyle is scumreading Shelly

lmaoooo that's kinda mean(starting each game with a bias against her) but tbh it does seem she has a knack for landing scumroles :shifty:

I've completed three games with Shelly. She has been scum twice and the other time I led her lim on day one for good measure

DAMNNNN girl's like a scumrole magnet
then again ... the probability of her landing yet another scum role would be kinda low at this point since she's already landed a shit ton :shifty:

are they actually scum partners?????????

dont know what was going on here but this post was pedited im gonna click submit until it posts

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anway that post i quoted is noraa just trying to appear to advance the collective consiousness of reads without actually contriubting anything at all, i expect every person on this website to like have looked up that one fallacy they are using i think its gamberls fallacy? every role roll is individual and not connective to other role rolls


ompedit hello noraa! wow you sound like scum that is coming under pressure and appear REALLY self consious in that post
so right now i have a read on you that is substantiated and that 1NJ thinks is somewhat credible. that means we are outside of rvs and i could decide to attempt wagon you if i ever stop deathtunneling 1NJ

how does this make you feel? please explain your opinion

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Also, I would appreciate if you could limit your emojis to 1 per post. These things don't come cheap for server costs.

whenever i try to use an emoji (a real actual emoji) i get an sql error :(

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jackson i appreciate the input but i don't trust your reads after that game i mentioned when i opening rvs'd you so please give me more

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jackson can you give examples of how noraa was tight as scum and is actually loose in this game

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i dont need your permission to start a wagon VOTE: noraa

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i am slowly catching up and taking notes thank you for not making too much content

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OK IM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP

caught up to here rn, taking notes in my personal pt so that i have actual damn reads

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Where’s Bugspray.

Jeez so many pages to read

im in these pages n.n

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OK IM OFFICIALLY CAUGHT UP

caught up to here rn, taking notes in my personal pt so that i have actual damn reads

when your caught up, what are your thoughts on :

shellyvjackson
taylorvnoraa

Im really interested why you cherry picked these interactions instead of others that I was finding more interesting during my catchup (still in progress, going very slow)
i think the brief NBEE and JV clash had information that will be very useful if one of them flips and that redados spurred many interesting interactions

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Redados did a lot of strange things so a Redados flip is definitely helpful for sorting out all this stuff.

You, shelly, and JV have also done a lot of strange things. Why should we flip redados instead of you, shelly, of JV?

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Noraa is my strongest SR so obviously I will want a noraa lim over the rest

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Tayl0r seems nice and level-headed

remind me not to trust mundivore's reads

reminder

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what does AtE mean?

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is saud still wagon'd? i think it's wild how he was brought to l-2 when he said he would be gone for a few days and could come back
pressuring inactive slots is a waste of precious town resources. wait until he is back and then go ham

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as for my top town reads:

bugspray: I explained it in 621 as well(it's related to everything I talked about before that as well though regarding policy lynching etc). as I have said he is definitely dropped off a bit but I still believe he is town.
Jester: I made my stance very clear early on regarding selfvotes and policy lynching. There wasn't really any support for it, so I decided to ISO him and I thought he was pretty town. Main reason for this was him being a leading voice by trying to game solve but also just me finding his thoughts to be very logical and him catching on to some of the same things I did (like the shelly thing I asked her to follow up on; Jester initially questioned this and when shelly did not respond to him he brought it up again even though it seemed like she might have tried to change the subject. I really thought that was a town thing to do especially since I was bothered by the same thing)
Norwee: Early on I went a bit back and forth on him but I thought his interactions with Saudade was pretty town and I quite liked his response to Saudade calling him out. I think overall his play has been rather pro town - I don't really agree with all of his reads but to this is a bit like with Jester in the sense that we seem to notice the same things, best example would be both of us finding it very questionable how people could have a townread on Saudade.

my pronouns are they/them

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is saud still wagon'd? i think it's wild how he was brought to l-2 when he said he would be gone for a few days and could come back
pressuring inactive slots is a waste of precious town resources. wait until he is back and then go ham

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VOTE: mundivore
there is too much content for me to read but i checked activity overview and noticed that mundivore has even fewer posts than me which I find unthinkable considering how low volume my posting has been

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the vote has deeper reasons, i did a quick iso skim and i felt the ping a few times, i think if saud is not lying about depression and is indeed town then the wagon's long lasting momentum was almost certainly supported by scum that want to make townies waste their precious thinking time on a wagon that they don't expect anyone to actually hammer. it reminds me of reservoir dogs ddu (where i was mr pink) how i kept tring to roleplay that the rats (scum) were just yap yapping and preventing meaningful discussion from taking place

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i need to actually look at the saude wagon and not just do this pointless vote VOTE: unvote

pedit
which scumgame?

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@tay
Which scumgame?
What did I do?

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I wasn't scum in that game.

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I'm referring to what scum was doing in that game.

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Why did you refer to a game in which I was town as "my scumgame"?
VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

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okay ti was "scumgame of yours" but that still implies that you believe I was scum in the game I am referring to

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What did I do in that game and how is it similar to here?

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Why did you believe I was scum? In my post I wrote about how I was trying to point out scum's tactics while still roleplaying as the character from the movie and I believe those tactics (which worked effectively there) are also in play here.

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Even if nora and shelly are not scum they are being manipulated by scum to act as unwitting agents

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tayl0r are you still there? what do you think about these ideas?
1) the saud wagon's long lasting momentum was due to scum influence
2) Even if nora and shelly are not scum they are being manipulated by scum to act as unwitting agents

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I'm interested in what shelly has to say

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@mod are you looking for a replacement for saud?

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My first town game finished. Go get meta if u want it. Newbie something ANCIENT ARTHROPODS

Oho,.
This really cute.

UwU?

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VOTE: duppin

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shelly then we also lose a tpr to the night kill, do you think there's a more efficient way?

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not do you know a better way. Do you believe there could exist a better way for town to obtain info leading to a successful scum elimination than just by making people claim? Scum will often claim vt for WIFOM purposes so on average we are more likely to lose a tpr than elim scum

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If someone lolhammers then the circumstances around it are always very suspect and often it would just be scum outing themselves.

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"by scumhunting" that means literally nothing. any action that can be construed as helping town gain info to elim scum is scumhunting. getting people to l1 to claim is under the category of scumhunting

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me: shelly is there a better way to find scum?
shelly: yeah scumhunting

???

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I am hard claiming strong loyal multitasking fruit vendor doctor vigilante cop watcher tracker mailman motion detector role cop role watcher psychologist jail keeper neighborizer

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@bugspray i was actually pretty surprised by that vote because to me it doesnt really align with the other reads youve posted, so could you elaborate?

do not assume my posts follow coherency they do not imagine that every time i post i put half of my knowledge into a clone and then the clone murders me

the knowledge of why i voted is lost but I am sure in my past self's decision

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In my notes I wrote that I thought it was weird duppin is still voting on saud who has not posted in like at least 4 days

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looks like i wrote about how tay might be coached scum

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i wrote that most of shelly's posts are unparseable garbage

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oh WOW i gave myself some good reasons why i actually locktowned duppin? having a notes pt wher ei put good thoughts is amazing i should try it in a game where there isnt so much spam that i literally gave up on reading it anyways VOTE: tay

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i wrote that most of shelly's posts are unparseable garbage

can you not fracture my self-esteem thanks

i am attacking the play, not the player
winning is good
losing and getting banned are both bad
thats the morality of mafia i try to have

but really its generally having fun is good and not having fun is bad and that's why i replaced like 3 games in a row

pedit: tay said some stuff that i dont think a newb would say

alsoi wrote in my pt that the jv slot and nbee are probably not both scum

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if i had to dayvig three people it would be tay, noraa, shelly rn
i think i wrote in my notes why i was gonna locktown redados

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redados compalining about hectic's self votes early on gave me strong townping. it didnt seem like the kind of post scum makes especially as a newb

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i didnt call it a team solve but like if i had to triple dayvig to win the game thaat's the one i would consider most game winning rn
did i ever actually tr you? let me post this and iso my readlist brb

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PEDIT HECTIC DONT TALK ABOUT GAMES THAT ARE YET TO BE ONGOING YEESH

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looks like i never even gave a readlist

brb going to make a game become ongoing to make hectic shut up (because then he cant talk about it)

pedit sure 1 sec

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looks like my shelly trajectory is basically just a mix of poe and i never tr'd any of her posts ever in a way that sticks out among the heap of crap

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yo we liuterally have an active prod

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should we claim the masons right now? i get the feeling we got masons

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its the bugspray gambit where i claim to have a reason to think there are masons when i have no reason to think that and then i find out who is town
VOTE: noraa

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its the bugspray gambit where i claim to have a reason to think there are masons when i have no reason to think that and then i find out who is town
VOTE: noraa

This vote is OMGUSy and also this whole "it was a test" thing just sounds stupid. Definitely not rubbing me the right way. I think bugs isn't town here.

i have done it multi[le of my games go meta me lmao

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can someone quote all fo the relevant disucssion on claims such as people referring to crumbs they made early on d1? thx

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then quote that post on every page so that i actually see it

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is bugspray scum?

expand on this please

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is bugspray scum?

expand on this please

is bugspray scum?

Why do you think this is a useful question to ask?

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ok lets get a wagon going then VOTE: bugspray

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was odj hectic and then he replaced in on his main?

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it would be so much nicer and easier to analyze this game if shelly and noraa didnt together make up over a third of all the posts dammit

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Battle mage are you able to expand on point 2? brb isoing you

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did i claim yet? if not, i'm a VT

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I didn't ask if you would I asked if you could.

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Battle mage why would you not if you could?

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I believe battle mage is lying scum
VOTE: battle mage

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Either Morning Tweet both discovered a way for there to be a mechanically confirmable tpr that by claiming day 1 would give scum an advantatage and then decided that she would use it in a game of mafia or battle mage is lying.
I believe that this situation calls for occam's razor.

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norwee bm scum team

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my pronouns are they/them and if you look at it you can understand the context

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my pronouns are they/them and if you look at it you can understand the context

are you serious!?!? :lol:

read my fucking signature

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ok bm im convinced lets get noraa VOTE: noraa

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VOTE: bm

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hectic is correct

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VOTE: redados
I am not going to post in the thread for the rest of the day cycle.

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I think its absolutely possible shelly and noraa are scum buddies

here's a fake quote from the scum thread that I'm making up

hello i am shelly lmao hey noraa love u okies lets just fucking spam a lot and makes a bunch of posts and argue with each other so that nobody else can read the game

omg hello yes i am noraa your scum partner and that is a good diea lets just fucking make this goddamn game unplayable!

shellyc sounds like she is spitballing right now and waiting to see which ones stick (aka townies give some cred it) so that she can push them forther and then get the yummy win

i suspect scum has a rolecop or some other way to gain hard information about battle mage's role so that they can use the scum!medic that norwee claims to know about to give a false positive (assuming norwee isn't lying)
in this case the rolestopper on bm when bm targets scum while scum!medic targets bm would result in bm still dying targeting scum which is the only way I can make sense out of the current setup information

goon
scum rolecop
scum medic
town rolestop
town weak friendly neighbor
town informed of scum medic
vt x5

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i would totally vote noraa right now but i dont know the vc and would prefer avoiding a hammer before town has had some useful discussion. once we can't usefully discuss furthery we should hammer so that scum can't keep doing shit here and in their pt and in any hoods they might have access to

pedit:
shelly i don't think you have the credibility to make that statement about NRG and it does have a use which I did explain

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here's a fake quote from the scum thread that I'm making up

Lol that was really funny.

i'm glad SOMEONE appreciates art

but heres the thing norwee what if you are scum who was just seeing if you could make up a lie that cannot be mechanically confirmed or denied and then try to get a claimed tpr grounded to "save" a nk?
questions for someone who is able to analyze this big data mess of shelly and noraa posts: how long did norwee stay that hill before climbing down?

shelly it literally only requires fn to claim and then stopper is like :hmmm: better prevent shenanigans

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i believe if doctor targets a weak role it would prevent the weak role from dying but i could be wrong

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there wer ten fucking pages already?????

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VOTE: noraa you are gonna claim now ur ground1?

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we can confirm it by flipping

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Btw i hope this isn't an dupe. I played a game with basically caught scum talking for ages about how they were going to do a wall but they never did anything. In the end we just lynched them and they flipped scum.

i have done this

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can you give a preview

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noraa how is that wallpost going
do you have an actual draft?

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VOTE: unvote

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did noraa claim? i dont see anything in the iso

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noraa i am locktown

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This game is solvable by PoE

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shelly how am I conf!town? that implies mechanical

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cant wait for sucm thread to go out so we can see i was right

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here's a fake quote from the scum thread that I'm making up

hello i am shelly lmao hey noraa love u okies lets just fucking spam a lot and makes a bunch of posts and argue with each other so that nobody else can read the game

omg hello yes i am noraa your scum partner and that is a good diea lets just fucking make this goddamn game unplayable!

so absolutely called it

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im worried about [...] bugspray (most experienced in the plist).../quote]
every time someone respects my ability to play mafia i am dumbfounded

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what is this WIM thing shelly keeps referring to in scum pt

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I'll be less spammy this round bc I realize there's a lot of more experienced players here and the more you say, the more slips are possible

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i was fucking right
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yay spamming is working and soon all the townies are going to be overwhelmed

while im gone just shitpost a ton

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I went away for like half an hour and come back to like 12 more pages

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BAHAHA 5 were solely bc of me lel

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LMFAO THIS IS GREAT

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it's actually an ok strat going forward to spampost the thread

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Holy moly I don’t even know what to post tbh there is so much that isn’t even worth reading

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yeah we spamposted

just say Grendel is town tbh

each of you should aim to have a different + super solid town read on one townie

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information overload imo. I didn't even know what to comment about it

orly????????????????